Is there any substance to fascism?

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Is there any substance to fascism? Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:27:46 2020 No.15730246 [Reply] [Original]

In every piece of fascist literature I’ve ever read and in every conversation with a fascist that I’ve ever had it seems that they can never make a tangible, coherent, or materialist case for what they believe. Every idea expressed typically comes down to some kind of esoteric or mystical concept. Things like “the spirit of the nation”, “the racial soul”, “honor tradition” etc.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:36:09 2020 No.15730270
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>>15730246
>In every piece of fascist literature I’ve ever read and in every conversation with a fascist that I’ve ever had it seems that they can never make a tangible, coherent, or materialist case for what they believe.

I think I've found the common denominator here: your midwitry. Consider being less retarded and you may begin to understand.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:37:34 2020 No.15730279 >>15730270 Damn...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:38:12 2020 No.15730281 >>15730270 Your entire worldview is based on hollow slogans. You don’t even qualify as a midwit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:38:15 2020 No.15730282 Trannies aren't welcome here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:39:17 2020 No.15730289 >>15730282 Have sex and dilate

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:40:00 2020 No.15730292 >>15730246 Fascism is Right Wing Communism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:40:21 2020 No.15730295 >>15730246 Read Edward Dutton

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:40:58 2020 No.15730297 >>15730292 Mate you know the dictionary app is free right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:41:48 2020 No.15730305 >>15730246 Most of it is just vaguely alluding to "western tradition" and the "great western works of art and literature." As for what they actually read, it's Culture of Critique and the Turner Diaries. Every single time.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:42:56 2020 No.15730309

In every piece of leftist literature I’ve ever read and in every conversation with a leftist that I’ve ever had it seems that they can never make a tangible, coherent, or substantial case for what they believe. Every idea expressed typically comes down to some kind of esoteric or mystical concept. Things like “institutional racism”, “the right side of history”, “dialectical materialism” etc.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:43:15 2020 No.15730311
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>>15730281

If by 'hollow' you mean eminently actionable, and more vital than ever before in our history.

I'd rather be a soulful dimwit than a soulless midwit any day.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:44:06 2020 No.15730314

>>15730246
that's because it's not Materialist lol. It was consciously formed as a reaction to what it saw as materialist philosophies like liberalism and socialism.
>Fascism is therefore opposed to all individualistic abstractions based on eighteenth century materialism; and it is opposed to all Jacobinistic utopias and innovations. It does not believe in the possibility of "happiness" on earth as conceived by the economistic literature of the XVIIIth century, and it therefore rejects the theological notion that at some future time the human family will secure a final settlement of all its difficulties. This notion runs counter to experience which teaches that life is in continual flux and in process of evolution. In politics Fascism aims at realism; in practice it desires to deal only with those problems which are the spontaneous product of historic conditions and which find or suggest their own solutions (9). Only by entering in to the process of reality and taking possession of the forces at work within it, can man act on man and on nature
>Such a conception of life makes Fascism the resolute negation of the doctrine underlying so-called scientific and Marxian socialism, the doctrine of historic materialism which would explain the history of mankind in terms of the class struggle and by changes in the processes and instruments of production, to the exclusion of all else.
>That the vicissitudes of economic life - discoveries of raw materials, new technical processes, and scientific inventions - have their importance, no one denies; but that they suffice to explain human history to the exclusion of other factors is absurd. Fascism believes now and always in sanctity and heroism, that is to say in acts in which no economic motive - remote or immediate - is at work. Having denied historic materialism, which sees in men mere puppets on the surface of history, appearing and disappearing on the crest of the waves while in the depths the real directing forces move and work, Fascism also denies the immutable and irreparable character of the class struggle which is the natural outcome of this economic conception of history; above all it denies that the class struggle is the preponderating agent in social transformations. >Having thus struck a blow at socialism in the two main points of its doctrine, all that remains of it is the sentimental aspiration, old as humanity itself-toward social relations in which the sufferings and sorrows of the humbler folk will be alleviated. But here again Fascism rejects the economic interpretation of felicity as something to be secured socialistically, almost automatically, at a given stage of economic evolution when all will be assured a maximum of material comfort. Fascism denies the materialistic conception of happiness as a possibility, and abandons it to the economists of the mid-eighteenth century.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:45:45 2020 No.15730318 >>15730270 >it's all just so smart you can't grasp it >that's why I can't describe it to you Hmm.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:46:55 2020 No.15730324 >>15730246 >materialist case for materialism can't make a case for anything we ought to do or pursue. It needs to invoke metaphysics at some level, if you think that is 'mystical' you don't understand what basic words mean.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:47:28 2020 No.15730328

>>15730314
ran out of room. Now to what extent this is really referring to some non-material reality is not clear to me. You can read these paragraphs as implying only that human behavior can't be reduced to a homo economicus ''science'', there is always more going on that mere material considerations as liberals/marxists see them. In marxist terms this would be something like refusing the primacy of the base in the base/superstructure I guess.

I get the feeling what is being said is more epistemological and practical than an actual ontological statement about 'spirit' or what have you. But it is ambiguous.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:49:07 2020 No.15730337

>>15730309
Except institutional racism and dialectical materialism are real academic concepts that are observable and tied to reality. Even if you don’t find them particularly compelling they do form the base for a coherent belief system, unlike the magical babble that you find in fascism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:49:45 2020 No.15730342 >>15730246 if you mean actual Fascism then it's just irrational, completely ideological. other far-right thoughts are lot better, but people are obsessed with fascist cringe.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:50:05 2020 No.15730345

>>15730246
Majority of fascists are only being identified as that for their contrarianism and accept that label without having any idea of fascist ideology. And as such the cycle of idiocy where the mainstream political forces(including the far left) declare everything and everyone that disagrees with them as fascist and particular group with tendency to contrarianism accepts that label to later serve as a point of reference for defining fascists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:51:03 2020 No.15730349 File: 37 KB, 398x376, 1592578709377.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15730337 >Except institutional racism and dialectical materialism are real academic concepts that are observable and tied to reality.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:52:04 2020 No.15730358 File: 231 KB, 512x422, 1592843002224.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15730318 He just said he doesn't understand it at all. Why the fuck would someone start by trying to explain it to him?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:52:23 2020 No.15730360 >>15730311 >eminently actionable, and more vital than ever before in our history. THAT! That’s what I’m talking about! Vaguely mystical sounding jargon that could be construed to mean anything!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:53:11 2020 No.15730365 >>15730342 Well-said. It's not much more than tribalism, and the most successful fascist leaders have been the ones who recognized (on some level) the very, very low standards for fascist 'thought.'

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:53:14 2020 No.15730366 >>15730289 if only a REAL girl would have sex with me then I'd have the right political opinions

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:54:06 2020 No.15730371 >>15730337 >oh no don't insult the heckin dialecterino >it's based on REALITY simple as

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:54:36 2020 No.15730373 >>15730342 >fascism is completely ideological what does that mean? as opposed to what?

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:54:41 2020 No.15730375
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>>15730314
>Fascism believes now and always in sanctity and heroism, that is to say in acts in which no economic motive - remote or immediate - is at work.
>bro there's like some kind of mystical voodoo shit driving us trust me

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:55:05 2020 No.15730377 >>15730349 >”I can’t be wrong! It must be every institution that’s ever researched or collected data that’s wrong!”

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:55:22 2020 No.15730379 >>15730358 Just read the interaction again, maybe it will sink in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:55:27 2020 No.15730380 >>15730360 When Hitler came to power, he did exactly what he said he would do in Mein Kampf. How is that 'mystical sounding jargon that could be construed to mean anything'?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:56:04 2020 No.15730383 >>15730337 No such thing as instiutional racism mate just dont commit crime?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:56:18 2020 No.15730386 File: 125 KB, 736x670, clear.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15730337 >institutional racism and dialectical materialism >are real academic concepts

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:56:39 2020 No.15730389 >>15730377 What the fuck even is dialectical materialism? Some kind of pseudophilosophical Jewish hoodoo.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:56:51 2020 No.15730390

>>15730377
If you ever go and look at the data you'll see it's about 100 times more likely that disparities in outcomes between races are due to differences between the races than to discrimination against them.

The whole East Asian thing really, really fucked up the whole narrative about oppressed minorities and IQ being racist.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:56:58 2020 No.15730392

>>15730360
What he means is, when fascist get to action, they actually pull off the revolution.
They have the "praxis" in the sense that, however insane or psychotic the theory of fascism may seem, when put into action by those who firmly believe in its "doctrines", they pull it off without a hitch.
And there's, more often than not, a failed leftist revolution behind that success.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:56:58 2020 No.15730393 >>15730373 as opposed to metaphysics and philosophy.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:57:26 2020 No.15730394

>>15730337
Institutional racism is a form of ideological cope. After desegregation and few decades of affirmative actions failed to materialise in equality of outcomes for African Americans, unable to even consider the possibility of AA's lacking some biological predispositions allowing them to achieve successes in life, the same kind of people(often successors) of those who said all the disparities are caused by segregation started the big cope of systemic racism.

As for dialectical materialism you can actually use it in a manner that kind of fits the observed reality, the problem is that adapting it to reality will inevitably lead to the conclusion that communism isn't a possibility, which is missing the point the framework was made for.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:57:55 2020 No.15730398 >>15730392 >And there's, more often than not, a failed leftist revolution behind that success. See: Nazis vs KPD, Freikorps era, etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:58:54 2020 No.15730401 >>15730246 Fascism operates in the logic of the fairy tale. It is libidinal and unconscious, that is why it doesn't make any sense and exactly why arguing with them is meaningless (you should just hit them really hard, like a stubborn mule)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:59:39 2020 No.15730402 >>15730401 >logic of the fairy tale says the people that think history is inevitably marching on to utopia lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:59:53 2020 No.15730404 File: 238 KB, 1000x750, lgbt marxist.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15730375 >>bro there's like some kind of mystical voodoo shit driving us trust me yes a gay specter is haunting europe and she/him wants your property

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:00:17 2020 No.15730408 >>15730383 Not him, but yes, institutional racism is real. American institutions are largely tailored to white people and they promote white people's values (long term thinking, low impulsivity, order, ...).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:00:31 2020 No.15730410 >>15730314 >>15730375 laughably wrong

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:01:34 2020 No.15730412 >>15730404 Are you a twitter boomer? No one takes that culture industry detritus seriously.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:02:13 2020 No.15730414

>>15730314
I disagree. I think the fact that fascism only aims to restrain (not abolish) capitalism and liberalism, shows that it admits more of a necessary materialistic component to society (it just wisely recognizes that there must always be higher values upon which consumption/profit/individualism may not transgress).

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:02:13 2020 No.15730415

>>15730390
And if you apply more than a child’s level of scrutiny to that data or look at analysis of trends over time you’ll see that every “difference” between the races can be traced to socioeconomic factors and historical conditions. And even ignoring that, the academic consensus is still that there is massive racial discrimination in the United States in terms of employment, housing, bank loans, and in sentencing for crimes.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:02:29 2020 No.15730418

>>15730408
>American institutions are largely tailored to white people and they promote white people's values (long term thinking, low impulsivity, order, ...).
Based. Anyone got the chart where black anericans do worse at school rven when wealth is controlled for?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:02:41 2020 No.15730420 File: 31 KB, 601x508, 1496021870531.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15730410 >laughably wrong

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:03:19 2020 No.15730423 >>15730401 Based

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:03:24 2020 No.15730424

>>15730415
>every “difference” between the races can be traced to socioeconomic factors and historical conditions.
You really can't do this. Nobody has ever, I mean not in one set of data in existence, eliminated the gap in IQ, or income, or crime rates, between blacks and whites in the US, by controlling for variables, no matter what variables they think up to try to control for.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:03:28 2020 No.15730425 >>15730401 Petit bourgeois hedonists spouting this garbage about libido makes me chuckle every time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:03:49 2020 No.15730426 >>15730412 >y-yeah idpol is actually liberal commie cope

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:04:26 2020 No.15730429 File: 44 KB, 700x439, 1593158024887.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] institutional racism is the totally academic field of study which analyzes how evil white people are.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:05:17 2020 No.15730430
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>>15730415
>And even ignoring that, the academic consensus is still that there is massive racial discrimination in the United States in terms of employment, housing, bank loans, and in sentencing for crimes.
I hate black people solely because of their skin color and nothing else lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:05:20 2020 No.15730431 >>15730412 These people think they are living out the freedom that advances in production and the reshaping of man grants them. They are the real dialectical materialists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:06:37 2020 No.15730438 >>15730426 Fascism is idpol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:07:40 2020 No.15730445 >>15730415 Children are actually very good at judging who they can trust by what they look like, unlike you it seems

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:07:58 2020 No.15730450 >>15730404 Yeah, it's not a metaphor for class conflict. Karl was talking about an actual ghost.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:08:14 2020 No.15730451 File: 37 KB, 703x800, 1549260891248.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15730426 >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE BASED ANTI-SJW CHAD YOU CAN'T JUST NOT BE MY STRAWMAN

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:09:08 2020 No.15730455 >>15730445 >uh i operate on the level of a young child, but, uh, thats good Fascism, folks!

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:09:30 2020 No.15730457
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>>15730438
So what? Nobody has EVER tried to deny that. It's only communists that try to pretend their insane leftoid garbage isn't responsible for the current state of affairs.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:09:51 2020 No.15730459

I'd be fine with fascism as long as it's women ruling over men, I just want a big booted mommy to crush my balls and fuck a hung blackman in front of me.
Most people only care about fascism as a fetish anyway, speak long enough with one and you find out all their concepts are just based on craving easier sex, mostly because fascists are highly impotent and can't procreate/reproduce in a free world. So they want to create a world where they do, which they won't be able to because as mentioned before they're impotent and lower class.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:10:33 2020 No.15730462 File: 39 KB, 961x914, received_197795331408393.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15730451 K. KEEP ME POSTED.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:10:40 2020 No.15730463 >>15730459 this post is a good summary of the antifa psychology lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:12:23 2020 No.15730466 >>15730459 This post is a good summary of /pol/ psychology lol

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:13:10 2020 No.15730469

>>15730455
Literally yes, all the academic cope you've consumed has rotted your ability to see the world for what it is, you are invested in the mission of the system you say you hate if you think institutional racism even matters, it it even exists at all. Doesn't Zizek even have a bit about the wisdom of children?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:13:28 2020 No.15730471 >65 replies >18 unique IPs jesus what a sad thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:14:14 2020 No.15730476 >>15730430 I’ll give you points for honesty

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:14:47 2020 No.15730479

>>15730430
>massive racial discrimination in the United States in terms of employment, housing, bank loans, and in sentencing for crimes.
under trump blacks had the lowest unemployment numbers ever, what happened? I thought he was a ultra white supremacist that was gonna kill all the gays and blacks?

how can there be "massive discrimination" when asians (and jews) out perform whites economically, have even lower prison sentences and better educational results, is the system crypto-asian supremacist?
how come nigerian immigrants out perform native blacks (and most other immigrants) despite being even BLACKER than them?

of course things like bank loans and housing and employment are going to be affected by the fact that they are 12% of the population but commit over 50% of the violent crimes, rapes, assaults, arsons, robberies and murders. Meaning a lot of their population is going to have a criminal record, broken families, and poorly educated young adults since they're not finishing school but instead joining gangs and going to prison.

if you control for criminality, education and single-parent families, blacks and whites are basically on par.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:14:58 2020 No.15730480 >>15730469 >literally yes You don't have to do this to yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:16:18 2020 No.15730485 >>15730480 Keep pretending I'm not right, it's not going to get you anywhere tho

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:16:23 2020 No.15730486 >>15730471 That bsically sums up this board lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:17:23 2020 No.15730492 File: 61 KB, 622x621, 1582314738398.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15730476 You can't be this dull. Nobody hates black people because of their black skin.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:18:00 2020 No.15730493 File: 132 KB, 782x758, 1559499668216.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15730471 >noooooooooooooo you can't just have a discussion you have to make one post and then run away

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:18:43 2020 No.15730499 File: 85 KB, 1080x1127, racism stats.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15730479 blacks in america are more interested in that good ol' fashion ultra violence and muh dickin' so their good-boy metrics are gonna be fucked up

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:18:50 2020 No.15730501

>>15730471
You forgot that this is all in the span of less than an hour. OP is a truly rampant faggot.

>>15730410
It's stupidity is actually twofold, disregarding metaphysical whatever, there's real advantageous economic elements to fascism. It's not a coincidence that all of the most successful or prosperous places in the world have higher concentrations of homogeneity.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:19:13 2020 No.15730502

>>15730479
>of course things like bank loans and housing and employment are going to be affected by the fact that they are 12% of the population but commit over 50% of the violent crimes, rapes, assaults, arsons, robberies and murders
false
This talking point is a dogwhistle and completely made up. this "statistic" refers to:

First things first, note at the top of the page: this source is not compiling "crimes committed" it is reporting "arrests". Right off the bat the only thing this "statistic" indicates is that black people are disproportionately arrested by the police, however that is not nearly as potent of a dogwhistle so the wording is tweaked when disseminated online.
It also removes 1/3 of the data collected due to "unidentifiable race"
And is voluntarily submitted by police departments and not legally required to be submitted in it's entirety. In the UCR's own words "the accuracy of the statistics depends primarily on the adherence of each contributor to the established standards of reporting" if the individual reporting the data wants to shape a narrative they can.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:20:17 2020 No.15730508 >>15730499 >media >reporting white on black crime Lmao what country are you living in, over here in america it's nonstop propaganda for white supremacy.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:20:21 2020 No.15730510

>>15730492
antiracists are psychologically incapable of thinking negative things about blacks, no matter what blacks do they will just say it's not their fault. As a result they can't even see them clearly, and they imagine the only reason anyone would dislike them is their skin colour, rather than their behavior.

You'll note that blacks find antiracists quite creepy in person because of the bizarre way that they treat them as children with no agency, while also being terrified of saying anything offensive

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:20:50 2020 No.15730512 File: 100 KB, 1192x364, jIaOe7P.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15730502 cope

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:22:14 2020 No.15730520 >>15730502 >it's just statistical lies bro LOL go live in Baltimore or Detroit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:23:10 2020 No.15730532 File: 224 KB, 1080x1071, racism stats.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15730512

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:23:14 2020 No.15730534 >>15730508 Do you even know who Channon Christian is?

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:23:14 2020 No.15730535

>>15730502
>Right off the bat the only thing this "statistic" indicates is that black people are disproportionately arrested by the police

This would only be an argument where discretionary arrests happen. There is no discretion in fucking murder lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:25:10 2020 No.15730540 >>15730532 >the vast majority of crimes committed are not reported stopped reading there how can you possibly know this if they aren't reported? what retard made this image

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:25:14 2020 No.15730541

>>15730246
I'll be charitable and pretend you aren't baiting. Those notions can simply be seen as an easily relatable way of expressing the biological reality that everything to do with nation/culture is downstream from genetics, or 'ethnos'. As far as honor and tradition goes, again they can be seen as a romanticized expression of socially adapative behaviours/mores passed down over generations.

It simply doesn't do to rely upon scientifically/philosophically exhaustive analysis when trying to promulgate ideology to average people. Romanticization and oversimplification are seen in every ideology... The important thing is whether or not the pre/proscriptions that underlie them are sound and adaptive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:26:13 2020 No.15730545 >>15730540 Dude just trust me there's an invisible multitude of millions of white people living double lives murdering people to round up the statistics to make blacks look less bestial, just trust me bro.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:28:20 2020 No.15730554 What if everyone get what they need amd want and all get a house. Woah this real deep thinkin. Every ideology in plain terms sounds retarded or Ideal

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:29:34 2020 No.15730564 >>15730532 do you seriously think a statistically significant number of murders go unreported? And that white people are the main ones who aren't reported? The fuck?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:30:09 2020 No.15730567 >>15730534 Do you even know who Freddie Gray is?

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:31:00 2020 No.15730574
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>>15730508
If the media reported crime statistics correctly you wouldn't have BLM protests, you'd have WLM protests. The media hides stats, hides facts, over-exaggerates systemic racism, doesn't explain reality and paints whites as the villains 99 times outta 100, this is supported academically, if you say White Lives Matter you will be reprimanded and ostracized. If you say White Lives Don't Matter you get a reward. Why? Because the institutions of education and the media are pushing the narrative that blacks are victims of systemic white oppression and evil cops looking to lynch them all. Insanity.

That Bret Weinstein professor was mobbed by protestors and had cancel culture crowd demand his resignation because he refused to agree to a "Day of Absence" at the college, white teachers and students were asked to be absent that day, simply because they were white....

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:32:28 2020 No.15730578 File: 40 KB, 500x441, EYEFnjKWoAEwFWP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15730532 cope

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:32:51 2020 No.15730581

>>15730567
Yeah if you search him you find dozens of mainstream news outlets talking about him. If you search Channon Christian you find a wikipedia page that explains that there was barely any coverage of the incident until an internet site forced a small amount of outlets to admit it happened.

But yeah the media, totally white supremacist.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:33:46 2020 No.15730585 Nick Fuentes isn't a Fascist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:34:25 2020 No.15730588 >>15730578 >nooooo you cant just have complex ideas that you need to express with several sentences you're supposed to think like a child

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:35:42 2020 No.15730595

This board has been getting brigaded by right wingers a lot in recent months. Hopefully it calms down eventually, damn it talk about books
>>15730581
If you search Channon Christian you find dozens of mainstream news outlets talking about him. If you search Freddie Gray find that there was barely any coverage of the incident until people on internet forced media to admit it happened.
Media exists to propagate white supremacy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:37:22 2020 No.15730603 >>15730595 You can't just reverse what I said to say something completely fucking untrue you little faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:37:22 2020 No.15730604 >>15730311 >I'd rather be a soulful dimwit than a soulless midwit any day. fascist ideology summed up nicely

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:38:26 2020 No.15730609 >>15730604 If I could go back in time and join the S.A., I would do it, even knowing how the war ends.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:40:14 2020 No.15730617 >>15730603 Everything I've said is factual. Media doesn't report on victims of white supremacy until people go and start protesting and shit. Meanwhile everytime anything bad happens to whites it gets a 24/7 coverage

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:41:34 2020 No.15730623 >>15730617 You had never even heard of the woman I mentioned being kidnapped, tortured, and brutally murdered. The media never reports on these people, you're a fucking liar and a coward.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:43:23 2020 No.15730632 >>15730617 Didn't know you lived in opposite world.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:44:06 2020 No.15730636 >>15730623 You had never even heard of the man I mentioned. The media never reports on these people, you're a fucking racist and a coward.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:44:57 2020 No.15730640

>>15730617
>meanwhile, in reality
https://townhall.com/columnists/mikeadams/2020/06/02/white-man-cant-breathe-n2569897
>The police video shows that Dillard pins Timpa to the ground with his knee in his back for more than 13 minutes. When the officers first arrived at the scene, they told Timpa he would be OK. “We’re going to get you some help, man,” one of the officers tells him. But within 15 minutes, Dillard can be heard saying: “I hope I didn’t kill him.” Finally, Dillard turned to someone before shutting off his camera and said, “Sorry. We tried.”
>This is how three police officers presided over the death of Tony Timpa. There were no George Soros funded protests. There were no Antifa riots. He was only 32. And he was only white.
People start protesting precisely because of the media.

You don't have an original thought in your head, you are the ultimate consumer just responding to your overmasters propaganda.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:45:57 2020 No.15730643 >>15730603 >You can't just reverse what I said to say something completely fucking untrue you little faggot He can and did. What now? Truth is white supremacy, you bigot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:45:58 2020 No.15730642 >>15730636 There are DOZENS of articles about him in the mainstream press. There are like 2 for Christian Shannon Do you think you can just blatantly fucking lie about something anyone can google you repulsive piece of shit?

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:46:17 2020 No.15730646
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>>15730588
>complex idea
Not complex, just a stupid idea, you're just ignoring what we do know, hoping that what we don't know supports your narrative.
For example we do know that men commit more murder and crime than women, statistically. Your idea is that "what if women commit more? we just don't know because there are crimes that go unreported!"

I draw conclusions from what we do know. You want to draw conclusions from what you DONT KNOW. Total nonsense.

>black neighborhoods are heavily policed
yea by black and latino cops, usually in democrat controlled cities.
blacks are the most engaged in gang activity, of course they're gonna get policed more.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:49:13 2020 No.15730662

>>15730595
>>15730617
>Freddie Gray
>Attacks a cop while trying to deal drugs
>Gets killed in self defense
>National outrage for several months
>Mainstream media keeps constantly screeching about it

>Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom
>get kidnapped
>Tortured
>Raped
>For days
>Murdered
>You're a racist fascist if you know who either of these two people are
>Some queer on the internet gets mad that people care more about these two than some pavement ape that died after attacking a cop while trying to deal drugs

If you google the former, you get hagiography from BBC, Vox, Vice, Rollingstone, NPR, and other major media sites. His Wikipedia article is several dozen paragraphs of apologetics for the fact that he attacked a cop while he was trying to deal drugs. If you google the latter, you get a few youtube videos and some local news. They were not mentioned, at all, by the BBC, Vox, Vice, Rollingstone, or NPR, as a search of these websites will demonstrate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:49:42 2020 No.15730665 >>15730532 >Black people overpoliced >Chicago has hundreds of uninvestigated murders every year Woah, so Black people might be responsible for MORE than 50% of murders

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:50:09 2020 No.15730669

>>15730642
Every time a white woman stubs her toe next to a black man there is a media frenzy going on for months on end calling for lynching him. Meanwhile only time when a black man gets tortured and murdered media is quiet, until people start protests.
I get it's nice to live in a fantasy world for you, but it doesn't change the fact that you're an impotent bitch and can't cope with reality, you fucking soiboi

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:52:21 2020 No.15730682

>>15730642
The wikipedia article straight up says that the reason it was "underreported" was because it wasn't a hate crime, it was just a particularly gruesome act of violence, which is not terribly uncommon, as shocking as that might sound. When was the last the local apolitical murder/rape/kidnapping in your city received national coverage?

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:52:48 2020 No.15730685

>>15730669
>Every time a white woman stubs her toe next to a black man there is a media frenzy going on for months on end calling for lynching him.
name a single fucking example, just one. Do you know how often blacks randomly murder whites and you never hear about it?

You're a pathetic liar and a coward

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:53:52 2020 No.15730694 >>15730685 Despite only making up 12% of population, black people are 70% of victims of hate crimes You're a pathetic liar and a coward

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:54:25 2020 No.15730697 >>15730685 >it's an epidemic of random secret murders that you don't hear about

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:54:34 2020 No.15730698 >>15730682 Was Zimmerman a 'political murder'?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:55:36 2020 No.15730705 >>15730694 They literally don't record it as a hate crime if a black person attacks whites while yelling 'fuck white people' >>15730697 They're recorded. the media doesnt report them

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:56:35 2020 No.15730709 >>15730705 >the media doesnt report them Then why do you trust them about George Floyd? Or Trayvon Martin?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:57:36 2020 No.15730714 >>15730709 What the fuck are you talking about, all the media did was endlessly drone on about both of them

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:59:00 2020 No.15730722

>>15730669
>Every time a white woman stubs her toe next to a black man there is a media frenzy going on for months on end calling for lynching him
Are you fucking blind. Look at every viral video for the last 3 months showing White woman-Black man interactions. Be it the Central Park dog-walker or the road rage woman that got followed home.
Look at those two examples-
>Central Park
Guy with no dog is carrying around dog treats and tries to coax away woman's dog
Woman freaks out
>Road rage
Woman flips off black guy at intersection
Black guy takes this as invitation to FOLLOW HER HOME- who the fuck does that?

These cases are invariably two riled up pricks who get in each other's business, wherein the black guy starts recording as the woman freaks out, afterwhich it's channels like CNN, Twitter Blue-checks and people like YOU who call for and SUCCEED IN getting the white woman fired and ostracised.
Had the black guy been white nobody would have given an ounce of a shit, but because he's got black skin Wokesters infer some sort of racial animosity on the part of the white woman. Why would anybody even deal with black people if any negative experience they have with you gives them carte blanche to destroy your life?

Karen is just a slur for white women who have standards. The best slurs are ones that people deny are slurs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:01:14 2020 No.15730733 >>15730714 Yeah, it's done nothing but spew racist propaganda that these two deserved to die.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:02:00 2020 No.15730741 >>15730733 You are completely fucking delusional, the entire press support George Floyd and Black Lives Matter What the fuck are you even talking about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:02:59 2020 No.15730752 >no not my heckin karenaroonis >it wasnt a false police report! he had pockets full of treats to STEAL dogs! god this is epic

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:05:19 2020 No.15730765

>>15730714
>>15730733
George Floyd sired 5 children and refused to care for any of them, and took part in an armed robbery where he took a pregnant woman hostage and held a knife to her belly while his buddies ransacked her house.
His autopsy also showed he had a cocktail of drugs in his bloodstream when he died. It's likely he ingested whatever he intended to sell on the streets just before the police apprehended him.

This is all on state books and publicly available.
Despite this, every media outlet except for Fox News hailed him as a noble family man as his gold plated coffin was carted around the country. This total waste of oxygen got a pharaoh's send off.

The left is always going on about rebellion and thinking for yourself. Why can't you see that millions only think George Floyd was a good person because BLM, large businesses, and the media tell you so?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:06:01 2020 No.15730767 >>15730752 You realize how much of a fucking coward you are? pathetic piece of human shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:08:33 2020 No.15730777 >>15730765 Floyd could have been history's greatest and it still wouldn't have given an officer any good reason to crush his windpipe over a counterfeit $20 bill.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:08:35 2020 No.15730778 >>15730752 I own dogs and most of the time don't have dog treats, not even in the house, let alone with me while walking. Why does some random person have them? Do you appreciate why this is an unnerving situation?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:09:27 2020 No.15730781 >>15730777 luckily that didn't happen, he died of a drug overdose because he was trash

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:09:39 2020 No.15730783

>>15730246
Nick isn't a fascist; he's a paleoconservative. There's a world of difference - the first believes in the state above all (the state is all), the second argues for minimal government.

Fascists believe in:

1. Absolute devotion to the State (as in, everything that matters is the State and the State is in everything).
2. The necessity of political violence.
3. Staunch collectivism.
4. The rule of one.
5. Totalitarianism (as the State is everything, it must decide every aspect of citizens' private and public lives).
6. Dictatorship (in the sense of the unquestioned rulership of one).
7. Some ephemeral notion of a constant moving forward.
8. Following on from this - action for the sake of action.
9. Meta reality must take the place of reality - faith over reason. What is necessary according to the State is more important than what is true.
10. A mixed economy (usually in the form of corporatism where unions of employees and unions of employers are made to work together for the good of the State).
11. A veneration of an idealised past (the best bits of which you will seek to embody whilst not allowing for any parts that might undermine more modern innovations you deem positive).
12. An imperialist foreign policy.
13. Autarky.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:10:27 2020 No.15730787 >>15730765 Yeah, the officer telepathically sensed his whole life story and determined that he needed to be killed in the street over twenty dollars. C'mere, I have something non-lethal to do to your neck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:11:19 2020 No.15730790 >>15730787 he wasn't killed you fucking retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:12:20 2020 No.15730793 >>15730246 fascism = life (equally, fear of death) leftism = death t. leftist

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:13:09 2020 No.15730795 >>15730781 >>15730790 So I can trust you to lay down and sit still? I need ten minutes to do something harmless and not dangerous to your fat fucking neck

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:13:09 2020 No.15730796

>>15730777
Sure, he shouldn't have died in that way, but that's not what I'm concerned about right now.
>George Floyd sired 5 children and refused to care for any of them, and took part in an armed robbery where he took a pregnant woman hostage and held a knife to her belly while his buddies ransacked her house.
His autopsy also showed he had a cocktail of drugs in his bloodstream when he died. It's likely he ingested whatever he intended to sell on the streets just before the police apprehended him.
Why is it that if I put this paragraph up on facebook as a statement of fact that I would be fired from my job? The truth should never be beyond the pale

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:13:41 2020 No.15730799 >>15730795 you can get shot in the face you fucking faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:14:15 2020 No.15730804 >>15730795 >thinking it takes 10 minutes to suffocate imagine being this dumb

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:14:48 2020 No.15730805 >>15730795 If he didn't want to get detained, he shouldn't have swung at the cop.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:15:43 2020 No.15730807

>>15730246
The truth is that fascism is mainly theatrical. It values symbolic actions according to their outward representation. Content - while not unimportant - in that regard is secondary.

It's about style. You could have a perfectly democratic society where no fascist would complain if that society employed fascist symbolism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:15:44 2020 No.15730808 >>15730799 You're not on drugs, so what's the risk? I just need to rest my knee between your chins.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:15:59 2020 No.15730810

>>15730787
I'm stating facts that he's a terrible person. I didn't say the police had the right to kill him. You reached that conclusion all by yourself

Also, Chauvin and Floyd were former co-workers you pseudo-intellectual. Would be shocked if he didn't know about his past

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:16:18 2020 No.15730812 >>15730694 false >>15730584

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:16:48 2020 No.15730813 >>15730805 >detained hmm, are you sure this is what happened?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:17:43 2020 No.15730815 >>15730808 keep licking nigger boots you bitch

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:20:04 2020 No.15730826

>>15730813
>Get cops called on you for using counterfeit bills
>Swallow your stash of meth, coke, and fentanyl
>Cops come
>Take a swing at the cop in a drug induced haze
>OD and die
This is all on record. Again, if the media is just an instrument of White Supremacy, as you argued here, >>15730733, why are you trusting their narrative on this matter? Why aren't you actually looking at what the police records say? Hell, the fucking autopsy revealed no evidence of suffocation or strangulation, just a drug overdose.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:20:15 2020 No.15730827

>>15730808
Go ahead. Fair warning, if I can't breath then it's impossible to blow air out my windpipe to sound out the phrase "I can't breath" numerous times over the course of minutes.
You really think police don't hear people whining as they get arrested dozens of times a week? People are always saying stupid shit like the cuffs hurt or they need to sit down and generally being unco-operative.
Especially some hulking figure like Floyd who was inebriated according to camera footage and numerous witnesses

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:22:37 2020 No.15730831 >>15730815 Calm down, Cletus, I get where youre coming from. It would take at least three cops kneeling to put a dent in that gravy pipe you call a neck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:23:36 2020 No.15730835 >>15730831 your voice is muffled by the boot tip speak up

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:24:42 2020 No.15730841 >>15730831 Did you know niggers are by far the fattest Americans

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:27:14 2020 No.15730851

>>15730826
>the police didn't murder anyone, they actually just released an autopsy that said they didn't!
And multiple independent autopsies confirmed otherwise. Weird how that happens when you put a deparment in charge of investigating crimes its accused of

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:28:45 2020 No.15730861 >>15730835 >>15730841 Fat retard samefags almost exactly a minute apart, more at 10

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:29:17 2020 No.15730864 >>15730851 You mean the ""autopsy"" by the guy who watched the video without examining the body lmao. You dumb fuck you just believe whatever you're told

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:30:26 2020 No.15730869 >>15730861 Niggers are also the dumbest, most violent, laziest, and generally useless demographic. Not only in the US, but in every other country. In fact there is strangely not a single country of them that isn't absolute trash

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:30:26 2020 No.15730870

>>15730827
>if I can't breath then it's impossible to blow air out my windpipe to sound out the phrase "I can't breath" numerous times over the course of minutes.

His supply of oxygen was being restricted, so that his heart began to die. When fascists say he died of "cardiopulmonary arrest" it is the equivalent of saying that he "died of death", as that simply means he stopped breathing and his heart stopped beating. Technically everyone dies of cardiopulmonary arrest.

George Floyd's death was caused by restricting his airway. If the cop had not knelt on the neck of Floyd he would not have killed Floyd. It's very simple. He did not die of a "heart attack", covid, alcohol, or anything else. The fact his airway was restricted slowly asphyxiated the man, and then he died.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:31:14 2020 No.15730877 >>15730765 What's funny is the BLM cancel culture sjws will go insane and try to cancel people for something bad joke they said 6 years ago, but when it comes to black armed robbers and druggies they ignore all their past sins lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:31:46 2020 No.15730881 >>15730870 stop crying you little faggot the piece of shit is dead, deserved it, and so will you when you get your face shot off

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:32:26 2020 No.15730885 >>15730864 Baden-Wilson autopsy, handled his corpse and reported asphyxiation from compressed diaphragm. No idea what you're on about.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:33:15 2020 No.15730889

>>15730870
if your air way is restricted you don't hang around for 9 minutes blabbering, you just die in like 1-2 minutes without being able to talk

FLoyd had 3 problems, fentanyl, meth, and a heart condition. Probably just laying on the ground with a cop on his back for 9 minutes with that combination fucked him up.
He died of cardiac arrest not strangulation according to official autopsy

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:35:05 2020 No.15730893 [DELETED]

>>15730889
whatever the reason for his death, it doesn't matter because these BLM protests are an artificial creation by the media and decaying education system.

Retards are too stupid to do some quick research to see there's no epidemic of police brutality, that 93% of blacks are killed by blacks, and they shouldn't fear cops at all, they should fear their own culture and race

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:35:39 2020 No.15730895 >>15730881 >yes officer tanner, it would be an honor to watch you fuck my wife >w-would you please use the Punisher condom? n-no? okay... >thank you for your service...

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:36:28 2020 No.15730897

>>15730889

Protestors are too stupid to do some quick research to see there's no epidemic of police brutality, and there's no white supremacy nonsense in America or Europe, they're the most libshit subverted places on earth.
93% of blacks are killed by blacks, they shouldn't fear cops, they should fear their own culture and race, they should fear themselves when they look in the mirror.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:37:08 2020 No.15730900 >>15730889 >according to the autopsy the cops did on someone they killed, it wasn't their fault if you believe this, wait until you hear about the secret utopia of north korea

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:37:12 2020 No.15730901

>>15730870
Fentanyl killed 50,000 Americans last year, all in the exact same way.
Step 1: Fentanyl inhibits the body's natural reflex to keep airways open
Step 2: Consumer goes unconscious, slouching over
Step 3: The airway is compressed and the subject asphixiated
Do you think Floyd's death can be proven *beyond a reasonable doubt* to be exclusively via knee? And not through the fentanyl?
Because when the attorneys bumped the charges up to 1st degree, they need to find a way to prove *Beyond a reasonable doubt* to every single person on that jury that it was 100% the Knee and not the fentanyl

This isn't even touching all the other shit in his bloodstream btw

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:37:45 2020 No.15730902 >>15730851 You're going to have to cite a source on that, bud.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:38:25 2020 No.15730904

>>15730897
it's not that easy, if you google "is there police brutality" or "white systemic racism" or whatever normies ask, you'll get a bunch of kosher google/yahoo/msm articles and opinion pieces pushing the same narrative they hear on TV and on social media

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:38:35 2020 No.15730906 >>15730895 Did you check with the niggers if you're allowed to say this, it might offend them in some way you couldn't realize due to white privilege

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:40:20 2020 No.15730911 >>15730902 Baden-Wilson autopsy, Hennepin county medical examiner.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:40:20 2020 No.15730912 File: 340 KB, 604x822, 1593076423734.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >systemic white supremacy White people can't even make a Campus group or Dating App for white people without the entire world going crazy and shutting us down lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:42:06 2020 No.15730918 What's the point of resisting arrest? Except aggravating the situation? In europe educated whites / arabs / blacks don't resist arrest. Officers are only doing what they are paid for, and if you resist it's normal that they have to use strengh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:43:17 2020 No.15730920 >>15730911 >no toxicology report >no access to the body >purely using video evidence So then no, a second autopsy wasn't done.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:46:00 2020 No.15730936 BLM sjws getting btfo in this thread What's a good book on black criminality?

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:46:12 2020 No.15730939

>>15730918
Recidivist felons understand that getting processed means going back to prison.
Them and double digit IQ individuals believe if they can wrangle their way out of the situation they win. The Wendy's video sums it up pretty well. The risk of DEATH doesn't really enter the felon's brain. They genuinely think beating up and even killing a police officer while trying to escape is preferable to whatever the law enforcement might do if you come quietly.
Now that I mention it Trayvon did the same thing to Zimmerman (whacked his head against the ground) and Mike Brown punched that guy in the head while trying to grab the gun.
They're not very bright

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:46:34 2020 No.15730944 >>15730906 >whoa, s-sir? you're being kind of rough with my wife there >n-no i'm not resisting... sorry... >i guess it's only fair that you get to cum in her. i'll try not to get in the way

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:46:53 2020 No.15730945

>>15730889
>He died of cardiac arrest not strangulation according to official autopsy

Let me explain one more time before I go to eat my lunch. "cardiac arrest" means the heart is dying, not that the suddenly is triggered to spasm, or beat irregularly, or however you imagine it. The heart stops functioning because tissue and muscle dies. A cardiopulmonary arrest means that the heart stops and breathing stops. Technically everyone who dies will have their heart and breathing stop, but it is incorrect to write cause of death as "cardiopulmonary arrest". Again, the cause of death is not dying, but the thing causing death.

In Floyd's case, the officer was asphyxiating him and restricting oxygen. Because of a lack of oxygen the heart began to die until it stopped functioning, and Floyd died. His airway was restricted, and eventually from oxygen deprivation he became unconscious an died. Not having a heart condition would've kept him alive, but the fentanyl may have depressed his breathing slightly. These two things are not sufficient to explain how Floyd died. He died because the officer knelt on his neck. This caused his heart to die and his breathing to stop, killing him.

Clearly the coroner does not want to explain the cause of death as the cop kneeling, as that would be tantamount to accusation of manslaugher or murder, and the coroner was referred to precisely because of this legal problem. If Floyd was shot it would say he died of blood loss, etc. That does not imply the shooter in this scenario is innocent or non-causal, simply because the coroner writes "died of blood loss" and not "died from being murdered by a cop".

It's not complex. Anyway, I need to eat. I hope you read this and try to understand definitions of what words mean in the future before you post.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:49:14 2020 No.15730958 >>15730920 The medical examiner's report includes the full toxicology report and multiple tissue samples, proving yet again that you are a retard who is unwilling or unable to read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:49:17 2020 No.15730960 >>15730945 >I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I'll have you know... He died of an overdose, dude. Get over it. It's really that simple.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:49:43 2020 No.15730962

>>15730945
>Not having a heart condition would've kept him alive

oops, should be "Not having a heart condition would not have kept him alive". And besides that he would've survived if he had the heart of a 20 year old is a counterfactual that can't be justified.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:49:53 2020 No.15730963

>>15730936
Look up CIA national statistics. It's publicly available.
In fact before the breakdown by race there's a paragraphs-long preamble warning the reader that taking the stats out of context could radicalise the public against certain demographics
I'm stunned pro-BLM types haven't used this caveat to try and dismiss ALL the data gathered so far off the back of that alone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:49:58 2020 No.15730964 >>15730945 No he died from the fentanyl lol you really can't prove it was the knee

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:50:51 2020 No.15730969

>>15730958
Yes, it does, and it demonstrates that he died of an overdose.

The Baden-Wilson "autopsy" did not have access to the body, and did not do a toxicology report. It's based purely on video evidence. You should actually look into this before talking about it.

It's your word that Floyd was a saint and didn't do anything wrong against the word of a blood test stating that he had a lethal level of fentanyl, meth, and coke in his bloodstream. When a second bloodtest comes in, this can be re-evaluated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:51:06 2020 No.15730970 >>15730945 >people suffocate when they are choked to death actually I disagree with this because it's inconvenient to me in this specific case

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:51:27 2020 No.15730973 Threads like this just prove to me that fascists are fucking delusional midwits.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:51:32 2020 No.15730974 >>15730944 Caring about your child being your own genetic lineage is right wing chauvinism and deeply problematic anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:52:36 2020 No.15730979 >>15730973 Yeah we lefties know that every black population on earth is trash because of magic racism spells wafting through the air keeping them that way

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:53:02 2020 No.15730980 >>15730969 I don't care what a bunch of fucking bigots said was in his blood, you stupid racist. Dozens of Black men are lynched every fucking day, and if you can't see that then you're a fucking evil psychopath.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:53:05 2020 No.15730981

>>15730939
I agree with you totally.

Recidivist have no one to blame except themselves.

Imo nothing will change as long as people will sugarcoat criminal who resist arrest.

Did Floyd deserve to die? Of course not.

But he found himself on the ground with a knee on his neck because of himself. Cops just used what they were taught. Situation would have gone smoother had he not resisted and acted like an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:53:15 2020 No.15730984 >>15730979 here's (You)r gold, stranger

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:54:06 2020 No.15730990 >>15730964 >>15730970

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:54:26 2020 No.15730993 >muh IQ >muh statistics without context >muh psychopathic "solutions" It all boils down to these for rightwingfags huh

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:56:12 2020 No.15731000

>>15730993
Meanwhile you guys
>we have absolutely no evidence for our view of racial equality
>how dare you even question it
>all your evidence is obviously wrong though we can't explain why
>we get hysterical if you disagree
>what no this totally isn't a religion

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:57:19 2020 No.15731007

>>15730969
Other reply is bait and not me.
The county medical examiner declared it a homicide, cardiopulmonary arrest following neck compression. You didn't read it, so you assumed it was the police autopsy and moved on to the one you wanted to talk about.
Proving, yet again, that you are a retard unwilling or unable to read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:58:02 2020 No.15731010 >>15730980 I cannot tell if this is unironic

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:58:06 2020 No.15731011
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>>15730969
>The Baden-Wilson "autopsy" did not have access to the body, and did not do a toxicology report. It's based purely on video evidence. You should actually look into this before talking about it.
LOL HOW WILL BLMbots ever recover?

Stats are against them
Facts are against them
autopsies are against them

Fucken heck, their whole movement is pure ideology, with no grounding.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:58:41 2020 No.15731014

>>15730980
(you)
>>15730981
The horrible truth is that No Lives Matter. Not really. Floyd's life didn't matter to anybody before the officer took the knee. If he died from drug overdose in an alley nobody would care. If a fellow drug dealer killed him nobody would care.
Everybody seems to twist themselves in knots over those English people last week getting stabbed to death, or that elderly mall cop who got murdered trying to stop looting in Minneapolis.
None of their lives mattered, because for those with power there was no agenda to be pushed or laws to be changed by dwelling on their deaths.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:59:41 2020 No.15731017

>>15731000
Races are literally defined by group differences. The point is that races are subsets of humanity, and so all members of all races still partake in humanity. The claim made by liberals is that that property of humanity implies certain rights. We are all equal in that we are all human, not that we are all the same... You don't seem to understand the thing you hate so much.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:00:50 2020 No.15731020

>>15731017
No the claim of liberals is that everyone is the same, and therefore disparities in group outcomes like income and crime rates can only be due to white racism, therefore nonwhites are justified in hating whites, and laws should be passed to redistribute wealth and make racism the ultimate sin.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:01:40 2020 No.15731022

>>15731000
It's literally the scientific consensus, and there have been absolutely no studies that can stand up to any scientific rigor that prove any substantial differences between so called races when accounting for socio-economic factors. Stay seething about this, my friend ;)

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:01:45 2020 No.15731023

>>15731007
>these guys who didn't have access to the body
>who didn't do a blood test
>who are only working of off video evidence
>tell me what I want to hear
>even though they didn't have a body
>didn't do a blood test
>REFUTES the blood test
>and the report by people who did have the body
You're being irrational, and hurting those around you. I get that quarantine was stressful, and that you're scared, but holy shit dude you're taking this religion a little far. Take a look at yourself, man. Are you being the man your father wanted you to be? What would your mother think? Take a step away from the internet, and stop going on Reddit, it's not good for your health.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:02:18 2020 No.15731025 [DELETED]

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>>15730889
If you actually read the official autopsy you'd see the cause of death is listed as cardiac arrest complicated by subdual and neck compression by law enforcement. In real life, there isn't always one highly specific cause of death to the exclusion of all else. And that's what happened here. It doesn't let the cops off the hook for continuing to kneel on a man's neck while he was laying on the ground dying and begging for his life. They're police, they have a responsibility not to let shit like that happen. Race issues and rioting and the history of Floyd himself aside, that's what happened. You wouldn't have to be employing dishonest tactics like this if you weren't a sneaky little piece of shit acting in bad faith, as all of your kind ultimately are. You do it every single time something like this happens too. Like when that /pol/tard incel drove his car into a group of protesters and killed a fat chick. You went straight to scheming together on your discord and made up a bunch of fake shit about how she actually died of a heart attack. Source: your ass. Same think with the infamous 'le /pol/ face' guy who went on a racially motivated shooting spree. You fags went straight to work concocting a fake screencap painting him as a registered democrat. Source: again, your asses.

And you want to act like your ideology is so deep and rife with substance when, ultimately, it just boils down to lying about shit on the internet and hoping it sticks. You couldn't have less substance if you tried. It's so obvious to anyone with more than a couple of braincells to rub together too (which precludes the type of people who ultimately get recruited into your little internet cult). If you're bullshitting all the time, you've got something to hide. That goes as much for the drunken loudmouth at the bar bragging about all the girls he's never actually banged as it goes for you. Best case scenario, you're a water balloon filled with piss.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:02:31 2020 No.15731030 >>15730270 No arguments detected here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:02:57 2020 No.15731033 >>15731011 County medical examiner had toxicology and corpse access, still deemed it a homicide. Keep trying.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:03:02 2020 No.15731034 >>15731020 Jeepers, you have cracked the code. The mayocide must begin early now thanks to your incessant meddling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:03:03 2020 No.15731035 >>15731022 And yet every black population on earth is fucking shit lol. Not one example of them succeeding

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:04:44 2020 No.15731042 >>15731034 non reply because I am entirely right that that is the logic used by progressives

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:05:04 2020 No.15731044 >>15731023 All this to avoid admitting you hadn't read the County autopsy? That you just thought it was the private autopsy vs. the police autopsy? All this cope, just to avoid owning up to that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:05:27 2020 No.15731047 >>15731014 I mean if those people on twitter really cared about this issue, they would protest over the intra racial murder rate. Have you seen how many black people kill black? BLM is just a trend and when summer ends, it will be forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:06:41 2020 No.15731053 >>15731044 >I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I'll have you know that the television told me... Drugs kill, anon. There's a reason DARE was a thing. Methanyl kills 50,000 people every year, there's a reason people are upset about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:07:11 2020 No.15731054 >>15730246 the father and theoretician of fascism was giovanni gentile, an italian philosopher: try reading him

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:07:13 2020 No.15731055

>>15731017
>The claim made by liberals is that that property of humanity implies certain rights.
This claim can't be justified within the liberal framework, since it can't derive "oughts" about humans simply from their material characteristics.... unless it piggy-backs on some system of metaphysics that aims at a universal/transcendental good, unfortunately that would privilege one ethic above another, and deny pluralism and tolerance and individual freedom and all the characteristics liberalism wishes to have.

>We are all equal in that we are all human, not that we are all the same.
This is incoherent. Children are human, but they don't have the same *equality* duties and rights as adults.

What's ironic is that for most of the history of liberalism other races were seen as subhuman, based on their historical situations and "progress". This is because the liberal theorist is the measure of right and wrong, and can change what it means to be human, child, black, white, man, or woman as he pleases, since he lacks a transcendent/permanent foundation to make critiques from beyond appealing to "liberal consensus".

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:08:18 2020 No.15731061
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"The growing proletarianization of modern man and the increasing formation of masses are two aspects of the same process. Fascism attempts to organize the newly created proletarian masses without affecting the property structure which the masses strive to eliminate. Fascism sees its salvation in giving these masses not their right, but instead a chance to express themselves. The masses have a right to change property relations; Fascism seeks to give them an expression while preserving property. The logical result of Fascism is the introduction of aesthetics into political life. The violation of the masses, whom Fascism, with its Führer cult, forces to their knees, has its counterpart in the violation of an apparatus which is pressed into the production of ritual values.

All efforts to render politics aesthetic culminate in one thing: war. War and war only can set a goal for mass movements on the largest scale while respecting the traditional property system. This is the political formula for the situation. The technological formula may be stated as follows: Only war makes it possible to mobilize all of today’s technical resources while maintaining the property system. It goes without saying that the Fascist apotheosis of war does not employ such arguments."

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:10:37 2020 No.15731065

>>15731000
>you guys
Nice me vs. them/black and white attitude, but I'll still give it a try
>>we have absolutely no evidence for our view of racial equality
Well yes congratulations there is no scientific evidence for such a thing, and I find it hilarious you nutjobs are so esoteric at one time with your le epic war and neoclassical mottos and aesthetics and other mystical bullshit, but when it suits the situation you love to this raw scientific data (with zero context obviously, that's exceeds your capabilities) and demand hard cold facts, arguments and citations that back up opposing views, and would love nothing more than to quantise, measure and compare everything. And only in this sickly modernist scientific way of thinking could something as basic and as necessary as human rights be so easily misunderstood. Any equality isn't real, it's not measurable, it's always an ideal. Equality is the ideal of ordering society in such a way that every human being can develop their nature and best traits as much as they can, in their own nature, and create a life worth living. These are fucking basics, and you nutjobs don't even know what you're arguing against when you argue against democracy, human rights, equality etc.
As for the rest of your horseshit post - just strawmen.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:11:16 2020 No.15731068

>>15730246
If you want third positionism spelled out for you, it's about loyalty and about selfhood.
Loyalty is to everything that makes you and that you're making. Everything that you're a part of and that's a part of you. Everything that's similar to you.
Who you are, is everything you're part of and that's part of you. It's everything that's part of you, including when those things recur in others. That makes them you. It's everything that makes you. Be it people, or trees, or landscape.
Third position is about loyalty and about self. But self not only in the narrowly individualist sense, because what's unique to a person is only a fraction of their identity. It's about group. It's about commonality, about creation.
So "fascism" is too narrow. What you probably mean is something like "nationalism" or "racialism". But even those are subsets of what I'm describing, which I think is closer to the core of third position.
It's identity.
Think of the organic loyalty you have to your family. Think of how you accept them and love them even if you might want to rearrange things.
And maybe that's more important than third position, which could in some ways be better described as something like identitarian pan-extremism (something like the "Chad centrism" pictured here [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESgupvOWsAAMsdU?format=jpg&name=medium] done in the direction of benefitting groups).

All of this is instinctual. I can write something like the above to explain this theoretically, and it does interest me in terms of making a rational case for things like self-sacrifice. But ultimately it's about feeling. And the grugs, whose feelings aren't clouded by the chattering monkeys in their brain, get it right. It's up to the big brains to explain things for the mid-level people.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:11:41 2020 No.15731070
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>>15730246
>Hurr durr
>Everything I don't like is fascist
>Why are fascists so dumb?

Want to provide some actual examples?
Mussolini did almost everything wrong but I would never call his work incoherent. It all follows a clear pattern mirroring Hindu ideas merged with christian and socialist thought at the time.

But I'm wasting my time because you are going to quote Trump and random Internet nobodies as fascists, and not the people who identified and fought for fascism.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:11:44 2020 No.15731071

>>15731025
>umm actually you're right but....it's a bit more complicated
>ALSO YOU ARE LYING YOUR LYING YOUR IDEOLOGY
well that elevated quickly
calm down.
I never said the cop followed correct procedure, his kneeling probably hurt Floyd to some degree... but the idea that he was looking to lynch a negro because of systemic white supremacy or whatever BLMbots are saying is baseless nonsense.
Cop got arrested and hopefully justice will be served, whatever way it goes.
Police have a problem with using force on every race. Google Daniel Shaver, the only reform cops need is better and more training.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:12:24 2020 No.15731074 >>15731055 >duties and rights Moving the goalposts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:13:18 2020 No.15731079 >>15731065 every single black country and city is shit lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:13:36 2020 No.15731080 >>15731070 >that image >commies = nazis hurr durr God what a fucking brainlet take

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:13:56 2020 No.15731082 >>15731074 >three words no argument well you tried

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:14:42 2020 No.15731086 >>15731079 You have the emotional intellect, stubbornness and dishonesty of a child, it's pointless arguing with you fashies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:14:42 2020 No.15731087 >>15731080 >commies = nazis hurr durr God what a fucking brainlet take

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:15:08 2020 No.15731092 >>15731053 Yeah, we get it, you can't read a three page autopsy and it's impossible to be choked to death.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:15:44 2020 No.15731097 >>15731086 and you can't accept basic facts about reality lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:15:44 2020 No.15731098 >>15731082 Go on and move the goalposts bit by bit every time you reply to someone, that's how you know you're REALLY gonna win :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:15:45 2020 No.15731099 File: 249 KB, 600x875, Bertolt-Brecht.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15731061 But the politicization of aesthetics is A-okay.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:15:54 2020 No.15731100

>>15731080
Stalinists were at least Fascist adjacent in a number of ways. Obviously Nazis aren't technically Fascists in the historical sense, but they too were at the very least Fascist adjacent. The image that has you so booty blasted is rightly making light of this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:16:46 2020 No.15731105 >>15731087 Yeah that's what I said

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:16:51 2020 No.15731108 >>15731097 This is usually where you start talking about ancient egyptians being white

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:17:15 2020 No.15731110 >>15731108 every black city

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:17:47 2020 No.15731116 >>15731100 bro just take a political science class and the dictionary is free

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:18:24 2020 No.15731121

>>15731098
You were talking about human rights and equality, and that's what I addressed. What confused you to think I moved the goal posts? The word "duties"? Rights imply duty. If you have a right to life and liberty, I have a duty to not beat you up and take your shit.

What goal posts were moved? And why was it unjustified? You got nothing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:19:22 2020 No.15731126 >>15731097 >facts >reality But I thought you mystical nutjobs didn't operate in these realms. So which one is it? Are you "esoteric" or "objectively scientific"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:19:32 2020 No.15731128 >>15731116 I have taken political science classes in the past, and none of what I said there was wrong.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:19:35 2020 No.15731131

>>15731108
Not him, but several Pharaohs had red hair and by contemporary Western standards most black areas are shitholes. Just because you don't have the ability to go "well, I suppose that's black culture and biology I guess it works for them" doesn't mean someone who won't bullshit you did something wrong.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:21:14 2020 No.15731136

The progress of liberalism has been a disaster for mankind.

If we look at state of social institutions in the West that were subject to the ’60s social revolution we find Evola’s analysis vindicated. The family has collapsed, drug abuse (legal and illegal) is common, abortion legal, pornography commonplace, alcoholism unexceptional, overwork required, mindless consumerism venerated, and eating disorders almost required — a thousand pathologies blossom.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:21:15 2020 No.15731137 >>15731110 All the "black" cities in the world might as well be literal houses made out of human shit with a GDP per capita of -$300000, and yet they still rightfully deserve human rights and equality. Deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:22:47 2020 No.15731149 >>15730512 Given how many non-whites pose as whites the actual white crime rate is even lower. >>15730502 You should call this post "Tragedy and Cope".

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:23:27 2020 No.15731157

>>15731136
>The family has collapsed, drug abuse (legal and illegal) is common, abortion legal, pornography commonplace, alcoholism unexceptional, overwork required, mindless consumerism venerated, and eating disorders almost required
It's funny. I'm a piece of shit leftie and yet most of the issues dropped here are genuine problems that I'd love to address. We have much more in common than with liberals and the status quo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:23:54 2020 No.15731159 >>15731137 >equality. if you mean equal opportunity yeah, not equal outcome

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:25:42 2020 No.15731167

>>15731137
The liberal assumption goes beyond human dignity, it expects equal performance, otherwise the implication is that blacks are lazier, dumber, or just less capable than other races.

If all liberalism assumed was 'human dignity' they wouldn't be desperately trying to raise blacks up and give them affirmitive action. They wouldn't see systemic racism everywhere and use it as a scapegoat to explain black criminality or underperformance.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:25:44 2020 No.15731169

>>15730292
Fascism transcends left and right. It is the third position. Commies are just seething that people can be anti-calitalist and anti-communist simultaneously. They are enraged they don’t have a monopoly on anti-capitalism and that’s why they try to convince people that fascism is far right.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:25:53 2020 No.15731170

>>15731131
Yeah, ghettoes filled with some undesirable and impovrished minority are typically shitholes. Been true for thousands of years. In recent memory, chinese gang violence and turf wars during the initial settlement of california.
It's easy enough to recreate with whites, from the trailer park to the entirety of eastern europe, but I don't see you scrambling for the biological explanation there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:26:49 2020 No.15731175 >>15730337 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHSHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:26:58 2020 No.15731178 File: 11 KB, 226x223, 1573486062859.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15731169 >Fascism transcends left and right. It is the third position Oh no no no no

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:27:18 2020 No.15731179 >>15731167 I fucking hate liberals and their dishonest policies so I think I'll just agree with you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:28:02 2020 No.15731182 >>15731170 Holy fuck, is this what schizophrenia looks like?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:28:02 2020 No.15731183 >>15731169 Fascism is about being desperate for a dad and a wife, in that order. Everything else is filler

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:28:24 2020 No.15731184

I like how it's white people arguing with white people over black statistics and their group issues, while majority of blacks are busy plotting their next crime, getting high, giving themselves brain-damage, butchering the english language, abandoning their kids and obsessing over nikes.

Lmao what a fucken clown world

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:29:43 2020 No.15731191 >>15731080 dilate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:30:15 2020 No.15731193 >>15731184 This

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:30:23 2020 No.15731194 It was a much better time when nazis didn't pretend to be interested in literature.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:30:45 2020 No.15731202 >>15731183 I have a great dad and a wife material gf though.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:31:34 2020 No.15731204

>>15731169
>Fascism transcends left and right. It is the third position
Yeah fascism is so fucking transcendental with its warmongering, pro-traditional, pro-patriarchal values, ultranationalism and corporatism; absolutely fucking transcends the left-right dichotomy, you stupid fucking cunt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:32:01 2020 No.15731207 >>15731194 99% of all great literature was created by what the modern left considers, evil, patriarchal, nazi, cis, men. Just cope with it darling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:32:09 2020 No.15731208 >>15731202 No you don't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:32:35 2020 No.15731211 >>15731184 >>15731193 samefag

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:32:42 2020 No.15731212 >>15731208 >nooo everyone is as pathetic as i am lol you faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:33:07 2020 No.15731215 File: 184 KB, 709x709, 68F9C6DF-57CB-402E-AA28-DA0DA549C652.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >250 posts >40 posters

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:33:37 2020 No.15731218 >>15731184 >>15731207 bro get better bait seriously

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:33:54 2020 No.15731220 >>15731208 That guy who was the leader of IDENTITY EVRUOPA had a p hot gf, and a nice suv provided by his dad, so it could be true. He was also really short.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:34:17 2020 No.15731223 File: 60 KB, 828x171, 7CDE279C-0029-4CBE-8277-46F9BAF779BB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15731208 I can’t believe you are someone’s kid, I bet they feel embarrassed being around you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:34:57 2020 No.15731227 >>15731204 >if I don’t mention the parts of fascism that coincide with left wing beliefs I will win the argument

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:35:05 2020 No.15731228 >>15731207 t. late-to-the-party borderline autistic milo yiannopolous larper

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:35:33 2020 No.15731230 File: 21 KB, 522x171, 305C709D-D8CC-45CD-9CF2-DC635494EB28.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15731211 Dumb fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:36:00 2020 No.15731234 >>15731218 Everything he said was true, tranny.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:36:19 2020 No.15731237 >>15731184 The absolute state of white people

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:36:23 2020 No.15731240 >>15731228 lol youre just made because all the writers you like will inevitably be cancelled by your insane cult

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:36:30 2020 No.15731241 >>15731212 Well, you are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:37:38 2020 No.15731249 File: 241 KB, 828x692, FCDF63F5-FEC0-4CF9-A492-16B07C1497B0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuck liberals.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:37:52 2020 No.15731252 >>15731240 Wow, that would be very deliciously ironic, darling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:37:52 2020 No.15731253 >>15731234 Sure it was, schizo.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:38:27 2020 No.15731257

>>15731204
>pro-traditional, pro-patriarchal values
yes.

>warmongering, ultranationalism and corporatism; absolutely fucking transcends the left-right dichotomy,
The bourgeois did away with the aristocracy, patriarchal and traditional values, the bourgeois championed democracy and liberalism (which are movements toward communism, away from traditionalism).

Margaret Thatcher and Vladimir Lenin are two parts in the same dialectical movement — both revolutionary egalitarians [of different sorts], both determined to uproot and destroy long-standing traditions. The tools — Marxian socialism and neo-liberalism — differ, but the movement is the same. If you look at the Left and Right in America or Europe, the same movement is occur.

But actual marxism is not really possible, because the proletariat have become bourgeois, the proletariat want an iPad – and they want it last week.

Fascism is still the most revolutionary side you can take these days, given the movement towards "progress" (degeneracy) although it needs to be nuanced. Calling it warmongering is myopic, every ideology has potential for war, especially liberalism (colonialists were all liberal humanists) and evenmoreso marxism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:39:01 2020 No.15731260 >>15731227 >bro trust me this ultranationalist, non-emancipated and traditional esoteric corporatist society totally has some left wing parts bro trust me it totally transcends the political compass and shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:40:06 2020 No.15731268 >>15731257 >degeneracy Word has lost all its meaning.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:40:13 2020 No.15731272 >>15731253 >schizo Thank you for outing yourself as a /leftypol/ tourist faggot. Go listen to some chapo and dilate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:40:25 2020 No.15731274 >>15731184 White liberals are honestly retarted.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:40:53 2020 No.15731275 File: 92 KB, 960x796, animal.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15731268 of course in the kali yuga, in this dark age, degeneracy is the norm. People living in shit have lost their sense of smell.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:41:29 2020 No.15731281 >>15731268 He’s talking about you faggot, you and your porn hub and modernity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:41:34 2020 No.15731283 >>15731268 It has the same meaning it always had: anything I don't like.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:42:18 2020 No.15731290 >>15730270 Monky put the thing down pls

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:43:13 2020 No.15731296 >>15731184 >white peoples actually give a shit about the state of society Wow, who would have thought?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:43:22 2020 No.15731297 >>15731272 Okay caricature, if you try real hard you'll transform me into a strawman

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:44:23 2020 No.15731306 >>15731281 I'm a postmodernist and I'm against pornography. You esoteric fashy fucks are the ones that are modernist, you do realise that, don't you?

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:45:51 2020 No.15731320

>>15731306
>I'm a postmodernist and I'm against pornography.
What's the reasoning here? Something something women objectified for the male gaze?

>You esoteric fashy fucks are the ones that are modernist, you do realise that, don't you?
Explain this you special little snowflake.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:46:17 2020 No.15731323 >>15731306 >Subjectivism Pretty degenerate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:47:53 2020 No.15731334 Good thread OP, I cross posted it to /pol/ >>>/pol/265442721

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:51:23 2020 No.15731352
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>>15730246
Nice bait.
Fascism is rules of nature. The best should rule, and the ones there by chance are an inconvenience decided by fate that are being fought.
Only you yourself can tell if you deserve to rule, and if you think so you will start a party and let fate decide whether your superiority will be accomodated.
This is the only ideology that can stop the subhuman marxists, and that's the whole point of the ideology. Marxism is an entity that desires to take over through hollow promises, and the common man is too retarded to realize it. Letting him vote means giving a fork to a toddler in front of an electrical outlet.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:51:30 2020 No.15731353

>>15731170
>I cite culture and biology
>you zero in on biology
Your stance is a fanatical anti-biologist stance. Mine is a combination of non-genetic and genetic causes.
Also I absolutely don't rule out biological components for Eastern Europe (for example: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c1/2f/84/c12f840124e9f45737b4653bdcb04658.jpg).). With that said, you're far less likely to get mugged in the majority of Eastern Europe than in a black city or country. And yes, Slavs have a more vicious Asiatic streak in them than Germanics. Sorry not sorry.
I'm not a monocausalist for genetics. Your position is the extreme, ideological, reality avoidant position.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:52:34 2020 No.15731363 File: 208 KB, 327x316, 2ec.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15730401 >brainlet thinks hitting the will of a people will make it weaker instead of stronger

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:54:06 2020 No.15731375 File: 680 KB, 828x792, 8EFED37B-A50E-4757-A336-26D4A7F62ABE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15731306 >>15731334 Damn, /pol/ is spitting facts though.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:54:40 2020 No.15731384

>>15730305
I've found the same thing consistently. They always go on about the grandness of their culture and heritage, but without fail will have a middlebrow understanding of everything they engage in, the vague sense of patriotic feeling they associate with the great works they consider part of their cultural capital is the extent of their engagemnt.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:57:14 2020 No.15731399
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>>15731334
NOOOOOOOO, NOT THERE, I DON'T WANT TO ACTUALLY DISCUSS THE TOPIC WITH PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN IT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE FUN OF MY FANTASY ABOUT THEM TO FEEL SUPERIOR!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:58:08 2020 No.15731406 >>15731384 no you haven't lol, you were just told this is how they are and you repeat it like the mindless worm you are

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:59:36 2020 No.15731414 >>15730455 >Fascism, folks! Who are these "folks" you're talking to? You're anonymous and alone as is everyone else, retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:00:52 2020 No.15731425 >>15731375 big brain /pol/ takes based

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:01:33 2020 No.15731431

>>15731384
>They always go on about the grandness of their culture and heritage,
Do we?
Cause I've spent probably hundreds of hours listening to these people and they don't have rose tinted glasses about us (white people).
There's a difference between love for your people and narcissism, and it sounds like you haven't listened to actualfa.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:02:47 2020 No.15731446 >>15731178 Well, I mean, it literally does and is though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:03:49 2020 No.15731451 >>15731306 I'm a postmodernism and I support self-proclaimed fascist as they're generally not actual 20th century fascists but something altogether different and new.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:05:19 2020 No.15731457 >>15731446 Oh hoo no no no oh no look at this dude... wait til you hear th- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:06:34 2020 No.15731468 >>15731384 Does communism turn people into liars or are liars just naturally drawn to it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:07:01 2020 No.15731473 >>15730459 >I'd be fine with fascism as long as it's women ruling over men Woman's suffrage was one of the main goals of the fascists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:07:01 2020 No.15731474 >>15730617 >Meanwhile everytime anything bad happens to whites it gets a 24/7 coverage Nigga...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:07:55 2020 No.15731482 >>15730532 >We don’t know I think we know enough faggot.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:09:27 2020 No.15731493

>>15730532
The left finally found a meme format suited to wall of text, but their walls of text are still illogical, ideologically based nonsense that anyone with a flicker of critical thought or a moment's reflection on personal experiences can see through.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:09:33 2020 No.15731494 >>15730617 What fucking universe are you living in?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:10:29 2020 No.15731500 >>15730510 >the bizarre way that they treat them as children with no agency, while also being terrified of saying anything offensive This makes me cringe and I feel bad for the PoC even though I'm a white nationalist.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:10:44 2020 No.15731503
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>>15731457
Is your mind imploding at this thought? Is it too hard to imagine an entity that is neither A or B and doesn't fit into your simplistic view of the world? You must have sucked at these as a kid

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:10:48 2020 No.15731504 >>15731474 >>Meanwhile everytime anything bad happens to whites it gets a 24/7 coverage That has to be bait.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:11:59 2020 No.15731510 >>15731503 It's just sad to fall for 90 year old propaganda and believe fascsists don't bend the knee to capital. Just point and laugh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:12:36 2020 No.15731515 >>15730588 What a cope!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:13:36 2020 No.15731521 I'm enjoying the recent tranny invasion because these people are incompetent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:14:20 2020 No.15731528 This thread confirms the left and rights bullshit has eradicated peoples brain cells, we need to stop this labeling and strawmaning if we are ever going think critically, not ideologically.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:15:54 2020 No.15731537 >>15731510 It's old so it's bad? It had propaganda so it's bad? Damn anon, I think you're a genius at logic, can you be my teacher?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:16:28 2020 No.15731539 >>15731030 midwit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:17:39 2020 No.15731542 >>15730377 >there are institutions researching and collecting DATA to confirm dialectical materialism OH NONONONONONO HAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:19:12 2020 No.15731549 >>15731080 It's a brainlet take only because the Nazis were good, and the Communists were not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:20:06 2020 No.15731559 >>15731537 It's old and is very easily debunked by just looking at the facts of what happened and you still fall for it because you felt cool reading an epic underground dark enlightenment secret esoteric imageboard online. Many such cases

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:22:54 2020 No.15731572 >>15731559 >I beat you at the park, so my theory that 2+2=5 had been proven correct and yours has been debunked. Truly the intellectual of our times

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:25:10 2020 No.15731579 >>15731559 Whereas the communist drivel on the internet is A-OK.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:26:34 2020 No.15731588 >>15731572 >"We will do this" >They don't to it, infact they do a completely different thing And you still believe they will do "this" We have an academic in our midst >>15731579 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:26:55 2020 No.15731590 >>15731559 Sorry sweetie that was not real fascism

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:27:38 2020 No.15731595 >>15730292 The Politics understander has logged on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:28:31 2020 No.15731599 >>15730246 This whole thread is pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:28:49 2020 No.15731600 >>15730337 "Real academic concept" is nonsense. Every political movement has its academics that support it and believe in the concepts it relies on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:30:56 2020 No.15731619 >>15731600 You should build an understanding of what academia is. Fascist """theorists""" are occultists, poets and cringelords.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:32:39 2020 No.15731626 >>15731588 Damn where was I when they claimed that a bullet shot by a fascist is stronger than two bullets shot by two communists from inside an american tank? I must have missed that speech

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:35:22 2020 No.15731651

Funny how our resident /pol/ friends will do nothing but bitch and moan all day about how oppressed and unfairly censored they are while the mods delete posts that are just a little too critical of /pol/ for their liking. This site is absolutely fucked. 2016 was a mistake.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:37:00 2020 No.15731657
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>>15730337
> Except institutional racism and dialectical materialism are real academic concepts that are observable and tied to reality. Even if you don’t find them particularly compelling they do form the base for a coherent belief system, unlike the magical babble that you find in fascism

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:43:56 2020 No.15731692 >>15731651 >a website where the most controversial post gets the most likes and visibility is unfair to controversial opinions ok

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:50:32 2020 No.15731713 >>15730783 Good post anon. Sadly the good posts often don't get any feedback but don't let discourage you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:51:57 2020 No.15731723 >>15731692 Nice schizo response.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:59:02 2020 No.15731754 >>15731723 Go ahead and make your critical post anon, we'll see together how long it will last before being deleted

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 11:10:15 2020 No.15731812 >>15730783 >12. An imperialist foreign policy. Nah.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 11:30:39 2020 No.15731915 >>15731559 >It's old and is very easily debunked What has been debunked?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 11:40:53 2020 No.15731955 File: 652 KB, 600x600, 001.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15731334 >The thread is more civil on r/pol than on /lit/

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 12:31:50 2020 No.15732239

>>15731065
not the guy you were arguing with, but fascists believe that human purpose can't be materially defined and is scientifically elusive (so they step into spiritual, esoteric, aesthetic territory), it's not like fascists are amish who aren't allowed to use technology (like a scientific paper) under any circumstances.

You can at once believe that the human condition is chaotic and unpredictable, and also that the observations we make about nature (such as our biology) motivate and guide those actions. In this case, there's no visible evidence for racial equality and profound evidence against it.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 12:50:34 2020 No.15732358

>>15730246
Old school stuff about class collaboration instead of class warfare and organizing the country along corprotist lines, or even organizing the whole country into unions a la Mosley has some material sort of arguments.

But if you're looking for a strictly materialist (eg marxist) justification, then you won't get one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 12:53:58 2020 No.15732380 >>15730415 This is a baseless assertion, with no evidence or citation provided.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 13:13:30 2020 No.15732518

>>15730502
It's only 50% of the murders really, but in any event, why is it that the crime rates of the UCR always match the victimization rates on the National Victimization Survey? Are you really going to assert that the 90% black victims of black crime are actually lying on the surveys and blaming crime on blacks that is actually done by whites? Are they all racist against themselves? It's an absurd. This is the level of cope you must resort to if you want to deny basic crime facts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 13:17:38 2020 No.15732550 >>15730685 >>15730722 You're being trolled, you retards. How can't you figure that out?

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