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How do I escape the decline of western society if I'm a poorfag?

>> No.15707614

>>15707601
You can't, you chose to be born in this time in this body.

>> No.15707628

>>15707601
I was expecting to read about parents raising a transexual kid (against his/her will), but this is worse.

>> No.15707629

>>15707601
Bait

>> No.15707639

>>15707601
That parenting approach actually doesnt seem that bad to me, as long as it doesnt turn into every man must needing to be a soiboi (which if I was a betting man I could see this family doing that) than I say its just an alternative to any other childhood belief like Santa or the toothfairy

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>>15707601
Do westerners REALLY?!?!

>> No.15707723

Nothing, you can only try to live your life the right way

>> No.15707736

>>15707601
>if I'm a poorfag
You don’t.

>> No.15707740

>>15707601
You go down with the ship

>> No.15707763

>>15707601
>We're looking for more ideas on how to traumatize our daughter.
>She has processed many difficult subjects like racism, climate change and even the Coronavirus (capitalized?)
>Before other parents judge or lecture :We know it's outright abuse, but...

Never let a woman steer the household. This guy has subjected himself to a woman, and that is absolutely clear.

>> No.15707793

>>15707736
>>15707740
It really was over before it began, wasn't it
Supposed to put up with 40+ more years of this shit man, fucking hell
All I want is my own house and enough land to grow my own food

>> No.15707797

>>15707793
Buy Chainlink

>> No.15707808

>>15707601
bootstraps

>> No.15707811

>>15707793
WW1 was the final curtain, and WW2 was the encore

>> No.15707813

>>15707601
I was a teacher. There are so many problems with this. This is not how children become well adjusted. They're trying to draw a false equivalency with western canon, which is largely comprised of fables and morals designed to guide ethical thinking in young people. The idea of 'this will build critical thinking' is absolutely delusional, if their kid has any semblance of smarts, they'll be fucking furious at being literally knowingly lied to throughout their entire childhood.

There comes a point where children need to learn where the divide between reality and fiction comes in, and this is a purposeful neutering.

Also fuck off Tomoko.

>> No.15707826

>>15707813
What do you think about C.S. Lewis The Abolition of Man? To me its one of the most underrated books about childhood education.

>> No.15707914

>>15707826
I have never read it. I do like CS Lewis. I should really read his works cover to cover, but there are never enough hours in the day, and my eyes tire quickly.

>> No.15707923

>>15707601
Kys Tomokofag

>> No.15708284

>>15707797
Been trying for the past hour and all this automated ID check bullshit and asking for a verification code that takes longer to come theough than it's valid for on every goddamn exchange reminds me why I stopped fucking with crypto years ago. It looks like a good investment atm, can't deny it, but fuck this yuppie start-up horseshit.

>> No.15708315

Great they’re raising a transphobe.

>> No.15708339

>>15707601
Polytechnique every white liberal woman you see.

>> No.15708343

>>15707614
Based and Plotinuspilled

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>>15707614
>>15708343
wait really?? please explain, enlighten my poorfaggish mind.

>> No.15708376

>>15707639
go back

>> No.15708426

>>15707601
>grows up and realizes all that wizard stuff was bullshit
>racism, climate change, and the coronavirus are all tied to this fairy tale
>grows up disbelieving in racism, climate change, and the coronavirus
>becomes a paranoid conspiracy theorist who can't tell reality from fantasy
Kek. Good work goys!

>> No.15708537

>>15707601
poorfags might be able to cut it in Eastern Europe, but I'm gunning for Singapore or Japan

>> No.15708554

>>15707601
They're right about one thing. What they're doing is still less damaging than bringing them up to believe in a religion.

>> No.15708604

>>15708537
Based Japan chad, taking us whittu piggus is the least they could do after that plane shit.

>> No.15708663

>>15707601
You may want to try Eastern Europe, Russia or one of its satellite countries.

>> No.15708693

>>15708537
>>15708663
>Just move to another country lol

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>>15707601

>> No.15708728

>>15707639
Santa and the tooth fairy are disconnected from the child's own identity

>> No.15708753

>>15708693
Found the jealous American

>> No.15708774

>>15708753
Jealous britbong actually

>> No.15708776

>>15707601
I’m poor and several thousand dollars in college debt but I am surely hoping that I can get accepted into a university in Eastern Europe or Central Asia and make my life there. I’m not picky, and I am content being poor. But no country wants filthy Americans and I don’t blame them. Plus I’m broke, so I have to do something to make myself marketable.
My ultimate dream is probably Iceland but that is probably the most difficult on my list. I’m just going to shit out applications abroad once I graduate in a few months.
I hate thinking about leaving my family behind but we are all poor and someone has to try and start a life somewhere else.

>> No.15708995

>>15708776
Good luck fren
I hope for the best

>> No.15709037

>>15708995
Likewise. What are your aspirations (for before the collapse)?

>> No.15709075

>>15708776
how do you get into uni again after you already have student debt? i fucked myself with a shitty major, already graduated but can't get a decent job. kinda want to go back to uni, but i can't even support myself unless i work fulltime or take on even more debt. seems impossible.

>> No.15709111

>>15707614
No anon, OP is special because he was born into this world

>> No.15709166

>>15709075
If you are poor, the federal government provide loans up to something like $130k for a graduate degree (undergrad degree is allowed like $40k). I’ll be sitting pretty at $20-25k all said and done.
But my personal plan is to study abroad. Universities elsewhere are much cheaper and I am hoping that if I can find a desperate enough country/university, they will pay for my education.

>> No.15709461

>>15707601
Calling bullshit on that reddit post. Just did a search of some phrases from the post on r/harrypotter, and no post like this comes up. unless you're gonna provide the title or a link, I'll consider you a dirty liar OP

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>>15708716

>> No.15709653
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>reading the posts in this thread as a Balkanoid shitter
A shame I'm an urbanite so likely doomed but damn is this something. Hope you boys primarily mean Russia and its neighbours when you say Eastern Europe otherwise God have mercy.

>> No.15709737

>>15709461
Probably deleted due to backlash if it's a few days old, happens regularly when these things go viral

>> No.15709818

>>15709653
what's wrong with balkans?

>> No.15709865 [DELETED] 

tomoko really is a cute character
it is a shame, the extent to which she is appropriated by incel faggots like OP.
we both know you are gonna kill yourself at some point so why not just get it over with

>> No.15709881

>>15707601
You escape through your willingness to fight

>> No.15709894

>>15709653
Yes. My list right now looks like this (there is no strong ranking, except for Iceland which is a dream): Iceland, Russia, Latvia, Lithuania, Mongolia, Belarus, Ukraine. I have also thought about thinking about India/Nepal/Thailand and China/Japan as well. The truth is I want a white(r) country than the USA, don’t mind being poor, and want to speak a cool language. I am learning Russian right now so I am naturally leaning towards places that speak Russian or something close

>> No.15710171

>>15707628
No, it'd only be worse if they kept feeding the child LSD so they would have magical experiences.

>>15708284
Don't buy /biz/ memecoins.

>> No.15710210

>>15707601
That child is going to grow up to hate her parents and everything that is related to HP, magic, and the occult. The backlash will be so great that she will likely become an ultra conservative trad wife, believe the Crusades, the Inquisitions, and the witch trials were the height of Christianity, and may become a serial killer that kidnaps fags, heretics, neopagans, Wiccans, and occult larpers and subject them to deaths by drowning or immolation.

>> No.15710307

>>15710210
>tfw no this post gf

>> No.15710320

>>15707601
>two retards take something too seriously
>”END OF TEH WEST!!!!”
God why is everything so fucking apocalyptic to you faggots. Sounds exhausting.

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>>15707601

>> No.15710397

>>15708776
Germany/Austria and a few other other European countries don't really make you pay for university, mostly laughable administrative costs, so the thing you should look at is the cost of living, which depends heavily on where you go and what you are willing to put up with in terms of housing.
Godspeed anon.

>> No.15710424

>>15709075
one word: europe

>> No.15710431

>>15707797
This.

>> No.15710445

>>15710320
America is a death spiral, it probably won't even make it to 2050.

>> No.15710449

>>15708554
Seriously? You realize people actually believe in religion, right? The parents are literally creating a web of lies around their kid, and they don't have a problem with it! You don't see how degenerate that is?

>> No.15710462

>>15707601

Okay but how is this any different than tricking kids into believing Santa is real
Most kids these days already know Santa isn't real once they can read basically and it's a bit sad
There's nothing wrong with letting kids live in a nice illusion that the world isn't completely awful for a while before it's violently ripped away from them and if we have to start getting more creative and elaborate than a fat red present guy to do it than so be it

>> No.15710464

>criticize a black person
>they pull the racist card
>criticize a woman
>they pull the misogynist card
>criticize a white person
>they pull the toxic card
>criticize society
>they pull the incel card
>criticize a 4channer
>they pull the tranny card

it's all so tiresome

>> No.15710489

>>15707813
The saddest part is the false promise:
>Don't worry, just do good at school and you'll go to Hogwarts and learn magic!
Like, when do they think she'll realize the truth? 19? 25? I'm a substitute teacher. It's more like 12, 13 at the latest.
Imagine that, right in the middle of your school life, you suddenly learn all at once that:
>Doing good at school won't get you to Hogwarts
>Nothing will get you to Hogwarts, in fact, because there is no Hogwarts
>You will never, ever, learn magic either, because magic doesn't exist
>Your parents are liars
>Your parents are VERY good liars, who can concoct lie upon lie upon lie, a leaning tower of lies built upon a foundation of falsehoods, rooted into a bed of shams, with fake roots extending all the way down to the misleading core of the untrue Earth
>They can, and more importantly, WILL, lie to you about anything. ANYTHING. How am I? What is my real name? Is everyone lying? Is it normal to live a literal life of lies? What is healthy? What is socially acceptable? Are the police real? Is racism actually bad? Why bother learning anything at all? Why bother living? Are you my real parents or impostors? What did you do with my real parents? What the fuck did you do to them you sick fucks? Where are the god damn bodies I'm not fucking around I will shoot both of you where you stand if you don't come clean?
And other lovely revelations.
They are building a fucking monster. This girl WILL murder them, mark my words. She won't be able to become a witch, but she will become just as powerful. Avada fucking Kedavra you twisted products of a fucking corporate nightmare world. And you know she's taking herself out right after.

>> No.15710555

If you are a poorfag, you will suffer in any declining/ascending western/eastern society/loneliness.

>> No.15710561

>>15708339
>polytechnique
Took me a while, since polytechnique is a god-tier college where I live, but I got it.

>> No.15710589

>>15710464
It's all become a game of saving face.
>Put your best face forward! Look and sound like the best person around, by any means necessary, and you win freedom and acceptance! But don't get caught, or you face thorough and complete identity annihilation, and even lose your freedoms and rights!
>*buzzer sound*
>Aww, man!
>Ha~ha, I found a forum post you made from 20 years ago! You lost your livelihood and everything and everyone you ever cared about! Now even homeless people spit at you!
>But... y-you're my brother, my flesh and blood, how could y-
>IT'S SAVING FACE! BUY YOURS TODAY!
>(saving face is a mandatory purchase and lifetime subscription. saving face may not be refunded, cancelled, or returned at any point in time. ages 1-120.)

>> No.15710590

>>15710489
Shell get it over it snowflake lmao

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>>15710462
Ha, not the same at all.
Santa is false: oh my parents were giving me all those presents, that's nice, if oddly devious.
I'm not a wizard but a muggle: my life is going to be at least a hundred times less special. Oh and my parents are devious and mean.

>>15707601
Dang OP how do you escape it even if you're rich?!

>> No.15710659

>>15707601
Imagine being inspired to do this by the dullest franchise in human history.

>> No.15710665

>>15710610
>Dianetics necessary to read HP
lol

>> No.15710688

>>15707601
I'm doing something similar with my daughter, but using The Handmaid's Tale instead of Harry Potter.

>> No.15710715

What’s the OP source?

>> No.15710719

Become a Buddhist monk. It's not easy, though.

>> No.15710765

>>15710462
Santa Claus is a completely separate entity from the child and doesn't effect the child's life in any way except for Christmas being a little less fantastic. These parents are telling her she is special and completely crafting her life and everything she believes in around this lie.

>> No.15710786

>>15710765
Nothing wrong with a bit of make-believe. Remove the stick from your ass, spoilsport.

>> No.15710822

>>15710786
>a little make believe
>has invented an entire geneaology to justify their wizard story
ye ok pal

>> No.15710824

>>15710765

I see the problem you seem to be under the impression that kids don't already do this on their own
Kids are stupid the line between allowing a kid to believe dumb things and "cultivating their creativity" is practically non existent
What you should really be concerned about is people who remain impressionable once they get older

>> No.15710831

>>15710822
Never place limits on a child's imagination.

>> No.15710917

>>15707601
Follow your nose to those who share the same aesthetic vision as you, then work for them.

>> No.15711051

>>15710659
>Well son, the fact is... your mother and I are... (should we tell him?) (Yes, it's time)... son, your mother and I are time lords.

>> No.15711358

>>15710831
>>15710824
Even very young children know the difference between make-believe and reality. Unless you lie an entire fake realty into existence for them.

>> No.15711359

>>15710210
she'll probably just become a drug addict tranny and kill herself before 18

>> No.15711573

>>15710489
just take out the hogwarts and it's not much different from being raised catholic

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>>15707601

>> No.15711698

>>15707639
>telling your kid he's special and better than others is the same as telling them fairies are real

>> No.15712072

this is basically religion; hilarious!

>> No.15712073

>>15710320
>it's just one example bro, it's not like the infantilization of consumerism has become a staple of our culture or anything

>> No.15712174

>>15707601
holy fuck

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>>15707704
>Thinking that Russia is in a better state than the west

https://translate.google.co.il/translate?sl=iw&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ynet.co.il%2Farticles%2F0%2C7340%2CL-4791619%2C00.html

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bump

>> No.15712312

>>15709461
https://www.removeddit.com/r/harrypotter/comments/hf2gep/raised_our_7_year_old_to_believe_she_is_a_witch/

>> No.15712337

>>15709461
Also if it's fake he's playing the long con: https://www.removeddit.com/r/Parenting/comments/tvmef/first_time_dad_about_to_bring_a_daughter_into/

>> No.15712364

>>15712192
What are the Klitschkos doing there?

>> No.15712385

>>15707601
Y'all have problems with this but have no problems with religious people raising their children to be also religious because it's "based" and "trad", fuck y'all lmao

>> No.15712394

>>15707601
>NOOOOO YOU MUST LIVE HOW I WANT YOU TO LIVE!!! CANT YOU SEE HOW MUCH YOUR PRIVATE LIFE MAKES ME SUFFER!!

In all seriousness, how old are you and have you thought about going to school for STEM, get capital, and then do whatever you want? Speaking from experience as a former poorfag.

>> No.15712409

>>15712394
This. Just get a small $400 million grant from your father and pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

>> No.15712436

>>15712409
If he’s in the US, financial aid will cover 80% to 100% of his tuition

>> No.15712980

fpbp>>15707614
>>15707614
>>15707614
>>15707614
>>15707614

>> No.15713047

>>15712364
They're jews.

>> No.15713058

>>15713047
nah jews are the least athletic people ever

>> No.15713432

>>15707614
>You can't, you chose to be born in this time in this body.
But I wanted to be a female assigned at birth.

>> No.15714003

>>15707601
go immigrate to saudi arabia

>> No.15714035

>>15707628
kek

>> No.15714247

>>15707601
By farting

>> No.15714248

>>15711573
the difference is that if you're raised catholic and eventually give up the faith, there is some comfort in knowing it was something your parents sincerely believed in and they wanted to raise you in accordance with what they believed was true

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>>15709111
Based?

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>>15709818
Nothing minus the corrupt government, the population being dumb as bricks exacerbated by the spread of American-style night life and consumerism, the inhuman work hours for physical labor that pays peanuts and a lot of butthurt with the neighbors. Mostly applies to where I'm from though, Slovenia and similar are likely better off. We've got some great medieval monasteries and some nice nature thankfully.
>>15709894
At least you've got a plan, treat yourself to some kvass when you manage to settle down somewhere

>> No.15714593

>>15709461
Pretty sure it was deleted either because OP realized it was embarrassing or the troll's ruse was exposed

>> No.15714644

>>15710589
Good post

>> No.15714657

>>15707601
>poorfag
you are responsible for the decline of western society

>> No.15714663

>>15712385
93 iq post

>> No.15714730

>>15710320
>one drug addicted nigger gets kneeled on and dies
>"ALL COPS IZ RAYCISS N SHIT BLACK GENOCIDE"

>> No.15714745

You’re amongst the ruins baby, learn to embrace it

>> No.15714758

>>15708663
Based, that's what I'm doing when the shit hits the fan. I'm not gonna be miserable for a country that has repeatedly acted against my interests.

>> No.15714761

>>15714248
>eventually give up the faith

That hasn't happened to me.

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>>15710688
Based department? Yes, I'd like to file a report.

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>>15712385
lol, exactly this.

>> No.15714932

>>15707797
He's 1 year too late unless he has half a million to invest.

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>>15707601
>How do I escape the decline of western society if I'm a poorfag?
Difficult, since the world is so interconnected and information can be transferred in an instant.
My goal is living the libertarian dream: homesteading, homeschooling in a rural area. You need to have full control over the media that you are seeing.
Limiting your internet access, adding filterlists to your router, having no cable tv, no radio, listen to CDs, etc.
You will find more similar minded people outside of the cities and outside of the suburbs.
It's more diffciult in the cities, since you don't have glasses where you can download uBlock Origin to remove all the ads you see. Besides there is not a lot left to do in cities besides media consumption and working. You will be reminded all the time of the decline of the west, the archtitecture (new and old), theatre plays, movies, radio, clothing, the language the people are using, tourists, drug abuse, immigration, obsession with consumption.
Either way I don't think, that money is the primary limiting factor. I mean if you live in the USA or in Canada just get a firewatch tower job or something like that. If you live in a crowded country that doesn't offer you living in a area with low population density then you will have to migrate which is shit as well.

>> No.15715646

>>15710462
Big difference, this is some Indigo Children shit whereas Santa Claus is real

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>>15711573
Precisely. Christoids are seething in this thread because they know deep down in their hearts that their faith is as made up and contrived as the stuff in OP

>> No.15715693

>>15711573
Except there's something to be gained from being religious, raising your kid to think magic is real is going to do literally nothing for them.

>> No.15715701

>>15707601
>if im a poorfag
You are literally free from the decline of Western society, dork. The decadence exists within the faux bourgeoisie whose spirit we are consuming with consumerism and the elites that have been fundamentally detached from humanity since always as they are forcing themselves to bend knee to populist demands in order to stay elite.
You, being poor, can simply decide to stop participating. You lose nothing by doing this. You are literally free of the system.

>> No.15716517

>>15715701
Except for spending 10+hrs a day working so that I can give over 80% of my income to my landlord for the tiny £500 p/m attic bedsit I rent, because the average rent in my region of the UK is £768 p/m for one bedroom
I'm not even allowed to hang a painting or put up a shelf

>> No.15716592

>>15711607
>wanting neighbours
Fuck off you stupid bitch

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>>15707601
You always align with the class you're in and wait from the offer from the higher ranks - preferably from the better-placed members of a higher caste.

There's nothing else to it. You look for your own interests - you don't align with niggers because you're not a nigger. If you're a Jew, Zionists are your friends. If you're white, figure out what kind and try to use it for your gain. As an individual without monetary means, you have no freedom of choice and you have to participate in the society and its turmoils to an extent.

t. a Slav desperate to become a low to mid level corporate drone in any country of Western Europe, preferably one where the niggers and shitskins and muslims aren't THAT present.

>> No.15716654

>>15715701
The opposite. The poor are trapped more than anyone as they must work to pay the taxes necessary to legally exist and simultaneously have no power or advocates to preserve their interests.

>> No.15716830

>>15707628
>I was expecting to read about parents raising a transexual kid
Considering they mention wizards and witches in the very first sentence, no you weren't.

>> No.15716835

>>15710489
>Like,
stopped reading there

>> No.15716866

>>15716830
he's obviously talking about the period of time after when he first read the body of the actual OP and before he clicked on the thumbnail.

>> No.15716957

>>15708360
You can leave at any time.

>> No.15717011

>>15716628
Why would you come here? It's plain to see that Western Europe is in steep decline.

>> No.15717042

>>15707601
>>15707639
>>15707628
>>15707763
>>15707813
>>15708426
I was raised very similar. Not with harry potter though but actual witches. It's not as bad as you think

>> No.15717642

>>15717042
Dude that's great! Who asked though?

>> No.15718742

>>15717042
me too. except they called him jesus christ instead of harry potter

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>>15707601
BE THAT ROMAN LEGIONARY AT VESUVIUS
OUR DUTY IS TO HOLD ONTO THE LOST POSITION
THAT IS GREATNESS

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>>15718742

>> No.15718809

>>15707704
*americans from the usa

>> No.15718873

>>15718807
reddit tier response

>> No.15718886

>>15718873
>implying >>15718742 wasn't reddit tier

>> No.15718894

>>15718886
>implying redditors don't hate /r/atheism because they're mean (white) doody heads

>> No.15718910

>>15718894
>implying r/atheism isn't at the heart of reddit

>> No.15718920

>>15718910
>thinks it's 2013
outspoken atheists are always called edgelords and are considered misogynist islamophobes these days

>> No.15718937

>>15718920
That's only if they attack any religion that isn't Christianity. These faggots go around crying about muh ebil jesus book all day long and pat each other on the back for it.

>> No.15718961

>>15718937
sure kid, whatever you say

>> No.15718970
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>>15718961
>sure kid

>> No.15718983

>>15718970
>posting wojaks
Thanks for confirming your underageness and retardation.