/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15223509]

>In the end, we were the Starship Troopers.
Didn't see that one coming.

[Anonymous No.15224916]

>>15223509
>In the end, it was an ugly planet. A bug planet. That's all over once we ride up... Troy's bucket.
Wow. Just wow.

[Anonymous No.15225150]

>>15223509
Love that book, especially the political philosophy. The moral stuff though is just cringy reddit-tier atheism. There's no such thing as "a scientific system of morality that's mathematically proven."

[Anonymous No.15225732]

>>15225150
lol don't tell me you're a moral relativist.

[Anonymous No.15225810]

>>15225150
The book was written way back and is set in the future. Heinlein assumed people would be getting better calculators.

[Anonymous No.15225814]

>>15223509
I love the book, but I think it's pretty cringy how so many people assume Heinlein was a fascist.

[Anonymous No.15225832]

>>15225814
Explain how, while not necessarily fascist, the book isn’t a mouthpiece for Heinleins opinion on how things ought to be? I’m actually curious.

[Anonymous No.15225978]

>>15225732
trying to prove morality mathematically with scientific system is what a moral relativist would do

[Anonymous No.15225984]

>I'm actually from Philippines and I say kill em' all!

[Anonymous No.15226420]

>>15225832
Because authors can write about interesting political ideas without actually supporting said ideas?

[Anonymous No.15226705]

The movie was more fascist than the book.

[Anonymous No.15227987]

>>15226705
Brainlet

[Anonymous No.15228664]

The superior book

[Anonymous No.15228720]

>"Yer a Wizard Knight, Able!"
Really?

[Anonymous No.15228919]

>Behold, it is I, robot!
Seriously Asimov?

[Anonymous No.15229083]

>>15228664
>I guess the strongest armor is the one that covers our emotions
In all seriousness it's good though, jack Crowe detour is annoying at times though

[Anonymous No.15229244]

>>15228919
kek

[Anonymous No.15229252]

>>15223509
back to your sci fi fantasy containment fag thread

[Anonymous No.15229276]

>So finally, Hal thought “this is water” and learned to stop being ironic and stopped doing drugs and watching TV and Don Gately did too. Infinite Jest. The End.

What did DFW mean by this?

[Anonymous No.15229363]

>Look at this inspector next to his body, it looks like some sort of painting
>Ah it seems after all these years he has become The Picture Of Dorian Gray, truly this says a lot about our society *stares directly at the reader*
>The End

[Anonymous No.15230165]

>>15228664
Based

[Anonymous No.15230217]

>>15225150

Loved these book, especially the sociological undertones. The prophetic stuff is just cringy new age-tier nonsense. There's no such thing as "a scientific model through which the general flow of future events can be predicted using the laws of statistics."

[Anonymous No.15230223]

>>15230217

Forgot image

[Anonymous No.15230241]

>>15225150

Loved this book, especially the religious parallels. The visionary stuff is just cringy 60s hippy crap. There's no such thing as "a drug that gives the user a longer life span, greater vitality, and heightened awareness and can also unlock prescience in some people"

[Anonymous No.15230260]

>>15225150

Love this book, especially the romantic and gothic elements. The artificial life is just cringy pseudo-mythological nonsense though. There's no such thing as "a flesh golem"

[Anonymous No.15230301]

>>15225150

Loved this book, especially the friendship between the main characters. The magic stuff is just cringy wish fulfillment thought. There's no such thing as a "school for wizards"

[Anonymous No.15230382]

>>15225150

Love this book, especially the parts about pot and tennis. The sincerity stuff is just cringy pretense though. There's no such thing as "irony"

[Anonymous No.15230599]

>>15225150
Loved this book. The vivid detail of the drinking, the bullfights, the pastoral escape section with the trout fishing. It was all great. Also, the protagonist can't get a boner, which is interesting.

[Anonymous No.15230623]

>>15230599
literally me protagonist

[Anonymous No.15230683]

>>15230623
Also I didn't follow the format of there being 'no such thing as' because I put about as much thought into my post as Dostoevsky put into The Gambler (other relevant /lit/ thread).

[Anonymous No.15230710]

>>15225150
Love this book, especially the moral philosophy. The political stuff though is just cringy 4chan-tier social Darwinism. There's no such thing as a "race-based World-Concept [which] will eventually succeed in creating a noble age where
people’s primary concern is not the improved breeding of dogs, horses, and cats, but the
exaltation of man himself"

[Anonymous No.15230724]

>>15230710

Fucking lol

[Anonymous No.15230733]

>>15225150
>scientific system of morality that's mathematically proven
I cause pain when you do a thing, you stop doing that thing. Scientific morality.

[Anonymous No.15230744]

>>15228664
Literally fanfiction.

[Anonymous No.15230745]

>>15230733

What if not doing it causes me pain?

[Anonymous No.15230787]

>>15225150

Love this book, especially the scenery porn. The different races are just cringy DnD-tier. There's no such thing as "little men who live in holes and smoke pipeweed"

[Anonymous No.15230832]

>Karellen blew on the candles which the Overlords had lit for him, 18 in total, each of them extinguishing as a result of his breath, all but one. He stared at the last candle and thought to himself: Ah, this is Childhood's End. And then he blew out the final candle.
fin

[Anonymous No.15230885]

>tfw saw the CGI movie
not good, lads

[Anonymous No.15230972]

>>15225150

Loved this book, especially because of it's historical and cultural relevance. The worship stuff is just tribal superstitious nonsense though. There's no such thing as "God"

[Anonymous No.15230988]

>>15230787

[Anonymous No.15230999]

>>15230972
This, only unironically.

[Anonymous No.15231092]

>>15230745
I cause more pain than it would cause you not to do it.

[Anonymous No.15231105]

>>15231092

How do I measure how much pain it causes you? How do I know that you're not just faking pain?
The only pain I can measure with any certainty is my own.

[Anonymous No.15231113]

>>15230885
looks pretty nice though, she cute
why isn't it good ?

[Anonymous No.15231143]

>>15231113
I also though she cute, which is why i saved the webm. I have a fetish for millitary girls torturing/abusing guys.

[Anonymous No.15231153]

>>15231143
Don't we all, don't we all.

[Anonymous No.15231167]

>>15230999
>>15230972

Live Atheist in 2020? Now thats something

[Anonymous No.15231180]

>>15231153
>tfw ill never be raped to death by a qt fascist officer for betrayal against an intergalactic fascist superstate
why even live

[Anonymous No.15231195]

>>15230885
she's cute, is her voice cute? is there any lewd?

[Anonymous No.15231210]

>>15225150
ST was fucking great, reads easy and I love the writing style. Has a good punch to it. "On the bounce..." it just rolls off the tongue. Not sure how I feel entirely about the philosophical aspects of it, because some of it was okay like I don't mind his concepts of citizenry but i think it's a bit excessive e.g. the President can only be a fucking Admiral? kinda retarded. But anyway, it's an overall good book.

[Anonymous No.15231217]

>>15231180
Starship troopers isn't about fascism brainlet

[Anonymous No.15231226]

>>15231210
>President can only be a fucking Admiral?
I thought so as well, but in retrospect it doesnt seem too bad. It feels like Plato's Republic in space, with the Federation being built to prevent a coward or non-millitary person from ruling what is basically a millitary dictatorship.

[Anonymous No.15231268]

>>15231226
Yeah i got that at least, also an Admiral has to presumably go through quite a lot of academic and intellectual work too. Admiral's are usually high IQ people that have to make large operational and strategical decisions with cutting edge technology. I understand that, at least, but it just feels excessive. Regardless, it is essentially a military dictatorship but the other interesting part is it doesn't seem particularly authoritarian outside of some harsh punishments against criminals. But, i'm not even sure I disagree with some of that concepts either.

[Anonymous No.15231306]

>>15231195
It's the 2012 animated Starship Troopers movie. It's made in Japan, so it might have some good stuff

[Anonymous No.15231323]

>>15231306
>made in Japan
So that's why it looks good
based japs

[Anonymous No.15231339]

>>15231323
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers:_Invasion
Straight to vid apparently, so youd expect it to look like a PS2 cutscene.

[Anonymous No.15231342]

>>15223509

>"Phew! Touvarisch, the Moon really is a Harsh Mistress!"

Bravo, Heinlein

[Anonymous No.15231575]

>>15225150

Loved this book, especially the wit and the prose. The story itself is cringe lunacy. There's no such thing as a "man who ages backwards"

[Anonymous No.15231768]

>>15231167
Deus vult my fellow Christian warrior!!

[Anonymous No.15231902]

>>15223509
Can we stop these low effort threads please

[Anonymous No.15231914]

>>15223509
What are we, some kind of Starship Troopers?

[Anonymous No.15231920]

>>15230972
>Making a positive claim about the existence of God.

[Anonymous No.15232343]

>>15230260
the monster did nothing wrong, frankenstein deserved worse

[Anonymous No.15233691]

>>15232343

Based

[Anonymous No.15233734]

>“and when he came to, he was flat on his back on the beach in the freezing sand, and it was raining out of a low sky, and the tide was infinite...infinite jest”

jesus, what a hack

[Anonymous No.15233789]

>>15225150

Loved this book, especially the poetic philosphy. The metaphysical stuff is just cringy reddit-tier atheism. There's no such thing as "the Übermensch"

[Anonymous No.15233833]

>>15231768

*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.15234264]

>>15226705
The movie was a parody.
Neither are facsist anyway, the government is styled after Roman Military Democracy