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alright, I've decided I want to have a go at learning to read French, but I have now idea what the best way to go about doing so is. My only thought is reading a load of children's books to learn the rudimentary rules and vocabulary and then moving up from there. So I'd like to ask anyone who has managed to learn the language to a decent level of fluency, what are some of the best methods/resources that they used while learning the language?

>> No.15244584

Listen to all 4 pimsluer courses then buy the full scale linguaphone and assimil courses.

>> No.15244588

>>15244559
Jean de La Fontaine

So many fables we had to learn by heart

>> No.15244665

>>15244559

Bump

J’essaye aussi d’apprendre

>> No.15244977

>>15244559
Le petit prince

>> No.15245114

French rap music and comics is all you need, m8

>> No.15245155

>>15245114
any in particular?

>> No.15245162

>>15245114
Comics are for smoothbrains and usually contain smut. Pass.

>> No.15245167

>>15245155
They used Asterix comics to teach us french. As for rap I can recommend Grand Corps Malade

>> No.15245168

>>15244559
I studied the grammar on and off for a year and then jumped into its literature with a dictionary

>> No.15245242

>>15245155

Jolies Ténèbres

>> No.15245245

>>15245168
what kinds of stuff did you start off with?

>> No.15245252

>>15244584
The only non meme advice in this thread.

>> No.15245588

>>15244559
Get French in Action off rutracker

>> No.15245624

>>15244559
i taught myself to understand and read basic german. I'd say I'm around b1 reading level. now i just read books with the help of DeepL which, in my mind, is far superior than dual-text books. can't really be bothered to use anki anymore even though I know it would still help. the way i see it Ill get the repetition via reading exposure anyway.

French for Reading is a good grammar and workbook a lot of folks recommend. I use the German version.

>> No.15245863

Get on duolingo or lingodeer and finish all the courses there. Then start reading news articles and books, and all that stuff.

Then do something to learn how to actually speak it, as it's not the same thing as reading or writing it.

>> No.15245869

>>15244559
Try reading Tintin

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>>15244559
I started with Michel Thomas and Duolingo (the website is better than the app). Pic rel is quite helpful and then something a little harder like Le Petit Prince, reading an english translation alongside is fine too if you need it. Also, generally immersng yourself in french language music, podcasts, films etc will obviously help. Rohmer's films are good for learning because there's a lot of dialogue, watch with french subs.

>> No.15246099

>>15244559

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfwQXJ0ZVM&t=5677s

Watch this series over and over until you know it by heart. Congrats, you now have a high school understanding of French. Then proceed to reading simple things.

>> No.15246132

>>15245245
Maupassant is a great start. He writes with clarity and simplicity besides some flowery words here and there.

>> No.15246203

>>15246132
I don't think there'd be any point starting with Maupassant if I literally know about 3 words in french

>> No.15246305

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1089240419

>> No.15246383

>>15244559
The Three Musketeers and it's sequels, "20 ans plus tard" and "Le vicomte de Bragelonne".

Don't believe the shitty adaptations, it's great.

D'Artagnan on how to handle a servant asking to get paid:

>D’Artagnan réfléchit et se résolut à rouer Planchet par provision, ce qui fut exécuté avec la conscience que d’Artagnan mettait en toutes choses ; puis, après l’avoir bien rossé, il lui défendit de quitter son service sans sa permission. « Car, ajouta-t-il, l’avenir ne peut me faire faute ; j’attends inévitablement des temps meilleurs. Ta fortune est donc faite si tu restes près de moi, et je suis trop bon maître pour te faire manquer ta fortune en t’accordant le congé que tu me demandes. » Cette manière d’agir donna beaucoup de respect aux mousquetaires pour la politique de d’Artagnan. Planchet fut également saisi d’admiration et ne parla plus de s’en aller

>> No.15246509

Right lads I've started listening to the Michel Thomas vids on YT just to see see how things are meant to sound and to get some basic grammar and what have you. I've been writing down anything longer that's said and so far I've learnt ce n'est pas tres confortable pour moi. Pretty chuffed ngl

>> No.15246519

>>15246509
Nice one anon :)

>> No.15246552

>go on pirate bay
>look up "french graded readers"
>download it
>read the books with the complimentary audio playing in the background
studying grammar and falling for snake oil like Duolingo (though the stories and podcast can be somewhat useful) won't help you acquire a language; only comprehensible input, such as reading and listening, will allow you to.

>> No.15246583

>>15245245
I found Kundera pretty easy to read when I was starting.

>> No.15246593

>>15245114
>French rap music
cringe

>> No.15246753

Any books about conventions in French literature? I can speak fine French but a lot of common expressions, idioms, slang, tradition are still foreign to me.

>> No.15246764

>>15244559
When I was a kid there was a book collection specially for reading your first books, it was called Bibliothèque rose. But I don't know if you can find the old ones, I just checked and the collection still exists but publishes only modern girly Disney garbage.
At school our first reading lessons were based on the comic Boule et Bill, I recommend. I also learned to read with Picsou, le Petit Spirou and Gaston Lagaffe. If you play games you can try old jRPGs. After all I learned a lot of english like that.

>> No.15246807
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>>15244559
Watch French Cartoons, watch french movies, watch french shows, read french cartoons. Listen to french commentaries for your favorite video games. Listen to french music. Speak french, write french. Learn how to cook by watching french youtube shows.
Whatever you would do in english, do it in french.
t. Baséd

>> No.15246816

>>15246753
see
>>15246807

>> No.15246839

>>15246764
>Bibliothèque rose
Looks like you can find a lot of their publications on archive.org. Thanks, BTW.

>> No.15246854

>>15244559
Alright all the advice in this thread is crap, and I am here to help you. I've learnt to read french semi-fluently the last couple of months.
(I read Le Petit Prince, for instance)

If you have absolutely no familiarity with the language, download a pdf (or buy the book) that teaches it with the nature method. The language starts hilariously simply, and gets harder through the book. You can find all these books free online (b-ok.xyz, or I'll send you the link), they are very old so some are even impossible to find otherwise:

> First French Book - Worman
> Sceond French Book - Worman
> La Francais par la Méthode Nature - Arthur Jensen

I'd also check out the Ilya Frank books. I used Le Petit Prince, and it was fantastic. Each book has every paragraph written twice. Once in French, and the second time in French, with the english translation in parenthesis.

You can find Le Petit Prince here:
> http://english.franklang.ru/index.php/french/5-french-with-the-little-prince

You can also use French For Reading by Sandberg while you are doing all of this. It is more grammar focused, but teaches you in a way where you don't have to memorize dumb conjugations and shit. You'll find it on bo-k.xyz


Number one tip is to learn French in English, if you understand what I mean. I learnt French first from Norwegian in school, and barely learnt anything. English to French is much closer, and the lots of words are similar, so it helps closing the gap.

>> No.15246921

>>15246816
Well yeah of course it's a given. But still sometimes there are specific books useful for that sort of thing. I'm thinking even of something like what Elements of Style serves for English.

>> No.15246940

>>15244559
Learning a foreign language is a meme. Total useless for the average person.

>> No.15246943

>>15246940
So is reading a book

>> No.15246991

>>15246943
Jokes on you. I havent read a book since I left school 15 years ago. Im just here to ruin the board for people who actually read and want to discuss books lol

>> No.15246993

>>15246940
maybe so but I really want to read their poetry. And I already know two languages fluently (this and Polish) so maybe I have a somewhat better chance at learning it than someone who only speaks one. And I've got nothing better to do with my time anyways

>> No.15247009

>>15246993
Why dont you just write your own poetry?

>> No.15247014

I'm just looking for a french bf! hit me up you sexy boys!

>> No.15247024

>>15247014
Here I am

>> No.15247036

>>15247024
What age are you sexy boy? What part of france are you from?

>> No.15247051

>>15247036
Im 28 and Im from a small village near Auxerre

>> No.15247059

>>15247051
Oh. That's way too old for me. I don't date old men.

>> No.15247069

>>15247059
Im young at heart, sweetie and I can make love to you through the whole night

>> No.15247078

>>15247069
Okay I'm sold! Meet me under the eiffel tower tonight at midnight. We'll kiss, contract corona and die in each others arms! How romantic!

>> No.15247086

>>15247078
Sacre bleu!

>> No.15247094

>>15247009
no one can just write their own and expect it to be any good if they haven't read any that's good. Even Shakespeare had multiple different major influences on his work. And anyways I genuinely enjoy reading poetry and want to read some of the frenchie big boys (Baudelair, Rimbaud, Mallarme etc.) and I believe that at least with poetry there's no point reading a translation

>> No.15247100

>>15247086
Btw Don't worry. I'm 27. Of course I date old men, I am one!

>> No.15247107

>>15246854
alright cheers mate, send us them links and be sure to make use of them

>> No.15247110

>>15247100
Jokes on you, Im a black, curvy woman from New Orleans

>> No.15247118

>>15245167
never heard of Grand Corps Malade but he is a veritable poet, he shows the beauty of french.

>> No.15247120

>>15247094
You have already great poetry I guess, you just dont have read french poetry.
Work on you own poetry. Its better then wasting your time on learning a language.

>> No.15247129

>>15247110
Don't suppose you know anne rice no? I'm looking for a hook up.

>> No.15247130

>>15247120
I think you should try to learn English first before slagging me off

>> No.15247225

>>15246854
> La Francais par la Méthode Nature - Arthur Jensen: https://b-ok.cc/book/2884211/99cec2

> First french book https://archive.org/details/firstfrenchbook00wormgoog/page/n28/mode/2up

> Second french book
https://archive.org/download/secondfrenchbook00worm/secondfrenchbook00worm.pdf

This thread got lots of resources also:
>>/lit/thread/14802552

>> No.15247231

>>15247225
>>15247107
forgot to tag you.

>> No.15247332

>>15247129
Isnt that the bitch who wrote the Interview with a vampire books?

>> No.15247349

>>15247130
No. Like I said: learning a language is wasted time

>> No.15247474

>>15246991
Hahaha based!

>> No.15247655

>>15247118
>>15245167

Lol. No. Grand corps Malade in mainstream shit. It's SJW rap.
Try Mc Solaar, NTM, Doc Gyneco, IAM.