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[Anonymous No.15356590]

Why do people prefer reading about dystopias over utopias?

[Anonymous No.15356597]

Less conflict in Utopias

[Anonymous No.15356619]

Drama sells. Nobody is interested in happiness of others

[Anonymous No.15356627]

>>15356590
whats the point of reading about utopias

[Anonymous No.15356629]

Have you read Herland?

[Anonymous No.15356659]

>>15356590
Perspective. Indeed, there's no "dystopia/utopia." It's all about whom you choose to tell the story from.

[Anonymous No.15356671]

We subconsciously know we will never achieve utopia, but dystopias of all stripes are quite within reach.

[Anonymous No.15357406]

>>15356590
That's because it's easier to image the end of the world than the end of capitalism

[Anonymous No.15357430]

People need some degree of struggle, otherwise it just gets boring.

[Anonymous No.15357448]

>>15356627
Best kind of escapism. Why cower over a possible future when you can lay the groundwork for a better world

[Anonymous No.15357453]

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[Anonymous No.15357458]

>>15356590
People only like reading about dystopias if there's some kind of eventual revolution or the main character is a defiant heroic character, and those aren't actually very dystopian at all.

1984 is the only exception since it's certified canon.

[Anonymous No.15357460]

>>15357448
Based

[Anonymous No.15357640]

>>15356590
It's much easier to destroy than create.

[Anonymous No.15357723]

>dude everything is great and perfect

Literally boring desu. Part of why I think if REAL COMMUNISM is achieved art will unironically be trash

[Anonymous No.15358608]

Best utopian novel, but Morris is also great.

[Anonymous No.15358870]

>>15356590
people prefer realism in general

[Anonymous No.15359110]

>>15357448
Because then I can’t point and laugh at how shitty someone else’s life is and not feel bad since they aren’t a real person. Utopias on the other hand make me feel bad because I know my life will never be that good, and the potential that humans could eventually live that type of life makes me depressed.

[Anonymous No.15359123]

Conflict = Drama
No problems, no story

[Anonymous No.15359316]

>>15359110
Where have all the heroes gone?
Why is this a society lost all courage?
A Depression is coming, anon. Get up!

>>15359123
They’re usually polemical, though pseudo-utopians can have minor conflict. It’s a general laziness that chooses the easier themes. Tragedy, melancholy, dystopian. Easy, done to death.
Comedy, peace, utopians. Very challenging.

[Anonymous No.15359335]

>>15356590
Easy utopian conflict:
>Be adventurous man with a strong will in a world where everything has already been done
>The emotional releases that everyone else participates in brings you no satisfaction
>Decide that you want to be remembered, even if it's for doing something horrible
ez pz

[Anonymous No.15359717]

People like to read stuff they can relate to, and the real world is more dystopian than utopian

[Anonymous No.15359733]

>>15356590
Because Utopias, even conceptually, don't exist

[Anonymous No.15359739]

Serious fucking question:
10 year or so ago NO ONE knew what "dystopia" meant besides maybe scholars or people who were deeply into the genre.
Then all of the sudden every fucking movie, netflix series and youtube channel starts talking non stop about this shit so that now everyone is just saying "this is so dystopian, so Orwellian" or shit like that.

Now to me it's more than obvious this was a push by the media and publishing houses and whatnot, but why did they do it? You literally see dystopian novels being spammed everywhere now, when before it was something niche.

[Anonymous No.15360014]

>>15359739
>10 year or so ago NO ONE knew what "dystopia" meant
no, 10 years ago you didn't know what it meant. probably because you were a child. the term has been in common use for decades.

[Anonymous No.15360019]

>>15356590
>you can press a button and see more fucking than Genghis Khan ever did
>you can press a button and a burger appears at your door
We are living in a utopia

[Anonymous No.15360027]

>>15359739
10 years ago every fucking boomer was name dropping 1984 to shit on Obama, the only dystopia (and book) they've probably read.
Dystopian novels aren't even that good of a market anymore, it's mostly become a starter pack tier genre of 20th century stuff

[Anonymous No.15360032]

>>15360027
Obama deserves to be shat upon. Obama was an evil psychopath, and Trump is an evil idiot.

[Anonymous No.15360359]

Brave New World is not a dystopia. Fight me

[Anonymous No.15360835]

>>15357723
Why isn't Africa producing great art then?

[Anonymous No.15360841]

>>15356590
Dystopia is easily to relate to.

[Anonymous No.15360964]

I just want a basic drama set in an utopian world. I'm interested to see how someone would frame interpersonal conflicts in an utopian context: would certain motivators no longer apply? Would the Utopia breed other kinds of interpersonal infringement? What would it mean to transgress in an utopian society (and not in any edgy way)?
I'm sick of "Utopia turns out to be dystopia!" Narratives. They're so boring and easy and empty.

[Anonymous No.15361956]

>>15359733
Neither do dystopians
Okay!?

[Anonymous No.15363481]

>>15360359
It's a dystopia if you think that future is bad

[Anonymous No.15363634]

>>15356590
they are the same thing, how would a """utopia""" happen without the extreme restriction of human rights?

[Anonymous No.15363728]

Those ecotopia books were pretty good

[Anonymous No.15363766]

>>15363634
Human rights are nothing but flavor of the month moral relativism

[Anonymous No.15363987]

>>15357723
>imagine the world bro except it sucks hah
Argument goes both way

[Anonymous No.15364142]

because Utopia is an impossible state there's nothing relatable or realistic about them. Only work or utopian fiction is the story those who walk away from omelas because it shows just how unlikely they are