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Haven't visited this place for some months, now this book is a meme.
Give me a quick rundown of this woman and her work. Is it a good meme like Ulysses or is it a meme like harry potter?

>> No.15652998

>>15652990
it was actually ghostwritten by Scruffles

>> No.15653010
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>>15652990
The former.

>> No.15653063

>>15652990
>The fact that,

>> No.15653188

>>15653010
Stop posting this chart and neck yourself.

>>15652990
It is unreadable garbage, if you want to read contemporary lit, see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Kafka_Prize
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Ibsen_Award
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_in_Literature
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Council_Literature_Prize
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neustadt_International_Prize_for_Literature

None of these are perfect, especially the Nobel, but they are still infinitely better than the garbage the retards keep posting here

>> No.15653455

It's really not a meme. It's an incredibly engaging and highly ambitious book. /lit/ won't read it because lit doesn't read, and because it's written by a woman, when in reality it's the most important book to come out in the last 5 years. It completely encapsulates the current era in American history while drawing on the tenets of Modern literature (drawing hugely from Molly's soliloquy of course) and the stream of consciousness, the fractured narrative, the invasive overstimulation of media and information in the internet age, and has some of the most beautiful, muscular prose strewn throughout, disrupting the "single" sentence of the main character's inner monologue.

not a meme

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>daughter of a joyce scholar
can she be any more based?

>> No.15653502

>>15653455
I know you're just baiting for (You)s, but I think this unironically.

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I hate illiterate amerimutts who can't recognize intellectual greatness even if it stares them right in the eyes, or even outright refuse to read books outside of the shit their media and /lit/ brainwashed them into reading and liking.

>> No.15653527

>>15653502
the fact that a sincere post about a book (by someone who has actually read it) is seen as ironic shitposting, the fact that this is the absolute state of /lit/

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>> No.15653546

>>15653455
it's facile trash

>> No.15653553

>>15653546
cool, can you point to any of the text to support your based argument? because you've clearly read the book.
what are your thoughts on the narrative shift about 2/3rds of the way through?
what are your thoughts on the parallel narrative that interrupts the stream of consciousness?

>> No.15653563

>>15653527
/lit/ is little more than /pol/ colony these days.

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>>15653553
I don't have to read the book to have an opinion on it.

>> No.15653626

Why go on /lit/ if you don't read books?

>> No.15653631

>>15653626
Why go on /lit/ if you do read books?

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>>15653617
the absolute state

>> No.15653667

>>15653626
So I can redpill normies.

>>15653631
This.

>> No.15653687
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> the fact that Trump wants to take cover away from 630,000 Ohioans who took up Obamacare last year, and if he gets away with it, some of those poor souls are possibly going to die
>, the fact that Trump wants to get mining and oil drilling going in all the National Parks, MAGA, MSM, the fact that next he’ll get somebody to shave off Abe Lincoln’s beard at Mount Rushmore,
>the fact that OoJ stands for obstruction of justice, which is something Trump gets up to all the time,
>, the fact that Trump called Melania a “monster”
when she was pregnant, and maybe she is a monster, but he’s one to talk, big fat bully, “grab ’em by the ——,” the fact that the idea of a makeover scares the heck out of me, the fact that I’m too shy for that kind of thing,
>the fact that I had a bad dream about Trump last night too,
>w, the fact that sometimes it feels like this whole country’s got Stockholm Syndrome, like we’re all held prisoner, the fact that I wonder how many people dream about getting along with Trump, Democrats too, the fact that I’ve had dreams like that, handcuffs, strong-armed,
>he fact that Trump’s wall will impact on wildlife on both sides, but I don’t think he cares about things impacting on animals,
>the fact that Trump said Melania better lose all
the baby weight within a week of giving birth, or else
>the fact that Trump is always assessing women and commenting on them like he’s some great expert on beauty
>r, the fact that Trump likes steak, the fact that we’d all be better off if he ate less of it, the fact that red meat makes people aggressive, and then they go on a gun rampage or press the nuclear button or something,
>the fact that apparently Trump can’t golf well at
all,
>the fact that Trump’s always talking about terrorism but maybe he’s the terrorist,
>Trump will call Muslims bad names
>the fact that I think he’s a big bully, coward, mean guy, third rate, just like Trump, “Sad!”
>the fact that you don’t have to know anything about molecules to know that water is in love with itself, but in a good way, not like Trump
>the fact that I don’t think I can listen to Trump anymore, I just can’t take any more of him,

>> No.15653702

>>15653188
>Written by a woman
>It's unreadable
Imagine my shock.

>> No.15653721

>>15653188
>Franz_Kafka_Prize

Not a bad list, but these writers are barely Kafkaesque.

>> No.15653737

>>15652990
all i know is i'm not buying a 1000 page paperback just to have the binding fall apart on a first read

>> No.15653756

>>15653687
facts don't care about your feelings, snowflake. just admit you got filtered.

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>>15653756
>you got filtered.

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>>15652990
No
Discernible
Talent

>> No.15653804

>>15653702
I know that you are baiting, but there are good women writers nowadays, like Yoko Ogawa, Tokarczuk, Anne Carson, Lydia Davis, etc.

>>15653721
It isn't about writers similar to Kafka in any way.
I agree that it is good, I prefer it to the Nobel. Atwood, and Lianke were bad choices, but overall they gave it to such brilliant writers like Amos Oz, Magris, Banville, Handke, etc. so it is a good source of recommendations.

>> No.15653858

>>15653687
Is the subtext of the book about middle class white ladies suffering under Trump Derangement Syndrome?

>> No.15653869

>>15653626
yeah, I mean, why haven't I read every single book ever written, right? fucking faggot

>> No.15653892

>>15653626
I think I read that 20,000 books are published in english every year. If you read 52 books a year for 80 years you would tot up 4160, which means there's some cause for discrimination when choosing what to read next. 1000 pages of 'the fact that' needs some convincing.

>> No.15653933

>>15653892
Oh wait, I was way off, it's more like 400,000 published a year.

>> No.15654145

>>15653892
what is the "the fact that"? Is it like "stretched his leg" and "and but so"?

>> No.15654213

>>15653617
Please, please kill yourself you retarded faggot piece of shit.

>> No.15654226

>>15654213
that's an incredibly violent and dangerous thing to say for another human bean

>> No.15654856

>>15654145
Here's an excerpt of the book:
https://www.galleybeggar.co.uk/extract-ducks
"The fact that" seems to start most clauses. Having read the extract, this style seems exhausting, and honestly can't see how it can sustain itself for 1,000 pages.
Is this being pushed on lit because it's yet another encyclopedic tome in the vein of Joyce?

>> No.15655396

>>15654856
it's incontestably joycean, and draws upon wittgenstein's tractatus

>1. The world is all that is the case.
>1.1. The world is the totality of facts, not of things.

>> No.15655744

>>15652990
This book is terrible.

>> No.15655751

>>15653455
Alan Moore's Jerusalem is the better work.

>> No.15655756

>>15652990
look i'm not reading this based purely on the fact that it's written by a white wealthy woman privileged enough to be raised by academics and probably is a neolib

>> No.15655849

>>15655751
not much better

>> No.15655877

>>15653687
>book is written from the pov of a middle aged female college professor from the Midwest
>has qualms with the main character disliking trump
It’s sad when your politics distort the nature of common sense.

>> No.15655887

>>15655877
Trump is the greatest president of the past 100 years. Nothing about disliking him is grounded in common sense.

>> No.15655952

>>15655887
stop larping

>> No.15655960

>>15655952
You are suffering a severe case of TDS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome

>> No.15656036

>>15655960
>The term has been used by Trump supporters to discredit criticism of his actions, as a way of reframing the discussion by suggesting that his opponents are incapable of accurately perceiving the world.

pepefrog.gif

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>>15654856
holy guacamole

>> No.15657412

>>15656036
Why not both

>> No.15659235

if we kill the author will the threads stop I just want them to stop does anyone know her home address

>> No.15659276

>>15652990
Honestly this book just seems so fucking boring, it's not offering anything new or groundbreaking the way Ulysses did and it's not written by a person with even half the amount of talent that Joyce had. I think people just see stream of consciousness and think it must be good because of Ulysses and maybe Mrs. Dalloway. At the end of the day what does this book offer for a second reading? It's a middle-aged housewife complaining after all.

>> No.15659285

>>15652990
this book bothers me because i'm sure that the only reason it's about newburyport is because that's the last stop on the purple line

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>>15657342
Thats a lot of "the fact" on there...