Why are Buddhists generally more well read than Hindus?

[Anonymous No.15182075]

just something I've noticed

[Anonymous No.15182088]

Is this a fact or an assumption?

[Anonymous No.15182102]

Buddhists are sneaky and clever, they run the courts and live in fancy monasteries
real Hindu man lives on the street and embraces the world, Buddhists close off from the world save for relying on lay people to give them everything they need

[Anonymous No.15182134]

>>15182075
Post hot monks

[Anonymous No.15182137]

>>15182075
>Lord Budda
Christcucks can't

[Anonymous No.15182195]

>>15182137
?

[Anonymous No.15182214]

>>15182075
guenonspammer's meme words on the left

[Anonymous No.15182222]

>>15182075
>>15182134
How were they able to achieve such GAINS on a vegetarian diet? I smell bs

[Anonymous No.15182354]

>paranibbana

[Anonymous No.15182385]

>>15182075
Isn't the act of reading and book knowledge just another malignant tether to prevent a buddhist from ceasing to exist?

[Anonymous No.15182413]

>>15182075
read MahaPrajnaParamita-Sastra by Nagarjuna

[Anonymous No.15182439]

>>15182413
what the fuck is up with street shitters and the letter A

[Anonymous No.15182451]

>>15182075
It can be explained easily, India has 313 million of illiterate people: the literacy rate is estimated at 73%. Many buddhist countries have a rate at 90% of higher. So basically, they are more well read because they can read.

[Anonymous No.15182489]

Left pick does not depict any legit hindu, the so called “guenonfag” spammers try to meme guenon in order to delegitimize his books and any serious discussion regarding them. And funnily enough, the pioneer was a buddhist who got absolutely assblasted in many threads about advaita vedanta and buddhism .

[Anonymous No.15182493]

>>15182222
You fell for meat industry lies, it seems. Sad

[Anonymous No.15182513]

>>15182493
>meat industry
The Western Buddhist™ is also an activist. Who saw that coming?

[Anonymous No.15182549]

>>15182513
>NOOOO YOU CAN’T CRITICIZE THE MEAT INDUSTRY YOU FUCKING SHITLIB

[Anonymous No.15182615]

There are stupid village Buddhists, and then there are Buddhists who are philosophers, neurologists, etc.

There are stupid village Hindus, and then there are great Hindu philosophers.

What branches of Buddhism brought Buddhism to the west? Zen (via people like Shunryu Suzuki and Thich Nhat Hanh) and Tibetan Vajrayana (via the Shambhala organization). Zen is one of the most intellectually rigorous forms of Buddhism that exists. Vajrayana isn't, but the heads of the organization were literal historians, archivists, etc.

Who brought Hinduism to the west? The Hare Krishnas (a dumb cult of white kids with dreads) and The Beatles.

I think that's why we view them the way we do.

[Anonymous No.15183260]

>>15182615
is Vajrayana more direct than Zen?

[Anonymous No.15183329]

>>15182222 (checked)
He is a Muay Thai champion serving as a monk. It's like a spiritual retreat, but much longer (over an year), and they actually work as monks.

[Anonymous No.15183351]

>>15183260
no

[Anonymous No.15183403]

>>15182222
Vegetarian diets are easy to build with even without any supplements since they still have eggs.

[Anonymous No.15183434]

>>15182615
The Ramakrishna Order was also a strong influence on Hinduism coming to the west. They tend to be pretty philosophical, mostly following Shankara.

[Anonymous No.15183455]

>>15182222
Theravada Buddhists (i.e., ACTUAL Buddhists) are not vegetarian.

[Anonymous No.15183476]

[Anonymous No.15183487]

>>15182222
What does Buddhism have to do with being a vegetarian?

[Anonymous No.15183493]

Are Buddhists allowed to eat meat if it is given to them via alms?

[Anonymous No.15183534]

>>15183493
In Burma and most Theravada countries, yes, although some meat, like cat, it is forbidden to give to them. The whole vege thing was a late development in Mahayana, due to monks in China needing to grow their own food. Theravada monks are strictly forbidden to be agriculturists.

[Anonymous No.15183941]

>>15183534
>like cat

[Anonymous No.15184196]

>>15183260
Possibly, but you have to get into a direct relationship with a real Vajrayana master, it’s unlikely you can make up the situation yourself. What Vajrayana/tantric traditions do is basically mindfuck the disciples superhard to accelerate their getting rid of their bad karma and reaching enlightenment, although this has sometimes also happened in the annals of Zen. At their core, Zen and Vajrayana are about developing the same or similar experiences. The outer traditions and rituals are different, though.

[Anonymous No.15184236]

[Anonymous No.15184254]

>>15182088
Based on what the OP said, I think it's an observation you absolute dharma vipanyasa cumlord

[Anonymous No.15184299]

>>15182413
Where do I find it?

[Anonymous No.15184329]

>>15183455
>tHeraVaDa iS orIgiNAl aNd rEaL BuDdHisM

[Anonymous No.15184335]

>>15183455
Based

[Anonymous No.15184342]

can buddhist monks go on gear if it helps them achieve heavenly gains?

[Anonymous No.15184343]

>>15184329
redpill me on the prayer wheel

[Anonymous No.15184345]

>>15184329
More like you can't drink the semen of your own guru to achieve enlightenment. Yes they do that.

[Anonymous No.15184375]

>>15182439
wonder why is that the first sound in literally every language

[Anonymous No.15184662]

>>15184345
I have participated in 4 gay orgies and have been enlightened as many times. Hardly a coincidence.

[Anonymous No.15184664]

>>15184345
Semen is a magical fluid. Don’t rag on sex magic, pleb.

[Anonymous No.15184783]

>>15184345
aka guenon's 'amrita'
he said the black man's was most potent

[Anonymous No.15184801]

>>15184343
You shove prayers in it and spin and meditate on it. They use super-thin paper with matras on it to maximize prayers inside of it.

>>15183487
Killing = bad, ergo a monk, who is trying to escape samsara, should refrain from killing things.

[Anonymous No.15184816]

>>15184329
it literally is, Mahayana cults are the Buddhist equivalent of Mormons

[Anonymous No.15184828]

>>15184783
Except he didn't and that is made up and you know it.

[Anonymous No.15184853]

>>15184801
so instead of meditating for hours like some nerd I will just spin my prayer wheel really fast for like a minute every day
got it thanks, nibbana is as good as mine

[Anonymous No.15184864]

>>15184801
are they like trad fidget spinners

[Anonymous No.15184873]

>>15184801
Monks do not grow or cook their own food. So killing is out of the question for monks whether they're vegetarians or not.

Monks are rarely vegetarians, especially Theravadin monks. They're perfectly willing that the laypeople absolutely destroy themselves spiritually for eons to come so they can eat a nice brisket :D:D:D::D

[Anonymous No.15184898]

>>15184853
That's the trick, you gotta spin it fast enough that it actually blows the samsara away. This is how Vajrayana masters trained in the secret arts of the diamond child levitat;, it works on the same principle as the similar (but unrelated) spiritual helicopter.

>>15184864
Yes, but it's filled with prayers. I suppose you could cover a regular fidget spinner in prayers and it would work on the same principle, but again they fucking PACK those things with prayers. Maybe you could use a laser to micro-etch them on.

[Anonymous No.15184978]

>>15182222
Rules are meant to be broken

[Anonymous No.15185020]

>>15184978
based spook-obliterating egoist anarchist

[Anonymous No.15185025]

>>15183455
The failed sexpat

[Anonymous No.15185033]

>>15184978
If you meet the Buddha on the road kill him and eat his flesh

[Anonymous No.15185077]

>>15184662
You have not achieved enlightenment until you have have participated in a drug fueled gay orgy that was taped and uploaded to pornhub.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6418287/Leaked-sex-tape-shows-Taiwanese-Buddhist-master-having-drug-fuelled-gay-orgy.html

[Anonymous No.15185147]

>>15185077
What is systematic in Christianity is one of these things that happened this one time in this one place in Buddhism.

[Anonymous No.15185157]

>>15182075
discord . gg/d9mTzQY

[Anonymous No.15185209]

>>15185147
>systematic in Christianity
I think you mean in any power hierarchy, or were all those politicians flying to (((Epstein)))'s island really high-ranking members of a Christian church?

[Anonymous No.15185268]

>>15182075
>lord Buddha
A Buddha is it a title of someone which has reached enlightenment (means "one who has awakened" to reality) and usually when Buddhists speak of Buddha they usually mean Siddhartha Gautama, but can also be used informally as a suffix of someone enlightened (Buddhahood is used formally) . Also even though the monks have a semi hierarchical society the have no "lord" / call someone a lord (at least in Theravada Buddhism), Siddhartha is viewed upon as the example of how to live, or as the main philosopher in Buddhism.
As in why they are more well read i cannot answer because i have only talked to around three Hindus. But many in my book club are studying and hence reading a lot of theory, however in general we are a very diverse group in terms of theoretical knowledge.
In my opinion gods serve more of a symbolic purpose in opposition to Hinduism. For example in the Tibetan book of the dead, my understanding was that each god served as a symbol to recognize what to do in Bardo (when dying / after life, before being reborn). In my opinion meditating on "gods" and memorizing how they look and are associated with, trains your brain to easier visualize state of minds and thus "control" it better. A christian would maybe see christian symbols in the Bardo.

I am member in a local Theravada Buddhist book club, and member in my country's Buddhist membership, however i am still learning and not currently reading theory, also i do not strictly follow the philosophy at the moment so please correct me if i am wrong. If you are interested in Buddhism i really recommend "the Tibetan book of the dead" both the narrated version and the direct translation, pretty comfy.

[Anonymous No.15185373]

Got my dad to start reading Simulacra and Simulation, however he is having a hard time understanding the language and theory. For me it was pretty easy since i had already knew some theory from the book. So i really want to my dad to start reading and understanding what it is about since he loves symbolism (has probably more than ten books on the subject), now however he is pretty old and forgetful. What prerequisites should i focus on explaining to him (other than Simulation, Simulacrum and Hypereality) and what would be the best resource for someone older?

[Anonymous No.15185402]

>>15185373
fuck meant to create a thread.
too much adderall.

[Anonymous No.15185484]

>>15185402
simulacrum from pkd?

[Anonymous No.15185538]

>>15185268
I don't understand where the idea that in buddhism gods, heavens and hells are just symbols comes from. In buddhism you already subscribe to idea that you are under an illusion or dream, so on what basis they say that gods and demons aren't real, or they are more of a illusion than one you are under.

[Anonymous No.15185575]

>>15185373
go to libgen and get the baudrillard dictionary, then look up the terms in there, have him read them, then go back to S&S. Imo that's the worst book to intro someone to baudrillard. Should've gone for impossible exchange.

t. baudrillard got me my phd

[Anonymous No.15185922]

>>15185538
>In buddhism you already subscribe to idea that you are under an illusion or dream
My understanding is more than anything i know about reality is a interpretation of it, and hence not the essence of it. The idea that life is an illusion is more about that the self, and material world isn't the essence of reality. Just our experience. Illusion does not mean that something is not real, just misinterpreted or distorted interpretation. Like the illusion in the image, the square isn't fake or "not real". Our minds interpret it the same as a normal square. However drawn it does not equal a square. The sense of something being a square is a human created concept and stems from humans naming patterns and recognizing them. "Gods" are experienced in Bardo as real to the person undergoing it, but not a absolute truth thus an illusion. But the experience of how they look like, what they are attributed to, what they do etc, is something you learn. The use of "Gods" is an abstraction of which makes navigation in Bardo easier.

[Anonymous No.15185934]

>>15185484
the Simulaca you mean?
Could very well be a good start, i know that my dad has read a lot of pkd when he was younger.

[Anonymous No.15185975]

>>15185538
Don't know who told you that Buddhism rejects gods and demons because it does not. They both exist and are part of samsara. Buddhism is atheistic in the sense that they have no ultimate existence and cannot liberate you from samsara.

[Anonymous No.15185981]

>>15185575
Did not know the dictionary book existed, thank you very much, will be using it myself as well, will be great. I got the book for Christmas when I was like 15 (now 21), in my edgy philosophy phase. I was planning on writing a short description of the main terms with lots of real world examples.

[Anonymous No.15186045]

>>15185268
You have have a few things mixed up here. The Tibetan Book of the Dead is a Vajrayana text, and is only useful if you want to know more about that school. Even then, it's more of a funerary text and isn't that useful in learning the beliefs and practices of Vajrayana at large.

[Anonymous No.15186067]

>>15182222
Option 1: eggs, beans, maybe fish
Option 2: not vegetarian

[Anonymous No.15186114]

>>15185268
From my understanding in Theravada we just don't enter Nirvana so we can help all conscious beings get enlightened/lessen their suffering? The validity of the content of the book does not change.

[Anonymous No.15186219]

Jains saw coronavirus coming millions of years ago.

jains > *

[Anonymous No.15186244]

>>15182075
You probably live in a Western country. Most Western Hindus or Hindu-influenced individuals, outside of the Indian migrant community, are hippies who just want something that involves "Namaste" and being nice to animals.

[Anonymous No.15186254]

>>15186114
Theravada Chads are egoists, they only seek to get their (non-)selves out of Samsara. Only Mahayana virgins want to get everyone out like utopian activists.

[Anonymous No.15187016]

>>15184299
just google it

[Anonymous No.15187214]

>>15186254
>Theravada Chads
Jungle Asians with no formal education, who don't meditate, make money from donations and scamming tourists, and lead violent mobs against Muslim villages

>Mahayana virgins
Highly educated philosophers who master meditation and oppose tyranny

not even exaggerating

[Anonymous No.15187648]

>>15187214
Gonna need some sources. China and Japan are major players in wars vs Burma Bush Brigade

[Anonymous No.15187657]

>>15182075
buddhism is 15th century invented, fag religion. Buddha was a Hindu.

[Anonymous No.15187709]

>>15182102
People on India poo in the streets tho. I would go full hermit too if I was there.

[Anonymous No.15187783]

>>15187214
>Theravada
>Don't meditate
patently wrong, and everything else you mention is based.

[Anonymous No.15187871]

>>15184345
Bindu right?

Is it really gay if you’re swallowing a rinpoche’s semen unaroused and in the context of magic and not because you’re a degenerate gay man?

[Anonymous No.15188141]

>>15185268
>>15186114

Correction i meant Mahayana, pretty tired.

[Anonymous No.15188192]

>>15183403
>eggs
>vegetarian

[Anonymous No.15189544]

>>15188192
Vegetarian and vegan are two different things

[cunt !OvNqHWMOSk No.15189581]

>>15184816
Mahayana is based and pea brains like you cant handle it

[Anonymous No.15189936]

>>15187214
>lead violent mobs against Muslim villages
But that is based. Were you trying to promote Theravada even more?

[Anonymous No.15191166]

>>15187648
didn't expect to see zelina in /lit/

[Anonymous No.15191222]

>>15182075
You know, I think its cute how a bunch of anons get together on a board for literature too discuss two medieval jungle religion that almost nobody follows and nobody cares about.

Just two completely irrelevant religions, that belong to the past.

Soon we will be a having a Gnostics vs. Hermetics, or a Zorastrians vs. Vedics or how about a Catholics vs. Lutherans?

[Anonymous No.15191327]

>>15186219
KeK
Not the Digambaras, though.

[Anonymous No.15191363]

[Anonymous No.15191398]

>>15182222
>buddhist
>vegetarian diet
/lit/ being unread retards. nothing new to see here.

[Anonymous No.15191401]

>>15189544
>Vegetarian
>vegan
retards vs super retards

[Anonymous No.15191694]

>>15191222
literally billions of people follow them
not medieval
both primarily urban

otherwise, great take

[Anonymous No.15191771]

>>15191222
The onions in this post gave me mantities

[Anonymous No.15192164]

>>15191327
if they aren't covering their mouths to prevent insects and microbes from getting in there (and being inadvertantly eaten), then they aren't true Jains

[Anonymous No.15192334]

>>15189544
Vegetarians are named after eating vegetables, right? Eggs and fish aren't vegetables.

[Anonymous No.15192798]

>>15191222
Reddit newfag

[Anonymous No.15192834]

>>15191222
Newfag allert

[Anonymous No.15192859]

>>15192164
>Unaware of the difference, and even the existence, of two sects in jainism: Digambaras and Śvētāmbaras.

[Anonymous No.15192946]

>>15191222
The absolute state of newfaggotry.

[Anonymous No.15192982]

You can find a lot of dimwitted white converts to Buddhism too. It's more that in the absence of an indigenous and sincere faith based tradition yo have a lot of retards who try and latch onto a LARP of some foreign faith because it's exotic and exciting. The same thing happened in the late 19th early 20th century with the decline of Christianity at the time and popularity of Theosophy, the rise of the occult and first Western experiences of translated Hindu and Buddhist texts.

That said from what I've seen of Buddhism it seems pretty solid. I'm just too worldly to really be able to actually adhere to it.

[Anonymous No.15194109]

>>15182075
This type of retarded images is why I hate internet discourse. It's all memes and propaganda. You just put two cherry picked pictures of opposing sides and write some stupid things to supposedly prove your baseless claim. And while it's so blatantly false and misleading it will still stick to people's heads.

[Anonymous No.15194125]

>>15183455
I spent a week at a theravada forest tradition monastery and they said that monks can't refuse charity, so if they're given meat they will eat it.

[Anonymous No.15194195]

>>15192334
Vegetarians don't eat meat, but eat eggs and drink milk. While vegans don't eat any animal products. I don't know why they name themselves like that.

[Anonymous No.15194242]

>>15182075
/mVNUytg

[Anonymous No.15194949]

>>15182088
This is the internet. What do you think?

[Anonymous No.15195892]

>>15194242
I recognized this as part of a URL but can't figure out what to match it with

[Anonymous No.15196334]

>>15194109
ok pajeet