QUESTION

[Anonymous No.15357418]

Tell me something that’s true that very few /lit/ anons agree with you on.

[Anonymous No.15357427]

Literature is always musical, but music isn't always literary.

[Anonymous No.15357433]

I’m one of the best posters around here.

[Anonymous No.15357437]

>>15357418
Gay sex is more intimiate and feels better.

[You No.15357442]

Philip Roth, Pat Conroy both great

[Anonymous No.15357455]

>>15357418
Reading and understanding texts doesn't make you intelligent. In the modern age, smart people probably don't even really read all that much aside from any required texts for their job or degree. Reading is actually an indicator of being a midwit.

[Anonymous No.15357464]

>>15357455
What makes someone gigabrain then?

[Anonymous No.15357474]

>>15357464
Being able to do theoretical physics

[Anonymous No.15357477]

>>15357464
Knowing that someone who reads is likely a midwit doesn't mean I know what activity indicates high intelligence.

[Anonymous No.15357479]

>>15357455
>people with broad bases of knowledge are actually dumber than people with only know about a specialty within their own field but are ignorant in every other way
Uh huh sure, anon.

[Anonymous No.15357496]

>>15357477
what if you use your midwit filtering powers to filter all the midwit particles to identify the purest nonmidwits

[Anonymous No.15357504]

>>15357479
Knowledge =/= intelligence. There is one (1) kind of intelligence that has to do with linguistic skills and that is verbal-linguistic, which is primarily developed during childhood. Reading as an adulthood does nothing for your intelligence.
Furthermore, it isn't more intelligent to gain broader knowledge than focus on specific knowledge. Broader knowledge is mostly useless in everyday life, but specific knowledge allows you to hone particular skills related to your profession.

[Anonymous No.15357517]

>>15357418
You can't be truly /lit/ if you're not a polyglot. Monolingualism is detrimental to good writing. The exceptions are few.

[Anonymous No.15357540]

>>15357504
>verbal-linguistic, which is primarily developed during childhood.
yes
>Reading as an adulthood does nothing for your intelligence.
highly questionable. you can argue that some mysterious "g factor" remains the same, but it's a proven fact that reading a semantics book can cure retarded mental illnesses that cripple your verbal ability

[Anonymous No.15357550]

>>15357418
You're a piece of shit if you call Dolores Haze "Lolita" instead of Dolly or Dolores.

[Anonymous No.15357561]

>>15357517
I doubt a "polyglot" like Laoshu who's memorized 20 phrases in 50 languages is really /lit/ if they just use it for making shitty clickbait videos.
There have been some great monolingual writers like Pynchon and Cervantes, but I doubt you'd want to praise them because you probably believe that being a good writer means knowing lots of words.

[Anonymous No.15357573]

>>15357437
No, lesbian.

[Anonymous No.15357578]

>>15357573
Women can only fetishize romance, never directly experience true romantic love.

[Anonymous No.15357579]

>>15357455

le frogtwitter take

[Anonymous No.15357659]

>>15357561
i have noticed a tendency in the writings of some academic linguists to make weird connections between words based on phonetic rather than semantic connections. if you remember youtube videos have an "automatic captions" feature that relies on a speech to text algorithm to generate subtitles. it works remarkably well nowadays but for the longest time it was complete dog crap, only good for generating accidental humor. imagine one of "creative" those speech to text algorithms only filtered by an intelligent mind, this is how i would describe the effect. i think there are unique benefits like this to studying multiple languages and language in general. it's not a one to one ratio of vocab:intelligence, but there is something there.

[Anonymous No.15357725]

>>15357578
Says a man who wants to lick a woman’s stiletto heels, nurse and play diaper change.

[Anonymous No.15358181]

>>15357725
schizo

[Anonymous No.15358191]

>>15357455
Consider that this person has chosen to post on a literature forum

[Anonymous No.15358227]

>>15357418
Black people are humans, too.

[Anonymous No.15358403]

>>15357504
> Broader knowledge is mostly useless in everyday life, but specific knowledge allows you to hone particular skills related to your profession.
Can confirm. If I had of understood this I wouldn't have wasted most of my 20's

[Anonymous No.15358423]

>>15358403
What did you get specific knowledge in anon?

[Anonymous No.15358448]

>>15358423
Probably photography. But I'm a useless dilettante so others would probably list 5 more areas. But that's not my point, overarching grand theories didn't help me personally, romantically, professionally, financially, or even give me peace of mind. Problem specific instructions are always the way to go.

[Anonymous No.15358461]

Souls are real
They are material.
You will be born again
I'm an atheist.

[Anonymous No.15358475]

>>15357474
Back to /sci/, love.

[Anonymous No.15358532]

>>15357418

-god isn't real, and even if he were it would be necessary to reject it, so the right thing to do is to reject god at all events.

-neoliberalism is good.

-"monolingual" is a completely ineffective insult when it is directed at a native english speaker.

[Anonymous No.15358538]

>>15358475
It's true regardless of who says it or where they say it

[Anonymous No.15358540]

Marx was right

[Anonymous No.15358581]

>>15358538
Not him, but please explain to me how being able to do theoretical physics is of any utility unless you happen to be the best in the world? It seems me to be like a hyperbolic version of anagrams. A complex task that requires talent but it's only application is to show others that you can do this complex task.
the only possible application I know of is working in quantitative finance, and even then that's simply being a cog in the machine because Quant Fin requires huge amounts of capital. Again, you can't spontaneously generate millions in capital by finding mathematical analogies from the stock market to theoretical physics.
Forgive me if I'm dismissive. But I've come to the conclusion that the ultimate litmus test of "smart" is how pragmatic it is. Otherwise, why wouldn't we consider the mental gymnastics of a gender studies major 'smart' when it has similar utility to, oh I don't know, calculating the hawking radiation of some blackhole?

[Anonymous No.15358622]

>>15357418
Women are much smarter than men and often face more and harder obstacles in life

[Anonymous No.15358638]

>>15357474
>Being able to do theoretical physics

[Anonymous No.15358651]

I am the smartest person on this board

[Anonymous No.15358657]

Butterfly is always right

[Anonymous No.15358659]

Paintings are as good as books

[Anonymous No.15358663]

>>15358622
based

[Anonymous No.15358706]

>>15358581
Because knowledge is required to calculate blackhole decays in your head retard. Anyone can bullshit fucking gender studies, terrible comparison.

A truth we can all accept is it's a sign of a true retard when they come up with shit analogies (YOU).

[Anonymous No.15358789]

Women are as much multi-dimensional and human as men and I am grateful for the women in my life

[Anonymous No.15358798]

Nobody on lit reads, if they did they wouldn't be so reactionary infowars-tier with their cultural takes outside the hivemind

[Anonymous No.15358810]

>>15358798

I've read several dozen volumes of left-wing political theory and the more I read, the more I hate them.

[Anonymous No.15358871]

>>15358622
Truthpilled

[Anonymous No.15358873]

>>15358706
I'm surprised you're taking such an irrational defensive stance because it is a very apt comparison because everyone knows gender studies is bullshit, yet you're advocating for Theoretical Physics as being the true marker of 'smart' just because it's more complicated and requires knowledge. yet they are both equally worthless in the real world... or at least I haven't seen you make a cogent argument why there are more practical applications for Theoretical Physics. It doesn't matter if it's Chess, or Go, or reading Finnigeans Wake. What's the actual point - how is it any more valuable than gender studies?

[Anonymous No.15358940]

>prisca theologica/the perennial philosophy is a real thing and squabbles about specifics are akin to arguments about angels dancing on the head of a pin-pick one method to reach Heaven and stick to it, The One will welcome you anyway

>women can be good writers-Sappho, Enheduanna, Anne Carson, Anne Waldman, Emily Dickinson are all great

>black people can be good writers-James Baldwin, Claude Mckay, Jean Toomer, Derek Walcott, and Jay Wright are all great

>poetry is superior to the novel, always has been and always will be

>epic is the highest form of poetry and the highest form of art in general, having built multiple nations/national identities (Greek for Homer, or Dante helping to cement Italian as a literary language with the Divine Comedy)

>The literature of norse mythology is highly lacking in comparison with the literature of Mesopotamian, Greek, and Egyptian mythology

>Beowulf is shite, completely fails to say anything of worth

>The Mahabharata and the Iliad are about equal in respective merits, both are incredible-Achilles crying with Priam is evenly matched with the soldiers being resurrected in the river Ganga "shorn of all hatred and jealousy", I cried at both

[Anonymous No.15358942]

>>15358622
>>15358789
Undeniably based gf-havers in this thread

[Anonymous No.15358949]

>>15358622
unironically based and gfpilled

[Anonymous No.15358950]

>>15358940
favourite work/translation by anne carson? good opinions btw

[Anonymous No.15358951]

Pirating books is a terrible idea because it means publishers will lean even further toward the female market that gives them money

[Anonymous No.15358954]

>>15358940
>>Beowulf is shite, completely fails to say anything of worth
Yeah because that shit is centuries old and holds no value to the modern person, but that's not why or how you should read it.

[Anonymous No.15358960]

>>15357517
Does three languages count? I think that's the barely minimal, isn't it so?

[Anonymous No.15359070]

>>15358954
Don't be daft.
Gilgamesh especially is one of the oldest works of literature around, and is still an incredibly potent thing for anyone interested in their own mortality (read:anyone) to look at. Rilke, a great in his own right, was a notable fan. Beowulf fails to measure up to other great epics because it lacks qualities like this (or at least I have failed to notice them), or like the Iliad's foremost struggle with Achilles for life or glory, or the struggle of Aeneas in regards to destiny and the will of God/the Gods.

>>15358950
My favorite has always been Decreation, particularly the operas-when I first read H&A Opera (Hephaestus and Aphrodite) she immediately shot into my top 5 living poets. Rhythmic, playful, and still so poignant.

[Anonymous No.15359083]

>>15359070
Mortality is a recurring theme in Beowulf though. It's never skipped, ever-present, and a large part of his story. They spent as much if not more time describing his final battle as his first.
It's about death, God, and loyalty. A story meant for any Christian.

[Anonymous No.15359094]

>>15359070
I loved decreation! Eros the Bittersweet was probably the first work of "theory" (overarching litcrit) that I read, and it helped me understand neoteric poetry os much better, so I think that holds a special place in my heart. It's crazy to me that posters here don't see women as intellectual beings / able of producing art. I guess those types don't really get far though, so it's just resentment

[Anonymous No.15359101]

>>15359083
Mortality isn't addressed anywhere near as powerfully in Beowulf as it is in Gilgamesh-of course it isn't skipped and is present, it's a story about a man, after all. As far as I can see it fundamentally does not explore the depth of its themes well enough to be truly lavished with praise, and comes off as something tonally childish.

[Anonymous No.15359144]

>>15357561
Cervantes wasn't a monolingual. Pynchon isn't a "great" writer (you just outed yourself as an unpardonable pseud). And I agree that superficial polyglotism doesn't count.
>>15358960
Might depend on which ones, but yes, three is a good amount. I would also say that it's better to be a legit bilingual than a barely passing polyglot.

[Anonymous No.15359146]

>>15359101
I agree it doesn't do it as in depth as Gilgamesh, but to say it holds nothing of value as a story is absurd.

[Anonymous No.15359151]

>>15357561
>Soldier under an Austrian leader who lived in Italy for years
>Monolingual.
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.15359159]

Art only requires intent

[Anonymous No.15359166]

>>15357455
>>15357504
What if someone reads not to gain "knowledge" or whatever but because it's enjoyable. Reading fine literature is simply sublime. If you've never read a passage that made you shiver, you are missing out.

[Anonymous No.15359172]

>>15359146
That's fair. I'll admit that was hyperbolic on my part, perhaps the seeping in of some ancient and residual seethe from being forced to read it.

[Anonymous No.15359177]

>>15358873
You can't reason with /sci/tards. They've spent their entire life trying to congeal the world into equations. Any problem that isn't best approached with addition or subtraction is an existential threat to them.

[Anonymous No.15359183]

>>15358622
cringe replies. Women being smarter is just wrong and them having it harder in life may have been true 30 years ago but not anymore

[Anonymous No.15359189]

>>15359172
Thanks for the discussion anon. I can see your point on other epics being more valuable, and downright better, but Beowulf is a good first epic to read, and cool simply because of its place in history.

[Anonymous No.15359198]

>>15358873
He knows that it isn't. The pretensions of theoretical physicists in regards to the physical world know no bounds and hold little true basis. Pure cope.

[Anonymous No.15359205]

>>15357504
>>15358403
Breadth first knowledge search first and then depth. Hopefully one concludes their breadth first search before committing to a major in college but thats not always possible. I'm about to graduate and didnt conclude my broad knowledge tree until recently . At least I feel that way, I thought I knew everything when I decided my major but then my worldview shifted. I think I'm at that point where I can pretty much only specialize/ be productive but who knows what I discover.

Hope you enjoy my blog

[Anonymous No.15359209]

>>15359189
Anytime mate. This (and you) has actually reminded me to use this time to reread it anyway, might have a changed opinion. Either that or reading the Shanameh for the first time.
Probably both.

>>15359094
Oh, agreed on Eros. Her skill as an essayist is really astounding. Coming into Carson for the first time at like, 18, I definitely was not familiar with the concept of a truly enthralling essay. On another note, is it just me or is Autobiography of Red actually not as strong as the rest of her work? Could just be me, or perhaps the hype around it, but I couldn't really claim to love it.

[Anonymous No.15359210]

>>15359205
How did you know you were done generalizing and that you had obtained sufficient breadth?

[Anonymous No.15359225]

>>15357418
Philosophy only enhances the thoughts of those with lesser consciousness, otherwise, it's just good for arguing and organizing thoughts.

[Anonymous No.15359236]

>>15359183
Brains and beauty develop where brawn is unavailable.

Those who are salty about women are so because they compete with them in their world, not for them in a man's world. They mistake an trilateral asymmetric arms race as a binary one.

[Anonymous No.15359242]

>>15358622
pretty based

[Anonymous No.15359258]

>>15358622
Getting slaughtered in the front lines for aristocratic beef was a breeze compared to a woman's life at home with children.

[Anonymous No.15359265]

>>15357418
Women aren't any worse than men.

[Anonymous No.15359279]

>>15359265
Are you me?

[Anonymous No.15359288]

>>15359210
When I started appreciating every academic field, artistic pursuit and ideology. I literally don't know what else I could gain a superficial understanding of that would add to my world model and my only option is to gain depth.

[Anonymous No.15359295]

>>15359258
Rules of war were only men die are made my men who get to stay at home and benefit from more women and whatever is left behind. If you think you're competing with women and not men, I'd suggest you question whose attention you actually desire

[Anonymous No.15359310]

>>15359295
I was simply making a counterpoint about women having more obstacles. You drunk or something? Who makes that many spelling mistakes with autocorrect?

[Anonymous No.15359314]

>>15359236
you have to face reality. Women don't really compete with mem in any field. Why do you think women quotas exist? And sports are separated anyway, for the simple reason that men would destroy them in every single one, even in those not based on body strength like chess

The slow dismantling of patriarchy is not a success of women fighting for it either. It's entirely voluntary

[Anonymous No.15359355]

>>15358873
Ngl, Studying gender > studying dumb ass string shit in terms of real-world application, prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.15359373]

>>15359209
I never read Autobiography of Red, because my friend who introduced me to Carson hated it. It's been on my list for a while but I see opinions like yours a lot so I delay reading-- basically, I don't have an opinion, but I don't think you're alone. Have you read Phaedra's Love? It's one of my favourite "adaptations" of Hippolytos, and it reminds me of Carson's in Grief Lessons

[Anonymous No.15359406]

>>15359373
>Phaedra's Love
I haven't, but I vastly appreciate the recommendation. Will check it out, thanks.

[Anonymous No.15359514]

>>15359314
Paper < rock < scissors < paper

[Anonymous No.15359517]

>>15357418

95% of philosophy (and 99.9% of modern philosophy) is worthless mental masturbation.

It's always the people tackling more direct, "practical" problems who seriously advance the frontiers of knowledge and reshape humanity's mental models of the world. Newton thinking about apples and planets, for example, or Turing thinking about machines which could play chess. (Pure mathematicians get a nod of respect too.) All these people are doing something difficult, where you can either succeed or fail. Philosophers, on the other hand, remind me of Frost's comment on free verse. They're just playing tennis with the net down.

[Anonymous No.15359997]

>>15359094
Most men here hold the view that women are capable of producing art but that they don't have the same level of ability in disciplines like philosophy. Had we a female in our reading groups, I think that we would not operate on the level that we usually do.

[Anonymous No.15360022]

Everything related to humans is socially constructed. Even biology is guided by social constructs to an extent

[Anonymous No.15360038]

>>15358659
there is a saying that a picture is worth a thousand words
the average novel has 70000 words
therefore you'd need to look at 70 paintings to equal one novel
i mean that's practically a whole exhibition

[Anonymous No.15360051]

>>15359517
>All these people are doing something difficult, where you can either succeed or fail. Philosophers, on the other hand, remind me of Frost's comment on free verse. They're just playing tennis with the net down.
To contribute to this thread, this is why people in the humanities often have such a dislike for mathematics and analytic philosophy or logic. Doing these things, you eventually run into situations where what you have is obviously wrong. Mathematicians spend serious amounts of time being stuck and this can be extremely frustrating. This is what my posh English teacher friends means when they talk about how much "they hate mathematics" because (their very limited experience in school) was dominated by those moments of being stuck with no way to talk yourself out of it. It takes quite serious zen to keep going when you haven't been making progress for days or weeks and I believe the "I hate math lmao" crowd is lacking that completely.

[Anonymous No.15360096]

>>15359997
I think the main issue is that girls on 4chan are fucked in the head: why would you go on a website where most people hate you and/or want to rape you unless you're deranged? Women in my classes have been very intelligent, and the women in my life are erudite

[Anonymous No.15360158]

>>15357418
- I have free will.
- Consciousness exists.
- Nihilism is a psychological, not a philosophical condition.
- Materialism is internally consistent and it's possible to live a happy, fulfilling life while being a materialist.
- Proust is not worth reading.
- Les Miserables is overrated.
- James Joyce had nothing interesting to say and his books are not worth reading.
- Nick Land is a dumb junkie with nothing interesting to say.
- The accumulation of physical books just to show them off is very shallow and low IQ behavior.
- There are good science fiction books.
- Science is the best way to find truth in its own epistemological domain.
- The greeks for the most part are not worth reading. They are important but the important and relevant bits of their philosophy have already been absolved by our society and is seen as something that is common sense.
- Most good books are not in the top 100 literature lists.
- Reading too much can make one stupid.
- Some women are alright.
- Incels are right about a lot of things.
- Reading for the purpose of reading is dumb.
- Most good books should be reread.
- Modern art is better than it has ever been.
- Kaczynski was smart but wrong. Progress of technology is a good thing. It is already slowing and should be accelerated.
- Belief in humanity and pro-social behavior is a sign of maturity and intellect.
- Pointing to a book or an author when confronted with an argument is an admit of defeat.
- Hemingway as a writer is alright, but the "iceberg theory" is bullshit, an attempt to praise his own writing. His short stories are better than his long books.
- Life is not all about having sex.
- Freud and Jung were not even wrong.
- A lot of users in this board display a shocking lack of empathy towards others.
- In most cases, when someone actually knows about something, they will be happy to engage when asked about it.
- We were born in the best possible time (not counting the future).

[Anonymous No.15360278]

Neuromancer is full blown autism shit. Can't believe I forced myself to read it all.

[Anonymous No.15360319]

>>15360096
Yeah, going on 4chan and not expecting at least some ironyposting to show up is stupid. The women in my life have not been very philosophical but I had a few great teachers whose classes I enjoyed. But most of my conversations revolving around abstract topics happened in online circles comprised entirely of men. Not that we weren't accepting of women or whatever, but it's that a multitude of factors were the reason for why women were absent.

[Anonymous No.15360320]

>>15360158

- I have free will.
At a certain level of perception, yes.

- Consciousness exists.
At a certain level of perception, obviously, but it's a mystery as profound as "why is there something rather than nothing?"

- Nihilism is a psychological, not a philosophical condition.
Probably, but such arguments always degenerate into quibbling over definitions.

- Materialism is internally consistent and it's possible to live a happy, fulfilling life while being a materialist.
Maybe. But the yearning for the numinous is surprisingly strong in human psychology.

- Proust is not worth reading.
Probably wrong but it's a question of how much time you have. What do you have to give up in order to read him?

- Les Miserables is overrated.
Hard to say how it's actually rated.

- James Joyce had nothing interesting to say and his books are not worth reading.
I think he's over-rated but this is going a bit far.

- Nick Land is a dumb junkie with nothing interesting to say.
No idea.

- The accumulation of physical books just to show them off is very shallow and low IQ behavior.
Shallow, almost always. Not necessarily low IQ.

- There are good science fiction books.
Yeah, within limits. There's no top-class science-fiction work of literature yet.

- Science is the best way to find truth in its own epistemological domain.
Obviously it is its own domain.

- The greeks for the most part are not worth reading. They are important but the important and relevant bits of their philosophy have already been absolved by our society and is seen as something that is common sense.
Wrong.

- Most good books are not in the top 100 literature lists.
Wrong.

- Reading too much can make one stupid.
Reading too much is obviously bad; that's what "too much" means. The main issue is the proportion of reading to doing other things, as Hazlitt pointed out 200 years ago. (And many others before him.)

- Some women are alright.
Obviously.

- Incels are right about a lot of things.
Some things.

- Reading for the purpose of reading is dumb.
Obviously.

- Most good books should be reread.
Obviously.

- Modern art is better than it has ever been.
Modern 'art' is garbage.

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[Anonymous No.15360327]

>>15360158

>- I have free will.
At a certain level of perception, yes

>- Consciousness exists.
At a certain level of perception, obviously, but it's a mystery as profound as "why is there something rather than nothing?"

>- Nihilism is a psychological, not a philosophical condition.
Probably, but such arguments always degenerate into quibbling over definitions.

>- Materialism is internally consistent and it's possible to live a happy, fulfilling life while being a materialist.
Maybe. But the yearning for the numinous is surprisingly strong in human psychology.

>- Proust is not worth reading.
Probably wrong but it's a question of how much time you have. What do you have to give up in order to read him?

>- Les Miserables is overrated.
Hard to say how it's actually rated.

>- James Joyce had nothing interesting to say and his books are not worth reading.
I think he's over-rated but this is going a bit far.

>- Nick Land is a dumb junkie with nothing interesting to say.
No idea.

>- The accumulation of physical books just to show them off is very shallow and low IQ behavior.
Shallow, almost always. Not necessarily low IQ.

>- There are good science fiction books.
Yeah, within limits. There's no top-class science-fiction work of literature yet.

>- Science is the best way to find truth in its own epistemological domain.
Obviously it is its own domain.

>- The greeks for the most part are not worth reading. They are important but the important and relevant bits of their philosophy have already been absolved by our society and is seen as something that is common sense.
Wrong.

>- Most good books are not in the top 100 literature lists.
Wrong.

>- Reading too much can make one stupid.
Reading too much is obviously bad; that's what "too much" means. The main issue is the proportion of reading to doing other things, as Hazlitt pointed out 200 years ago. (And many others before him.)

>- Some women are alright.
Obviously.

>- Incels are right about a lot of things.
Some things.

>- Reading for the purpose of reading is dumb.
Obviously.

>- Most good books should be reread.
Obviously.

>- Modern art is better than it has ever been.
Modern 'art' is garbage.

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[Anonymous No.15360339]

>>15360158
>>15360327

>- Kaczynski was smart but wrong. Progress of technology is a good thing. It is already slowing and should be accelerated.
We're on the train, for good or ill. It's certainly better to try to steer it in the right direction rather than vandalize it or try to jump off.

>- Belief in humanity and pro-social behavior is a sign of maturity and intellect.
Within limits. Pro-social behaviour is only a good thing if one knows who is US and who is NOT US. Any group which ignores this will be destroyed by one which doesn't.

>- Pointing to a book or an author when confronted with an argument is an admit of defeat.
Nope. It might be a way of saving time.

>- Hemingway as a writer is alright, but the "iceberg theory" is bullshit, an attempt to praise his own writing. His short stories are better than his long books.
He's all right. 'Iceberg theory' is true to some extent. Yes, his short stories are better.

>- Life is not all about having sex.
Yeah, although that's the basic nuclear reactor that powers almost everything.

>- Freud and Jung were not even wrong.
They were partly right but they didn't know much that Shakespeare didn't know.

>- A lot of users in this board display a shocking lack of empathy towards others.
True. They're mostly just desperate for attention. And internet anonymity doesn't help.

>- In most cases, when someone actually knows about something, they will be happy to engage when asked about it.
True.

>- We were born in the best possible time (not counting the future).
Hard to say. And it depends what you by "best". It might be possible for people to affect the course of humanity more drastically now than at any time in the past. So they have more power, which some people would say is a good thing.

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[Anonymous No.15360374]

>>15360051
There is an idea that whatever you write in humanities has some merit, and the reader can choose to interpret whatever is on the page to give some kind of credit.
This is not the case in the sciences, where an incorrect approach is clear, and lack of understanding can not be compensated by flowery tangents and hazy interpretations of the question or task at hand

[Anonymous No.15360474]

>>15359151
Wow, I didn't know that Pychon was a solider. RIP, you Glorious Bastard.

[Anonymous No.15361362]

>>15360474
shut up

[Anonymous No.15362063]

curiosity bump

[Anonymous No.15362202]

>>15359144
>Might depend on which ones
Which ones? Do you have some kind of list? Kek

[Anonymous No.15362496]

>>15359225
wtf WTF .. you just destroyed thousands of years of philosophical history with wh.. with this ??? :O hooooly cope those philfags, haven't seen it coming.. well bad for them. if only pragmatists, analytical philosophers, neopositivists and other practical gigachads thought of this earlier..

[Anonymous No.15362564]

>>15359517
holy mother of STEMcope . I'm saving this to later bait my Philosophy gigachad bros from different school of thoughts. and I thought feminism cope was abusing inductive reasoning, but gee weez it's stemfags that keep up coming up with biggest copes in universe.

[Anonymous No.15362571]

>>15359517
holy based!
/thread

[Anonymous No.15362589]

>>15357418
A Song of Fire and Ice and Lord of The Rings are both great and deserve praise.

[Anonymous No.15362611]

>>15362202
Not a list, but I would definitely consider some languages superior to others, especially literarily. Which three do you know? Just curious.

[Anonymous No.15362655]

>>15357418
Morality is subjective regardless of whether or not a god exists.

[Anonymous No.15362665]

>>15357418
Science >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Philosophy, but people here at bad at math and physics so it's scary to them.
That's also the reason the philosophers of Galileo's time refused to look through his telescope.

[Anonymous No.15362675]

>>15357418
Happiness is unimportant

[Anonymous No.15362744]

Apparently it's unpopular to state here that it's actually, genuinely, unironically not B.

[Anonymous No.15362757]

>>15362665
There are quite a few people who post on /lit/ that are efficient at mathematics and physics, myself included :3

[Anonymous No.15362876]

>>15362744
Inside the box checkmate russkies

[Anonymous No.15363078]

>>15362757
Well then, what's the answer to >>15362744

[Anonymous No.15363084]

>>15362744
This is actually pretty easy with vectors

[Anonymous No.15363142]

>>15359517
Lol, now say this without using philosophic value statements

[Anonymous No.15363150]

>>15362665
>Science >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Philosophy
For what?

[Anonymous No.15363318]

>>15358403
>>15357479
I'm an American STEMfag who travels internationally for my job a lot. Having a broad base of knowledge about the history, literature, and culture of other countries has been amazingly helpful for establishing relationships with people I meet and work with overseas. Broad knowledge can be very useful if you aren't an awkward misanthropic weirdo who shuns human connections.

[Anonymous No.15363521]

>>15362665
food>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>water. stemfags with their nomothetical law making will never cope with the fact that the most advanced scientific invention will never do anything to a human kind outside of basic life improvement. Leaving exestensial dread outside while keeping it warm in house with major cope.

[Anonymous No.15363572]

>>15357418
The human race need to realise that it's nothing, and be fine with it. Only then can we escape existential dread brought about due to religion. Once this is done, and we understand that we're nothing, only then will we be able to pull meaning from that nothingness, and embrace it.

[Anonymous No.15363586]

>>15362665
This has to be one of the most smoothbrain takes of the modern day. Science doesn't have the answer to everything, retard.

[Anonymous No.15363587]

>>15362744
I have dyscalculia

[Anonymous No.15363731]

>>15357418
books are, sometimes, good

[Anonymous No.15363744]

>>15357437
That's because you're gay, hetero sex can be really intimate given the right setting

[Anonymous No.15363757]

>>15363587
That's alright, at least you don't autistically assume that the post is a shitpost and that it's actually B.

[Anonymous No.15363806]

>>15357418
Psychedelics are really, really good for you intellectually

[Anonymous No.15363860]

>>15362665
lol no, a lot of people in philosophy are good in those areas among others. I know a lot of people who were in the maths and sciences and drifted to philosophy because it was more fulfilling. I was always top scoring in math, it just found it unsatisfying. It usually has itself as its object, whereas at least philosophy is aiming for reality.

[Anonymous No.15364810]

>>15357659
That’s interesting that you mention something like this. I’m fluent in both Russian and English and this sort of phenomenon occurs to me all the time.

One that immediately comes to mind is a phonetic similarity between behemoth and бeгeмoт which is pronounced like (bee hee moht) and means hippo. It’s interesting to think these two languages come from completely different language trees and a word that means some large gargantuan entity in one language sounds very similar to another word from a different language for an animal that you could physically describe using the word from the first language. All while again being completely unrelated other than in how they sound.

[Anonymous No.15364907]

>>15357455
having a high IQ makes you intelligent whether you read or not, shit take

[Anonymous No.15364935]

0.999... = 1

[Anonymous No.15365031]

1+1=1

[Anonymous No.15365045]

>>15358461
have you been reading plato anon?

[Anonymous No.15365059]

>>15357418
Everythings made out of language not matter

[Anonymous No.15366499]

>>15360319
One of my exes ran a pdf repository thing on Tumblr and she was in a close group of intelligent women. I think smart chicks just don't want to talk to us

[Anonymous No.15366745]

>>15357573
They can’t even penetrate each other (in a way that would pleasure the penetrator).

[Anonymous No.15366760]

>>15357418
the universe is entirely material

[Anonymous No.15366766]

>>15357418
Joshua Cohen is the only good living American writer (Pynch may as well be dead, sorry boys). The novel stopped at Ulysses, and there are very few examples of good works that understand this and even fewer examples of innovation (maybe Borges conceptually, maybe Beckett prose wise, maybe some of the oulipo stuff experimentation wise).

[Anonymous No.15366772]

>>15360038
Hmmm that makes sense

[Anonymous No.15366779]

>>15357455
“When we read, another person thinks for us: we merely repeat his mental process. In learning to write, the pupil goes over with his pen what the teacher has outlined in pencil: so in reading; the greater part of the work of thought is already done for us. This is why it relieves us to take up a book after being occupied with our own thoughts. And in reading, the mind is, in fact, only the playground of another’s thoughts. So it comes about that if anyone spends almost the whole day in reading, and by way of relaxation devotes the intervals to some thoughtless pastime, he gradually loses the capacity for thinking; just as the man who always rides, at last forgets how to walk. This is the case with many learned persons: they have read themselves stupid.”

[Anonymous No.15367646]

Nobody here reads

[Anonymous No.15367697]

>>15357418
>this place delivers good recommendations often enough to be essential for the young writer to develop faster, if they're followed up on

>books are terribly inconsiderate gifts to give

>OP is in no ways a faggot

[Anonymous No.15367702]

Esoterism is only bullshit made to con retards into thinking there is some greater knowledge to be found in it.
If you had any knowledge to transmit, either you should share it directly or hide it behind a code that the target only would be able to read.

[Anonymous No.15367717]

>>15360051
>>15360374
But the thing is, in terms of human contact and communication there is very rarely a time when there is a pure right or wrong. And whenever there is a ought instead of a is, where does the science come into play? It only works so Th in a pre-established philosophical sphere.

[Anonymous No.15367747]

>>15367697
I like receiving books as presents? I think as long as you buy books for someone who reads about something they will enjoy it's a great present to give

[Anonymous No.15367763]

>>15367747
is wrong

and
>>15367697
is right

Might as well give them an albatross. It'll be awkward six months later when, in a slight conversational lull, you say, "So... have you

[Anonymous No.15367802]

>>15367763
Ok, I think I understand where the confusion is. Books are definitely not my first idea for a gift for anyone, and I would not buy a book for someone who doesn't read. However, I feel touched when someone buys me a book about something I've mentioned having interest in in the past, and I buy books for my close friends if I know they a) haven't read it and b) will want to read it (one of my friends has mentioned wanting to read something by Mishima, so I bought him Confessions of a Mask)

[Anonymous No.15368051]

>>15357474
very based