/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15438810]

There is absolutely no way that any /pol/tard has sat and read this book cover to cover. It is in near direct opposition with all superficial beliefs that they hold dear.

Evola is rolling in his grave seeing his magnum opus included with such works as Bronze Age Mindset, Might is Right, Way of Men, etc.

[Anonymous No.15438833]

Who cares, he's just as cringe

[Anonymous No.15439071]

You’re right but after diving really deep into Evola for about a year, I’ve come to the conclusion that his stuff is just as foolish and cringe.

[Anonymous No.15439119]

>>15438810
>24 KB JPG
>There is absolutely no way that any /pol/tard has sat and read this book cover to cover

Im sorry OP just because you have reading comprehension problems doesn't mean the rest of the world does

[Anonymous No.15439204]

>>15438810
Fuckers in /pol/ recommend Evola because they namedrop (i'm talking about the majority of the board's demographic that is incredibly retarded) writers they've seen somewhere in a chart thread about wypipo things and never cared to go deeper. Also Evola is stupid.

[Anonymous No.15439365]

>>15438833
*dies from opium overdose*

[Anonymous No.15439389]

They literally like him for the titles of his books. That's it. It's the same shit with Spengler.

[Anonymous No.15439417]

>>15439365
America has an opium problem, Afghanistan doesn't, it just exports

[Anonymous No.15439511]

>>15438833
>>15439071
>>15439204
Is this the same three people in every thread? It's getting as boring as it's probably intended to be.

[Anonymous No.15439531]

>>15439389
this. 90% of the people who have purchased an evola book in the last decade have only made it through a dozen or so pages into before leaving it on the shelf with their other epic white guy books

[Anonymous No.15439590]

>>15439071
>>15439511
I haven’t been on this board in months

[Anonymous No.15439593]

>>15438810
I read it when I was 17 when I went through my /pol/ phase. They recommended it to everyone and ironically enough it helped me see how stupid nationalism is, especially considering he dedicates a whole chapter to shitting on nationalism. I was expecting an edgy political commentary and instead encountered a deeply esoteric book. I too doubt /pol/ has actually read it.

[Anonymous No.15439753]

>>15439389
redpilled. they like how the book looks in their epic stack and then read Evola's wiki page and praise him

[Anonymous No.15440318]

>>15439531
>>15439753
i read it cover to cover and i'm a /po/tard fellow traveller. It goes to shit like 100 pages in once he starts the autistic comparisons between vedas and medieval europe

[Anonymous No.15440325]

>>15440318
There is nothing wrong about such comparisons. Sounds like you just got filtered.

The real wacky part of the book is when he claims that there was some secret race of white people from the hyperborea that were behind all the greatest civilizations.

[Anonymous No.15440338]

>>15439593
All groups of people are not compatible. This is why you need nationalism and borders. It has always been this way and will always be in the future.

[Anonymous No.15440347]

>>15440338
Nationalism is purging all the different cultures within a state so that only one remains. It's not traditional at all.

[Anonymous No.15440362]

>>15440325
so he was a racist akin to pol then? lol thought you guys were saying he was a race-blind esotericist

[Anonymous No.15440372]

>>15440362
Just read the book
Also don't say say "you guys." I am an individual. I am not speaking on behalf of any group.

He is definitely racist and I don't think anyone has ever said otherwise, but it in a weird way. It isn't biological racism and he explicitly states that he doesn't care much about that sort of stuff. He thinks different civilizations have spiritual power to them.

[Anonymous No.15440388]

>>15440325
>there was a secret race of people from Hyperborea

This will only become more and more obvious as time continues on. Evola didn’t know about the Greenland impact crated that we just learned about in 2013. Evola didn’t know about the Piri Reis map, and many of the lost artifacts that have recently resurfaced.

[Anonymous No.15440395]

>>15438810
Is Revolt better/important than Ride the Tiger? I'm thinking of starting with the latter. Also, Evola has a very interesting critique of Guenon and vedanta. In many ways I see Evola's prescriptions as more relevant today.

[Anonymous No.15440403]

>>15440372
yeah I know he says the race of the spirit is only partially preserved in the race of the blood right around the time it turned away from primeval metaphysics to historical fanfiction. though the grail parts were kinda neat

[Anonymous No.15440450]

>>15440388
Elaborate on this.

[Anonymous No.15440460]

>>15440395
If you haven't read either how do you think Evola is relevant today lol. I wonder what you think his "critique of Guenon and vedanta" to be without reading either book. He doesn't even really critique them in the first place, just tries to argue that action is more important than contemplation from all his influence from Nietzsche.

[Anonymous No.15440532]

>>15440338
>you need nationalism and borders
>It has always been this way
The nation state and nationalism didn't exist until the French Revolution, they're both spooks invented by bourgeois intellectuals. Prior to that you had heterogeneous populations living in the same kingdom, such as in Spain or Hungary. The only time there was disorder was when there was an outright violent conquest of another ethnic group, but majority of the time these groups were united around a common faith under the same crown.
>Borders
Borders didn't exist in many cultures such as in Mesoamerica or Negro areas, so it hasn't always been this way. Even if we accept the concept of borders, they by no means have to be split among ethnic boundaries. The only reason we have these problems is because retards care about muh culture and muh people.

[Anonymous No.15440541]

>>15440460
https://evolaasheis.wordpress.com/2018/03/01/a-controversy-about-the-vedanta/

[Anonymous No.15440767]

>>15440532
yes, natural mixing at the boundaries of various states is the same thing as mass movements of people and forced integration

[Anonymous No.15440857]

>>15438810
/pol/fag here, I was memed into buying it after hearing people endlessly praise Evola. No one reads that shit and takes it seriously I’m convinced. Traditionalism is retarded and is a cringey form of syncretism that claims to understand religious traditions better than the practitioners themselves. Tradfags will deny this but it’s all cope. Evola was a nerd. Read Hitler, Mosley, Codreanu and Nietzsche the like if you want actual /pol/ reading

[Anonymous No.15440869]

>>15439389
Spengler is based though, his Man and Technics was spot on with what has happened and will happen.

[Anonymous No.15440873]

Honestly, I grew out of Evola's stuff, but I credit him with opening my eyes on several topics. Before reading him I was more atheistic/agnostic, had almost no understanding of what right-wing politics actually entails (even though I called myself right-wing), and in general had almost no understanding of historiography. It's clear that Evola isn't right about everything, in some places he is downright obscurantist, but on the whole, he is a good read in that he expresses very clearly several ideas you literally won't hear anywhere else. If you don't want to read someone like Evola, you can get a lot of his major ideas from Plato. He is a stepping stone to better things though, and he gives you a great bibliography to explore by all his hyper erudite citations. A good place to start if you're looking for alternative explanations for the way the world is. Personally I think he is a more interesting and lucid writer than Guénon. Just one thing: read him, but don't become a cringe autist who adopts everything he says without doing your own thinking. There are already enough people like that. Also, if you read Evola, read Marx too. Read theory. Balance your shit out.

>>15438810
BAP is a retard and always will be. You're right that they're not on the same level.

[Anonymous No.15440890]

>>15440857
>Read Hitler, Mosley, Codreanu

[Anonymous No.15440893]

>>15439531
>epic white guy books
can you recommend me some epic black guy books? for reference, i've already read most of the african literature canon, including:
Crime Statistics and Punishment
Kang Lear
One Hundred Years of Fried Chicken
The Grape Soda of Wrath
A Tale of Two Mudhuts
Blood Muhdickian
A Finna to Arms
Heart of Darkies
Da Bruthas Kangazmaov
Pride and Predjudice (the predjudice part being against NIGGERS that is)
Annaynay Kareninquanda
In Search of Lost Crime
The Scarlet Durag
Jane AYYO
Finnegan is Woke
As I lay Jivin’
The Great Gatt
Lolieesha
Where da Little Wimmin at?
The Count of MLK Boulevard
The Incarceration Rate Also Rises
To the Traphouse
The Call of my Dealer
The Wind in The Ghettos
The Trial (but this time it’s anciry district court and the defendant is BLACK)

[Anonymous No.15440908]

>>15440460
Not him, but IMO Evola's criticisms of Vedanta seem to be predicated on Evola having a bunch of misconceptions about it, which Guenon points out in his letter replying to Evola's charges; and Evola also papers over the fact that to the Tantrist schools power and action are not ends in themselves but only methods to liberation, and also that the moment of attaining liberation/enlightenment in Tantra typically involves a dawning of knowledge which is hardly distinguishable from the same in Vedanta (i.e Pratyabhijnâ in trika = Self-recognition; which Advaita calls Aparokshanubhuti)

[Anonymous No.15440914]

>>15440890
For My Legionaries is unironically great

[Anonymous No.15440921]

>>15440893
AH, YES! Now THIS is a meme!

[Anonymous No.15440984]

>>15440338
Nationalism is artificial shit, the larger people groups become, the more meaningless they are.

[Anonymous No.15440993]

I don't even know how to read. I just have my caretaker read and write on 4chan for me.

[Anonymous No.15441070]

>>15439204
What makes you so sure about that

[Anonymous No.15441106]

Evola was coopted by larping faggots. Evola's worldview isn't even really a racist worldview, so yeah, I doubt wignats read him sincerely or they probably wouldn't shill him. Evola even said a little bit of race-mixing gives new energy to a race. He thought nationalism was preferable to viewing the world was belong to one group, but that's about as far as he goes there.

[Anonymous No.15441132]

>>15440325
Test

[Anonymous No.15441148]

>>15438810
Reading it right now, though only 40 pages in or so. A lot of esoteric writing could be summed up much quicker. So fare each chapter has been a version of
>higher order good and real
>we have lost contact with this
It's true of course, but I'm kind of aching to get to the practical application or suggestion. For what it's worth, Evola does go there while Guenon does not. This is why /pol/ likes Evola and /lit/ likes Guenon.

[Anonymous No.15441186]

>>15441148
>but I'm kind of aching to get to the practical application or suggestion
Might as well stop now then. Evola isn’t practical at all, just like Guenon, Schuon and all of the other weirdos

[Anonymous No.15441226]

nationalists like evola because evola recognizes emergent hierarchy

[Anonymous No.15441446]

>>15438810
I love this book : )

[Anonymous No.15441850]

>>15440325
Which is true, indo European comparitive studies have hit upon a goldmine indicating a source origin of archaic roman/Persian/Vedic/Scandinavian/irish myths. It is unarguable at this point. The similarity between many words used by these widely spread out groups attests greatly to a common origin they all inherited. They all had similar ideas and related words referring to a sovereign priesthood. All that can be argued is who it was. And of course all the self hating whites on this board will laugh at such a unified origin of all the diverse European groups.

[Anonymous No.15441871]

>>15441226
The divine embodied upon the earth.
People on this board complain about/Pol/ as a way of avoiding the deeper aspects of the right. Like when conservatives complain about neo-marxists yet know nothing about them. They are just intellectual cowards.

[Anonymous No.15441902]

>>15441850
There is a lot of stuff putting Indo European peoples as makers of the more extensive megalithic sites throughout the world as well. Evola will probably end up being right as archeology continues.

[Anonymous No.15441920]

>>15441106
They have read him retard. He is racist, he just sees it as having more dimensions to it then just biology/physical. Yes he is right that a completely cut off and isolated people are not strong but rather prone to diseases. There has to be some external relationships, but not excessively so. I dont know what wignats your looking at but you need to find better ones to complain about.

[Anonymous No.15441926]

>>15440893
>Annaynay Kareninquanda
For some reason, this one made me kek the most

[Anonymous No.15441945]

>>15441106
>Evola even said a little bit of race-mixing gives new energy to a race
Into the degeneracy trash he goes, no that I'm surprised though

[Anonymous No.15441949]

>>15441902
Yes but most of these "big brained" anti-racists will never except this until a large centralised power promotes the study and acceptance of such archaeology and comparative mythology. There has been a lot of research though. Do you have any specific finds that I should know about?

[Anonymous No.15442002]

>>15441949
I don't really follow it that closely but a friend who does was talking about genetic sequencing of corpses found in Peruvian megalithic sites. Besides that there was also the sites found on the Azores islands predating any known seafaring civilization.

[Anonymous No.15442553]

>>15442002
Thor Heyerdahl is a man who tried to set sail from one part of the world to other part of the world with a primeval boat and trying to prove that the oceans are high-way rather than blockades and succeeded in proving it.
Gram Hancock.
Brian Foerster.
are ones among the many.
The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident voices. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate.

[Anonymous No.15442758]

>>15439389
It's amazing how people call me out on my bullshit on this site without me ever having to directly argue with them. I really am a NPC, I know this because people bug stomp my ideals.

[Anonymous No.15444016]

>>15438810
I'm not quite a /pol/tard, though many of my beliefs may get me thrown in to that category, but I've read it in its entirety and enjoyed it.

[Anonymous No.15444269]

i'm curious what other individualist reactionary authors and works /lit/ would recommend. "The Crisis of the Modern World" by Rene Guenon and Spengler's "Decline of the West" are on my reading list. And obviously I know about Ted.

[Anonymous No.15444297]

>>15441070
Learn to cut your nails.

[Anonymous No.15444675]

Why are betas seething so hard at this

[Anonymous No.15444683]

>>15439365
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15444940]

>>15441148
The first chunk of the book is a slog but towards the end he draws a good comparison between America and the Soviet Union, and if you didn't read everything leading up to it, some of the meaning is lost due to lack of context. I think it's worth reading like >>15440873 said. He really doesn't have a good "solution" though. His thought opened my eyes to the importance of spirituality, and for that I think it's valuable.

[Anonymous No.15445039]

The Metaphysics of Sex is a masterpiece. All of you gay niggers shitting on Evola are the same as the /pol/ strawmen you're attacking, absolutely clueless.

[Anonymous No.15445244]

>>15438810
Yeah I used to surf /pol/, then I bought this book, read it, and stopped surfing there and came here

Even though the book is kinda schizo insanity It changed my mindset a lot

[Anonymous No.15445719]

>>15440767
Nigga, you were the one arguing "It has always been this way and will always be in the future." and were promptly btfo. Don't try to move the goalposts now.

[Anonymous No.15445747]

>>15440857
Looks like you still need to improve

[Anonymous No.15445754]

>>15438810
Absolutely true, but he is just as cringe as the other right wing trash.
Although he is much smarter than most of the writers the right loves

[Anonymous No.15445768]

>>15438810
Can someone explain to me why this book is so good?

And yes, I read it cover to cover. There are a few good morsels sprinkled throughout such as "power is feminine, in that the more you seek it out the less it comes to you", but most of it is just him talking about gay ass astrology. Why is this book "good"?

[Anonymous No.15445781]

>>15438810
Well obviously Nationalism is essential, and obviously there's dumb redneck equivalents of all nationalism. Even if one sees all problems with his nation it remains a fundamental drive and essential for the most basic things, such as poetry or art itself, or philosophy or a homogeneous group prior to all others. "Nation" is not merely today's artificial nations, it is a collective impersonal identity, like the Nation of Abraham or of Christendom.

I say that it is absolute in necessity for all good things, even if one cares not for the nation, that basic sense of care for those things which we like depends upon it. But furthermore I say it is not only a lukewarm necessity for what is good, but it is good in itself.

[Anonymous No.15445784]

>>15445768
Cring at that telluric mindset.

[Anonymous No.15445813]

Seething hylics ITT

[Anonymous No.15445987]

>>15445784
I mean, is it possible that he is assigning deeper meaning to trivial psychological phenomena that occurs within all primate species?

I am a spiritual person and there is far more to this reality that we know... but Evolva's opinions are fucking gay and retarded, for the most part.

Feel free to change my mind unless you want to just act like a smug fag

[Anonymous No.15446046]

>>15445987
>I'm a spiritual person
>Psychological phenomena

[Anonymous No.15446094]

>>15445987
>Feel free to change my mind
You got me, not at all interested.

[Anonymous No.15446098]

ideological reactionaries dont read
who would have thought?

[Anonymous No.15446112]

>>15440767
>mass movements of people
Do you think whi*oids just spawned in europe?

[Anonymous No.15446123]

>pol niggers who havent read the book
>"based"
>retard niggers who havent read the book
>"pol cringe"
dont comment on shit you havent read, thanks

[Anonymous No.15446127]

>>15446046
Why is the level of intelligence so low here? It's not out of the realm of possibility that spiritual realities and psychological phenomena can both exists.

>>15446094
That's because you're a dumb cretin.

[Anonymous No.15446129]

>>15446123
>le centrist

[Anonymous No.15446133]

>>15440532
>Borders didn't exist in many cultures such as in Mesoamerica or Negro areas, so it hasn't always been this way.

How did you come to this conclusion? Are you saying that there was no concept of tribal control and fealty to more powerful tribes in these cultures?

>Even if we accept the concept of borders, they by no means have to be split among ethnic boundaries.

There can be many cultures living withing the same border, but usually it is the case that they exist as subordinate to the primary culture.

>The only reason we have these problems is because retards care about muh culture and muh people.

It sounds like you have a atomized, utopian idea of mankind that will never be realized.

[Anonymous No.15446135]

>>15446129
pay attention to this post, kids
this is what happens to your brain on politics

[Anonymous No.15446138]

So what does the book defend at its core, can someone give a quick explanation?

[Anonymous No.15446148]

>>15446138
how about you read it, you fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.15446156]

>>15446138
It basically says that races have spirits, and that while people of a certain race can be born with the spirt of another race, most within that race are born with the spirit of that race.

He then drones on and on about gay ass astrology and cities cherry picked examples as to why what he is saying is true, though one could easily find 20 examples of why what he's saying isn't true.

3/10 book, seriously.

[Anonymous No.15446165]

>>15446148
I’m at work
>>15446156
Doesn’t sound good indeed

[Anonymous No.15446216]

>>15446165
It's not. I'm thoroughly convinced that people who take evolva seriously are pseudo intellectual edge lords with no real world experience or education

[Anonymous No.15446445]

>>15446165
>taking the word of some random anon who wrote 3 lines about it and could make up whatever the fuck he wanted instead of just looking at the Wikipedia (lol) page or whatever
ok retard

[Anonymous No.15446515]

>>15438810
They're basically the real life goth kids from south park. They see the title "Revolt Against The Modern World" and take that to mean becoming a nazi just like the rest of the "nonconformists" on /pol/ that have infected the rest of the site.

[Anonymous No.15446657]

>>15446445
Am I wrong though? Is that not the central point of his spiritual take?

faggot

[Anonymous No.15446804]

just read guenon instead, he is evola but not retarded

[Anonymous No.15446812]

>>15446445
Well you don’t argue with his vision much

[Anonymous No.15446851]

This is hurting my brain.

Is there any normal non-mystical centrist/near-center libertarians here who can tell me more about Evola? He seems like he could be fascinating to me in ways similar to how things like Timecube, stupid creepy pastas, or - albeit in a different way - Rasputin might be interesting.

So can I just ask if you happen to know... is this book worth pirating (because something tells me I probably don't want to buy it from the groups that might be selling it...) for the sake of unintentional surrealist comedy or morbid curiosity?

[Anonymous No.15446903]

>>15438810

[Anonymous No.15446929]

>>15441070
Look untouched and unread.
Also, having a full-floor carpet is tacky and office-tier. It's hard to keep clean and even harder to keep looking good. Not good.

[Anonymous No.15446957]

>>15446903
Ironically if you take the fact that the herd is often swayed by feels then it makes you question how much of a role "feels" have.

[Anonymous No.15446964]

The problem with Evola's "audience" is that they're not symphatetic to his mystical-religious worldview – one that is fundamentally based on the Neoplatonic, emenative hierachy of Nous, Psyche and Hyle, the utilization of correspondences and symphaties in ritual and the fundamental ascent of the soul to The One, as described by Plato in the Timaeus.
This is actually the central thought of Evola, and as I remember – in Ride the Tiger, I believe – he states as much: that one must live for a trascendental cause. The politics are just auxillary, in a sense, Utopian wankery.

Now, the 19th century occult revival, starting properly with Eliphas Levi, and forming on the Martinists, The Golden Dawn, Crowley, Bardon etc. was absolutely fucking dogshit compared to the apex of the Renaissance. Still, compared to these, Evola is actually not that bad (I'm talking about the writings of UR and his work on Hermeticism).

/Pol/ doesn't give a shit about Theosis and Theurgy, and certainly not as the cornerstones of a new culture.

What that cornerstone might be for them, who the fuck knows. I think Weininger noticed somewhere in Sex and Character that whenever a group vehemently gang up on another, they usually adopt the characteristics of their enemies.
Hence, /Pol/'s meme culture is violently niggerish, their strategy and cunning Jewish and their values fundamentally Muslim. What a fucking mess.

[Anonymous No.15448011]

reading this for the first time, forty pages in and its so goddamn boring. he's going on and on about the ancient family and the Egyptians and the Indian Aryans. Where is the Revolt?

[Anonymous No.15448135]

>>15440893
>The Incarceration Rate Also Rises
>Da Bruthas Kangazmaov
>A Tale of Two Mudhuts
>Crime Statistics and Punishment

[Anonymous No.15448142]

>>15438810
This book is incredibly boring.

[Anonymous No.15448227]

>>15438810
I love how all the leftists in this thread are trying to reconcile the two notions of this book being too complex for /pol/ and also their hatred of Evola.

[Anonymous No.15448269]

>>15446851
You're a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.15448462]

>>15446138
As you may guess by his seething, >>15446156 is completely incorrect. While Evola did have beliefs about people's spiritual race, the main focus of the book is on "tradition" and the rise and fall of civilizations. What that poster may mean by "astrology" is probably all of the comparative mythology throughout the book (though I get the impression he didn't actually read it).

The very core idea of the book is that our world has actually devolved, not evolved. That a very long time ago humans lived in a golden period (which stories of Eden, Hyperborea, the Vedic homeland/Mount Meru, Aztlan... attest to) and that we are actually in a continuous state of decline since then. Tied in with this idea is the idea of a cyclical history, which starts in a Golden Age, then goes through the stages of Silver Age, Bronze Age, and finally Dark Age (the one we are currently living in) before restarting the cycle. Note that technological progress is not the metric he used to describe these ages, but instead the spiritual and moral development of the times. This ties in with his idea that in ancient times, man was more spiritually well developed than in modern times. He believed this corresponded to many things, but one large one worth mentioning is mythological structure of daily life. A prime example is in initiation, as you would be initiated into a tribe, a cult, a religion etc. He believed that while there were the more exoteric aspects of initiation into one of these groups -the literal actions you perform to become a member - there was also an esoteric, mythological aspect. To be initiated into tribe, you would go through all the phases of Campbell's Hero's Journey (c.f. Hero with a Thousand Faces). Very roughly speaking this entails a bunch of things which an archetypal hero goes through in their journey (pic related), most notably for our case, going in to the underworld but returning to the overworld. This "second birth" played a major role in Evola's ideas about traditional societies; he believed that all men would go through these initatic rites in the old world. As time has went on and these rites are only retained by cults and secret societies, he believed there was a major decline in the spiritual well-being of man.

That is obviously a rough and incomplete overview, but I hope I characterized the book more accurately than this >>15446156 >>15445768
poster. Essentially, if you enjoy comparative mythology I think it's a good and fairly enjoyable read, much better than Huxley's Perennial Philosophy for example. It is extremely well cited, so you can read the source mythology and other works used for his book, as well as see all the interesting excerpts he cites. Evola was absolutely crazy at times (he believed chimpanzees (d)evolved from a human-like ancestor and not vice-versa) but still fun and often thought-provoking.

[Anonymous No.15448544]

>>15448462
Thanks for this. That does seem interesting. Whats the astrology in the book?

[Anonymous No.15449102]

>>15448544
>Whats the astrology in the book?
I don't remember there being much talk about astrology, though it has been a few years since I've read it. Ctrl-f through my pdf copy, there seems to be two mentions of astrology in the entire book:

>"In the domain of knowledge, the presupposition was of a system of sciences fundamentally different in their premises and methodologies from modern ones. Every modern, profane science corresponds in the world of Tradition to a “sacred” science that had an organic, qualitative character and considered nature as a whole in a
hierarchy of degrees of reality and forms of experience in which the form connected to the physical senses is just one among others. It is precisely in this way that the system of transpositions and symbolic and ritual participations was made possible. This was the case in cosmology and in related disciplines: for instance, ancient alchemy was not at all a primitive chemistry and ancient astrology was not at all (as it is mistakenly assumed today) a superstitious deification of the heavenly bodies and of their movements, but a knowledge of the stars so organized as to be able to constitute a science of purely spiritual and metaphysical realities expressed in a symbolic form" (pg 101, first page of chapter 15)

>"Babylonian astrology was a science heavily influenced by fatalism and the belief in the omnipotence of a cosmic law or “harmony,” and characterized by little or no sense of an authentic kind of transcendence; in other words, it could not prescind from the naturalistic and antiheroic limitation in the dimension of the spirit" (pgs 239-240)

This lack of astrology talk is supporting my guess that the guy who mentioned astrology hasn't read the book.

[Anonymous No.15449427]

>>15446964
>the Neoplatonic, emenative hierachy of Nous, Psyche and Hyle

Have fun stumbling trying to explain what that actually means

[Anonymous No.15449560]

>>15440893
Based but you forgot:
>Moby Muh Dick
>Da Jungle Book
>Da Three Musky-niggas
>Lord of the Blings

[Anonymous No.15450429]

>>15449427
I think you need to read more Greek works. Those three words roughly separate into intelligence/mind, soul/spirit, and body. While this is one particular type of tripartite division, the idea of some sort of tripartite division is common throughout Western traditions, whether that's Christian theology, the works of Plato, or the Neoplatonists. The word emenative is weird, but clearly corresponds to the idea of emanation, i.e., that those things all emanate independently from some ground Truth or Absolute reality.

[Anonymous No.15450442]

>>15449427
>>15450429


btfo

[Anonymous No.15450965]

>>15438810
>muh /pol/
Rent free faggot

[Anonymous No.15451062]

>>15444269
Read Schmitt

[Anonymous No.15451114]

>>15441945
pick up a book retard

[Anonymous No.15451431]

>>15449427
/pol/tard intelligence, everyone

[Anonymous No.15452102]

>>15451431
Pretty sure that is the guy arguing that Evola sucks.

[Anonymous No.15452115]

>>15451431
plebbit intelligence everyone

[Anonymous No.15452287]

>>15450429
Alright, for the record, I'm not the one in the thread arguing that Evola sucks. I still think those words don't mean anything. Everyone always says to read more Greek. I've gone through the Aristotelian corpus and a significant amount of Neoplatonism, yes, including Iamblichus, Proclus, etc. I understand the "Neoplatonic" system. However, I don't understand how their concepts correspond to any genuine reality. I think their ideas were conjured up to justify an already present set of pagan beliefs and traditions (esp. Julian and his contemporaries) without much regard to an intuition of genuine reality.

As for Neoplatonism in particular, it's a confused mess of Plato and a skeletal theology of Egyptian sandnigger practices, such as "animating" statues. See Algis Uzdavinys, Jan Assmann, Aaron Cheak, etc.

>the idea of emanation, i.e., that those things all emanate independently from some ground Truth or Absolute reality.

Take this statement for example. Anyone of sober mind who takes more than a glance at its content can easily see its semantically meaningless. If you want to explain to me what this material actually means without appealing to more "Greek" (hah) jargon, I'm all welcome.

[Anonymous No.15452331]

>>15451431
Always smug with you people. You are just the other side of the coin, and not the shiny side. The /Pol/ strawman has lost its value, /Pol/ too has lost its value after this site got hijacked by the gov.

[Anonymous No.15452343]

>>15452287
Reminds me of hermeticism in a few ways. I've been meaning to get further into platonism. I have read Iamblichus. I have algis on my reading list, he worth it?

[Anonymous No.15452353]

>>15452343
Yes. Philosophy as a Rite of Rebirth is fantastic. If you're interested in Hermeticism or even the roots of occultism it's definitely an essential work.

[Anonymous No.15452500]

>>15452353
Cool, thanks.

[Anonymous No.15453040]

>>15452287
>Take this statement for example. Anyone of sober mind who takes more than a glance at its content can easily see its semantically meaningless. If you want to explain to me what this material actually means without appealing to more "Greek" (hah) jargon, I'm all welcome.
When one thing "emanates" from another that mean it comes from that thing. I'm not the OP for the paragraph, but to say those things emanate from an absolute reality means that they all independently come from that. That is, mind, body, and soul are fairly independent from one another but come from the same source. I don't really agree with that, but I think it's pretty clear from the writing.

[Anonymous No.15454239]

>>15445039
Is it really? Wasn't Evola a bit of a sexual degenerate in that he always talked about moderation but then got some rich chick pregnant?

[Anonymous No.15454444]

>>15446929
>It's /v/ermin that are pushing the HURR /pol/ DUMB AND BAD where it isn't relevant
It all makes sense now
CEO > all you fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.15454536]

>>15446929
carpet > wood
It's like you hate being comfortable or something.

[Anonymous No.15455260]

>>15448462
Hey fag, been a while since you read revolt?

He does talk about astrology, CONSTANTLY. Shit like Jupiter in the shadow of Orion's belt constellation over the fire element type bullshit. He also references mythology, but he cites astrology far more often. Stuff like Kali Yuga, which he mentions, is astrology not mythology you fucking dunce.

>reeee evolva is actually just citing save the cat

So, you're saying that instead of reading Evolva's garbage we should just read Campbell and some screen writing books? Wow we finally agree one something

[Anonymous No.15456059]

>>15455260
Alright Shlomo, I'll take the bait.
>He does talk about astrology, CONSTANTLY
Funny how he talks about astrology CONSTANTLY while only mentioning the word twice >>15449102. Honestly kinda impressive.
>Shit like Jupiter in the shadow of Orion's belt constellation over the fire element type bullshit
Lets ctrl-f Jupiter to see if this occurs in the text... nope, 11 mentions of the deity Jupiter and the mythology around him
>Stuff like Kali Yuga
I'll give you a half a point on this one. While the idea of the ages and what occurs in them is mythological, the dates for the ages are calculated with astrology.

[Anonymous No.15456115]

DUDE MAGICKHE IS REAL
ALSO MY THOUGHT DEFINITELY ISN'T A REACTION TO MY RAGING HOMOLUST

[Anonymous No.15456302]

>>15456059
fag, he only mentions the word astrology "twice" because all he talks about is astrology and hence there is no need to categorize what he is talking about.

Do you know how often my topology textbook mentions the word "topology" in the main text? ZERO. Fucking idiot

Also my jupiter example was made up if you couldnt fucking tell, but he does talk about planets and their signs constantly. Maybe search other planets you dumb faggot

[Anonymous No.15456363]

>its a 'leftists try to pit right wingers against evola by claiming he wasnt as right wing as they believe, while balancing their beliefs that evola was a right wing' nut thread

[Anonymous No.15456387]

>>15456302
>Do you know how often my topology textbook mentions the word "topology" in the main text? ZERO. Fucking idiot
>not reading Munkres Topology
God could you be anymore cringe
Inb4
>I-I am reading Munkres Topology f-fucking c-cretin
But Shlomo the word "topology" occurs 716 times in that book

[Anonymous No.15456425]

>>15456387
It is Munkres, and I own a physical textbook so I can't just control f like a faggot like you.

A more appropriate example would be how many times does the textbook mention the word "math"?

faggot

[Anonymous No.15456780]

>>15456059
>>15456387
why are you even engaging with that guy? theres no point

[Anonymous No.15456799]

>>15440873
underrated post

[Anonymous No.15456808]

>>15440893
>As I lay Jivin'

[Anonymous No.15456824]

>>15441871
I didn't think of this before but you are right, good post

[Anonymous No.15456827]

>>15440893
>A Finna to Arms
that's not what finna means

[Anonymous No.15456930]

>>15456780
Eh it's entertaining enough to see the dumb responses he'll come up with. Also why is your picture a gif? It made me nervous clicking it.

[Anonymous No.15457258]

>>15442553
>>15441949
this anon has good recs, check them out

[Anonymous No.15457310]

>>15446094
t. Retarded and proud of it

[Anonymous No.15457332]

>>15446851
this is an extremely dumb post

[Anonymous No.15457339]

>>15446964
good post

[Anonymous No.15457384]

/pol/ is great. I may not be on any one side but /pol/ is a blessing. It's where all the action is.

[Anonymous No.15457908]

>>15445039
It's his best book. His words speak of purity and that's all you need to know. Your just playing a different game here by bringing up that one middle aged woman he liked. If you want to experiment with the deeper eros of sex, then an older woman is a better companion.

[Anonymous No.15457966]

>>15446851
A centrist can never appreciate Evola. The times of centrism are over. We are in the age of extremes. We have to beyond even Evola. A centrism goes beyond by denying and mocking, a false imitation of big-brained behavior. A true man goes beyond by integrating, accepting, and moving on. Not by denying out right.

In our age of extremes and secular atomization, Everyone deeply desires for unity behind one figure, but only a few will admit it. And the centrists, will not admit it.

[Anonymous No.15458509]

>>15440893
based

[Anonymous No.15458671]

>>15457310
If only we all could be retarded and proud, absolutely based.

[Anonymous No.15458762]

>>15440893
Mein Gott

[Anonymous No.15458867]

>>15438810
I read it and was bewildered at its popularity. Utter schizo trash

[Anonymous No.15459570]

>>15438810
I did but then I wish I read Guénon instead.

[Anonymous No.15459766]

>>15438810
I used to be a major liberal, even drinking starbucks and watching the Daily Show. Then I read this book and became trad af. I don't even go to synagogue anymore, even for the shabbat service.

[Anonymous No.15461376]

Saved from the brink?

[Anonymous No.15461384]

>>15440325
>there was some secret race of white people from the hyperborea that were behind all the greatest civilizations.
They were from the steppes. It's not really that wrong if you take it metaphorically.

[Anonymous No.15461393]

>>15438810
I love Evola

I don't go on /pol/ but i'm pretty damn far right. Not like " blatant white nationalist" white but still pretty damn right

[Anonymous No.15461398]

>>15440984
lol imagine actually believing this

[Anonymous No.15461414]

>>15440984
Today's conception of nationalism is meaningless

The essence of nationalism is tribe and spirit. The USA is basically multiple nations under one designated land mass

[Anonymous No.15461530]

This whole thread is full of contrarian pseuds who think they are smarter than everyone else. You guys are massive autistic faggots. Race and culture and not worshipping anything remotely Jewish are all that matter. Everything else is cope and lies and pilpul and narcissism (this thread).

[Anonymous No.15461547]

>>15440325
This is true, in that, all great civilizations originated from the proto-Indian-Europeans who evolved from niggers into humans in the Caucus mountains 150000 years ago. Caucasians created 99.9% of everything.

[Anonymous No.15462148]

>>15448462
would you reccomend reading Hero With a Thousand Faces or Revolt more? i'm not sure which one to start with.

[Anonymous No.15462188]

>>15461530
shoo shoo little mutt, no one wants to hear you crying about your fathers selling your soul to the golden arches anymore faggot