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When did you realize you were a midwit hack? Happened a couple of minutes ago for me.

>> No.15675445

>>15675438
I never cared to begin with. Intelligence is a cope, might makes right.

>> No.15675565

>>15675438
Never happened to me. I've coasted off my entire life (from elementary school to graduate school) being told I'm the smartest kid by my family, teachers/professors, friends, and classmates

>> No.15675572 [DELETED] 

>>15675565
You should move out of your cowtown and try a world tier city then.

>> No.15675577

>>15675438
When I was 15 and started reading books. I'm worse than a midwit; I'm a halfwit.

>> No.15675623

I went through a phase in high school/college, but eventually I embraced my true nature. I love mainstream books, music, films, and I love writing romance and genre fiction that entertains me. I've come to accept that it's just who I am. It's liberating to embrace some of your flaws.

>> No.15675653

>>15675438
when i was 14
teacher told me i was dumb, i didn't believe her because a granny told me i was smart like an encyclopedia, turns out, i was indeed dumb
but i'm not a midwit, i'm full brainlet

>> No.15675657

>>15675438
when i realized i enjoyed more reading philosophy than understanding it

>> No.15675663

>>15675577
It's not quanity of wits but the quality of them.

>> No.15675680

>>15675565
did you had good grades? i always had bad bad bad grades because i was too much invested in wondering if i should die or not (i should have)

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>>15675438
Almost immediately after I gained conscious thought

>> No.15675765

Never because I'm not. I'm a genius. Brilliance is more blessing than curse.

>> No.15676258

>>15675438
Part way through high school. Mid-twenties, lucky to have just one job that kinda sucks but with good coworkers and a good boss. It pays the bills and not too much else, roof over my head, food on my plate, no debt. Didn't finish college, don't really plan to at this point in my life; I'm learning to come to terms with the state of variable definitions of success and happiness

>> No.15676280

>>15675438
What happened a few minutes ago OP?

>> No.15676306

yes but now I go on gutenbergpick 3-5 random stories get their central themes or whatever and try to make a cohesive narrative from it and first it was more of a personal challenge but people seem to like it when they read it

>> No.15676392

started reading Shakespeare again and realized i wasn't as good with old English as i thought i would be. still enjoying myself though so far

>> No.15676412

>>15675438
People presume since I'm good at taking tests and have a wide vocabulary that I'm smart, but it isn't really so. In practice, I feel I'm miles behind my coworkers in technical skill.

>> No.15676427

around highschool i realized that people who think less tend to be more happy. so i stopped thinking

>> No.15676428

>>15676412
I know this feel. I try to be honest with others regarding my actual abilities, but they assume either im humble, engaging in false modesty or that I have imposter syndrome.

>> No.15676443

>>15676427
dont go down that path anon, its a hollow "happiness" that quit often bears bitter fruit. the real happiness comes from the satisfaction and fulfillment of doing better

>> No.15676445

>>15676427
>mfw i feel sad and i'm dumb

>> No.15676594

>>15676427
please be bait

>> No.15676599
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15676599

I feel like an intellectual fraud all the time.

>> No.15676657

When i finally accepted that I'm terrible at expressing my thoughts clearly when having an in person discussion. I can never back up my points either. I liked to think I was smart but now I am more humble. I realize it takes me more time to come up with these thoughts or talking points so I just slow down. I think I'm much happier now though. I just have to work a little harder to get to the same level of competency. Wew I guess I'm kind of a scatterbrain too

>> No.15676663

>>15676599
Same, but the people I associate with seem to think otherwise. It's a pretty confusing issue.

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>>15675565
Except midwits resent intelligent people and never give them compliments.

>> No.15676803

>>15675438
always known, i'm working on reading more intellectually challenging books right now and i hope to eventually not be a midwit. the last time i thought i was smarter than my peers was middle school.

>> No.15676905

>>15676594
ignorance is bliss is a truism for a reason anon. the more i learn the more despair i feel for the state of the world. most people are apathetic and uninformed, happy to act against their own interests and morals. they would gladly be useful pawns for evil men 100 times over before even attempting to learn something beyond rote memorization and regurgitation of whatever ideology they were exposed to first

>> No.15677031

>>15675657
Based

>> No.15677226

I still believe I am capable of anything

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>>15675438
I guess not when I made you realize this earlier.

>> No.15677349

when I started dating an English phd. she broke up with me cause I wasn't smart enough

>> No.15677350

I've never really faced that realization. I breezed through everything academic in life, people always said, "Well you won't be able to do that in [high school, college, the workplace, etc] but I never hit that wall. Now I just coast through working life never knowing what it's like to mentally exert myself toward a goal. I've recently decided to strive for a Candidate Master chess title since that seems pretty hard. Currently ~1700 elo but barely studied anything and don't feel like I'm stuck yet at all.

>> No.15677370

I used to be a redditor so I did drugs until I can only understand twitter posts.

>> No.15677375

When I realized I'm not even good at video games, the one thing I've dedicated 90% of my life to.
Literally the only thing I'm good at is barely paying attention then using a few keywords that happened to stick in my head to play pretend like I'm paying attention.

>> No.15677393

Every one is so sad here.

I love you all, comrads <3

>> No.15677401

>>15677393
Nigger why shouldn't I be sad, I'm autistic and the only thing I've ever been valued on is my ability to not be autistic, which has never been successful enough for people to believe I'm not autistic.

>> No.15677408

>>15677401
>>/therapy/

>> No.15677411

>>15677408
Therapy isn't real.

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>>15675438
About third semester of (prestigious) university.
Most of the other students were hardworking smart people with a drive.
I just study because I know that I'll never have a relationship again and I want to at least have an interesting job, if I don't need to learn hard for exams, I just fall into laziness and unproductivity. Third semester, I really saw the gap between us.

>> No.15677728

>>15677401
Anon I believe in you. Dont try to be like everyone else, embrace your autism.

I really do love you and feel really sad when I think about the way the people around you must have treated you.

Please hang in there and go your own way.

A lot of love from me to you.

>> No.15677745

>Coast through literally every tier of education
>Average a B+/A- in college despite never going to any lectures and doing every assignment the night before

It's not intelligence boyos it's reverse engineering the system.

>> No.15677934

>>15675565
>I've coasted off my entire life (from elementary school to graduate school) being told I'm the smartest kid by my family, teachers/professors, friends, and classmates

That was also the case for me and I feel like it's the main reason I'm such a fuckup today.
When you go through your childhood and adolescence with people calling you a genius and school is very easy, even though it was supposed to be one of the most prestigious institutions in your country, you never really develop an adequate work ethic.

The moment I left school I started to live a very lazy lifestyle with zero commitment to anything. I'm a hopeless procrastinator, the ultimate underachiever. I only take action when it means life or death to me.

>> No.15677952

>>15675438
When I looked at the market and decided who the marks were and who the cattle were and then I said, I saw myself today in you and I am sorry I've let you sink so low amongst the sky.

>> No.15677961

>>15677745
how self-less of you

>> No.15677978

>>15677961
I'm not bragging or anything, it's not impressive what I did, I mean who really needs 2 weeks to write 2500 words? Especially for something like English/Philosophy or History. Everybody is capable of doing what did I'm not a savant.

>> No.15677981

>>15675438
Every day. It's what happens when you're actually growing. Granted, I'd never call myself (and by extension, anyone else) a """"""""midwit"""""""" because that's gay, but I have pretty frequent crises of confidence.

>> No.15677997

>>15677934
What did you study?

>> No.15678020

>>15675438

>> No.15678131

>>15676280
>want to be a filmmaker since I was 14
>too lazy and awkward
>make some short films here and there and some music videos but nothing very good.
>try to get into film school but failed
>eventually do a filmmaking MA, just to stall time
>the teaching is poor and I'm not able to even make anything because of Covid.
>decide, as a hail Mary, to make a webseries during lockdown in my flat
>come up with a premise, think it's really interesting, do some planning
>delay filming to finish Uni work and help mom during lockdown
>return to flat to start filming
>look at my plan/script I've been writing
>it's fucking shit
>really try to imagine what it would look like on screen
>fucking embarrassing

I'm 26 in a month, I've wasted so much time and money on something that I'm awful at, something I have no real interest in. I spent more time imagining all the thing I would make and all the praise I would get and all the interviews I would do, rather than actually making anything.

I'm just not good at anything and I have no desire to do anything. I want to be things but I don't want to do anything to get there. All I crave is inaction and aggrandizement. I don't do anything other than fantasize about being famous and seethe about both never having a girlfriend/ sex that I didn't pay for. That and mindlessly browse the internet, looking for fodder for my fantasies/seething. I don't even read. I just buy books and scan through the articles and posts of people who have read them.

I've got this far on slightly above average intelligence but I can go no further. I'm a midwit hack, plain and simple, and it's such a relief to admit it. Let the void of inaction and indifference take me, I'm done.

>> No.15678148

>>15678131
>it's fucking shit
shoot the webseries anyway
even if it turns out to be shit, you'll learn in the process. filmmaking HAS to be learned hands on, believe me

t. guy who has directed 2 awful short films but is able to see improvement in his craft

>> No.15678149

>>15676672
How can a meme be so true

>> No.15678197

>>15678148
I'm going to because I haven't got anything else to do (besides my MA dissertation but whatever). I just hate that sinking feeling of knowing that what I'm making is a turd.
t. guy who has made 5 short films and whose craft has got noticeably worse with each one

>> No.15678267

>>15678131
I feel you. I'm 29 and have no skills that are of any value to the society.
Last week i've been diagnosed with major depression on top of that.
In my next life i will learn a real profession and keep the creative shit as a hobby.

>> No.15678380

>>15677934
Fuck are you me
I cruised my way through school constantly getting praise for being one of the smartest kids in school never studying except for one year in middle school where I studied really hard and it didn't improve my by much so I continued to slack off from then on.
Then in my sophomore year in college I realize I can't coast through my double major without some serious work and my professors keep telling me how I should be doing better. So I just drop one of my majors and slack off through college with mediocre grades.
Even at work now I just procrastinate and do the absolute bare minimum I legit don't know how to work hard.

>> No.15678464

>>15678380
>legit don't know how to work hard
What is it? What are we missing? I don't understand why I'm like this. It's not even just hard work. Even the prospect of cleaning my room or getting up to get something to eat makes me feel nauseous.

>> No.15678750

>>15678464
Depression

>> No.15678767

When I started reading philosophy.

>> No.15679186

>>15678767
Which philosophy

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>>15675438
I'm pretty sure I've always been aware of my being a hack but I probably didn't see my intelligence as being ingenuine until I got BTFO by and upper level Mathematics class (Real Analysis if anyone is wondering)

>> No.15679564

>>15675445
>me strong
>me no know what to do tho
>ooga booga

>> No.15679569

I knew I was a big brain when I was 6 and I knew I was fucked because of it.

>> No.15679579

>>15679564
Exactly, pure bliss

>> No.15679583

>>15679186
Oh the places you'll go - Dr. Suess

>> No.15679739

>>15678131
Yo anon forgive yourself, life's a bitch. So your not on track. So your not a genius it's ok most people aren't. People on this site way over estimate there intelligence (a sign of stupidity funnily.) Fame is pointless and dumb to chase but it's ok your only near 26. After quarantine if you feel you can't keep going change tracks. I wanted to be a great writer but never wrote so I just stopped trying. Want a way out?

Find a group of people you get on with, a squad of slightly intelligent retards like yourself, sesh with them, show interest in them, shoot shit, do drugs, form a party. Care about them more than yourself and if you choose friends well they will reciprocate, make dumb offensive jokes, don't chase a dream and waste your life with them. They will support you like fame and success never would. Take LSD with them, talk about god. Watch the hours melt away. Go to music gigs with them, love them.

To be a great artist is a long lonely path who's reward is to be miss understood by critics lesser than you. It's a sad life but the greats find reward in the struggle like us mortals never could. Insanity is the realm of the genius, Nietzsche, Woolf, Artuard, lost to madness. Many writers talk about there feelings of failure, there insecurity, missing there life, blinded by there vision.

Unless you really have a vision that drives you down to your veins and cells, save yourself.

A girl will come if you focus on others, they like that, they just want a cuddle and a ear. They will offer the same in return.

This is written on a phone so sorry for it being poorly layed out, but the escape is becoming more interested in others than yourself, that's the escape, allow someone else to your time and attention. Either with mates, or a girl friend. You will find far more satisfaction. The Tao Teh Ching is a good place to start, lord of the rings is a good book for talking about what really matters. I have a great life, I work nights at a shitty supermarket, doesn't bother me, I listen to books while working. I go to gigs at night and play DnD with a bunch of idiots, but there my crew, were close. I just read a bit of Sheakspear and Blake in my own time and cuddle my girl in the morning. Life's not perfect but I'm good. Great actually. Don't waste your time trying to prove something, waste it proving it never mattered to begin with.

>> No.15679744

>>15679564
Yes.

>> No.15679867

>>15679739
Just quick edit. Writing is fun I made it seem too depressing it's actually a really good way to vent and craft you feelings, I meant to say don't get obsessed with being a great writer/film maker, if you enjoy it do it, don't do it too prove anything. I still write poems but for my gf, I'm just not striving to be great or anything.

>> No.15679937

>>15677934
>you never really develop an adequate work ethic.
Agreed about this but one of the things that got me to take work ethic seriously was when I actually started getting bad grades in middle school and early high school (I just wasn't doing assignments) and I turned that around afterward and made sure not to slack off. I still procrastinate a ton but I somehow do all the work on time with few exceptions, and even then (since PhD programs offer extensions more often) other students use lengthier extensions but I try to finish as soon as I can. My problem is that I don't put enough into self-care and that means I have no glamorous home life and I get depressed anyway for social reasons. Anon, I recommend at least trying to keep hobbies if you can.

>> No.15680046

>>15679739
overlong and tedious.

>> No.15680237

>>15678131
imagine being angry because you weren't naturally a mega-genius at something so particular like filmmaking. i'm a screenwriter – i make my living writing scripts – and i started writing purposefully to improve my craft at 14. It took me 10 years of that to write something that i felt was worth a damn. 5 years after that I finally am starting to feel like i have a handle on writing, like I've finally internalized the rules and gotten a feel for the language, now is the part where i finally begin to write in earnest and can start to trust my intuition.

there are maybe a handful of true, precocious geniuses of the arts in history: rimbaud and mozart come to mind. but if you're discouraged that you weren't rimbaud or mozart, then you're dumber than a midwit.

>> No.15680259

>>15680237
post scripts hack

>> No.15680311

>>15680259
no

>> No.15680318

>>15680311
pussy

>> No.15680390

>>15678464
>>15678750
You guys are just pieces of shit with no work ethic. Call it depression if you want, go take a pill to fix it, but it isn't gonna change the fact you're both good for nothings. Have a little fucking dignity Jesus Christ. You're literally sitting here bitching about it on 4chan like that's gonna change anything.

>> No.15680433

>>15675438
All it takes is being social enough to meet a lot of people. You will absolutely run into someone who is on another plane of intelligence. I was fortunate to run into a friend like that in high school. He was a bit spergy due to his extreme intellect but definitely humbling to be around. He would sight unseen work out proofs for anything we covered in calculus rather than pay attention to the teacher. Easy 36 ACT and 1600 SAT first try. He helped me learn I was a midwit and I helped him get laid.

That said, there is a role for the midwit to play. If you are smart enough to identify yourself as a midwit you know your place. You aren't going to innovate so you can give up on that realm, but you are smart enough to have in depth understanding of the known territory. Crucially, not just popular territory of the moment, but the broader territory. Part of knowing the territory is analyzing trends. It is the role of the midwit not to innovate but to resurrect and revivify established ideas that have fallen out of vogue. The zeitgeist and true geniuses are myopic. It is the midwit's duty to alter the landscape through bringing attention to important information that has been forgotten or dismissed. That's why Peterson was literally king midwit and also astronomically successful and resonant. Too bad he doesn't consider himself a midwit, but being a lifelong social science academic may as well be added to the dsm as a mental illness.

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>>15680390
>getting this mad because people are lazy on 4chan
You're the biggest bitch of them all.

>> No.15680508

>>15675438
In elementary school when I met my best friend who changed schools in the 4th grade. I was the smartest kid in the school until then. He was just so unambiguously more talented than me at everything that it was a humbling and important experience for me. I feel like most people don't have that until later on in high school or even college.

>> No.15680621

>>15680433
This gives me hope

>> No.15681489

>>15680433
cope

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>tfw midwit but with exceptional taste
I'm basically smart by extension

>> No.15681853

>>15675438
I never thought I was anything beyond it, I've read a lot of books, know a lot of things, experienced a lot of life but I don't believe anyone alive today is great in any sense of the word