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15770571 No.15770571[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

The book is related but I'm not really talking about it.
What is the deal with men pretending they don't find young girls attractive? What is the cause of their cognitive dissidence?

I see men in their late 20s that talk about how they wouldn't date a 21 year old because they think she's too "immature". (as if that's the appeal of women)
I see twitter mobs of people shitting on a couple where the man is 24 and the girl is 17.
People on reddit calling those attracted to 15 year olds "pedophiles"
I mean, what the fuck man? Why the hysteria? Maybe this is mostly an american phenomena but I see another shift coming in the overton window.

Back in the "good 'ol days" you can just about marry anyone who was pubescent, and have them betrothed to you even earlier than that.
Girls, (and boys if you're a big homo) are attractive sexually years before whatever arbitrary age of majority you have set, not only that but they are sexual themselves. Let me ask you, what was the age which you began masturbating?

People say that culture is oversexualized today, but that has always been the case. Humans have always been sexual and pornography, prostitution, all that jazz has been around since the dawn of human civilization.
>oh but those lead to our downfall
There is a difference between nude art depictions of sex, and the degenerate fetish driven kind of shit you find today. It's not the same as watching some real 18 year old girl being gangbanged by a bunch of dudes.

The vast majority of "14, 13, and even some 12 year old "children" can safely give birth. Yes, I can cite an Austrian study if you are interested. The only con for those young births is is a slightly lower birth weight, which isn't even a health problem for the infant in itself. In fact under 15's had the lowest rate of cesarean section compared to all other age groups
The other consequences, are only socioeconomic because it's really only those who are poverty stricken, uneducated, that would have a children at a young age. Otherwise they would be in school.

If you ask me, all this shit is just another form of control. Nothing else.
Cue the emotional responses calling me a pedophile. I'm used to it now.

>> No.15770586 [DELETED] 

>>15770571
Tl;dr
Die pedo scum.

>> No.15770621

>>15770571
Tl;dr
Die pedo scum.

>> No.15770633

>>15770571
Based on physical appearance? Dunno, anon. Even when I was on my 17 or whatever I was mainly attracted to girls who were around my age. I did kiss a girl who was 13 or some other stuff, but I wasn't really physically attracted to her. I mainly don't bother too much with younger girls because they are usually into other things. It is mainly prejudice on my part, but I don't bother with older women either. So it is not like it makes any difference.

But those people are just annoying, anon. If you are going to get into a long term relationship with a girl that is 15 or some other shit it doesn't matter to me. The main issue is someone going after a lot of girls like that and taking advantage of their inexperience on life. I think that is how people who see it negatively view those. Because there is a clear power imbalance in a relationship with an age gap like that. In here they call this kind of thing as "dating for raising", and in some sense you are actually raising a teenage girl you are dating.

That can be both appealing to some and cumbersome to others. I don't live in the US, the age of consent on my country is 14. Now imagine what would I possibly do with a girl who is 14 yo? You have to raise her, see my point? The appealing part is that you can raise a companionship as you see fit up to a certain extent, because she also has he own needs and desires, as any normal person does. There are books on that, anon. I remember watching some French booktuber commenting it, I can't remember their names though. But I can find them for you if you are that interested on this kind of stuff.

>> No.15770754 [DELETED] 

>>15770571
Bump for interest

>> No.15770779

>>15770633
In the states that sort of thing is referred to as ‘grooming’ and is very heavily looked down upon.

Though if the guy has genuine intentions of marriage I dont see it as wrong. But anything less than that and I view it as an adult taking advantage of a child.

>> No.15770881 [DELETED] 

Bump for interest

>> No.15770892

Because you will go to jail

Before the HAGS could vote everyone loved little girls and mentioned so freely. Plenty of poems and songs about young lolis and everything

Enter HAGS, now America is going to die

>> No.15770928

>>15770571
Men need some restraint, especially when the last remains of the "traditional" institutions are falling apart.
Btw, from a certain perspective, modern feminism is doing the Church's work, keeping hyper-sexual powerful men in check.

>> No.15770936

>>15770928
May no stone be left unturned

>> No.15771027 [DELETED] 

Bump for interest

>> No.15771099 [DELETED] 

>>15770571
Bump for internet

>> No.15771157 [DELETED] 

>>15770892
Have sex incel

>> No.15771229 [DELETED] 

>>15770571
Yikes

>> No.15771334 [DELETED] 

>>15770571
I will keep shadow bumping this thread until a conversation happens

>> No.15771403 [DELETED] 

Bump

>> No.15771416

All men are ephebophiles.
Unless you have some mommy/milf fetish

>> No.15771453

>>15770779
Wash your vagina you dumb cunt

>> No.15771456

>>15770571
this hysteria has its roots in feminist movements of 80's. They overturned the old paradigm of psychology (mainly dominated b psychoanalysis) which said children are sexual creatures and pointed out the fact that children (esp. girls) are abused more often that we would think. This created mass hysteria in media, and from then on children are viewed as inherently innocent, nothing to do with sexuality. It's just really a shift from a psychoanalytical paradigm to a feminist one, which works by creating the identity of a victim. Child sexuality becomes easier to regulate. Everything post 90's just intensifies this victim narrative. Personally, I think it is very limiting to view child sexuality trough the prism of feminism and victimization. Yes, feminism was actual in the sense that it pointed out the unreported crimes against children, but its not a productive schema trough which we should understood children sexuality as a whole. Plus victim narrative really fucks up children after they have been sexually abused.

>> No.15771496

>>15770571
>I mean, what the fuck man? Why the hysteria? Maybe this is mostly an american phenomena but I see another shift coming in the overton window.

It is an American (Anglo) thing, to a large extent. Americans have a certain puritanical legacy around sexuality and they feel like they need to strictly regulate it and purge all "evil" tendencies.
The US is the only country in the world with a public sex offender registry, for example. You could do something slightly inappropriate, like grope a woman and your name would be published forever on a public list of sexual predators.
Americans also don't tolerate women showing tits on public beaches, for example.
And now with the globohomo spreading, the whole world is becoming americanized.

To some extent, it's also just a women thing. Older women know that they can't compete with young ones, so they try to make them off limits with various (dishonest) tactics. Women are vicious when their reproductive/survival instincts kick in.

Also, don't take reddit as something representative of normality.

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15771522

Daily reminder for ya dweebs.

>> No.15771556

>>15771522
>we should be allowed to fuck 12, 10 and SEVEN year olds
Please do society a favor and remove yourself.
Feminists and christians did a good thing, for once.

>> No.15771562

>>15770571
I’m tired of it all. If only girls these days were more mature and they were prepared to be a wife and mother. But no, they are taught nothing but math and grammar, and are asked what they would like to be when they grow up. They are conditioned to be like men, because that is what the machine of our capitalistic technological society demands from them.

I just want a young virgin whose first thoughts about me are not totally corrupted by sex, but a simple attraction and desire to be with me. What’s so great about the “maturity” of older girls, anyway? I’d say that’s just another word for “boring.” Playfulness, grace, femininity, purity... those features are more noteworthy. And is it a surprise that I’m more captivated by them, and not olde girls, who should already be taken by now? I do not want to be an adulterer.

>> No.15771598

>>15771556
the hands of a woman typed this

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>>15771598
>ease of the kiddy diddling bro
>hah you must be a woman xD

>> No.15771610

>>15771599
it’s ok bro just accept the used up cunt with dead, lusty eyes and little color in the face without the use of makeup. She will definitely bond well with you and will never leave you, not like the 20 guys she’s left in the past, no.

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>>15771598
>ease off the kiddy diddling bro
>hah you must be a woman xD

>> No.15771617

>>15771610
there are ages between TEN and EIGHTEEN ya know?

>> No.15771618

>>15770571
Have you read the book? What's it like?

>> No.15771635

>>15771611
very nice memes, go back to plebbit please

>> No.15771662
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>>15771618
First half is about age discrepant relationships in popular culture and history.
Second half is how contemporary age of consent laws came into fruition.

It's meh. PDF is online. You can find it easily

>> No.15771688

>>15771635
>heh all the people I disagree with must come from reddit

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>>15770571
as someone who dated a 17 year old when I was 21, I will absolutely admit to wanting to fuck hot teenagers. the problem is that casual sex is far less fulfilling than longterm relationships. and you can't have long-term relationships with 17 year olds. They're just borderline retarded, as most teenagers are. Like, try sitting down with an attractive 17 year old girl and having a conversation. At BEST they will tell you how they've discovered this AMAZING youtube channel when you mention philosophy or reading as a hobby(spoiler: it's just fucking alain de botton). age of consent here is 14, and I think it's a good number, but dating one is just fucking awful. the sex is excellent though, as is young love. I caught some kink bugs from that minx. But I tried it once, and am now wiser for it.

>> No.15771734 [DELETED] 

>>15770571
Why is this shit thread still up?

>> No.15771767

>>15771691
I started dating a 17 year old when I was 21 and we're still together three years later. But I lucked out with her. Tradgirl with interest in literature and philosophy, /fit/, Ted-shed compatible since she grew up on a farm. Only problem we have is me being a bluepilled fuccboi when we started out. I hope she can come to terms with it.
Remember kids, if you want a pure wife you better stay pure yourself.

>> No.15771779

29 year old loser here, and the older I get the more alluring those young things get to me. Probably some sort of complex due to lack of action in my actual teenage years.

>> No.15771783

>>15771779
>Probably some sort of complex due to lack of action in my actual teenage years.
or maybe the guys who had action in their teenage years have a complex to go after older girls

>> No.15771789

>>15771691
Ironically, a 21 year old guy is too young and immature to handle most teenage girls. You need to be a bit older to see through their bullshit and games and to not be fazed by them.
Also, most women of any age are incapable of discussing philosophy. If you want to have serious debates, it's better to find some male buddies.
But these are generalizations. Mature teenagers (girls or boys) do exist, they're just rare. Also, in terms of conversation potential, intelligence is more important than same age. Say, if you're an intelligent 25 year old, you'll have a better time talking with an intelligent 15 year old than with a dumb 25 year old. Having common age-related interests is overrated.

>> No.15771796

>>15771779
It's called being a normal male who isn't lying to himself.
Although I don't know exactly how "young" we're talking about here, you fucking pedo creep.

>> No.15771799

late twenties here. not that i am any sort of a catch myself, but women around my own age have all just started looking so fucking middle aged compared to all the teen and young twenty somethings i see on the streets.

>> No.15771807

>>15770571
I don't know but thanks for the book recommendation.
This is also the focus of much of my writing and I'm working on a novel.

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>>15771789
Can I handle a 12 year old?
T. 21 year old