/lit/ on how to attain indifference towards women

[Anonymous No.15255637]

This isn't about sexual celibacy. I rarely have sexual thoughts anymore. I once read here, that the Buddha said you shouldn't just retrain from having physical/sexual thoughts, but one mustn't take even the slightest emotional pleasure when it comes to women. Whenever a woman smiles, flirts or is being intimate with me, it really disgusts me knowing that a part of me is really happy. I've heard that many anons here have obtained complete apathy for women. What did you read/practice?

[Anonymous No.15256098]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.15256307]

>>15255637
>Implying apathy towards women is desirable
Simpathy is a good trait to have. Towards women or men. It should come easier when you're dealing with women, your hormones give you a helping hand.

[Anonymous No.15256355]

>>15256307
I'm talking about romantic and other emotional feelings towards a woman. Empathy is important. We should emphasize with our fellow human beings. Women are humans too. Just remove the Romantic aspect of it, for me.

[Anonymous No.15256365]

>>15255637
Why do you wanna attain that anon? What is your endgame?

[Anonymous No.15256379]

>>15255637
>Whenever a woman smiles, flirts or is being intimate with me
Never happens to me so i have no possible romantic feels or whatever to worry about.

[Anonymous No.15256392]

>>15256365
Free from desire.

[Anonymous No.15256398]

>>15256379
But I assume you want it to happen? If you don't, tell me how you got over it, the feeling.

[Anonymous No.15256400]

>>15256307
>Simpathy
Did you do this on purpose

[Anonymous No.15256402]

Just get into several relationships where the women lie to you, cheat on you with someone close to you, alienate your friends, nag you to no end, use personal things you shared with them to hurt you, show that they care predominantly about status and money... Do that several times and then you should stop idealizing them. That's what I did and look at me now.

[Anonymous No.15256417]

>>15256402
But, wouldn't that make you really depressed?

[Anonymous No.15256441]

>>15255637
Some part of me at the back of my mind sometimes, but i know it never will so i just don't think about it 90% of the time. I really just don't interact enough with women to care, it's just a fantasy at this point.

[Anonymous No.15256473]

>>15256441
meant for >>15256398
Also i always idealized social situations in my head, but on the rare occasion they do happen i end up not really enjoying it at all. I assume it would be similar with women probably just cope on my end, but without experience i cant say

[Anonymous No.15256480]

>>15256417
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15256532]

>>15255637
>Whenever a woman smiles, flirts or is being intimate with me, it really disgusts me knowing that a part of me is really happy.
based and beautiful post anon

[Anonymous No.15256550]

>>15256392
It's a mental endeavor. It has to be an intrinsic alteration of how you logical perceive sexuality. You must logically and rigorously go through the reasons why cleaving to the sex instinct is futile.

[Anonymous No.15256555]

>>15256402
yeah date a BPD girl, that'll work too

[Anonymous No.15256573]

>>15256392
Read the Bible

[Anonymous No.15256602]

>>15256573
Not OP but would this actually work?
I want to attain something similar.

[Anonymous No.15256638]

>>15255637
Get married.

[Anonymous No.15257302]

>>15256402
My boss dated a girl for years she got nocked up by his best friend and tolled him the kid was his until it was born. My other boss was going to his son's wedding but it got cancelled because the bride cheated on him with his best friend. As for myself I'v become indifferent towards women after hearing these stories and many more.

[Anonymous No.15258006]

>>15255637
Either date a girl and have your heart broken, or become a chad and fuck many girls to see how loose and lost they really are.

[Anonymous No.15258042]

>>15255637
Become a Good Will Hunting-esque genius.

[Anonymous No.15258081]

>>15256400
Either way I'm only spelling it like that from now on

[Anonymous No.15258095]

>>15255637
Just remember they are average people and a lot of them are awkward-looking. A woman flirting or whatever is a red flag because she knows that she is average and is hoping you can make her feel otherwise. They come and go

[Anonymous No.15258972]

Yes. Women always want something from you, all of this while usually not willing to put a single second of their time to have it. Basically expecting you to want them because they want you.
If you are pretty, they love you, or at worst, treat you like a normal human being. If you aren't, well i have bad news for you.
Women will always be on the lookout for possible mates, even if in a relationship. Even the 'most respectable of them'. They say they're faithful but they hide under the veil of 'passively looking' which is consciously making themselves more approachable by other males, which under their eyes, is doing 'nothing wrong' because you can't prove they did anything. Once their 'other option' is secured, you're a mere memory of the past.
Even when in a relationships, or having lived years with them they're always shit-testing you; randomly, out of nowhere. They do it in order to know whether or not they still want you and in order to test if they can manipulate you today.
They are emotional beings whenever it comes to anything that benefits them. But whenever it comes down to being honest for the sake of empathy they have none of that. They don't really think of others, they only thing of what's best for them and behave so.
Although i mentioned this earlier, in the section where i spoke about women and how they shit-test you to see how far can they go, let me remark how many and how frequent their 'mind-games' are, emotional manipulation. It's good for them. Weak man fall for it over fear of 'losing' the woman. Strong men know that if you let them get a single inch you lose the war.

Never forget that a dog is more faithful than a woman and that they are trying to manipulate you all of the time. They try to get in your thoughts but you can't let them. Remember this.

[Anonymous No.15258977]

You don't. It's part of human nature, sex is our biological purpose in life.

[Anonymous No.15259003]

>>15255637
read MahaPrajnaParamita-Sastra by Nagarjuna

[Anonymous No.15259144]

I spent many years doing a weird autistic version of womanizing and philandering. At some point I guess I just broke. I don't see any relationship with women as inherently meaningful anymore, I don't crave companionship with "women" in the abstract. I still enjoy it if they're actually a cool person, but I don't feel that desire many guys seem to have (and I guess I used to have?) to be in a relationship for the sake of a relationship.

I still feel the sexual tug though, and I'm mostly bored of it. Sex is gay.

[Anonymous No.15259156]

>>15257302
I always hate it when I reference the exact same types of story's you stated as reasons I don't even bother with women anymore and get the "Well not everyone is like that" or "That's because he didn't do x at the time of y sweetie, just don't do that". The levels of cope when it comes to justifying women's behavior is fucking astonishing.

[Anonymous No.15259158]

>>15255637

> I've heard that many anons here have obtained complete apathy for women

they're either larping, gay, or castrated themselves. you will never not feel the attraction, the only thing you need to do is stop identifying with it. the same applies for any other feeling

[Anonymous No.15259485]

>>15259158
You're projecting now.

[Anonymous No.15259945]

>>15255637
I find that just maintaining an awareness about my impulsive reactions towards the feminine form and recognizing and beholding one when it manifests is kind of a fun hobby. It's kind of like intercepting a pass between your environment and your reaction to it. Just hold on to it and look it at, then throw it away, or let it continue. And think how interesting it is that those little convective bubbles of behavior rise in you - and not just about women but about everything.

[Anonymous No.15259961]

>>15259945
I would to say that it's interesting because women count on you not to intercept that impulse - they are used to men reacting kneejerk to the impulses they deliberately instigate - and they know they are unattractive when it doesn't work - if they see you intercept that impulse, process it, and not react to it, they will be more impressed with you since that is the reaction of a man who is a master of women.

[Anonymous No.15260766]

>>15256638
>How to avoid getting bitten by a snake?
>Make sure you coil the snake around you and let it bite you.

[Anonymous No.15260822]

>>15259945
That's basically the Buddhist view of it, because being so concerned with not feeling pleasure is still clinging to pleasure

[Anonymous No.15260834]

>>15260822
Can you rec some Buddhist books on it, specially on women? It seems I can handle everything except not having a lover.

[Anonymous No.15260842]

>>15255637
/lit/erally just ignore them and focus on doing something actually productive with your time like building farms in Minecraft

[Anonymous No.15260882]

[Anonymous No.15260897]

>>15255637
>apathy for women. What did you read/practice?
depression

[Anonymous No.15260916]

>>15255637
>Buddha
Obsoleted by Shankara.

[Anonymous No.15260939]

>>15260882
Based.

[Anonymous No.15260955]

>>15260916
>i love intellectual rambling on tertiary sources

the state of bourgeois

[Anonymous No.15260960]

>>15260822
>because being so concerned with not feeling pleasure is still clinging to pleasure
That's wrong and on the level of mahayana stupidity.

[Anonymous No.15260977]

>>15259156
>The levels of cope when it comes to justifying women's behavior is fucking astonishing.
I'm not even trying to defend them but you have to aknowledge that the potential for emotional suffering goes both ways, my man.

[Anonymous No.15261187]

>>15255637
the way to stop valuing women is the knowledge that valuing women is not the way to be happy and being skilled at mediation where you will be happy without eternal objects

[Anonymous No.15261396]

>>15256402
literally me

[Anonymous No.15261654]

>>15258972
Women are just like dogs and should be treated as such. Would you let your dog do something you don't like and get away with it? No, and you shouldn't for women.

[Anonymous No.15262822]

>>15260834
I dont think you need a book - you just need to practice being aware - go look at some porn, there's a time between your seeing the porn and masturbating where you feel an "urge" - your dick begins to stiffen, your prostate begins to swell, your brain loses all thought of anything except the need to feel pleasure - behold that moment. Hold it in your mind - all the feelings, thoughts, and urges. Let it linger and say to yourself "this is what an urge is". Feel it and continue to feel it. Then let it go or satisfy it. But practice this. Now you can also go to /lit/ or some other website and read something that offends you - you feel your muscle tense, your disgust rises, the need to respond vigorously to some outrageous claim or statement engulfs fills your mind, you begin to feel hate or anger - hold that moment. Perform no action and let it linger - and behold it. Consider it - all the bodily sensations you feel with it - the stimulus that instigated it - the behavior you wish to perform - and see it for what it is - an impulse. I think what I'm doing when I do this is really drawing out the time between stimulus and response enough to control and observe what happens in-between, the urge.

[Anonymous No.15262880]

>>15262822
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.15262919]

>>15255637
Remember that two really hot Brazilian girls made 2 girls 1 cup. No matter how hot they are, they ain’t shit.

[Anonymous No.15262939]

>>15257302
Know a guy who’s wife left him, but drags out the divorce because half his money wasn’t enough, forcing him to spend more money on more court appointments so that she can try and take more of his stuff. And he has to pay her lawyer. And it’s been going on for yeeeears. I dunno how he hasn’t snapped and put her in a fridge yet.

[Anonymous No.15262983]

>>15255637
Unironically just search for scholarly articles on evolutionary psychology. It really takes the magic away from relationships when you realize you were basically programmed by nature to feel how you feel.
It even gives you the motivation to overcome the programming and tell nature to fuck itself.

[Anonymous No.15263608]

>>15262919
>hot Brazilian girls made 2 girls 1 cup
Hot.

[Anonymous No.15264975]

>>15262983
I wonder if humans are the only animals that completely "fall in love" or are there others. I heard that Penguins mate for life.

[Anonymous No.15265046]

Strange how /lit/ hate reductionism, but really loves applying it to women.

[Anonymous No.15265074]

>booked that will make me a fag?

[Anonymous No.15265080]

>>15264975
There are many animals that are not only monogamous but much more so than humans who properly speaking are in between monogamy and polygamy.

[Anonymous No.15265126]

>>15255637
>how to attain indifference towards women
Just look at them. They're fucking disgusting, at least the ones around my age (late 20s) and older. Maybe it's harder for underage/college age anons. Switch over to looking at anime girls and your lust will become a strength.

[Anonymous No.15265185]

>>15265126
>Switch over to looking at anime girls and your lust will become a strength.
That's dangerous, though. You'll start idealizing love because 2D are so perfect and then you'll become depressed when you realise you can't find them in real life.

[Anonymous No.15265269]

>>15255637
>I've heard that many anons here have obtained complete apathy for women. What did you read/practice?
Nofap did this for me

>start nofap 1/1/2020
>after 2 weeks the urge to rape everything waned and balls got heavy
>in my daily flirtations with females my thought process changed to thinking they are not worthy of my massive, pent up load
>eventually had a massive wet dream destroying me sheets and confidence
>the cycle continues

[Anonymous No.15266291]

>>15265269
I feel miserable everytime I jerk off. I want to start Nofap but I feel I'll still feel miserable after having a wet dream. How about you anon? Does it get better?

[Anonymous No.15266309]

>>15262983
I just read the entire wikipedia page aboyt mating in humans and all that shit incels say are fucking true
Wew lad, looks like everything is a fucking chimera of our mind