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Has he ever been refuted?

>> No.15218636

Marx and Hoppe have more in common than either of the two have with mainstream economics.

>> No.15219251

>>15218623
Argumentation ethics is incoherent

>> No.15219575

Im reading his works right now. He must be one of the only living genuine intellectuals.

>> No.15219623
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15219623

>tfw reluctant ancap
You either die a hero or live long enough to be the bad guy. I'm one of the biggest corporate shills around now.

>> No.15219666

>>15218623
None needed. His work presents a reductio-ad-absurdism of his own brand of 'libertarianism'.

>> No.15219789

Not possible. He's correct.

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This kills the ancap.

How will Hoppe ever recover?

>> No.15220072

>>15219623
Ancap is just more liberal capitalism.

>>15219789
About what?

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>>15218623

>> No.15220181

>>15220072
>Ancap is just more liberal capitalism.
False. That's state capitalism.

>> No.15220205

>>15220181
Ayn-cap is also statism, but it falls into the hands of corporatists, autocratically.

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>>15218623
Yes.

http://critiques.us/index.php?title=Hans-Hermann_Hoppe

>> No.15220415

>>15220324
This image was created by a retard. It assumes an idealic reason for implementing Marxism whenever the fundamental argument of Marx Engels and Lenin was that seizing the means of production was in the workers self interest.

>> No.15220454

>>15220324
What if I unironicallybelieve in that? There is one single implicit law based on the most basic of the social contract that is enforceable by convienience and circumstance rather than by the explicit. The problem I have with communism is that it cannot exist within the liberal paradigm (I’m not ancap, kinda middle of the road Hegelian that thinks collectivism needs to be balanced with individualism).

And I don’t think collectivism is wrong, but it doesn’t sit with the current general paradigm. If we had a mindset light the pre-Plato Greeks, sure.

I think this is partially aperent In the media we watch. Most universes have the perspective from a practically “ancap” scenario. Wether it be Star Wars and smuglers living in a mostly lawless atmosphere enacting their will, or superhero’s doing the same. Heck, even startrek, the place of a future communist paradise basically follows space cowboys outside of that society enacting their will.

>> No.15220456

>>15218623
>denouncing the self-ownership axiom is a performative contradiction because you need to claim ownership over your body before you argue against the axiom
literally why? why can't I just assume ownership of my body whenever I argue against it and be a complete slave in other instances? or better yet, why not claim ownership only of your mind and vocal cords so you can properly argue against it?

>> No.15220551

>>15220456
A response to one of his critics basically admitted this interpretation.

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>>15218623
Ipso facto, an atheist is refuted by the mere fact of being cringe.