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1984 has become a meme at this point, thoughts?

>> No.15212993

You must be 18 years or older to post here

>> No.15212997

Remember when he said he wanted to fuck Burmese bussy?

>> No.15213000

If you can't separate an author's work from misguided reaction to it that's your problem not his.

>> No.15213021

>>15213000
An author can only be as good as his effect on the world

>> No.15213042

>>15213021
An author can only be as good as his effect on me. Read Orwell’s other books btw.

>> No.15213063

>>15213042
Homage to Catalonia and Shooting an Elephant are dogshit though

>> No.15213066

>>15213021
how about i fuck u in the ass no lube fag would that have an effect on you

>> No.15213074

>>15213000
Nice get
>>15213021
Imagine being this retarded

>> No.15213087

>>15213074
If an author has an insufferable fanbase that reflects directly on their writing, you think you can separate these things but you can't, they're intertwined

>> No.15213124

>>15213087
ngmi

>> No.15213179

>>15212979
He's the only socialist I unironically admire:
Willingness to call out anti-colonial movements for their anti-freedom and anti-progress nonsense
Never wavered in his opposition to totalitarianism of any kind
Recognized that unclear writing causes unclear thinking
Politics and the English language has a lot of bad nonsensical advice, but it's overall pretty valuable

>> No.15213190

>>15213087
every author has an insufferable fanbase.

>> No.15213205

>>15212979
If I could do anything, I'd go back in time and kill him.

>> No.15213236

>>15213179
>Never wavered in his opposition to totalitarianism of any kind
Except British capitalist totalitarianism of course. That was more palatable to his because he was a rich fucking colony kid. He even fucking had the audacity to claim the rich media and political class like him (who fucking squealed and grassed on everyone at the first sight of the government) were the true revolutionaries andthat the British working class are all dumb pigs that actually have it better than poor upper-middle class people and the upper-middle class are the true revolutionaries. Fuck him lad, its just a shame Stalin never managed to stick a fucking axe through as well.

>> No.15213246

>>15213236
lol

>> No.15213266

>>15213190
And that's why no one is worth reading

>> No.15213283
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15213283

Maybe I should re-read it and then think about this, it's been a while

>> No.15213356

>>15213205
every man his power fantasy

>> No.15213399

>>15213087
In that case poor DFW

>> No.15213426

>>15213399
he gets what he deserves honestly

>> No.15213441

He wrote little more than kitschy entertainment, but it it very entertaining.

>> No.15213547

1984 is an absolute masterpiece, beyond all the hype. His writings on the Spanish Civil War are quite inaccurate, though

>> No.15213834

>>15212979
Asimov was right about him

>> No.15213938

>>15213547
Read more

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15213946

>is this author overrated
Who the fuck cares.

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>>15212979
It is a good book, memed because it is accessible and a well made archetype. Mediocre plebs overuse it as an analogy.

>> No.15214020

>>15213000
>misguided reaction
honestly 1984 isn't fear mongered enough. We need another Red Scare

>> No.15214032

>>15213021
Gay and retarded

>> No.15215114

yeah but his analysis of language and the concept of doublespeak is dead on accurate

>> No.15215148

>>15212979
>>15212993
>>15212997
>>15213066
>>15213087
>>15213190
>>15213205
>>15213266
Why is /lit/ so full of shills all of a sudden?

>> No.15215189

It's literally Harry Potter before Harry Potter in terms of its effects on society. Dystopias are ultimately a genre for brainlets who think that they 'understand something about the world' and 'oppose totalitarianism' and then proceed to perpetuate corporate hell society and vote for Biden.

>> No.15215647

>>15213063
Homage to Catalonia was brutally honest and I loved that

>> No.15215729

I don't understand how he would be overrated. He has probably the best "basic" writing style I have ever seen. He writes so solidly and clearly and really makes you picture what is happening. He describes basically anything he sees (and his characters) like they're just normal people so he really makes you empathize with it.

What I find he is really good at, is describing inner monologue. Often throughout 1984, when we see how Winston is feeling, these are the most powerful parts of the book. And it's why 1984 is way more readable than Brave New World, even if the ideas are perhaps less advanced.