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\lit\ who is the most based libertarian author and why its murray rothbard

>> No.15456184

Murray Rothbard loved cops. He's neither an anarchist nor a libertarian.

>> No.15456187

>feed me things so I can sound smart when I go back to /pol/

>> No.15456248

>>15456184
in 90s this definitely was the case

>> No.15456283
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>>15456184
>Murray Rothbard loved cops.

Are you certain?

>> No.15456449

>>15456165
Why do the lolberts love deals like NAFTA when back in the 90s those of them like Rothbard were in agreement with paleocons like Buchanan on it

>> No.15456466

>>15456165
He’s a liberal. (Aka neoclassical liberal) Libertarians are anarchist.

>>15456283
*Private security guards

>> No.15456474

Foucault

>> No.15456538

>>15456466
He's an anarchist, read ME&S or Anatomy of the State

>> No.15456568

>>15456449
Rothbard embarked on a strategic alliance with the paleocons because he realised that you cannot convince stupid masses to the libertarian axioms so you have to disguise your ideology as paleocon extreme, it was purely out of Leninist pragmatism, he oftentimes praised Lenin as a practical politician

>> No.15456732

>>15456449
because he thought strategic alliance with far right would be beneficial for libertarianism and also after Buchanan become economically less liberal they parted their ways

>> No.15456742

>>15456466
Speaking as a security guard, it's literally part of my job to call the police if I see anything wrong.

If the police don't exist, what the fuck am I supposed to do?

>> No.15456758

>>15456474
he's one of those thinkers you can't put into right/left wing paradigm

>> No.15456783

>>15456742
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_police

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>>15456165
Rothbard is extremely based but there happens to be an even more based one.

>> No.15457086

>>15456165
Mises and Hayek were both better.

>> No.15457117

>>15457086
Hayek yes, Mises no. Mises is embarrassing.

>> No.15457165

>>15456165
>kikes
>based
Go die in Israel.

>> No.15457167

>>15456842

>A Walking Book of Knowledge", Kuehnelt-Leddihn had an encyclopedic knowledge of the humanities and was a polyglot, able to speak eight languages and read seventeen others.

Based

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15457225

The ultimate question: Who really won?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQnarzmTOc

>> No.15457230

>>15456165
>libertarians and jews
>based in any way

>> No.15457521

All you childish Rothbardians read this: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/robert-anton-wilson-natural-law-or-don-t-put-a-rubber-on-your-willy

>> No.15457543

and this : https://archive.org/details/rollins_myth

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>>15456165
False

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>>15456165
This man was a libertarian before libertarians existed, bask in his basedness
http://bastiat.org/en/petition.html

>> No.15457686

>>15457521
>>15457543
left wing anarchism is garbage desu so is left wing libertarianism

>> No.15457743

>>15457686
muh natural law is a spook you retard

>> No.15457758

>>15457743
brainlet

>> No.15457760

>>15457686
anarchism is just anarchism. to call it left anarchy or right anarchy is just bullshit. anarchists are spiritual niggers. end of story.

>> No.15457877 [DELETED] 

>>15457591
This guy was anarcho-capitalist in the 19th century. Get on my level

>> No.15457888

>>15456742
Call your shift manager and ask him to clock out earlier.

>> No.15457896

>>15457888
So the solution is to just let the bad people do more shit?

Thank god this hypothetical situation doesn't exist, so I can actually do my fucking job and decrease crime in the area by reporting it.

>> No.15457897

>>15457877
post pic

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>>15457591
This guy was anarcho-capitalist in the 19th century. Get on my level

>> No.15457943

>>15456165
>who is the most based libertarian
literally not a single one, in a libertarian world there is nothing that prevents children from prostituting themselves it is the very antithesis of based you fucking 14 year old. Maybe Pinochet because he used it as an excuse to exile political dissidents.

>> No.15457962

>>15457117
>>Hayek yes, Mises no.
Literally the opposite.
Theoretically Hayek fucked any kind of apodictic structure there might have been in economics to then rant about and try to force epistemological issues of other disciplines that had no relevance to his own domain.
Complete that by deficient historical knowledge and bizarre interpretation. Compare Mises' Theory and History and the Ultimate Foundations of Economic Science to Hayek's Essais.
In terms of practical politics Hayek slowly drifted towards principled® true (cuckold) conservatism™, eliminating most of what is radical in Mises.

>> No.15457974

>>15456165
when will anarchists realize that they have more in common with libertarians than they do with state socialists?

>> No.15457982

>>15456187
/Pol/ is libertarian now? Good god, how it's fallen. Libertarians are the biggest enemy to the right. Enemies within the gate.

>> No.15457983

>>15457962
Oh stop, Hayek was an actual political scientist, much like Tocqueville (of which his book borrows its title from).

Mises was a little child ranting about the political left.

>> No.15458054

>>15457225
shit culture for shit head thinkers. I'm not an antisemitic person but this kind of jew should be hanged on a rope.

>> No.15458063

>>15457982
Libertarians are stormtroopers for the right though?
Where do you think American Libertarianism came from?
It was created whole-cloth by an array of business interests to champion "Free market values".

>> No.15458093

>>15458063
What right are you talking about though for neocon/neolib plutocratic types? The modern liberitarian movement was made popular by ron paul and quickly coopted.

>> No.15458102

>>15457983
Hayek is 'serious' in the sense that he's the one you can bring up even in the most compromised circles.
If anything Mises shrieked against Gustav von Schmoller, historicists in general, Sombart, positivists, and Stuart Mill. The only real rant he made about leftoids is the Anticapitalist Mentality.
Hayek is the domesticated, New York Times friendly version of Mises, with much weaker version of all his theories. Just compare the formal arrangement of the calculation debate by Mises (that soviet economists had to finally admit) versus the ramblings about difficulty of computation by Hayek (which completely misses Mises' point).
Mises still made mistakes, like utilit*rianism, but is still above Hayek.

>> No.15458209

>>15458063
Your left right spectrum is fucked. Makes deeper analysis much harder when your definition of right is so close to the neo liberal establishment. Libertarians are not considered right wing by right wingers. Their view of power is naive.

>> No.15458280

>>15458209
You don't get the mandate to decide what is 'right' or 'left'. If anything, those retarded labels for name calling belong to the self identified opposition.

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>>15458280
Someone does and always will; allowing all individuals to label it according to their own taste means that a large centralised power is going to do all the labeling for the scattered people, you naive retard. Libertarians at the bottom of their principles are inherently against authoritarian power. It is not a vague definition of right. It IS the right. You are the one who has a stilted view of left-right who leaves OUT 40% of the spectrum.

>> No.15458426
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No one can stop us.

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>>15458426
hyperbased (hyperpbuh)

>> No.15458456

What changed?

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>>15456165
>who is the most based libertarian
All of them. They were right all along. We should have listened.

>> No.15458482

>>15458426
>cringe, cringe cringe
>based, cringe, based
>based, based, cringe

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>>15458478
It didn't have to be like this.

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>>15458490
We could have stopped it.

>> No.15458559

>>15457974
they'd need to understand their own position first

>> No.15458633

>>15457943
What prevents children from prostituting themselves today? It's extremely widespread.

>> No.15458672

>>15456187
Every /pol/ tourist thread

>> No.15458778

>>15457943
>in a libertarian world there is nothing that prevents children from prostituting themselves

The Rothbardian take on this is that the parents could forbid it, but the child would be in her right to run away and become her own person.

>> No.15458829

Hoppe is pretty based too.