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[Anonymous No.15208691]

How can anyone be taken seriously as a philosopher if they haven't read, assimilated and learned from Guénon's (pbuh) critique of modern philosophy?

serious question

[Anonymous No.15208712]

serious question

What is Guenon's critique on modern philosophy?

[Anonymous No.15208721]

>>15208691
guenon wasnt the only critic of modernity. in my modern world crisis folder i have around 60 books by different authors that criticize modernity

[Anonymous No.15208756]

>>15208721
oh yeah?
list every criticism of modernity

[Anonymous No.15208759]

>>15208712
womeh choose who they had sex whit

[Anonymous No.15208816]

>>15208756
Paul Bureau - La Crise Morale des Temps Nouveaux
Jacques Maritain - Antimoderne
Nikolai Berdiaev - The Fate of Man in the Modern World
Nikolai Bediaev - The Spiritual Crisis of the Intelligentsia
Peter Wust - Crisis in the West
Henri Daniel-Rops - Le Monde Sans Âme
Gonzague de Reynold - L'Europe Tragique
Louis Dimier - Histoire et Causes de Notre Décadence
Johan Huizinga - In The Shadow of Tomorrow
Hillaire Belloc - The Crisis of Our Civilization
Pitirim Sorokin - The Crisis of Our Age
Mark Hewitson - Europe in Crisis
Hans Jonas - The Abyss of the Will
Exorcising Philosophical Modernity: Cyril O'Regan and Christian Discourse after Modernity
Erich Fromm - Sane Society
Marcel De Corte - Essai sur la fin d'une Civilisation
Julien Benda - La Crise Du Rationalisme
Max Horkheimer - Eclipse of Reason
Albert Demangeon - Le déclin de l'Europe
Paul Valéry - The Crisis of the Mind
Rudolf Pannwitz - Die Krisis der europaischen Kultur

typed these from the folder. do you want more?

[Anonymous No.15208888]

Cristopher Dawson - Progress and Religion
Pavel Florensky - At the Crossroads of Science & Mysticism
Henri Daniel-Rops - Élements de Notre Destin
Étienne Gilson - Pour un Ordre Catholique
Theodor Lessin - Die verfluchte Kultur
Albert Schweitzer - The Decay and the Restoration of Civilization
C. S. Lewis - The Abolition of Man
Victor Gollancs - Our Threatened Values
Romano Guardini - The End of the Modern World

read Sorokin

[Anonymous No.15208903]

>>15208816
>>15208888
Those aren't criticisms of modernity, those are book titles.

[Anonymous No.15208908]

>>15208712
FFS don't encourage this faggot.
Sage goes in all fields.

[Anonymous No.15208949]

>>15208903
>those are book titles.
about criticisms of modernity

>guenonian IQ and self conceit

[Anonymous No.15208951]

>>15208691
Don't call yourself a philosopher. I have met many students of philsophy, and some professors of philosophy, but never a philosopher.

[Anonymous No.15208952]

>>15208691
Non-entity

[Anonymous No.15208971]

>>15208903
shut up.

look, guenon is a good critic, my point is that he is not the only one. his criticism isn't original, your original post is flawed.

[Anonymous No.15209068]

>>15208971
>his criticism isn't original
This

Much of the things he did was done by the Theosophical society and early romanticists.

>the root ontology of Traditionalism is a hodgepodge of late 19th century esotericism and hermetic syncretism, post-Kantian Religionswissenschaft and Protestant theology, the Religionsgeschichtliche Schule and its early 20th century offshoots, which also had a post-Kantian epistemology, and a healthy dose of Romantic theory on religion and myth, which has been described by Beiser and other scholars as "neo-Platonist," or as the "archetypal" strand of Kant interpretation. Read any myth-related text of Schelling and you will see Traditionalism. Actually, read Paul Bishop's book _The Archaic_ for a decent discussion of the core concept(s) from which Traditionalism sprang. Its ontology is part of a general response to Kantian rationalism that involved a re-introduction of archetypal (i.e., Platonic) metaphysics with a vaguely emanationist structure -- that is, bootleg neo-Platonism.
>This movement was (and remains) deliberately syncretic because when you identify the primary forms or archetypes with a symbolic and mythic structure (as ALL of the traditions I just outlined did), you get a philosophy and history of religion that makes all traditions into particular instantiations of underlying immutable principles (as all of the traditions I just outlined concluded). Just read _The Oriental Renaissance_ by Schwab, which was praised highly by Mircea Eliade, about whom both Guenon and Evola complained in correspondence that he was a Guenonian Traditionalist who wouldn't cop to the fact and that he was getting credit for Guenon's ideas especially. Eliade agreed; so Guenon, Evola, and Eliade agree that Eliade is a reasonably faithful transposition of Guenonian philosophy, and Eliade embraces Schwab's diagnosis of syncretic, Fruhromantik neo-Platonism as the basis of the Traditionalist worldview, e.g., as its syncretic neo-Platonist framework effortlessly reduces and re-appropriates Hinduism, Islam, Platonism, and everything else to be simply an emanation of its own "central, really real" myths and archetypes. That is why "Hinduism looks like neo-Platonism," a favourite line of Traditionalists -- real similarities between the two systems, perhaps owing to some real underlying Indo-European metaphysics, are in fact bowled over and destroyed by Traditionalism's extremely lazy neo-Platonist framework, which has been called "all-reducing." Traditionalists did not save or invent the method of comparative religions -- they killed it, and laminated its corpse.
>tldr: Traditionalism is an esoterically-oriented synthesis of scholarly paradigms that go back to Kant, under which paradigms traditional neo-Platonism, and Christian and especially German mysticism were reinterpreted by the early Romantics. And it's a late-comer to the game at that.

>guenon is a good critic
clearly he wasn't if he just parroted someone else