/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15563581]

Where do I start with Dugin?

[Anonymous No.15563597]

Just as cringe as boogaloo fags, as soon as some gangs start firing on each other these fags will run with their tail between their legs

[Anonymous No.15563608]

I would start with this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivFvhMPfVHw

[Anonymous No.15563610]

>>15563597
It took the FBI to bust up the Black Panthers, anon. Just stfu

[Anonymous No.15563617]

>>15563610
Yeah these arent the black panthers and theyre not coming back this is a LARP

[Anonymous No.15563622]

>>15563608
This looks good. Thanks.
Not even OP

[Anonymous No.15563627]

>>15563617
>Yeah these arent the black panthers

[Anonymous No.15563628]

>>15563581
damn, that trumpbux went straight on some airsoft gear instead of paying off some of that gender studies degree

[Anonymous No.15563892]

>>15563627
Not credible ones. The old Panthers were a well organised group of legitimate people.

These people are larpers, all about the image.

[Anonymous No.15563911]

>>15563892
well said, but don’t ruin that white liberals fantasy, it’s how he gets off.

also, i feel like most gun owners i meet aren’t who aren’t ex-military are larpers as well. they don’t seem like people who would fight for anything, and it seems their decision to own a gun is mainly out of fear. yet they probably fancy themselves a revolutionary

[Anonymous No.15563919]

>>15563892
>image
>public displays of force putting yourself on watchlists and blacklists
>larping
don't be an idiot, larping is without consequence an this is not that

[Anonymous No.15563940]

>>15563919
i'm pretty sure the people depicted are not the type to think too far ahead

[Anonymous No.15564004]

>>15563892
Basically, there's nothing in America but lepers. There is no revolutionary potential in any part of it.

[Anonymous No.15564005]

>>15563940
edgy, kys

[Anonymous No.15564016]

>>15564004
yeah they all seem melodramatic, hysterical at some point, and then broken down into millions of different sects based on political views/race etc

[Anonymous No.15564021]

>>15564005
?

[Anonymous No.15564024]

>>15563911
it's a fun hobby, you should try it. Not everything needs to be some kind of revolutionary or counterrevolutionary choice, this idea that "everything is political" is a liberal myth.

[Anonymous No.15564029]

>>15564005
>that is considered edgy in 2020

[Anonymous No.15564038]

>>15563581
hey girl, is there anything this white guy can do for you? If you know what I mean? Any kind of service I can offer? Perhaps some dome? I would gladly let you sit on my face, for The Cause.

[Anonymous No.15564056]

Learn Russian and watch his lectures on YouTube.

[Anonymous No.15564087]

>>15563940
A lack of organization and planning is a main feature of these protests, which is why they will ultimately end in either nothing or a set of austerity measures.
This is a generation of activists for whom any action at all, especially visible action (especially visible on social media) is the highest priority.
It was so quickly subverted it made occupy look like a high level chess game played by super computers or something. How fast did this turn into a way to justify further defunding, this time of public safety? As if the real negative feature of the police, the surveillance of the unruly population of precariously employed workers and protection of high value investment properties in urban cores, would ever actually stop even if we failed to fund a particularly archaic way of accomplishing those goals?
There's hundreds, thousands of private security firms and san fransisco startups chomping at the bit to "disrupt" the nastiest jobs of policing, replacing boots-on-the-ground asshole cops with who knows what levels of privacy invasion, and zero accountability.
Meanwhile, the most legitimate work of the police- that of intervening to prevent violent conflict between private citizens- will be lost completely. It's already in their ethos- when that one new york bitch called the cops on the creepy autistic guy in the woods feeding strange treats to her dog they managed to edge in this "don't call the cops on black people" platform, which is INSANE.
So after they accomplish their actionism drunken flurry of blows we will have zero public infrastructure for the prevention of interpersonal violence, and beefed up, highly efficient, more cost effective, and even less accountable private infrastructure for brutalizing and oppressing the poor, particularly the urban poor, of whom many are black and brown.
Fucking private liberal arts college narcissist RETARDS.

[Anonymous No.15564101]

>>15564087
and the worst part is it could have been avoided if they weren't such bitchy little afro-pessimists and race mysticalists. If they'd taken some time to read some old dead white guys and fucking think for just a few days, the momentum would not be nearly this bad and we could even be getting some genuine reform out of this.

[Anonymous No.15564102]

>>15564087
this, liberals are far worse than actual fascists and always will be

every day I feel myself Mosleyizing

[Anonymous No.15564111]

>>15564101
>read some old dead chinese guys
Ftfy

[Anonymous No.15564138]

>>15564102
>>15564087
lmao it's fun to watch all you faggots cry

[Anonymous No.15564140]

>>15564102
They're actually adopting some genuinely fascist rhetoric in describing the "black racial consciousness" and "grievances of the black community," not to mention that this is a political revolution (rather than fun break from quarantine) for only the children of wealthy black members of the political class and their white liberal sycophants.
BLM is a bunch of spoiled rich kids. They don't represent the working class. I know the leaders from my town personally- never will you find a more un-marxist, un-leftist, hierarchy-endorsing, meritocracy-believing group of dysfunctional personalities.

[Anonymous No.15564150]

>>15564087
Imagine seeing the guy take a dive to the ground with a blood pack hidden under his clothes so he can claim the police gave him a severe injury and thinking these protests lack organisation.
You think this shit sprang up organically in fucking Japan of all places too, and the UK where the cops don't even have guns?
The WHO only just released the information that asymptomatic carriers don't spread it after all. Right on time to justify these protests. So the lockdown was for nothing and achieved nothing but crippling the west economically and now bringing about the worst racial tension in decades.
Total lack of organisation my arse.

[Anonymous No.15564151]

>>15564138
You'd best start believing in bourgeois revolutions, boy. You're in one!

[Anonymous No.15564156]

>>15564140
>un-marxist, un-leftist
is this a bad thing?

[Anonymous No.15564161]

>>15564150
that's too paranoid even for me.

[Anonymous No.15564168]

>>15564150
>The WHO only just released the information that asymptomatic carriers don't spread it after all.
What?

[Anonymous No.15564169]

>>15564140
>never will you find a more un-marxist, un-leftist, hierarchy-endorsing, meritocracy-believing group
ok so blm is based af?

[Anonymous No.15564173]

>>15564156
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15564193]

>>15564169
Yeah, I guess. If you replace "black" with "white" in their materials you have basically oldschool nazi propaganda.
I'm not whinging like "wahh if white people said this you'd say it was raycissss"
I mean they've genuinely adopted this weird mystical-essentialist view of race and it could go very poorly (most likely nothing will happen and they'll just land the media and academia jobs they're all gunning for)

[Anonymous No.15564195]

>>15564151
>bourgeois revolutions
>You now realize Fidel Castro, Mao, Pol Pot, Lenin, etc. were all bourgeois.

[Anonymous No.15564204]

>>15564195
or, they have nothing in common with these historical actors other than resentment and ready-made justification for political cruelty.

[Anonymous No.15564224]

>>15563581
I want to lick that armpit

[Anonymous No.15564620]

>>15563581
Start with Fourth Political Theory. His English translator, Michael Millerman, also has videos on a lot of his stuff. 4PT.ru has a lot.

[Anonymous No.15564628]

>>15564150
mommy forget to give you your meds? i think shes beginning to get sick of the whole thing

[Anonymous No.15564634]

>>15563622
Don't bother, it's all just accusing Dugin of satanism, which is laughable given the fact that he's a hardcore Orthodox Christian and well liked in those circles.

[Anonymous No.15564641]

>>15564016
spoken like someone truly defeated, writhe for a few more years, then die

[Anonymous No.15564659]

>>15563581
Dugin is a Schmittian crypto-Marxist
A very dangerous thinker indeed

[Anonymous No.15564874]

>>15564024
It’s a larp, and to make up for small dicks/lack of women.

>>15563892
Larping is when you moose your hair up and swing a cardboard sword around. Here we have a photo op of armed novices taking up a cause. Your ridicule shows your fear.

>>15564634
Oh? Hm

[Anonymous No.15565053]

>>15564195
>black pmc liberalism is revolutionary

[Anonymous No.15565071]

>>15563597
To be honest man I've seen enough video compilations of /k/ meetups to believe those dudes are actually down to blast off if shit hits the fan

[Anonymous No.15565916]

>>15564195
>Fidel Castro, Mao, Pol Pot
Rural guerrillas who lived in the wilderness for years rallying the farmers and peasants for war against state power.
>Lenin
Ascetic terrorist who had a distaste for free love, prostitutes, abstract art, and other liberal tendencies.

Which one of these has anything in common with the BLM movement?

[Anonymous No.15566097]

>>15563581

[Anonymous No.15566140]

>>15564005
Wow dude you're a faggot. Why are you such a faggot? Did you get molested by your dad and that's why you're all fucked up?

[Anonymous No.15566144]

>>15563581

[Anonymous No.15566152]

>>15563581
>>15566144

[Anonymous No.15566173]

>>15564087
>There's hundreds, thousands of private security firms and san fransisco startups chomping at the bit to "disrupt" the nastiest jobs of policing, replacing boots-on-the-ground asshole cops with who knows what levels of privacy invasion, and zero accountability.
>bawwww muh private security,so mean, what about the COMMUNITY?!
Detoilet has been revitalized somewhat via Dan Gilbert hiring private security to police everything there, kek

[Anonymous No.15566208]

>>15563581
Holy shit, panthers look based.

>>15566144
>>15566152
Aww come on. And here I thought niggas finally woke up and realized that protesting without militant action isn't going to work.

What do they even got to lose when they are hunted and murdered all the time anyway?

[Anonymous No.15566265]

>>15566208
Yup, a fed operation using actors. What a surprise. LGBT, BLM, etc. Everything is fine for these bank and corporations. As long as you don't mention class. That one is dangerous.

[Anonymous No.15566271]

>>15566140
>"wow"
>"you're a faggot"
classic projection, probably frothing at the mouth for your own father kek

[Anonymous No.15566293]

>>15566144
>>15566152
what do black actors have to gain from this, surely theyre not getting payed big money

[Anonymous No.15566304]

>>15566293
It's probably a few hundred $ per day to go out and have some fun at a protest for a week or so. Why wouldn't they?

[Anonymous No.15566356]

>>15566265
Yeah people always talk about disproportionate racial policing, but actually the main predictive factor for overpoliced neighborhoods is unemployment rate and soci

[Anonymous No.15566365]

>>15566265
lmao what's wrong with mentioning class, what happens if I mention cl

[Anonymous No.15566385]

>>15563581
I want her to sit on my face so bad. I want to be her whiteboi slave that she uses to squirt on before going to smash le fash. Fucking hell just imagine that face coming home and telling u to kneel and give her head.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15566409]

>>15566152
Damn.
To my thinking, this just reinforces my FBI theory

[Anonymous No.15566421]

>>15563892
They actually are larping, though: https://twitter.com/WolfTheRed/status/1270370955160883207

Most of the people in the photo are actors and models

[Anonymous No.15566467]

>>15566365
Talking about class might make you realize that the problem goes far beyond racism. Obviously minorities get fucked harder in an unfair society but it's not like poorfag crackers are treated much better.

Not like drawing attention from class is surprising when it comes to the state or corporation but this time even journalists get beat up yet still just parrot the simplistic version.

[Anonymous No.15566476]

>>15566421
>Úlfhéđnar. Norse Heathen. Polytheist. Gothi. Father. Biker. Protector. Friend. Ally. Guide. Fierce. Loyal. Kind. Ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.15566491]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkWxEeoRAdY

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15566506]

>>15566467
Appalachian lives matter.
The labor movement goes on.
The neighborhood movement needs some traction though.

[Anonymous No.15566509]

>>15566476
odd, pagans on 4chan told me only Christian whites engaged in cucked behavior.

[Anonymous No.15566521]

>>15563581
Why do white leftists/liberals idolize a group of black supremacists? Can someone explain to me the mindset?

[Anonymous No.15566530]

>>15566144
>they are cosplaying activists
that's hilariously ironic
>for the first time
freudian slip

[Anonymous No.15566539]

>>15563919
that's larping in the 21st century you half-wit, here in Poland we have disorganised antifascist groups that consist of upper middle class philosophy students and onions fanatics who get arrested within 5 minutes of their laughable """protests""" without any resistance because apparently in this community it's cool and "hip" to get arrested for doing nothing
>>15564087
this guy gets it, compared to the shit happening right now Occupy was a fucking October Revolution

[Anonymous No.15566541]

>>15566521
>Why do white leftists/liberals idolize a group of black actors larping as 60's era extremist? Can someone explain to me the mindset?
ftfy

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15566542]

>>15566521
They were a socialist movement. You’re regurgitating liberal smears

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15566548]

>>15566541
I believe he meant the original real deals

[Anonymous No.15566552]

>>15563919
>>public displays of force putting yourself on watchlists and blacklists
>blacklists
Sweetie we don't use that term anymore.

[Anonymous No.15566556]

>>15566509
both do

>t. freestyle deist

[Anonymous No.15566558]

>>15566542
Theres nothing preventing a socialist movement from being a racial supremacist one as well. You can look at the EFF in South Africa as a prime example of that.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15566570]

>>15566558
Depends on the validity of the socialists

[Anonymous No.15566577]

>>15566570
Oh the good old "no true scotsman". Classic.

[Anonymous No.15566578]

>>15566521
>leftism and liberalism are the same
jesus americans shoudln't be allowed to talk about politics

[Anonymous No.15566588]

>>15566556
>freestyle deist
https://youtu.be/ymNFyxvIdaM

[Anonymous No.15566591]

>>15566578
>leftism and liberalism are the same
I never said that though ESL, nor did I imply it.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15566602]

>>15566577
No, I just admit there are some contradictory ass-hats within any group. Actual socialists, the base and overriding idealism behind it, isn’t racist, classist, sexist. They don’t see themselves as a race superior. If you call yourself a socialist and hold those beliefs, you’re a hypocrite. A lying nazi bitch.

[Anonymous No.15566609]

>>15566578
not an american but these days this certainly holds true. even the "NOT A LIBERAL" leftists are usually just a toned down version of your run off the mill green haired sjw tranny.

[Anonymous No.15566733]

>>15566506
>>15566542
Based.

[Anonymous No.15566747]

>>15566577
>implying the differences between socialists, marxists, commies and liberals aren't huge
Like come on, even if you hate them all equally, you can't deny they usually spend more time opposing each other than dealing with rightwingers.

[Anonymous No.15566825]

>>15564874
cope

[Anonymous No.15566895]

>>15563581
The Foundations of Geopolitics.

[Anonymous No.15566919]

Am I the only one that sees any public action as a LARP? Everything people do in public seem to be like they're just acting out a role the saw in a movie or someother media. It disgusts me.
Am i ill?

[Anonymous No.15566936]

>>15566919
Sounds like a defence mechanism to justify not doing shit yourself.

[Anonymous No.15566983]

>>15566467
dummy, we're doing the candlejack meme but for socioeconomic cla

[Anonymous No.15567060]

candlejack is le ledditors first meme
its was never funny, still isnt funny, and will never be funny
candlejack
candlejack
candlejack

[Anonymous No.15567086]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

>Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics

[Anonymous No.15567087]

>>15566936
nice larp

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15567090]

>>15567087
That’s not what that means.
Have sex

[Anonymous No.15567097]

>>15567090
nice butterfly larp

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15567107]

>>15567097
*spreads wings open*

[Anonymous No.15567108]

>>15567060
candlejack existed before re

[Anonymous No.15567113]

>>15567108
This is tr

[Anonymous No.15567152]

>>15566602
The fuck are you on about? Socialism means a system where the workers own the means of production. You can be racist, sexist, homophobic and still be a socialist.

[Anonymous No.15567166]

>>15567152
>homophobic
In fact, this was a huge component of the Soviet Union.

[Anonymous No.15567178]

>>15567152
Butterfly is a baizuo. See >>15566895

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15567181]

>>15567152
Intersectionalist boobery.
Class struggle meow

[Anonymous No.15567183]

>>15567152
>Socialism means
It depends what era and thinkers you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.15567187]

>>15567181
Meowist.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15567191]

>>15567166
And Castro made a notable apology for that kind of nonsense.
I’m talking about now.

[Anonymous No.15567192]

>>15567152
It's amusing to ask socialists whether they prefer a racist socialist or a capitalist antiracist

[Anonymous No.15567195]

>>15567152
Can't have a classless society if people are discriminated against.

>>15567166
And that, and especially their racism against Jews was one of the factors that lead to the downfall. Once you introduce discrimination, things just fall apart.

[Anonymous No.15567204]

>>15567195
>Can't have a classless society if people are discriminated against.
Go on...

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15567243]

>>15567192
Depends how racist and if they’re tankie, but generally I’d say the former. The latter I’ve seen. Obama. Need I say more?

[Anonymous No.15567324]

>>15563919
It's LARPing.

[Anonymous No.15567331]

>>15563581
>roman salute
N-NAZIS??

[Anonymous No.15567343]

>>15566152
>suspiciously attractive

[Anonymous No.15567362]

>>15564138
Says the crying faggot

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.15567375]

>>15567343
Ironic picture? Fat Albert and the gang are a parody of weird looking regular people

[Anonymous No.15567378]

>>15567204
Go on where? "All animals are equal but some are more equal" is the obvious recipe for disaster. It fucks with social contract too much. Besides, Marx and Engels pointed out how big of an issue racism and sexism are.

[Anonymous No.15567389]

>>15564874
>whites with guns are larping
>blacks with guns aren't larping
Lol ok retard

[Anonymous No.15567395]

>>15567378
>Marx and Engels pointed out how big of an issue racism and sexism are.

[Anonymous No.15567397]

>>15567389
Well, whites with guns at least tend to shoot up minorities or schools. Black people with guns just watch how they are getting fucked by Murica.

[Anonymous No.15567399]

>>15567378
>>15567395

[Anonymous No.15567405]

>>15567395
HOLY SHIT, people a few centuries ago talked differently.

[Anonymous No.15567408]

>>15567378
>social contract
I've come to the conclusion leftists simply don't understand what this is at all. Whenever I try to argue with a leftist about property they say that it requires violence to maintain your property because someone can just steal it. As if people stealing things is supposed to be some normal feature of human society, and it is the violence involved in stopping them from doing it that is the aggression.

They will bring up some edge case like stealing a product from a giant corporation, but the logic they're using applies to stealing anything from anyone. It doesn't break down across the personal/private property distinction they have, you still have to defend your personal property from theft using violence.

[Anonymous No.15567414]

>>15567405
Cope harder.

[Anonymous No.15567418]

>>15567414
Well go on, show where he advocated for killing or at least deporting blacks.

[Anonymous No.15567443]

>>15567418
>killing/deporting an almost non-existent demographic
this is a double digit IQ take

[Anonymous No.15567476]

>>15567443
Doesn't stop from current alt-right to obsess over it. Specially in Yuro countries where any sort of brownies are under 10%.

[Anonymous No.15567492]

>>15567476
>under 10%.
definitely not in France

[Anonymous No.15567547]

>>15567492
The highest estimates are at about 5mio for blacks and about the same for arabs. So we would be still at 15% in the blackest yuro country. Both Germany and UK have way under 5% blacks. UK doesn't have enough Turks or Arabs to make a difference but Germany might count as 7-8% blacked if we count them.

[Anonymous No.15567551]

>>15566421
Source?

[Anonymous No.15567560]

>>15567547
It's skewed towards the young though so it's more dramatic than those numbers imply, if you're looking at the future.

[Anonymous No.15567566]

>>15567547
>Sweden, which also has accepted a relatively high number of refugees, would experience even greater effects if the migration levels from 2014 to mid-2016 were to continue indefinitely: Sweden’s population (8% Muslim in 2016) could grow to 31% Muslim in the high scenario by 2050
https://www.pewforum.org/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/

[Anonymous No.15567582]

>>15563892
just like modern day national socialists right? larpers who only care about image

[Anonymous No.15567666]

>>15567560
At the long, long term future, assuming the development won't change. Not one relevant to anyone alive now, unlike climate change. Which might increase the number of climate refugees to an actual crisis instead of the statistically barely noticeable influx that triggered right wingers so far.

>>15567566
Muslim isn't an ethnicity. Tons of crackers convert to the shit and Islam is one of the, if not the fastest growing religion. Not just because they make fuckloads of kids.

[Anonymous No.15567695]

>>15567666
They're not "crackers", they're effectively another group of people who actually subverted the youth org of the biggest party, advocating against gays and stuff

[Anonymous No.15567722]

>>15567695
based muslims saving europe from itself

[Anonymous No.15567780]

>>15567666
>At the long, long term future, assuming the development won't change. Not one relevant to anyone alive now,
Well no, you will see the effect quite quickly as the population ages.

[Anonymous No.15567804]

>>15563919
>>15564874
this is your mind on leftist cuckoldry fetish.

[Anonymous No.15567816]

>>15567405
we should destroy any statues of/monuments to marx because he was a racist.

[Anonymous No.15567855]

>>15567722
I'm not based and trad in that sense but I would shut pride protests down. The celebration, politicization and deification of sexuality is useless and played out. The party is over
I'm just pointing out that this liberal coalition will be stuck in between a rock and a hard place with these people and the growing reactionary push-back

[Anonymous No.15567871]

>>15567855
>I'm just pointing out that this liberal coalition will be stuck in between a rock and a hard place with these people and the growing reactionary push-back

No, they won't. They will bend over backwards to self-flagellate for Muslims, as they've been doing.

[Anonymous No.15568007]

>>15567816
How does any of it suggests racism? There is no hatred in the stuff posted. He's happy his daughter is killing racism.

[Anonymous No.15568052]

>>15568007
Come to think of it, he was probably more woke than most of the whites posting hashtags these days despite being born in a far more racist world. How many of them would be happy if their kids married someone black?

[Anonymous No.15568089]

>>15567582

Yeah, exactly like that. Was that supposed to be a one-up?

[Anonymous No.15568120]

>>15568007
>>15568052
>this level of cognitive dissonance
holy shit your absolute entire identity is tied up in being a leftist.

[Anonymous No.15568266]

>>15564634
Dugin is a staroverii bent on the occult.
The ROC has condemned him.

[Anonymous No.15568315]

>>15567375
>>15567243
>>15567191
>>15567181
>>15567107
>>15567090
But you don't use your trip retarded whore

[Anonymous No.15568375]

>>15568266
>The ROC has condemned him.
Proof?

[Anonymous No.15568400]

>>15567191
>And Castro made a notable apology for that kind of nonsense.
Lolno: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Cuba#Homophobia_and_labor_camps_during_the_1960s
Stop pretending socialism is about liberal social causes. It never was.
>I’m talking about now.
Oh you mean after the decline of all socialist nations and the label being carried on by bourgeois professional class liberals?

[Anonymous No.15568416]

>>15567195
>And that, and especially their racism against Jews was one of the factors that lead to the downfall. Once you introduce discrimination, things just fall apart.
That's not what happened at all, the Soviet Union was at its peak when it was the most homophobic and antisemitic after the war under Stalin. Liberalization under Gorbachev is what killed it. It was extremely secure under Stalin who was a Russian chauvinist.

[Anonymous No.15568426]

>>15568120
the only one with cognitive dissonance is you
treating everything as an objective in a political war
do you know that the colour black is "negro" in Spanish? now you better go show the world how Spanish speaking leftists are racist hypocrites

[Anonymous No.15568459]

>>15568416
And things were pretty shitty under him. Sure, part of it was due recovering from the worst war the world saw so far and still being on the way of pushing braindead peasants into the 20th century; but his shit also ensured the place remained a backwards shithole until today.

[Anonymous No.15568496]

>>15568120
I'm not even sure if I qualify for "leftist" unless we use the broadest definition possible. Is there a checklist?

"Racism is baaad, kids" is the most basic ass position one can hold and not really noteworthy unless you're a /pol/tard.

[Anonymous No.15568502]

>>15568459
Are you a retard? Stalin's industrialization methods were brutal, but they did bring Russia into the 20th century, which saved Russia from invasion. Russia was able to make a full recovery in just a couple of years despite massive damage. He made Russia a superpower able to compete with the US.

[Anonymous No.15568503]

>>15568496
Racism is true

[Anonymous No.15568514]

>>15568502
Russia could have industrialized under capitalism like many other countries did. The dead were not some price to be paid for a method, they were the result of idiocy and malice.

[Anonymous No.15568607]

>>15568502
> they did bring Russia into the 20th century
Very small parts of it. And even smaller bits of the population benefited from it. While far more than necessary died for it.

> He made Russia a superpower able to compete with the US.
Laid groundwork for it maybe, but Khrushchev did the important bits.

In the end they all failed to push Russian society beyond the basics due their shitty dogma, which party why it went even more to shit after Socialism failed there and is still an absolute shithole, that's barely better than Nigeria with nukes and polar bears.

>>15568514
It probably couldn't most countries that industrialized with capitalism slowly developed a society that can deal with democracy or is getting help with the transition like South Korea. Russia went from centuries serfdom to dictatorship in couple decades , and basically back to serfdom with a few more rights after the dictatorship ended.

[Anonymous No.15568641]

>>15568607
There is nothing about serfdom that is incompatible with industrialization, and Russia had been transitioning out of serfdom for a long time beforehand. Look how quickly Japan moved from a feudal society to an industrialized nation in the Meiji era.

[Anonymous No.15568667]

>>15568641
Sure but what's the point if the population doesn't profit from it? The thought that his country can nuke America might bright a smile to some starving North Korean but it doesn't improve his situation too much.

[Anonymous No.15568673]

>>15568667
I was just saying the industrial revolution in Russia needn't have killed so many of the people.

[Anonymous No.15568721]

>>15568673
Ah sure, then we agree. Though to be fair, while a lot deaths came from idiocy and malice, many came from the shit situation the country was in after the war. The combination of the factors creating a shitty loop might've done more damage than a single variable too.

Say "motherfuckers are starving after the war, so they are complaining, so they get murdered, the problem is still not solved, our attempts to solve it didn't work too well, more motherfuckers complain, more get murdered" etc.

[Anonymous No.15568748]

>>15568514
Not at the same pace. The dead were paid for a method, Stalin didn't just starve people because he was a big meanie pants. He did it because the USSR was exporting grain in exchange for industrial machinery. A cold decision, but he was ultimately vindicated by WW2.

[Anonymous No.15568762]

>>15568607
>Very small parts of it.
Russia had the best possible living conditions it ever had under the Soviet Union, not all of the Soviet Union was the 20's and 30's. It went to absolute hell in the 90's after the USSR fell and really still hasn't recovered. Russia has never been as nice off as the West, but it came closest under socialism.
>Khrushchev did the important bits.
Khrushchev was only working on top of what Stalin had already built and the Soviet Union was able to compete with the US under Stalin.

[Anonymous No.15568786]

>>15568748
That doesn't even make sense. You're killing off your workforce for a short period of shipping grain

[Anonymous No.15568830]

>>15568786
Less peasants would be needed once industrialization occurred so any drop in workforce would be negligible and replaced in a couple of years anyway. Heavy industry was needed before anything else could be produced and the quickest way to get that was to buy from the West with grain being one of the only things Russia could readily export at the time. Russian grain flooded the market at fire sale prices, which contributed to the Great Depression. It was only bad in the short term, and paid dividends in the long term. This was a deliberate move, and it's well established in historian's views.

[Anonymous No.15569325]

>>15563581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8gnjKKkzTc

[Anonymous No.15569340]

>>15569325
What's he saying at the beginning?

[Anonymous No.15569382]

>>15569340
"Suffer with us, die with us, kill with us, sing with us, go with us, disappear into us, keep together with us, fast with us, prostrate with us, disappear with us, love with us, hate with us, to resurrect with us, to enter the Russian Easter, the great flock of Christ. "

[Anonymous No.15569391]

>>15563581
Michael Millerman videos.

[Anonymous No.15569461]

>>15569391
Extremely based

[Anonymous No.15569825]

>>15563627
no he's actually right. They're actors. No actual black panther would be standing in solidarity with a pig--which these people did

[Anonymous No.15570141]

>>15567178
You know no one in China actually uses the term baizou, right? That term was just invented by Western Conservatives. Ask any Chinese person you know, they will most likely have never heard of baizou.

[Anonymous No.15570183]

>>15570141
It wasn't invented by western conservatives. But it was just an obscure subcultural term that people conflated as being part of common vocabulary.

[Anonymous No.15570233]

>>15570141
Yes they do. I've asked actual chinese people and we've had a good laugh about western decadence and weakness.

Stop believing the lefty propaganda that "your side" can do no wrong and nobody criticizes them. The world is laughing at you morons

[Anonymous No.15570915]

>>15563581
Not sure but if ya wanna be like him you finish with Vlad's cum in your mouth.

[Anonymous No.15570959]

>>15563581
https://youtu.be/_LVn5ioNUMs