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>> No.15230229

Anyone got an epub of this?

>> No.15230233

>>15229923
This book destroys incel boards

>> No.15230237

>>15229923
based

>> No.15230245
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>> No.15230261

>Carlo Michelstaedter was born in Gorizia, the capital of the Austro-Hungarian County of Gorizia and Gradisca, the youngest of four children of Albert and Emma Michelstaedter Coen Luzzatto. His older siblings were Gino (1877–1909), Elda (1879–1944), Paula (1885–1972). His full name was Carlo Raimondo (Gedaliah Ram). His father was the director of the local branch of the Trieste-based Assicurazioni Generali insurance company. The Michelstaedters were an Italian-speaking upper middle class Jewish family of Ashkenazi origin.
I'm afraid this shall be a skip for me

>> No.15230263

>this makes idealists kill themselves
absolutely based

>> No.15230278

>>15230261
if you skip all the jews, you'll be missing out on a lot of good stuff :) i say that as an anti-semite

>> No.15230288

he was 100% right about personal will but the book is filled with sentimentalism

>> No.15230303

>>15230261
That’s a shame because I’m extremely right wing and this book had a profound influence on me like no other.

>> No.15230306

>>15230261
tfw very intelligent

>> No.15230308

>>15230278
I prefer not to risk falling prey to their surversive ways. Plus, a jewish mind is dull by its very nature.

>> No.15230316

>>15230288
What makes you say that? Do you have an example?

>> No.15230350

>Around the fall of 1910, he completed his work, finishing the appendices by 17 October. He was very tired, and that day he had a fight with his mother, who complained he had not wished her a happy birthday. Left alone, Carlo took a loaded pistol he kept in the house and killed himself with two shots.
Is there anything worse than a Jewish mother?

>> No.15230352

>>15230316
i suppose you're asking about the sentimental part. have you read the book? an example off the top of my head is that part when he describes the senses after death

>> No.15230354

>>15230308
>omg they're so subversive!!!!!
>they're all dull too... no sour grapes here
How are they in charge of everything if they're not as smart as you, dumdum?

>> No.15230365

>>15230308
yeah but carlo was really more in line with greek thought than any form of jewish thought, he also hated himself and took his life, so he was probably anti-semitic too lmao i put him in the same field as weininger, based j*ws

>> No.15230373

>>15230245
Amazing cover. A shame that version is thrice as expensive as the plain paperback.

>> No.15230394
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>>15230350
I wish Abigail was my mommy

>> No.15230434

>>15230354
I'm not so prideful and have no problems admitting that I, too, can be affected by clever wordplay and subversive reasoning. Nobody is impenetrable. And when I said that jews are dull I didn't mean that they lack practical wits required to peddle and swindle their way to the top, I meant that I simply find them, as a culture and ethnic identity, to be dull.

>> No.15230440

>>15230352
I did read it. It had a big impact on me at the risk of sounding cliché. I didn’t pick up on too much sentimentalism at first but now I do see what you’re saying. I’m normally pretty averse to that sort of thing, but I think in this case it might have made the book better for me.

>> No.15230515

>>15230261
based and red-pilled my brother

>> No.15230532
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I long for the day where I'm freed from the veil of philopsychia.

>> No.15230536

All I know about this guy is Evola loved him and he killed himself

>> No.15230609

>>15230261
>Born in Austria-Hungary
>Italian speaking
>Jewish ancestry

What a mess lmao

>> No.15230648

>>15230536
because Ebola himself was a pessimist

>> No.15230731

>>15230536
>>15230648
I heard that Evola wanted to kill himself after reading him but then he discovered Buddhism just before, which saved him. Because if Michelstaedter perfectly understood the first 2 of the 4 noble truths of the Buddha (dukkha : the cosmic suffering-dissatisfaction, and its causes), a Buddhist could say that he had not discovered the last 2, which are the remedy that the Buddha brought, hence his suicide because he couldn't see any way out.

>> No.15230739

>>15230532
Thank anon i'll look at this book

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>>/lit/thread/S15194849#p15194962

>> No.15230804

>>15230731
That’s not accurate. He wrote an essay regarding his thoughts on Michelstäedter, who influenced a lot of people in Italy in the 20th Century by the way.

>> No.15230825

>>15230804
>That’s not accurate.

When he was about 23 years old, Evola considered suicide. He claimed that he avoided suicide thanks to a revelation he had while reading an early Buddhist text that dealt with shedding all forms of identity other than absolute transcendence.[6] Evola would later publish the text The Doctrine of Awakening, which he regarded as a repayment of his debt to Buddhism for saving him from suicide.[35]

>> No.15230839

>>15230755
Have sex

>> No.15230878

>>15230825
Yeah but it wasn’t his reading of Michelstäedter which compelled him to being suicidal. That’s a common thing you hear about this book that I really don’t understand.

>> No.15230888

>>15230878
Oh okay
Ty anon

>> No.15230900

>>15230804
>who influenced a lot of people in Italy in the 20th Century by the way.

Elaborate, please.

>> No.15230903

>>15230825
i am so glad Evola didn't killed himself. If that happened he wouldn't be able to achieve his peak relevance: being a beacon to larping fascists in a korean basket weaving forum

>> No.15230935

>>15230903
kek

>> No.15230956

>>15230229
I've turned a pdf into epub through calibre
the book is small so there aren't many issues

>> No.15230958

>>15230903

kek

>> No.15230963

>>15230308
jews are neurotic, for good and bad
this means they are either extremely evil or extremely based

>> No.15230977

>>15230350
a Jewish mother who gave birth to a Jewish girl

>> No.15231074

>>15230731
recommend me readings on those 4 noble truths friend, I'm in dire need

>> No.15231084

>>15230900
He was pretty influential on early 20th Century Italian thought, culture, and even politics. There’s even still a statue of him in Gorizia I believe. A pretty good book on Michelstäedter is The Wreckage of Philosophy and there’s another by a professor of Italian at University of Texas whose name I can’t recall right now. I also know there’s a philosopher in Italy who’s taken up some Michelstaedter’s ideas but I don’t recall his name either right now. He’s mentioned in the books I mentioned regardless. I personally think there’s some pretty strong parallels between him and Weininger in Germany for both obvious and not-so-obvious reasons.

>> No.15231087

>>15230963
a true redpill

>> No.15231123

/board
only occurs when a gf enters an anon's life.

>> No.15231166

>>15231084
>he was pretty relevant, I just can't recall a single name to whom.
Anon the only relevant thing he did was icing himself.

>> No.15231173

>>15230261
If you want to learn how to be subversive. You learn from the source which tend to be Jews.

>> No.15231232

>>15231084
>>15230900
The Failure of Language and the Tragedy of Thought are the other two books.

>>15231166
The question wasn’t to name a single person who was influenced by him. Why the total embrace of dishonesty and ignorance?

>> No.15231254

>>15231173
This is exhibit A of why the modern far right is so utterly moronic and frankly, a joke.

>> No.15231308

>>15231232
Sorry, that was rude. But not being able to pinpoint a single instance of philosophical significance shows that "pretty influential" might be a stretch.

>> No.15231365

>>15231254
Jews aren't involved in subversive groups at a disproportionate rate?

>> No.15231454

>>15231084
>A pretty good book on Michelstäedter is The Wreckage of Philosophy and there’s another by a professor of Italian at University of Texas whose name I can’t recall right now.

Mimmo Cangiano, thanks a lot!

>> No.15231523

>>15231308
Again, that wasn’t the ask. If you want an extremely specific example, Giovanni Gentile, who the pre-eminent thinker of early 20th Century Italy, is one. He gave his thinking both praise and criticism. Even if not directly credited to Michelstäedter, the themes and ideas he discussed have been developed by thinkers from Martin Heidegger to Georges Bataille. Besides, I wasn’t just alluding to him being a philosophical influence on Italy. He was a cultural icon turned mythic figure and he was in fact influential on that there at that time whether you would want to believe or not. There’s been tons of scholarly essays and books on him so don’t take my word for it either.

>> No.15231541

>>15231365
I can agree with that but the right wing obsession with labeling anything remotely associated with Jews as subversive is nothing but harmful. They’re so desperate to find their enemy in Jews that they consistently miss the bigger picture and miss out on authors like this.

>> No.15231548

>>15231454
Daniela Bini is another one.

>> No.15231614

>>15231541
Fuckoff bootlicker

>> No.15231640

>>15231548
Thanks.

>I also know there’s a philosopher in Italy who’s taken up some Michelstaedter’s ideas but I don’t recall his name either right now.

Luigi Pirandello?

>> No.15231650

>>15231614
Exhibit B. Thanks.

>> No.15231683

>>15231640
No. It’s a contemporary academic. I want to say Emanuele Severino but I’m not sure.

>> No.15231723

>>15231683
Franco Volpi perhaps?

>> No.15231750

>>15231723
I really don’t recall. Sorry. I want to say Severino because I know he drew from Martin Heidegger and if you haven’t read Michelstäedter, I’ll think you’ll find similarities with Heidegger.

>> No.15231808

>>15230394
post the profile view

>> No.15231859
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>Exhibit B. Thanks.

>> No.15231916

>>15231523
thanks

>> No.15231991

>>15231074
In the Buddha's Words -- Bhikkhu Bodhi
What the Buddha Taught - Walpola Rahula

Both available on the net

>> No.15232005

>>15230229
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=98F3AF7D4DF2B170240CCAA885506D53
Pdf is what I found, sorry

>> No.15232058

>>15231074
>>15231991
+

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Noble_Truths
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Du%E1%B8%A5kha
https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/NobleStrategy/Section0004.html

>> No.15232100

>>15230731
he saw the way out, he just couldn't actualize it. that's what persuasion is