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15632247 No.15632247 [Reply] [Original]

>Fuck E William Brown Edition
Where were you when you realized Sanderson was a Hack?
When was the last time you wanted to jaaz to Sarah Maas' big... showings
Name one well written Chink Novel (you can't)
Name Three well written Self Published Novels published in 2020 (you can't)

>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg
https://mega.nz/folder/JrhSyY6S#7qmTPol52TnmpFOdbag7RQ
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

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>> No.15632273
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>>15632247
Fuck you, E William Brown.

>> No.15632296

Could I post a chapter or two of my prose in a pastebin link here or would I just get shit on?

>> No.15632316

>>15632296
Why would you post your stuff here if you were afraid of getting shit on?

>> No.15632354

Looking for a fun, easy read. Be it fantasy or sci-fi.
Something that isn't swamped down with setting up world politics, or detailing the lives of 100+ characters. Just a good adventure.
I haven't read much of either, Horror and Mystery are my typical go to's, or books about Nazi Gold or drug use.

>> No.15632387
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So I pick up Burn Cycle by Joel Dane.
A second installment in a fairly typical military sci-fi series, with sci-fi as soft as a baby's bottom and author's idea of military life seems to come from late night TV shows (you know, the shitty ones).
I crack open the book and I start reading and lo and behold what do I get to read:

"“Everyone bores her.” He clasps his hands on his belly and launches into squad gossip, telling me who is Gospel Safa and who is Theodaoist, who is asexual and who is grim.
“That’s a slur,” Kumeyer says, his ears pinking. “You shouldn’t call people that.”
“What, grim? Two of my sibs are grim.”
“Dimsalan has seventy-five siblings,” Theca tells me.
“Thirty-five.” Dimsalan frowns. “And two are, excuse me, monosexual.”
I’m with Kumeyer: at least in Coastal Vegas, grim is a slur against people who only sleep with a single sex."

Or this doozy:
"I’ll never change, though. I know that now. I’m a nationalist in my heart, an insurgent. I’m the kind of person who poisons a planet to pay his family’s rent. The kind who pulls the trigger for a paycheck, telling himself that he’s putting food on the table.
I’m not proud of my sordid inclinations, but I know what they are. I can’t see the big picture, I can’t serve an abstraction. I’m too small-minded, too petty and selfish. All I care about is my tribe—my people, my squad—and now I’ve lost them.
I’m a patriot in my heart, an insurgent, a nationalist. I’m petty and selfish; the sworn enemy of the big picture, of the greater good. I’m a grunting caveman bound to his tribe and I’m scared."

There is so much unabashed corporate dick sucking (on top of actual dick sucking) in this book. It's amazing. The author is trying so hard to present this corporate, multi-kulti, full on faggotry culture as being superior.
And all this corporate dick sucking is coming from your run of the mill antifa, punch Nazis, etc. Twitter trash.
I am not really sure how he reconciles those two positions.

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>>15632354

>> No.15632406

>>15632398
Why is she always doing a fat girl angle shot, anytime she takes a picture?

>> No.15632479

>>15632398
I never read her books, but I give it a try, do you recommend me another book or saga to begin with her?

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>>15632479

>> No.15632504

Sanderson is a big fat dork.

>> No.15632543

>>15632502
I'll give it a try, thanks lad!

>> No.15632592

Why is the fantasy market saturated with so much shit?

>> No.15632604

>>15632387
>There is so much unabashed corporate dick sucking (on top of actual dick sucking) in this book. It's amazing
it's genuinely funny how bad you are at reading
the anti-corporate stuff in that series isn't even subtext it's just text

>> No.15632684

>>15632604
>the anti-corporate stuff in that series isn't even subtext it's just text
Please post it here. I would love to be wrong and that he was just too subtle while taking the piss out of those mean corpos (as every YA naturally should).
I am guessing you are OK with the whole diversity, multi-kulti, taking it up the ass angle so I won't press you on that.

>> No.15632712

>>15632247
You don't like being a pay piggie?

>> No.15632742

>>15632712
I think he's a jilted pay piggie.

>> No.15632762

Got the building in tomorrow, and they gotta turn my electric off, so I need a new series to read.
Should I start Wheel of Time?

>> No.15632774

>>15632762
no. it's going to be a tv show. it's dead to me. I need to get rid of a tattoo now, as well, so if you know a guy.

>> No.15632784

wtf is a E William Brown?

>> No.15632792

How do you guys actually find books? I look online and it's the same series recommended over and over like Stormlight and First law and the rest is absolute trash by women.

>> No.15632802

>>15632792
Leddit and/or Goodreads.

>> No.15632811

>>15632792
author's blogs, is where I used to get refs from, back when I read sci-fi.

>> No.15632841

/sffg/, I think I'm afraid to get published. So many people write fantasy books and most of them are unpublishable. The ones that do get published rarely sell at all. If my book sells badly, I wouldn't be proud that I wrote it, I'd be ashamed that I failed and take it as a sign of my own worthlessness

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>Where were you when you realized Sanderson was a Hack?
Past the middle but before the end of Mistborn when I realized that he was trying to write a plot and characters that were more clever than he was.
>When was the last time you wanted to jaaz to Sarah Maas' big... showings
I had to google who that was.
>Name one well written Chink Novel (you can't)
They did just destroy their own culture this past century. Give them a few decades more.
>Name Three well written Self Published Novels published in 2020 (you can't)
Haven't read anything self published, I've been angsting over my writer's block.

>My Turn
Can a mass audience stomach a high fantasy setting without the filter of it being a novel aimed at children or young adults?

>> No.15632883

>>15632802
>>15632802
>Leddit
Been took over by women

>> No.15632885

Who is E William Brown and why does /sffg/ want to fuck him so much?

>> No.15632900

>>15632883
Women have good taste though.
Who doesn't love having 'The Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller' and 'The Priory of the Orange Tree by Samantha Shannon' recommended to them in EVERY FUCKING THREAD!

>> No.15632903

>>15632865
>Can a mass audience stomach a high fantasy setting without the filter of it being a novel aimed at children or young adults?

if you are a pervert HBO will pick it up after you publish.

>> No.15632919

>>15632841
Be realistic, judging your measure of success in terms of money isn't useful. In reality you have to either be extremely lucky or have a established name in order to make any signifiant cash from book these days. Putting your book out there in the fist place is already more than what a lot of would be writers do.

>> No.15632929

>>15632841
More that likely, you will never be published, and even if you do, you will most likely never sell more than 10,000 copies.
That doesn't make you a failure or worthless, anon.
Giving up before you even begin is what makes you a failure.

>> No.15632930

>>15632903
So you're saying that all those brothel scenes are a go? Excellent.

>> No.15632945

>>15632903
>if you are a pervert HBO will pick it up after you publish.
Didn't HBO do the Golden Compass tv show?
are there sex scenes in that I didn't know about?

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15632946

Need some light reading for a week or two, this series any good or should I keep looking?

>> No.15632981

>>15632919
it's not about the money it's about the success.

>>15632929
If I got 10,000 people to read my book I'd be thrilled. my fear is selling under 100 copies. If that happened I wouldn't even have a reason to keep writing, or living for that matter. Imagine finding out your only reason for living is pointless

>> No.15633015

>>15632981
>it's not about the money it's about the success
Same concept. What's your measure of success? If you're wanting to be the next "big" thing then sorry to say but the chances of that happening are pretty slim. Also it seems like you're putting way too much stock in how many people read your stuff. I've put out stuff that only like five people have read but that doesn't deter me.

>> No.15633027

>>15632792
I look up Classics and New releases and then go through shit like goodreads recs or lists on sites like tor and lookup anything remotely interesting.

Goodreads is like 80% miss 10% fantastic book in my experience of their recs, although it's best to make a shelf for recommendations and gradually tailor the books in it i.e. if you keep noticing it's recommending you trash because of a specific book take that one off the shelf.

>> No.15633193

>>15633015
if i worked for two years on a book and only sold 5 copies i'd kill myself on the spot and id be right to.

>> No.15633253

>>15633193
Just enjoy the ride, and not the destination.

It also helps to gain an audience before you publish anything of any worth. Enter some short stories into magazines, or onto websites. I got half a dozen poems published in a magazine and managed to gain around 2k followers (probably mostly bots), and got people who liked my shit. I then managed to get a short story published in the same magazine, and gain a bunch more.
Now I am pretty much hitting the ground running if I ever get something worthy of being professionally published and printed.

>> No.15633265

Mother of Learning is suprisingly good, despite being set in a magic school it doesn't lean too much on that element of it.

>> No.15633360

>>15632247
>E William Brown
whats with this meme who is he?

>> No.15633391

>>15633253
anon, if I was only writing for myself id never commit a damn word to paper. im not breaking my back and wearing my nerves for fun. im doing it for the end result. how am i supposed to enjoy that if the result is crap! its not just wasted effort, its a failure at my only goddamn reason for living

>> No.15633486

Lem is the best scifi author to have existed. That is all.

>> No.15633563

Almost finished with Fall of Hyperion. Sol's and Gladstone's subplots were 10/10 and worthy succesors of the original, everything else was kind of bad. It seems that most of the pilgrims just didn't have enough characterization for their voices to work outside of the framing device that allowed them to narrate their own stories. The Consul in particular got really bland (I especially loved how we had to hear the story of why he betrayed the Hegemony to avenge Maui-Covenant every other chapter with the Pilgrims until the last time Simmons realized it was clunky as fuck and had him just tell Theo offscreen) and Lamia became a generic damsel in distress. The Keats cybrid was just Martin Silenus lite until he becomes a neverending torrent of Keats biographical information and references when they go back to Earth for him to die, which while probably intended got obnoxious. The endless retreading of stuff from the first book stinks of hamfisted editorial mandate, who the fuck is going to read a 500-page sequel to a book without first reading the original anyway?

I was spoiled about the stuff with the Void Which Binds and love, and thought it sounded really stupid, but when coupled with the Omega Point stuff and the Ouster's treatment of it it actually ended as one of the bright spots of the novel IMO.

>> No.15633649

>>15632479
Don't bother, Mass is like the most stereotypical "teen girl genre fiction" author that's not Stephenie Meyer, she's like the Michael Scott Earle of YA fiction for girls.

However there's some really amusing posts about fans canceling each other on tumblr on r/hobbydrama.

>> No.15633661

>>15633563
Also, a very minor quibble that probably comes down to my autism: I didn't like how the hawking mats got so much screentime. In the first book we first see them mentioned as trinkets for tourists in Maui-Covenant and then the Consul's story works them into poignant symbols of the Hegemony's stagnation. It was really fucking cheesy for the Consul to have brought his dad's ancient hawking mat in his packs all along, AND for it to also be Sholokov's original on top.

>> No.15633756

>>15632946
It starts well but at some point it becomes clear the books are being written because the series is selling well, not because the author has anything more to say.

>> No.15633886

>>15632247
Why all the E William Brown hate?
You don't like how he made Daniel a tranny?

>> No.15633964

>>15633391
Jesus fuck you're narcissistic.
>if people don't give me attention how can I live
Are you female? Maybe the popular boy/girl fresh out of high school and you realized that no one out here gives a fuck who you are?

>> No.15633992

>>15632865
>Can a mass audience stomach a high fantasy setting without the filter of it being a novel aimed at children or young adults?
The appeal of self publishing is the adult novels you get. No publishing house telling you you can't write this, or that.

>> No.15634062

>>15632903
Given GoT, you don't need to finish it for HBO.

>> No.15634152

>>15633886
No one really cares about the body swap. That's probably gonna be fixed in the next book before they all return.
People seem to be angry about the pace at which Brown writes. No one wants to read Alice Long, everyone wants Daniel Black. He takes ungodly amounts of time to write a novel. And he never tells anyone how far along he is. He has "had" a blog but doesn't post on it and only updates his subscribe star and only paying simps can see posts.

>> No.15634163

>>15633964
never popular, just "gifted". That word has probably cost the world more passionate and curious weirdos than any other one in the english language.

Anon, I'm well aware how pathetic I sound and I expect to sound that way for the rest of my life. 17 years of therapy haven't made a dent in my need to prove myself, and I'm not sure anything else will. I guess I'm exaggerating when I say that my life would be without purpose if I wasn't writing, but failure would be a big enough blow to my self esteem that I expect it would come up in my suicide note

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Local book store came through like whoa

>> No.15634231

>>15632354
Cradle

>> No.15634261

>>15632792
Browse amazon

>> No.15634286

>>15632792
I listen to whatever comes up on audiobook pirate sites.

>> No.15634323

>>15634184
Abandon physicality!
Embrace digital life.

>> No.15634784

>>15634163
Wait. You're the suicide watch plot-wall-hitting, the rapist couch sitting anon? I didn't know you were a narcissistic cunt too. I thought you were just a self absorbed autist.

>> No.15634792

>>15634184
The Golem and the meme. I didn't ask for the feels from that book.

>> No.15634866

>>15634784
I don't consider myself a narcissist but then again few narcissists do. Frankly, a diagnosis wouldn't surprise me. I've got enough mental illnesses already to fill a phonebook

>> No.15634937

>>15634152
I think if users started to pull out from the substar listing he would be forced to actually pubish?

>> No.15635078

Does anyone remember a young adult series about virtual reality? I read it back in 2007, I think. There were a bunch of them, all revolving around this virtual reality internet. One was a mystery book about minds being copied and enslaved while playing MMOs, and another had a girl get stuck in an accelerated time simulated world that was basically vikings and escaping by building a rocket to go to the logout terminal in a space station. There was one where a boy logged into the security system of his house with his VR helmet and turned into a spider.

>> No.15635110

>>15634937
no

>> No.15635428

>>15634184
>Anne McCaffery

Now there's a name I haven't heard in a while.

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Is Soldier of Sidon worth checking out? I hear it drops in quality from the previous two books quite significantly.

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>>15632247
Firefight - Brandon Sanderson, Reckoners #2, Young Adult Post-Apocalyptic Superhero Urban Fantasy, 2015
1st book read ~6 years ago, 3.5/5
The cover is extraordinarily awful. This isn't part of Cosmere.
The following is written in a style consistent with the book.

I had forgotten much of the first book, so it took me a while to get back into it. I really ought to read series as they are released and all that have been already released in short order, as I do for other media. I'm currently trying to correct that.
Finding western urban fantasy books that I enjoy has been exceedingly difficult for me. Same for superhero. I don't read the standard sort of western superhero comics for a variety of reasons. This series so far has had many similarities to The Boys by Garth Ennis which ended a year before Steelheart, the first book in the series, was released and seems like a YA version of it.
What the author was going for with the characterization of the 19 year old male protagonist remained unclear to me. Early on the protagonist boasts that he's murdered dozens of people. He often comes off as more as a nigh autistic ideological mass murderer than someone fighting for the welfare of others, even in terms of self-identification, though more so with his interactions to others. His level of self-awareness is rather inconsistent as well. It's not quite to the level of Dexter Morgan from Dexter. Then there are passages like this, "I doubted Lulu carried grenades in her bra, ample though it was." and "Many Epics behaved like ordinary people, save for their absolute lack of morals" which is ironic but it wasn't really explored since the protagonist doesn't behave like an ordinary person and has an idiosyncratic set of morals. The whiplash between describing how awesome it feels to murder to #notallepics annoyed me. The Reckoners organization also reminded me of the assassin's order in the first Assassin's Creed and generally how that progressed by the end.
Although various girls are thrown at him, the protagonist keeps telling himself that all he wants and needs is his waifu, which causes problems with the other female characters. His relationship to his waifu is also rather distorted, as he describes not actively being murdered by her as true love and her saying how sweet his plans to kidnap and imprison was. It's unfortunate when love, sex, violence, and death are felt as the same.
"Her dark African American skin" Was it necessary to put African American there? It's rather silly.
As a marginally relevant aside, I didn't like what I watched of Powers and Heroes and Agents of Shield were meh. Misfits and The Boys were my most enjoyed relevant western tv series, though I didn't agree with a lot of the choices made in the TV series of the latter, so I enjoyed the former more overall.

3/5
TL;DR: Unpowered guy with a waifu complex continues to kill superpowered people because power literally corrupts, though his superpowered waifu is exempted.

>> No.15637030

>>15635078
That sounds cool, but seeing the year it was written I'm sure it's filled with cliches and overused tropes out the ass.

>> No.15637107

>>15637030
Oh, almost certainly. I was recommended the first book by a teacher because I was a computer nerd and the cover for the book was this generic circuit graphic, it was definitely for children and younger teens. In the viking one there was a spaceship operated by a key that hovered in a room and you moved the ship by moving the key around. The time acceleration apparently just worked, the viking world was one where they let time advance at a rapid rate to watch how medieval civilisation would develop with AI citizens.

The closest equivalent in modern media seems to be Sword Art Online Alicization.

>> No.15637218

>>15637107
It sounds like the megaman game/cartoon where you jacked into networks with your navi. Mixed with that disney smart house(for the last one).

>Sword Art Online Alicization
There is a new sword art? Will it never end?

>> No.15637265

Be honest. Besides LOTR, is there anything /sffg/ that you're not ashamed to have on the shelf when you have guests? I keep my Harry Potter collection in the closet so I don't get called a manchild.

>> No.15637268

>>15637218
IIRC there were full-body haptic feedback suits you wore, some kind of helmet, and the people wealthy enough had a dedicated room with padding on all surfaces for the VR. It was a bit cyberpunk, I guess, but not to the extent that people had implants to connect to computers or anything like that. At least not that I can recall, it's been a while since I read it.

Alicization is the most recent one, yeah. The newest VR tech lets you plug directly into the MMO with your actual soul as the control interface, which allows unsurpassed realism and time acceleration. They're running an entire world of copied souls in accelerated time to create an AI for use in robotics. It's actually not as bad as it sounds, but yeah, it is still Sword Art.

>> No.15637329

>>15637265
I keep my whole collection on display. My guests either don't care about books enough to recognise any titles, or they have similar taste.
But I'm a woman so having Harry Potter on the shelf isn't that big a deal.

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Who would win in a fight?
>Elric of Melniboné
vs
>Conan the Cimmerian

>> No.15637392

>>15632247
As a returning reader, are there any based booktubers out there or are they all just mid twenties women making top tens and vlogs?

>> No.15637412

>>15637389
Gerald of Rivera.

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>>15632247
Jesus fucking christ.
So I'm making my way through the Vorkosigan Saga right? And It's going fine. Feels like it peaked it Mirror Dance. But for a few books after that, it was cruising along nicely. Still good.
The story kind of shifted gears from crazy space missions, to political tangles and intrigue. Which I was down for.

A bit of indulgent fanservice with characters getting shipped. But fine, whatever. But starting with Komarr, I've noticed a downward trend of hokey sitcom/romcom tropes. Steadily becoming worse over time. I was willing to overlook all that. but then I got to "Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen". And this it the book that made me say "Jesus fucking christ"

This old HUSSIE, is actually writing a story revolving around your parents' sex lives. The absolute TROLLOP.
Imagine coming to think of two characters as being older parental figures throughout the series. And then you're forced to learn about their sex lives. Their open relationship. Their lusts. Their bisexuality.(I'm not knocking bisexuals per se, but all of this combined is a bit much to handle.) Casually discussing how they're going to make a bunch of babies using cold medical science. And the process of gene manipulation. And the process of giving sperm samples. And how the third wheel in the bisexual open relationship is going to splice his genes in with his gay lover. Who, btw, happens to be dead already. So they're just using the DNA he left behind to have posthumous gay babies. And the book is heavily foreshadowing a romantic relationship between the third wheel in his 50s, and the mom character who is in her 70s, so she's actually more like a grandma.(Except she's aged well, so she can totally pass for 50, the book says) So there's about a 20 year age difference between the two. And it's casually mentioned that the 50yo man was 10 around the time of the war against the pretender. So it puts the idea in your mind just how severe the age gap between the characters are. About a 35-40(?) year gap between the two bisexual men. Which is super fucking gross.
And I'm sorry, but It's all just too much.

It's TOO fucking much. I know it's a super progressive sci-fi future and all that. But I don't want to read about the skeevy sex lives of these characters.
I need another book.

>> No.15637493

>>15637414
Fuckin' degenerates.

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>>15636071
Calamity - Brandon Sanderson, Reckoners #3, 2016

Over the course of three books I've found Sanderson's sense of humor to be both terrible and moderately amusing, but more so the former.
Sanderson's sanitization of everything except violence shows that he's a TRUE AMERICAN. Also, it's rather bothersome.

>I'd rather by yelled at by [waifu] than be praised by anyone else
Yeah, no.

>I imagined...her sweating
>she smelled like
As various idiots on here meme: IMAGINE THE SMELL

>You stuck your tongue in my ear
IMAGINE THE TASTE

>I don't feel the thrill of [murdering] I once did.
GASP!

>I considered 'Team Black'...kinda racist
>Isn't all it alright to call yourselves black...since you're both African American?
Sanderson really inserts social issues in awkward ways, since that's only a bit of it.

At the end the protagonist says his catchphrase again, even though his character arc has supposedly moved passed that, but most of the character development for most of the characters is probably illusory anyway.

Series ending spoiler for those who become upset about "bad endings" too see if it's too awful to read the series.
The protagonist goes through with being a literal suicide bomber, which is what I was alluding to what he seemed like in the second book, but decided to go with "ideological mass murderer" instead. That doesn't work because the final foe is too powerful and negates everything. So, the protagonists resorts to using the most powerful force in the universe: LOVE & FRIENDSHIP. Apparently its literal use understandably upset a lot of people, but I'm used to it, though this is one of the more blatant examples I've ever seen where doing a LOVE & FRIENDSHIP tour defeats him and solves all of their problems immediately.

What bothered me more was how the biblical scripture quoting genocidal maniac antagonist who had already killed a few hundred thousand people was basically shrugged off at the end.

I could have done this write-up entirely differently but I didn't want to.

2.5/5
TL;DR: If you're someone for whom the ending of a series can ruin everything preceding it, then you probably shouldn't read this series. I wouldn't recommended it for /sffg/ in general.

Goodreads
1: 4.2
2: 4.3
3: 4.2

/sffg/
1: 3.4 (9)
2: 3.5 (6)
3: 2.7 (6)

That seems like a significant difference between GR and /sffg/. Hopefully when I get around to doing a lot of this for the group it will be similarly helpful overall.

>> No.15637518

Is the Expanse series worth a read?

>> No.15637520

>>15637518
Yeah sure.

>> No.15637604

>>15637520
OK, thanks.

>> No.15637615

>>15637518
Whenever it gets political it's really annoying, and they try so hard to be hard that they end up going in the opposite direction. Travel times within the solar system are portrayed as routinely taking months, but with a constant .3g acceleration they should rarely exceed weeks.
But it's pretty good.

>> No.15637617

>>15637604
No problem buddy.

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I finished Skyward from Sanderson and as the books goes on it get's more and more boring sadly, the final battle is kinda cool... i guess, but it's the typical sanderson finale of throwing everything in the board and using some deus ex machina for the heros to win

>> No.15637719

>posts longer than a sentence
>on 4chan
Don't do it!

>> No.15637728

>>15632354
Monster Hunter International.
Larry just likes to make fun books.

>> No.15637773

>>15637265
>having guests

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15637843

>>15634866
>I've got enough mental illnesses already to fill a phonebook
You've already diagnosed yourself.

>> No.15637882

>>15637265
Dune.

>> No.15638379

>>15637265
>caring this much
You’re an insecure faggot. Grow up.

>> No.15638385

>>15637412
>Gerald

>> No.15638441

>>15638385
Jerry of Riverrun.

>> No.15638509

>>15637265
LIke a real man, I don't give a shit what anyone thinks of what I read. You really are a manchild if you are ashamed of what you're reading, and going to great lengths so as not to be found out.

>> No.15638713

Look, you have been reading the series thorough, but how have you not been seeing the characters? Bujold RULES on her characters. Lady Cordelia is from Beta Colony, they are more liberal sexual mores. And the book is a romance/sci-fi for a woman, widowed, only to find love again.
Bujold was inducted as a grandmaster by the SFWA his year. She's a treasure.
And in closing, Lady Cordelia is one of the sci-fi people I'd love to dine with. Granny Weatherwax is another

>> No.15638747

>>15632247
Fuck Sanderson
Fuck female authors
Fuck grimdark
Fuck violence fetishized by soft, middle-class losers
Fuck trilogies
Fuck chinkshit
Fuck magic systems

>> No.15638750

>>15637265
Latro

>> No.15638767

>>15638747
Fuck GRRM.

>> No.15638771

>>15638747
Fuck Eddings

>> No.15638915

>>15637268
>The newest VR tech lets you plug directly into the MMO with your actual soul as the control interface, which allows unsurpassed realism and time acceleration.
So after being trapped for how long in the game, having people die irl from playing the game, and barely getting out, of said game... People still want to play it, and now, the game designers have found physical,mquantifiable proof that the soul exists.... And what do they do with it? Jack into it for an online game that might trap you without the chance of getting out.... People actually watch this shit? No wonder I see people here have nothing but disdain for anything litrpg, if normies compare litrpg novels to sword art online, people that don't read good ones will have a skewed notion of the work being discussed.

>> No.15638965

>>15637633
Why do all drawings have women bowfooted? Does not having a dick cause your two feet to point to each other?

>> No.15639064

>>15638915
That argument holds true for the first few Sword Arts. The first game (no magic medieval fantasy) obviously should be banned, and it and its console was. Then a safer console was released with a new game (the fairie RPG), which I guess is believable, but the PR would be very bad. Then the people trapped in the medieval RPG were released and also spread the source code for the engine of that RPG, which was used to make dozens of new RPGs. That... probably would have been banned, and while there would be users I doubt they'd ever become as mainstream as the setting portrays them, considering the heritage of that death game. Then an augmented-reality phone game is released which cripples a bunch of people. That VRMMOs weren't banned at that point really is incredible. Also some serial killer used the grimdark FPS RPG to find victims, surely that couldn't help?

The RPG in Alicization is a bit different though, it isn't actually a game. They developed a simulated world based on the previous RPGs so that millions of AIs (copied human souls...) could lead complete lives, in the hopes of creating a "free willed" AI to use in weapons development. That an otherwise banned technology would be used for that is a plot I can totally accept, there's even a bunch of stuff about how Japan is keeping that programme secret from the USA just because of how evil it makes them loo. Last I checked the anime the stage was "NSA funded mercs break into the top secret oil rig hosting the Alicization world and when they're about to be defeated enlist the aid of millions of American PC gamers to form an evil army in the VR world to defeat the Japs and steal the free-willed AI, meanwhile the Jap gamers from the previous bunch of Sword Arts enlist a few thousand Japanese PC gamers to fight the Americans in the VR world so that the Japanese military can keep control of the AI, also the evil magical dragon-riding knights from earlier have switched sides and now help the protagonists". High level fiction it is not.

>> No.15639072
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15639072

What do you guys think of the way the movie tackled the fantasy genre?

Just got pic related as a gift recently.

>> No.15639077

>>15633649
>>15632479
To say nothing of some rather titillating photos of her feet.

>> No.15639123

>>15637265
I've had guests mire my illustrated Silmarillion copy on more than one occasion. I don't really give a shit, on my bookshelf Eragon is sandwiched between Zelazny and Crichton.

>> No.15639144

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.15639283

>>15639064
>after reading all of that
Again I ask, people actually watch this shit?

>> No.15639305

>>15639072
>What do you guys think of the way the movie tackled the fantasy genre?
You mean magic dying and becoming a fable due to technology, like in the real world? Nothing.
I hate the wizard robes and staff cliche of magic.

>> No.15639317

>>15637265
>thinking lotr is anything profound to have on your shelf

>> No.15639374

>>15632296
I try to give most of the original work posted a chance, but nobody's really impressed me yet.

>> No.15639427
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15639427

Any books about aliens invading/exploring/contacting Earth but written completely from the perspective of the aliens? Does such a book exist?

Like I read this book written from the perspective of a Neanderthal contacting Homo sapiens (The Inheritors) and as it was from the perspective of the retarded Neanderthals, the writing was simple and oogs boogish and reflected that .
So basically that book but with aliens is what I want.

>> No.15639462

>>15639427
I don't know about books, but it's a popular enough subject for short stories.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/top/ Half of these are the basic premise of "aliens meet humans and are amazed".

>> No.15639481

>>15639462
>aliens meet humans and are amazed
Those guys are so full of themselves. The aliens are amazed because we haven't wiped ourselves out as yet.

>> No.15639548

>>15639481
>unironically not having an anthropocentric worldview

>> No.15639610 [DELETED] 

Damn I can't believe Malazan is as long as it is and doesn't contain a SINGLE gay character. Props to Erikson

>> No.15639622

>>15639462
>>15639481
Yeah, the main problem with any stories with a premise like this is it either goes full "humans are secretly the most terrifying race in all existence and can literally breath fire" or completely in the other direction with "humans are pretty much the single most retarded thing in the universe and it's a miracle they haven't drown on their own spit." There's never a middle ground.

>> No.15639670

>>15639548
Well I want humans to die, so what you expect? If the aliens come I will willingly help them slaughter humans, before killing myself so their majestic hands wouldn't have to touch the filth that is human.

>> No.15639680

>>15639072
I found it shallow and pedantic

>> No.15639682

>>15639610
Stop speed reading, and pay attention to your

>> No.15639689

>>15632354
If your looking for sci-fi with drug use try some Philip k dick

>> No.15639697
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>>15639670
>Well I want humans to die, so what you expect? If the aliens come I will willingly help them slaughter humans, before killing myself so their majestic hands wouldn't have to touch the filth that is human.

>> No.15639699

>>15639462
https://creepypasta.fandom.com/wiki/Mankind
I kind of like this one, it's from /tg/.

>> No.15639720

So I started reading dune and I'm 30 pages in, and while I like the world building I'm having troubles remembering all these foreign names and political factions. Does it get easier as I go on or should I start writting things down?

>> No.15639721
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15639721

>>15639697
Wrong pic.

>> No.15639741

>>15639720
You eventually start getting it as you go, most the important concepts are repeated again and again and the unimportant ones only show up one or two times before never being mentioned again.

>> No.15639747

>>15639697
So anyone who has a disgust of humans is an underage b&? I hate humans and would happily kill myself, but I want to take as many with me as possible. Can't wait till trump starts wwiii. I hope he wins at the end of the year, he was nearly successful in starting it at the start of this year.
Just imagine human wiped out. Such baseness.

>> No.15639806

What are all of you wearing?

>> No.15639815

>>15639806
Shit reading****
I need sleep

>> No.15639825

>>15639806
T-shirt and shorts, it's hot as fuck today.

>> No.15639886

>>15639689
Is that the 'dreaming about robot sheep' one?
May give it a go.

>> No.15639902
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15639902

>>15638747
Fuck elves.

>> No.15639909

>>15639747
Pretty much yes.
Also a bitter loser who didn't get any.

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15639940

>>15639902
Based

>> No.15639975
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15639975

>>15639940
No nigga, I meant actually fucking them.
Proud and noble race my ass.

>> No.15640078

>>15639886
That's the one, though if you want the more druggy stuff try a scanner darky, the three stigmatas and once your more familiar with his work go through his semi autobiographical work valis.

>> No.15640098

I didn't know the movie bicentennial man was based on a book. I love tech that gives robots the ability to imitate like.

>> No.15640115

>>15639902
Wtf is wrong with her navel?

>> No.15640146

>>15639975
Is that another eric vall cover, coomer anon?

>> No.15640149

>>15639975
Sex is temporary. The joy of an elf-free world is forever.

>> No.15640150

>>15640078
>a scanner darky
That doesn't seem like a PC title.

>> No.15640160

>>15639825
I haven't worn trousers or socks since like february because of heat and quar

>> No.15640187

>>15640149
The world exists because of temporary pleasures.

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>>15640146
No that's actually a work by an artist Kyuyong Eom. His work reminds me of Olivia De Berardinis, not that you would know anything about it.

>>15640149
>Sex is temporary.
You just have to, you know, keep doing it.

>> No.15640353

>>15638747
>Fuck magic systems
Isn't magic cool though?

>> No.15640409

>>15640353
anti-magic systems typically means you're against magic being turned into an anime style powerlist with rigid defined rules and categories.
At least that's what it usually means when people post about it here

>> No.15640441

>>15640353
Magic is cool when it's mysterious and sparse. Turning it into a system makes it not mysterious. Mind you there are levels to that. On the one hand you have something like ASOIAF or LOTR, where magic is somewhat rare, and can range in power between really crazy strong and not all that strong. In the middle is something like Harry Potter, magic is prevalent and powerful and though there are rules we usually only find out about them after the fact. On the far side is basically any Dungeons & Dragons novel. Skilled wizards get four level 5 slots per eight hour rest assuming they have time to study their spellbook for an hour.

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>>15639940
Is this how you see yourself?

>> No.15640625

>>15639689
Man in High Castle any good?
I sort of remember the TV show being alright until it just because very pander-y.

>> No.15640652

>>15640625
The book sucks.

>> No.15640673

>>15639680
Mm shallow and pedantic, yes

>> No.15640706

>>15639427
"The State of the Art" by Iain M. Banks
the aliens resemble humans and are incognito

>> No.15640736

>>15640313
You posted a drawing by them before that eric vall or who ever write succubus lord uses.

>> No.15640746

>>15640441
All the examples of magic you gave are boring as fuck. Especially that last one
>time slots for magic
kys

>> No.15640749

>>15640736
>them
Him you English butchering hack.

>> No.15640753

>>15638747
Based

>> No.15640888

>>15640749
You can use them in a sentence if you are unsure if someone is male or female. Seeing as I don't speak chink, I don't know if that name is male or female, like I would know in English from Peter and Jane, I called them, them. Also seeing as most of the tumblr artists are females, I'm not taking your "his" in your post as a confirmation.

>> No.15640901

>>15640888
No you can't you politically correct fuck.

>> No.15640950

Hard magic is for people who want videogame-tier writing or a D&D campaign in book form.

>> No.15640952

>>15640746
>doesnt provide a counter example
Shit case, shit taste

>> No.15640956

>>15640901
>sjw have settled in your brain rent free
Sad. So if you hear a word that can be used for both male and female, you automatically think politically correct panderer? So "them" can't be used anymore, according to you? Like how gay no longer means happy.
Sad you have tranny on your brains rent free, anon.

>> No.15640963

>>15640956
>trannies outta fukinn nowhere
You taking your estrogen son?

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>>15640956

>> No.15641019

>>15640952
Why do I have to provide counters? I read all the shit he posted and the magic was horrible. You fucks wonder why Sanderson got popular. It's because he made magic fun, not that boring "roll to do magic" shit in d&d, and not the barely show it in the case of lotr or GURM. That's why so many people are writing like Sanderson and making bank. No one but people who hate fantasy want vague notions of magic that might not even be there.
You have no tastes at all. You grew up on lord of the shit and only read that shit continually. Seeing something new has got you scared, and threatens your precious frodo and fagdalf.

>> No.15641032

Christopher Paolini had the best magic system.

>> No.15641079

Soft magic is for people who lack imagination and want asspulls or sad people that don't actually want fantasy and look for the real world in book form.

>> No.15641117

>>15640963
>outta fukinn nowhere
If you didn't get what he was getting at, then you need to leave lit, because you can't read, nor suss out hidden meanings.

>> No.15641120

Hard magic is for autists who were bullied in highschool and need to know exactly how many minutes it will take them to learn Fireball (level 1)

>> No.15641131

>>15641120
>and need to know exactly how many minutes it will take them to learn Fireball (level 1)
wtf? Confirmed as someone who doesn't actually read fantasy.

>> No.15641157

>>15640442
Nah, it's just a random picture I found on /k/ that I enjoy because fuck knife ear fucking shits

>> No.15641211

Do people really like hard magic systems?

Most of the authors who do that, usually have a lot of deux ex machina anyways

>> No.15641352

>>15641032
I'm interested in his upcoming sci-fi book and his new FTL-system that took him months to come up with.

>> No.15641376

>>15641211
Writers seem to like them more than readers

>> No.15641386

>>15641211
World building autists are legitimate autists who can't focus on the story and characters an obsess over the minutia surrounding it

>> No.15641586
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15641586

Just finished the first book. When were the lady and all the taken awakened in relation to the start of the book? The domination was supposedly centuries ago, and I don't really get how the lady was able to start up and establish a massive empire so quick. Who was controlling all that land before the awakening? I got the impression that the awakening was a very recent thing that occured at the start of the book.

>> No.15641599

>>15637414
Reddit loves the Vorkosigan Saga. That should have given you a hint right there.

>> No.15641611

>>15641586
72 years between Lady being unearthed and the start of Book 1 according to the wiki timeline

>> No.15642219
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15642219

What am I in for?

>> No.15642288

Could a Sardaukar form Dune defeat a Dothraki?

>> No.15642308
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>Rereading Dune
>Feel weird because Baron Harkonnen ends up feeling like the most human character simply because he doesn't seem to be some uber human who can learn every single aspect of another human being from a single expression and has to tailor everything he says to have 17 different subtle meanings for other near super humans to digest
I love how weird and alien everything feels but god damn a lot of the characters are hard to relate to.

>> No.15642322

>the dune fags have returned

>> No.15642329

>>15642308
>but god damn a lot of the characters are hard to relate to.

I'm reading for my first time now, and Leto is actually a really relatable and oddly likeable Duke. His reaction to the Hunter-Seeker trying to kill Paul was really down to earth. He didn't try to posture or save face; he was visibly fucking pissed.

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>>15642322
>implying we leave in the first place

>> No.15642369

>>15642329
Yeah, Leto was pretty chill but unfortunately he dies right away.

>> No.15642383

>>15642369
Welp, thanks for spoiling that.

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>>15642383
You're welcome!
Seriously though it happens like a chapter or two after the Hunter-Seeker so I thought you already got to that point, sorry.

>> No.15642398

>>15642391
I just got to the part where the sandworm devoured the spice harvester and they just barely got away on the ornithopter.

>> No.15642412

>>15642398
Ah-h-h-h, I see.
Yeah, it happens like right after that, the chapter after the next actually, I just checked.

>> No.15642421

>>15642412
Aah right on. Cheers.

>> No.15642468

Why does /sffg/ hate Abercrombie's stuff?

>> No.15642474

>>15642468
book 3 of first law is bad and most people never gave him another shot after that

>> No.15642484

>>15642474
That I get, and ALH is pretty eh. Standalones are based as hell though.

>> No.15642667

>>15642468
Because he's a hack. He fumbled his way to success, but can't maintain it.

>> No.15642738

Is Logan Jacobs a bot?

>> No.15642815

I need a name for a blind radio nerd who can see through radar. east-asian last name, western first-name

>> No.15642820

>>15642815
Dick Wang.

>> No.15642878

>>15642738
No just a poor writer who can churn out books once or twice a month. Him and Eric Vall are probably some of the worst authors out there. Even for smut.

>> No.15642926

>>15642308
Alien? That's like bedouin lifestyle :) It's Middle East.

>> No.15642989

>>15642878
>once or twice a month
he writes like close to 6 books a month.

>> No.15643032

Any good non-American non-British authors to look into? I’m teaching a world literature course in the near future based on fantastical fiction and I’ve already got a solid amount of mythology and magical realism, but I want to dive into sci-fi and fantasy a bit more. I’ve got Frankenstein down as a potential text, but was hoping there’s some good short stories from various cultures.

>> No.15643075

>>15643032
Not really authors so much as specific books, but Roadside Picnic and Solaris are pretty much the quintessentially Eastern European sci-fi novels.

>> No.15643615
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To the anon who recommended me pic related. Fucking thank you. It reminded me of the emotional punches that Malazan Book Of The Fallen gave me except not as long or tiring to get to. Good enough humor and interesting world lore.
I liked the fact that it didn't shy away from being graphic and vulgar almost but it worked well and didn't seem like it was over doing it to be just to be edgy. The world itself was fucking brutal with fresh takes on tropes and it kept me hooked.

I genuinely fucking love this book, it's a bit unpolished and it's a little rushed at the end that left me wanting a bit more but even then it's worth a recommend to everyone here.

>> No.15643709

>>15637518
Yes with caveats. It's transparently derived from somebody's GURPS game and there are some books that aren't good (the one with the planet with the slugs) but it's a solid space opera series with a "hard" SF gloss.

>>15637615
Further the authors... infatuation with Amos raises a eyebrow.

>> No.15644146

>>15642989
Based. Has anyone read enough of them to tell if the style is self-consistent? It could be a brand name a group of semi-respectable authors use to peddle smut.

>> No.15644201

>>15643032
Borges, Strugatskis, Lem.

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15644248

Greg Egan's short story 'Silver Fire' is a pretty relevant - pandemic, contract tracing, some affluent members of society form small "microvillages", fringe thoughts about the virus, etc..

http://fennetic.net/irc/Silver_Fire___Greg_Egan.pdf

I e-mailed him asking him to post this for free to his website but he said no :(

>> No.15644320

>>15643615
I don't wanna fuck fish women, anon, so that is a pass for me.
A real mermaid would be bald, and have skin like a dolphin / manatee, so as to survive being submerged for long periods of time in water. Do you see what happens to your skin if you swim for too long?

>> No.15644327

>>15644248
>decompression
What sort of zip program is he running? That it takes huge resources to decompress the files?

>> No.15644418

>>15640625
It's essential if you like alt history. I think it's worth a read, pretty fun book overall, with a fun setting and a few interesting insights, it actually got a few future predictions right things such as legalized weed I'm Cali and our love for nastolgia.

>> No.15644438

>>15640150
Appearing PC freindly want really a thing in the 70's

>> No.15644472

>>15639741
And should I bother reading the sequels? Which ones?

>> No.15644629

>>15644472
Keep going until you either don't want to or run out of Frank Herbert

>> No.15644767

>>15632883
It has but the old threads are mostly up. Search “genre” and plebbit and you’ll find some good threads

>> No.15645019

Nothing fun is being released recently. Only female love shit.

>> No.15645045

>>15645019
Write something fun then.

>> No.15645186

>>15641599
That doesn't mean anything. Reddit loves everything. If something exists, there is a subreddit dedicated to it.
Also, why are you an expert on what reddit does and doesn't love? Hmmm?

>> No.15645235

>>15645186
>If something exists, there is a subreddit dedicated to it
Not trump.

>> No.15645260

>>15645235
This is a joke, right? Please tell me you're joking.

>> No.15645381

>>15645235
lyl

>> No.15645792

>>15645019
2016. Trump killed so much good shit and one of the things he killed was the golden age of fantasy. All the books being released recently were written during during trumps presidency and he's made them mental. Everything they write is a counterpoint to how they perceive him.

>> No.15645798

why make statements like this when you obviously don't read new fantasy there's been fuckall evil tyrant stuff since the election

>> No.15645863

>>15644320
[Spoiler] The story isn't mermaid focused, it's just about some orc trying to figure out who killed it, the main story is about the orc itself [/spoiler]

>> No.15645890

>>15642219
Interesting art. Is it specific to the Japanese releases?

>> No.15646251

If you want to discuss Animorphs: >>>/tv/135390852

>> No.15646355

>>15646251
Nice.

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>>15646251
They couldn't come up with something better?

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>Space Odyssey series by Arthur C. Clarke

Are they any good, or should I just stick to the movie?

>> No.15647355

>>15647344
First two are excellent, the third is meh, the fourth is dog shit.

>> No.15647481

>>15646580
You tempt me to post girls, just to show you what good taste looks like.
But I don't want to shit up the thread more than you do.

>> No.15647494

>>15647481
Like you would know you butt pirate.

>> No.15647510

What are some good novels with an urban fantasy setting? It doesn't matter to me if they use established mythology or folklore, just something which mostly revolves in a city.

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>>15647510
I have it on good authority this one is excellent.

>> No.15647548

>>15647535
>tramp stamp
You just KNOW

>> No.15647573

>>15647535
I need something to read too. So I'm picking this up as well. I'm probably going to hate it. But eh... whatever.

>> No.15647582

>>15647535
>a mercy thompson novel
>a jack ryan novel
>a dirk pitt adventure
I hate this shit. If you're so desperate for your OC to become iconic put their name in the actual title, like Indiana Jones, don't just tack it onto the bottom of the cover. Or write books that people actually recognize. Lord of The Rings 2 didn't need "A Frodo Novel" on the front.

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>>15647582
Come on anon. You are comparing a heavyweight like LOTR to these dime a dozen grrl power fantasies.

>>15647510
>>15647573
This one also isn't bad.
It's about a former lawyer turned vampire.

>> No.15647735

>>15647637
Are you just requesting schlock for shits and giggles, or do you actually enjoy these books?

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>>15647735
I love 'em. That was sarcasm.

>> No.15647787

>>15647535
>>15647637
>>15647783
These are the kind of books my Mother reads.
Last time I checked her kindle, she had 70+ 'Shade of Vampire' books on there, that she had spent money on.

How do these people even get published?

>> No.15647803

>>15647787
>she had spent money on
There's no market for your weird supernatural sex fantasies, but there is for women's.

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>>15647787
>How do these people even get published?
Your mother, and others like her, pay cold, hard cash for them.
It's a rather lucrative market.

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>dad walks in

>> No.15647846

>>15647783
Can you recommend something you actually believe in? I'm looking for something good.

>> No.15647858

>>15647637
>so fucking skinny
She needs a burger or two. With those hungry skeleton 13 year old boy looking legs.
A Huntress should have the thighs to snu snu you.

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>>15647846
Urban fantasy isn't exactly known for it's stellar quality in general. Plus it's really not my cup of tea.
That said I did like The Brotherhood of the Wheel by R.S. Belcher. At least the first few books before I lost my interest.

>>15647858
She's a fucking vampire Amerifat.

>> No.15648019

>>15643615
Sounds neat, will give it a look

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>>15647510
Night Watch.

>> No.15648104

>>15647871
>Amerifat.
>not wanting a prepubecent boy with tits makes me a Klappistani
Look. Just because you Europeans like twig girls that look like boys because you're closet faggots, doesn't mean that anyone who nay says you are from Burgerland.

>> No.15648271

>>15648104
Go be fat somewhere else Mexican.

>> No.15648461

>>15648271
>the world is Europe, America and Mexican
I now know you are an american larping as an European. Only stupid uneducated Americans think that the world comprises of Europe, America, and Mexico.

>> No.15648515

/sffg/, I'm seriously going to do it. I'm going to gender-swap a character just so I can make her name a god-awful pun. The wordplay is too perfect.

>> No.15648521

Anyone here done a fantasy writing group before? How did it go? Any red flags to look for?

>> No.15648526

>>15648515
>wrote cringe donut steele magical girl anime when i was 15
>main girl was named mikasa sukasa
Just do it.

>> No.15648598

>>15648526
I'm doing it, though now I might have to change some details.

The character in question is a blind shut-in running a post-apocalyptic radio station. she also has radiowave manipulation powers which she can use to see through radar. I decided to name her Hiki Koumori as a pun on hiki (musician), koumori (bat), and hikikomori (shut-in)

given that I don't speak a word of japanese it took two days to come up with. but I'm satisfied.

>> No.15648787

>>15645863
A story about a smart orc?

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>>15647510
A lot of these turn to shit later because the author had it going on too long. They also wanted to ship for fanservice.

>> No.15648866

>>15648598
No one who isn't a weeb otaku will get it. You will have to drop that tidbit in an AMA.

>> No.15648904

>>15642738
Well seeing as he appeared after Scott Earle was banned, and published more books than Earle in a year time, I think he is a bot.

>> No.15649127

Anyone having sex during this lockdown.

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>>15632247
Finished reading all "The monarchies of God" of Paul Kearney, while the books have many defects and I would have liked more fantasy and less real life parallels and melodramatic twists (notmuslims, notchristians, schism in the church, evil Vatican,the sultan wife twist), the writing was decent, the battles were great and overall a very entertaining reading 7.5 /10

>> No.15649173

>>15649150
>the sultan wife twist
Explain?

>> No.15649214

>>15647787
The Shade of Vampire books (at least the first quarter of the first book(as far as I could get)) are better written than most others I've sampled in the genre. You should definitely feel weird though, knowing your mom is reading books where teenagers are having sex, written from both viewpoints.

>> No.15649238

>>15649173
The protagonist's wife is captured as loot and raped by the notMuslims, she ends up in the sultan's harem as his preferred slave first and then as his wife, while the protagonist goes from being a simple soldier to king

>> No.15649251

>>15649214
Your mother was a teenager once, you daft fool.
Now, if the teens were reaming older women who couldn't keep their cunnies closed, then yes, it would be weird.

>> No.15649274

>>15649238
Losing to cock is a meme, but also a truism. If you give someone dick enough times they will become addicted.

>> No.15649304

>>15641131
His comment didn't really make sense, but the first half of his point still stands. Hard magic is for autists.

>> No.15649319

>>15649304
If the magic has a timer, then yes it's fucking stupid.

>> No.15649329

>>15649274
To make the story even more melodramatic in the last book the protagonist marries the daughter of the sultan and his ex-wife for political reasons while his ex stabs the sultan to death in his bedroom and then commits suicide. The books are good but this part of the plot is kinda ridiculous

>> No.15649367

>>15649329
He gets young cunny, and someone who looks just like his wife. It's a win win for readers with penises.

>> No.15649480

Hot take: smut writers are just failed hentai artists who can't draw.

>> No.15649493

>>15649329
That spoiler is actually based though. Most importantly, the guy is redeemed as a cuck by fucking the guy who cucked him daughter

>> No.15649500

>>15649480
>tfw failing hentai artist who wants to write.
How did you know?

>> No.15649610

>>15649500
draw furry porn. even with no talent you will make bank thanks to degenerate furries with too much money.
just keep your real name away from it.

>> No.15649639

>>15649610
I already do. I'm failing due to bad work ethic. I actually have enough talent to demand triple digits per piece if I wanted. Perhaps quadruple digits if the piece is complex enough. I just have zero discipline and can't finish anything.

>> No.15649721

>>15649639
thats on fucking you then anon.
if you rack disciprine for drawing, you lack it for writing.

>> No.15649744

>>15649721
Well duh, and duh again.
I honestly don't know how other hentai artists aren't more successful. If I had their discipline, I would take over the hentai game.

>> No.15649746

>>15649480
>>15649610
I can draw furry shit pretty decently and I still get more attention on my porn stories than on still porn pics. (Animations are a different story, but also a different level of effort.) You just have to, you know, be good at it.

I don't know why we're talking about this here, but whatever.

>> No.15649830

>>15642468
He writes the same characters 15 different times and they're all shit

>> No.15649874

How do you beat writer's block when you're still trying to get a setting figured out? Everything I can think of writing about feels derivative

>> No.15649975

>>15649874
What have you been reading?

>> No.15650013

>>15649874
>you're still trying to get a setting figured out
Retard
You think of a plot, you sit on it for a while, you take inspiration from things that you consoom or random thoughts that pop into your head. When you come up with something you can tie in, you tie it in. That's your setting. When you feel like you know what it is you're actually going to try to do with the plot, you continue writing. But if you have no plot to start with, you have nothing to connect it to, and your ideas are useless and go forgotten. You can't make a setting first and wind up with a real product. Even Tolkien started with The Hobbit.

>> No.15650063

>>15649975
ASOIAF, LOTR, Stormlight, Planescape books in the past few years, and as a result medieval settings seem done to death so I'm trying to avoid playing it straight
>>15650013
Fair advice, thanks anon

>> No.15650210

>>15644327
universe.exe

>> No.15650249

Are there any fantasy books where the author actually knows his shit about geopolitics and international relations, instead of just having a different generic race and the same monarchy in every state?

>> No.15650477

>>15650249
Ice and fire song

>> No.15650520

>>15650249
Malazan Book of the fallen series

>> No.15650526

Anyone know a series similar/just as good like the Felix Castor by Mike Carey?

>> No.15650819

I am so, so tired of making no fucking progress. This story is just inching along, and I can't even take pride that I'm writing because I keep missing my miniscule word goal

>> No.15650850

>>15650819
Take a breather and let the pressure ease off for a while. You're going to crush yourself under the weight of your own expectations if you keep going.

>> No.15650881

>>15650850
I feel like I'm going to crush myself under the weight of my own expectations no matter what happens. At least when I'm writing I only feel guilty at night

>> No.15650899

>>15650881
Then why have any expectations at all? Just act according to whatever your gut feeling tells you to do and see what happens.

>> No.15650920

>>15650899
the main reason is that my gut tells me "it's hopeless, just kill yourself now and skip the lifetime of suffering"

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>>15650920
I've been there before mate. It's a terrible little thing to have sitting in your gut. I don't know if it will help you, but what helped me overcome that thought was that the future doesn't really exist. It's nothing more than an expectation. Believing the future to be bright or dark are both expectations which can't possibly predict what's going to happen. On top of that, no amount of worrying or fretting will change the outcome. Sometimes things will happen for reasons that are utterly beyond your control.

>> No.15650960

>>15633360
I checked out his excerpts and he writes about catgirls and elf maids. Pretty based imo.

>> No.15651060

>>15632981
So put it put there for free. Stories On Line, Literotica will publish straight sci-fi or fantasy, it doesn't have to be erotica. If you are any good you'll get offers from editors and advice from other authors. Or find a forum that will let you post chapters and see if you get comments and build a readership.
Half the original moderators at The High Road gun forum ended up as paid authors. Larry Correia, LawDog, Peter Grant, Mike Kupari, Tamara Keel & another I can't recall. Its the main or sole source of income for most of them. So a story site isn't the only route.
You can write for yourself or write for readers. If you write for readers you need to find an audience.
If its porn then you can publish it at 8-1chan, SOL, Literotica, Hentai Foundary among others.
If its good and you get a lot of readers you can pull it from the free sites and put it on Amazon.
Some of the Authors at SOL have been successful doing that, others leave it for free but also have it on Amazon, Lulu, Smashword or Bookapy. Those who really like it will buy a copy as a way of tipping the author.

>> No.15651077

>>15633391
So Anhero. If you continue to breath you risk failure, the most basic failure being not continuing to breath.
If you like to write, write. If you seek gratification from being a "published author", with your name in the New York Times best sellers list it ain't going to happen with your lack of self confidence and lack of work.

>> No.15651084

>>15634163
Just do it faggot. No one cares.

>> No.15651090

>>15634866
Thats narcissicism of I ever saw it. So you fear failure so much you choose to fail and thus win by getting (Yous) from people replying to your posts about being a failure.

>> No.15651095

>>15634937
Wen Spencer is the same. She pulls 4k a month from pay pigs on Patreon and stopped publishing books.

>> No.15651125

>>15649214
>knowing your mom is reading books where teenagers are having sex
My Mom generally only reads books about children being abused, or about vampires going to school.

I really don't understand her.

>> No.15651139

>>15637414
GJ&TRQ retconned the whole series. In the books Aral was bi as a young man, but became totally loyal to the 'Admirals Captain' after he met her and unburdened himself of his sexual past and failures before marrying her.
Cordelia had one lover before Aral and was loyal to him till his death. This is reinforced several times in the books, such as the time Vordarian tries to blow up her marriage by telling her of Arals past.
Aral has a jealous streak (murdered his former wifes lover, would have killed her too except she commits suicide first). No way is he letting his wife play.
Both are members of the chain of command, political and military and are not going to get some strange from a junior, even if they swung that way.
Both saw the result of Yuri & Serge's sex & pain perversions and would do everything to ensure they did not get another foothold in the ruling class.
Aral is an Aristo and would only take a lover from his own class. Cordelia is a foreigner and can't afford to undermime her position by taking a lover.
Reading between the lines Bujold has left her husband, moved to Hawaii and hangs out with old dykes and cats and is now writing self insert fan fiction.

>> No.15651150

>>15637728
I'll second this. A lot of fun and one of the few self published authors to be picked up by a MSM publisher and become a NYT best seller.

>> No.15651155

>>15651139
Mirror Dance is the peak of this, but Labyrinth is peak weird sex. I wish she just went on with the weird sex and not the uncomfortable type.

>> No.15651176

>>15638713
>SFWA
The same group that started cancel culture on anyone who wasn't woke. Rabid Puppies rule.

Beta Colony has highly enforced sexual mores. Enforced sterility being one of them. Color coded rings to state relationship status. Enforced govt. Psych arrest and drugging. Just because they allow faggotry and body mods doesn't mean that social control is not pervasive.
Cordelia was a victim of that pervasive control and fled to Barrayer where she was effectively a refugee and chose to adopt the culture to survive, while always looking at it from an outsiders perspective.

Granny Weatherwax isn't sci-fi. Neither of those characters is 'people'. If you tie a sheet around your neck and jump off the roof you are not going to fly. I thought you needed to be told that before you hurt yourself.

>> No.15651180

>>15639305
So its a rip off of Niven's The Magic Goes Away?

>> No.15651194

>>15639806
Tracky dacks in bed.

>> No.15651203

>>15639902
Elves with Tats are orcs.
>>15640115
Piercing plus pregnancy can stretch the piercing hole.

>> No.15651208

>>15640149
The result of sex is immortality for your gene line.
>>15640150
Listening to a darky on the scanner is not the same thing.

>> No.15651234

>>15642288
If you are a woman you can ship them into a bad homoerotic fan fic.

>> No.15651238

>>15651208
>The result of sex is immortality for your gene line.
even more reason to never breed.

>> No.15651251

>tfw started wheel of time because /lit/ hated it
>it's actually okay if I want to waste some time
You people lied to me again...

>> No.15651253

>>15642308
Paul is Muhamad.
Alia is Aisha.
Bene Gesserit are Roman Catholic nuns.
Mentats are Jesuits.
Fremen are Arabs.
Etc.
Its the Crusades in space.

>> No.15651257

>>15642815
Matt Murdock.

>> No.15651259

>read first chapter of 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?'

I haven't ever really read Sci-fi before, but thought I would give it a try, and it's pretty good.
I liked how Dick introduced technology without spending time explaining what it is, or does. The people just use it, and you get the general idea.

Not sure why his neighbour is keeping a Horse in the apartment though. Am I reading a Karl Dilkington story?

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>>15651259
>Not sure why his neighbour is keeping a Horse in the apartment though
That's just cyberpunk

>> No.15651331

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>> No.15651336

>>15651331
>making new general this early

prick.

>> No.15651696

>>15651095
>Wen Spencer is the same
Where is the next Tinker book? There is supposed to be a war.