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15561589 No.15561589 [Reply] [Original]

Heiddegger was correct in saying modern society is inauthentic and leads to a sickness of being as it leads to individuals repressing what they wish to do, and instead act in accordance with what the world as a whole wishes them to do, in effect becoming less than themselves.

Heidegger realized the Neets modern dilemma of societal pressure forcing them to get a shit low paying job instead of relaxing at home spending time on what they actually like

>> No.15561600

You could say that or something similar about any past of future society

>> No.15561634

>>15561600
Fpbp

Chamfort said it the best:

>Men whose only concern is other people's opinion of them are like actors who put on a poor performance to win the applause of people of poor taste; some of them would be capable of good acting in front of a good audience. A decent man plays his part to the best of his ability, regardless of the taste of the gallery.

>>15561589
>Heidegger realized the Neets modern dilemma of societal pressure forcing them to get a shit low paying job instead of relaxing at home spending time on what they actually like

What is up with this generations aversion to work? You get some skills, make use of these for a living and spend your free time in accordance with what you value.

>> No.15561646

>>15561634
>>15561600
None of you have read Heidegger.

>> No.15561811

>>15561646
First post is completely Heideggerian though, dasein's characteristic of distantiality isn't unique to today, and the who of being-in-the-world being Das Man is transhistorically, ontologically and formally a consititutive moment of dasein as such. It's an existentiale and can at most be modified, not removed - this is overlooked by Sartre and pretty much the entire existentialist reception of Heidegger.

>> No.15561823

>>15561589
That doesn't sound like anything even vaguely philosophical. Pure armchair psychology.

>> No.15562062

>>15561589
>instead act in accordance with what the world as a whole wishes them to do, in effect becoming less than themselves
Big self roast considering he joined the Nazi party lmao

>> No.15562080

>>15562062
He never publicly apologized for joining. His belief in the party was authentic, that Nazism would usher in a new scientific Renaissance.

>> No.15562322

>>15561589
read late heidegger and his critique of technology

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>>15562080>>15561589

nothing cringier than enlightened bourgeois longing for science and making people woke and clinging to their fantasy of authenticity.

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>> No.15562532

>>15562412
You'll never be a real woman

>> No.15562557

>>15561589
Do you think the neet's desire to relax at home doing with all his needs being provided for him is authentic ? Without modern society the neet would get killed by predators or starve to death.

>> No.15562752

>>15562557
>Without modern society the neet would get killed by predators or starve to death.
Maybe, modern society's crime is in preventing neets authentic desire to be killed by natural forces as it's a built-in deathwish of weak units.

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>>15561811
You are not saying much, but what are you saying is right.

>>15561823
While OP could have worded things a bit better, why do think philosophy has a certain way to sound like? What the fuck do you think philosophy is? Some song on the radio?

>>15562062
>>15562080
Heidegger's idea of Nationalsozialismus is different from what you refer to as Nazism. While there might be some similarities, Heidegger wanted something very different from what you, or Hitler for that matter, think Nationalsozialismus was or should have been.

>>15562412
Shit take. Shit picture. Just a shitty jewess with a pink wig.

>>15562557
>Without modern society the neet would get killed by predators or starve to death.
Without modern society there will be no neets in the first place and not because they would be killed or starved to death.

>> No.15562786

>>15561589
what is authenticity?

>> No.15562793

>>15562786
The state in which the Dasein is aware of his own death as the ultimate possibility.

>> No.15562801

>>15562776
I am not a Nazi, nor do I disagree that Heidegger's vision for the movement differed from Hitler's. It's worth noting that in the 25 years of the party's existence, a single ideological vision never completely crystalized. The disagreements between Hitler and Goebells alone is evidence of that.

>> No.15562845

>>15562776
How would you define inauthentic and how is it specific to modern society then, any form of society would require some form of self-suppression in order for the group to function, unless we're talking about some utopist infinite resources AI driven world.

>> No.15562875

Spending more time among manure does not make you more authentic.

>> No.15562881

>>15562845
Inauthenticity, according to Heidegger, is due to a fall of the Dasein's being in what is quotidian, in the every day, this is not specific for the modern society, but it's due to the way the Dasein is constituted. No matter where or when he lives, Dasein due to his characteristic of Being-with will inevitably be inauthentic. The point is to possibility of authenticity for the Dasein and here I think Heidegger would argue and I would argue that the modern world inhibits if not straight up tries to remove to possibility of authenticity, the possibility of the Dasein to be aware of his own death as a possibility and thus become authentic. Modern society, compared to the previous forms of society, offers more and more means to remove the Dasein from any understanding of his own Being, of his own existentials and seeks to hide any thought and to "treat" any anxiety regarding our own death as a possibility.

>> No.15562883

>>15562875
Get fucked you urbanite bugman.

>> No.15562888

>>15562881
>The point is to possibility
The point is the possibility*

>> No.15563023

>>15562881
I see, so the neet is less aware that he is cattle in modern society, got you

>> No.15563241

>>15561634
Marcus Aurelius said it best. A simple inquiry into the values of others will show you that you shouldn't aspire to be valued by them.

>> No.15563255

>>15561634
work is for plebeians

>> No.15563344

>>15561634
>What is up with this generations aversion to work?

I was kinda hoping that when I grew up the speed of technology would enable us to automatize most of the essential production and that only a few people needed to perform menial labor. Or in the worst case scenario I could perform work in the same way as my dad did - steady lifelong decently paying job out of highschool with a union covering my back.

Instead the labor market is full of 0-hour agency-mediated services based jobs. I'm really not that enthusiastic about competing with college grads for a grubhub type job where I deliver food to spoiled upper class faggots.

>> No.15563348

>>15561589
martin hi nigger hahaha xD