/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15444354]

Has the video essay replaced the essay?

Pic related, and what do you think of the recent video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRBsaJPkt2Q ?

[Anonymous No.15444362]

>>15444354
>shoeonehead is 30
how many litres of virgin blood did she have to bathe in per day?

[Anonymous No.15444365]

>90 minutes of a transsexual talking about internet nonsense

What a world

[Anonymous No.15444367]

video essays = mostly entertainment with some intellectual content for the masses. ultimately a good thing, but if you want to discuss anything more sophisticated you can't put it in this format because people would just stop paying attention. the essay is still superior, and you should try to read writings over youtube commentary whenever it is possible.

[Anonymous No.15444374]

>>15444362
imagine being a youtuber at 30. and being married to another youtube personality. cringe!

>>15444365
the tranny has more interesting things to say than you do, anon!

[Anonymous No.15444377]

>>15444354

> Has the video essay replaced the essay?
> 1:23:00

No, I can probably read the transcript of this whole thing in 20 minutes. Plus I can easily look for something later if I ever need to look back into a text.

Don't get me wrong, videos/audios are cool and everything, but text is great.

[Anonymous No.15444381]

>>15444374
>imagine being a youtuber at 30. and being married to another youtube personality. cringe!
yeah imagine making millions of dollars a year

[Anonymous No.15444394]

>>15444367
I'd rather go to a lecture than read the transcript of the lecture after.

[Anonymous No.15444395]

>>15444367
I agree the video format limits you in terms of sophistication, but you also have to remember that the vast majority of written essays are not sophisticated. When I pick up a think tank journal at the library most of it is your average midwit stuff.

>>15444365
The internet is undeniably culturally important in the 21st century. What happens on the internet might be silly or w/e, but that would just be a reflection of contemporary culture.

[Anonymous No.15444412]

It's annoying when cunts wanna debate in voice, bitch I need time to fucking think, fucking cheap victory seeking sophists

[Anonymous No.15444415]

>>15444354
I think they have a long way to go before they offer any interesting discussion, but it makes sense that visual and aural stimulation would replace raw text in our overstimulated time. It's a lot easier to sit through a video essay than it is to sit and read in silence.

[Anonymous No.15444437]

>>15444412
I agree that oral debate is the lowest form of discourse. But a video essays is not a debate. People have spent a lot of time (usually) writing it, before filming it.

[Anonymous No.15444441]

>>15444354
This is clearly bait to talk about Contra and I hate you. Please, please, just read a book and want to discuss it with the class. No one cares about your internet politics.

[Anonymous No.15444454]

>>15444441
Bait? I literally attached a pic of Contra, and linked to one of her videos. Do you think I'm hiding anything?

[Anonymous No.15444498]

Shoeonhead might be the most milquetoast, mealy-mouthed nothing of a political figure I've ever encountered. shes a male Chris ray gun with none of the charm or talent to make up for the lack of intellectual rigour or interesting perspective

[Anonymous No.15444504]

>>15444454
You’re a dumb faggot who needs to not be a pussy and go to /pol/ if you actually want to discuss politics. I’ve doubt you’ve read enough literary essays to start dicing up formal difference.

[Anonymous No.15444517]

>>15444504
>I’ve doubt you’ve read enough literary essays to start dicing up formal difference.
Maybe that's why I am asking you and not ranting myself?

How is Contra, the greatest video essayist working, not relevant to a post about video essays?

[Anonymous No.15444520]

>>15444498
she can catch some p3nis, though. that + whichever way the wind blows politics = guaranteed success.

[Anonymous No.15444540]

the video essay should replace the essay for film. film writing is garbage and worthless without the visual quote.

[Anonymous No.15444546]

>>15444517
I only recently watched a couple of contrapoints videos and they're more like op eds than what I'd call an outright essay.

[Anonymous No.15444560]

>>15444394
Of course, because the lecture was what was prepared for, and the transcript is merely a record of that. Not analogous to an essay, which is written with a view to be read and studied with care. For any given thinker, I would much prefer to read an essay they'd written on a given topic than to attend a lecture of their's on the same topic.

[Anonymous No.15444587]

>>15444354
No, clearly. Essays are based partially on quality of writing but mostly on quality of ideas. I can name you a lot of famous essayists who couldn't string together a sentence. I can name you no major YouTubers who are bad at making jokes or entertaining. People go on YouTube to have fun; you can't succeed without making good content, not just being an interesting thinker. Thus, the people who rise to the top aren't great philosophers or something but rather entertainers who dabble in the most pseud (if they even try at all) shit possible.

[Anonymous No.15444596]

>>15444587
exactly. it's not a bad thing that they are so popular, but at the same time, they are the popsci equivalent to politics and philosophy.

[Anonymous No.15444602]

>>15444587
>I can name you no major YouTubers who are bad at making jokes or entertaining.

[Anonymous No.15444608]

>>15444602
this image is so fucking epic

[Anonymous No.15444609]

>>15444354
I hope not, adding extra elements only serves to lessen the focus in the ideas and arguments and allows pseuds to define our public discourse more than they already do

[Anonymous No.15444616]

I want to fuck her.

[Anonymous No.15444632]

lindsay ellis makes pretty good /lit/ video essays. any other recs?

[Anonymous No.15444676]

>>15444354
Okay, so the Contrapoints vid in the OP is generally poor quality. They're trying to hit certain dramatic beats, and there's not a lot of good establishment of ideas and support or discussion of those ideas. It's very thin. I would say it's clear where they're passionate as the quality is suddenly better when they're talking about trans or feminist stuff. When it comes to navigating social dynamics it's clear they find it a little alien and more or less fall back on a kind of tall poppy attitude. Some of the evidence, like fat people cringe, is misrepresented. Some of the ideas established at the start are poorly conceived and glossed over. Could have done with being about 1/3 of the length and, if it were to be an essay, bit more research outside of "I member Youtube".

[Anonymous No.15444729]

>>15444632
>/lit/ video essays
They're not /lit/ but they are generally decent video essays. Machinist youtube has some decent ones, Machine Tech Video Blog is doing a good series atm, but they don't post quickly. I enjoy Technology Connections.

[Anonymous No.15444738]

>>15444676
>They're trying to hit certain dramatic beats, and there's not a lot of good establishment of ideas and support or discussion of those ideas

yeah her attempt to give some sort of an academic framework for cringe fell a little flat for me, but i found the rest of it vaguely interesting and entertaining enough. contra definitely has better videos.

[Anonymous No.15444741]

>>15444616
Me on the bench

[Anonymous No.15444759]

>>15444738
I'm in the same boat. It's like second order drama (drama about drama) with a little social commentary here and there.

[Anonymous No.15444763]

>>15444354
>>15444616


I love her exaggerated feminine features and proportions, combined with a delicate but very simian facial appearance.

It makes he seem hot, but also really fucking stupid. And stupid = accessible (easy to manipulate and posture towards), submissive (she cannot ever rely on her own judgement calls over your own).

[Anonymous No.15444773]

>>15444763
bruh

[Anonymous No.15444782]

>not using invidio.us
anyone else think someone is paying these e-celebs to go left?

[Anonymous No.15444818]

>>15444738
>contra definitely has better videos.
I've not seen much, but I felt they were doing something interesting in how they engaged in the discourse that existed in whatever way certain online communities talked about it.

[Anonymous No.15444821]

>>15444616
So she a lefty now?

[Anonymous No.15444825]

>>15444782
Give me some context

[Anonymous No.15444846]

>>15444354
Trannies get the rope

[Anonymous No.15444891]

>>15444846
Bondage?

[Anonymous No.15445063]

>>15444846
you think you're a man

[Anonymous No.15445075]

>>15444825
>shoeonhead
>hunter avalon
>that voosh is totally making me question my world view

[Anonymous No.15445367]

>>15444374
Those 30-year-old YouTubers earn a lot more than wage slaves (i.e., average people) and actually enjoy their work.

[Anonymous No.15445700]

>>15444616
god i wish that was me

[Anonymous No.15445871]

I remember when she was around on the Boxxy fan chans.

[Anonymous No.15445887]

>>15444741
Lovely dress, ma’am

[Anonymous No.15445888]

>>15445367
So does your mom, but that doesn't mean she needs to keep sucking all the dicks in the neighborhood to pay off her mortgage. Everyone needs to find a real job eventually.

[Anonymous No.15446283]

>>15445888
What is a real job and what makes it valuable?

[Anonymous No.15446656]

>>15446283
It has to be a job like what my dad gave me, but you actually have to work at it and ideally it should be lower paid and less authority than my job.

[Anonymous No.15446669]

>>15444354
>Has the video essay replaced the essay?
When has anyone read essays? The video essay far eclipses any similar written product.

[Anonymous No.15446684]

*tap*

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and a special hello to janny for monitoring this thread, ensuring nobody says mean things about his favorite eceleb tranny, thank you for your service!

[Anonymous No.15446685]

>>15446669
>When has anyone read ...?
This is the cancer killing /lit/

[Anonymous No.15446686]

>>15444354
Not literature. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.15446692]

>>15446685
It's not like /lit/ has ever read.

[Anonymous No.15446693]

>>15444632
She is good