/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15175088]

When does this pick up? I'm 150 pages in and so far it's just disconnected ramblings. I'm enjoying it, it's entertaining but plot wise there's absolutely nothing happening.

[Anonymous No.15175119]

>>15175088
DFW said the plot is implied, meant to be put together as an exercise for the reader. Also by about page 200 enough of them are connected to the point where you're following a clear narrative

[Anonymous No.15175152]

>>15175088
It takes a while, but it starts to come together around the halfway house when Don gets a job as an attendant.

[Anonymous No.15175225]

No matter how much effort I make toI have never been able to get more than 50 pages into "Infinite Jest." He was a much better short story writer than a novelist. The title story in the collection "A Supposedly Fun Thing....." is genuinely good.
Usually when people talk to me aboout this book in particular and then you try asking them about.....Tolstoy or Dostoevsky or even.....Flaubert or Melville, almost without exception they haven't read any of the above.
Wallace was a very good short story writer. His novels are....competent. And yes, he lived a tragic life and his suicide was very sad.
Now having said that, before you spend time plowing throw a mediocre novel that no one will remember in 50 years, you're time would be much better spent reading "the classics" rather than wasting your time and energy on such a book.
Until you have read..... "War and Peace," put
"Infinite Jest" to the back of your bookshelf.

[Anonymous No.15175233]

>>15175225
>you're ti
*your

[Anonymous No.15175264]

>>15175225
>story in the collection "A Supposedly Fun Thing"
I thought that was an essay collection. I haven't read it though

[Anonymous No.15175358]

>>15175088
It comes together but the resolution happens "off-screen", between the end of the book and the very first chapter, its left to the reader to determine how Hal gets from A to B. The parts about Randy Lenz are the best parts of the book.

[Anonymous No.15175383]

>>15175264
>I thought that was an essay collection.
It is an essay collection, though the first story was titled "A supposedly fun thing..." and was serialized in...Harper's I think. the one from Harper's was about his time on a cruise ship. The book has more incidents of that type like....his visit to a county fair with a childhood female friend.
Had he not killed himself, I doubt he'd still be getting contracts as supposedly some girl took out a restraining order against him for following her/contacting her too much.

[Anonymous No.15175426]

>>15175225
What’s up with the ellipses

[Anonymous No.15175576]

>>15175426
>What’s up with the ellipses
For me, it's a sign that I'm thinking and giving examples rather than stating concrete, definite facts. Or maybe it has to do with my job being a screenwriter (yes, I have written films you and and everyone else reading this has seen; no I can't say what they are, even though I know people will assume I'm full of shit).
I've already had two projects postponed and possibly going straight to the new Apple Streaming Service rather than to theaters, and I'm trapped in my apartment in NYC but too shell-shocked to write. As of now, so I'm just seeking out random people to bullshit with anonymously.

[Anonymous No.15175589]

>>15175576
Nice LARP

[Anonymous No.15175591]

>>15175576
this explains why movies are so shit lately

[Anonymous No.15175673]

>>15175576
If I get dubs you have to adapt IJ

[Anonymous No.15175725]

>>15175576
You’re either trolling of completely truthful because you write like a disconnected journalist who sniffs his own farts. If you are telling the truth you should put an Easter egg into your next script, maybe have an actor call something based

[Anonymous No.15175762]

>>15175589
>Nice LARP
lmao, indeed. I've actually tried to communicate with the idiots on /tv/ and posted screeners, even a pic of my Oscar, and that was "fake and gay." Which I actually don't mind since no matter what you do, even if 95% of people loved your film, people here are:
A." your film sucked! Why didn't you put in x, y, z!" B. "You're a LARP!" So you can't really win.
Which is actually OK. Especially now, given that the world is ending. BUT, I must say, this "lockdown" business has been fucking amazing for my royalties on my two most recent films so it has worked out pretty well for me.

[Anonymous No.15175800]

>>15175725
>you should put an Easter egg into your next script,
I could try, but I didn't say I direct (I don't) so that's very rarely my call, even though I'm on set for most of my films.
I do get a good laugh at some of the people who think Hollywood is somehow directly in league with the CIA, which I've even heard Alex Jones claim when I have time to listen to him.
Having said that, you can suggest an Easter Egg and I'll do my best. I also have a lot of great stories about Harvey Weinstein I could tell, though it all seems a moot point now. He was never an EP on one of my films, but after he and his brother sold Miramax and became Weinstein Co. , he came close to distributing one.

[Anonymous No.15175822]

>>15175800
Wanna how I know you're full of shit? Writers have no say in production. My friend's a keygrip and has had me on sets before. Writers have absolutely nothing to do with distribution or production. You have absolutely no say, you're not involved with the process at all. Stop larping for yous. I know you're bored at home during quarantine but please read a book or something productive.

[Anonymous No.15175908]

>>15175673
>If I get dubs you have to adapt IJ
If only the process where that easy. Let me give you an example-- a friend and I wrote a screenplay about the life of Oriana Fallaci (look her up if you don't know her), one of the very, very VERY few examples of a "brave" female journalist to the point where she took 3 AK-47 bullets in Mexico.
She was not only "brave" in the sense that she would go anywhere and interview anyone even after getting shot, but she was not afraid to speak her mind, whatever the price. And,, while she was alive, she had very strong opinions about the presence of muslims in Europe. Let's just leave it at that.
So we have this great script (execs at 3 different studios like it) even have a A-list actress lined up who would do it, and guess what? NO ONE wants to take the risk with the financing. Beyond the financing, what if, in the course of the movie, her criticism of muslims caused one of the little fuckers to act out? So, no one wants to touch it.
That's just one example of my personal favorite script I've written, but even with my supposed success and how much my films have earned for studios, you always end up starting with zero again and "how much can this earn for us, will it cause too much controversy?

[Anonymous No.15175935]

>>15175576
>too shell-shocked to write
We have a genuine screenwriter on our hands boys

[Anonymous No.15175941]

>>15175822
>Writers have no say in production. My friend's a keygrip and has had me on sets before
lmao, what a fucking asshole. "my friend's cousin a keygrip..." Is this the point where I'm meant to get very angry and then post pictures of sets? Or my video from my phone of john williams scoring something I wrote while in post?
You're right, it's all a big, giant LARP. Maybe if I work REALLY hard, someday I can be a grip like your friend's father's cousin. Dare to dream, maybe one day....

[Anonymous No.15175959]

>>15175908
Post a page long excerpt or i’ll still think you’re bullshitting

[Anonymous No.15175966]

>>15175941
sad. go read a book.

[Anonymous No.15176332]

>>15175959
>Post a page long excerpt
You can think anything you want friend. since I wrote it with someone else and since it is technically "in development, can't a part of the script. I have pictures from my sets, but then that's too obvious. If I post screeners, then it's "oh, you could have gotten that anywhere."
Let me see if II have a pass from something I didn't actually work on....

[Anonymous No.15176555]

>>15175966
>sad. go read a book.
why i care what people like you think, I don't know. And not that it matters, as you'll say "oh, you just found that pic" or "everyone with a card gets those."

[Anonymous No.15176836]

>>15176555
Ok, i guess i believe you more now. but why are you pretending to not care what people think? No offence, but you’re clearly bragging

[Anonymous No.15176918]

>>15176836
>, but you’re clearly bragging
Friend, if I were bragging, I would not be be doing it anonymously here, I could go to one of those shit sites and use my actual name "Ask Me Anything! :O] "
I prefer this site since I've been frequenting it for ~13 years and I imagine somewhere out there is someone like me and that it's good for him to know that if you work hard enough at the craft, you don't need connections, money, or anything else save the ability to write a good script. If I were "bragging," I'd try to call my publicist and see if I could get my picture on TMZ "delivering masks" in NYC to health works.
People may think I'm a piece of shit for a variety og reasons, but never been called a "braggart" before. Simply going stir crazy, finished watching both seasons of "my brilliant friend" on HBO, for some reason I can't get my x-box to work so I can play "Witcher 3" or "skyrim" again, and thus here I am.
My....f--king computer isn't working and since I haven't used my Steam account in over a year, I'm terrified when I manage to get it up, it's not going to work.....

[Anonymous No.15176925]

Narrative becomes clear very soon anon.

[Anonymous No.15176934]

>>15176555
do you know how easy advance screeners are to get? anyone who works in the industry can get them.

[Anonymous No.15176941]

>>15176555
You seem pretty obsessed with having anonymous posters believe you. Why do you care so much? Go do something productive man. True or not.

[Anonymous No.15176975]

>>15176918
Out of curiosity, why can’t you name yourself

[Anonymous No.15176978]

>>15176975
because he's a larper.

[Anonymous No.15176984]

>>15176941
I believe him because he is so clearly not from here, and acts exactly like the type of faggot he claims to be

[Anonymous No.15176986]

>>15176975
I reckon he’s got a jew name and doesn’t people to find out

[Anonymous No.15176987]

>>15176934
>do you know how easy advance screeners are to get?
Annnnd they arrive right on time as expected. I give up.

[Anonymous No.15177059]

>>15176987
dude lol come on. im not even in the industry.

[Anonymous No.15177066]

>>15176941
>Why do you care so much?
why do I care? interesting question, bc I should not. I've been working so hard and consistently for about a decade now, have never had time to catch my breath. And then I woke up to both x-box and the computer I have "Steam" on not working, neither of which I've used in years.
The idea was to show people that you can be a catholic from nowhere with no "connections" and start out with no money and, if your writing is good enough, you can indeed "make it."
In any event, I'm now forced to concuur with others-- it WAS a stupid fucking idea, and going to get back to trying to fix my xbox so I can play COD:MW for the first time in....about a decade, and play disaster of screen rather than allowing it to give me heart palpations.
If nothing else, everyone at home watching movies is good for my royalties. So, you're right, off to try to fix my "Steam" and see what's wrong with my xbox....

[Anonymous No.15177093]

>>15177059
Is the endgame cover ironic or do they actually take themselves that seriously

[Anonymous No.15177096]

>>15177066
>that you can be a catholic from nowhere

nice try mr shekelstein not fooling anyone

[Anonymous No.15177106]

>>15177093
i watched that one having not seen any of the other ones and it was one of most confusing and ridiculous pieces of "entertainment" ive ever seen. it's abhorrent. but yes, it takes itself that seriously, and its critics do as well.

[Anonymous No.15177698]

>>15177106
youre an absolute blockhead

[Anonymous No.15177734]

>>15175576
>apple tv+ show
How does it feel to be a talentless hack? They've not produced a single watchable thing. Even small time Youtubers have more talent.

[Anonymous No.15177824]

>>15177059
>No timestamp
Take a small piece of paper. Write "/lit/" or whatever along with date and time in these "proofs", in case you're a newfag and don't know what that is.

[Anonymous No.15178168]

>>15177734
>How does it feel to be a talentless hack?
yep, I'm a talentless hack right up there with DiCpario, Scorcese, and a bunch of others currently jumping ship to Apple+ because, quite simply, they have the money and managed to outbid Netflix, Hulu, HBO plus, and all the others.
Every major studio is losing tens of millions dollars a day, and still no definite date on when movie theaters will open. IT could be 2 years. So, yes, I will gladly take my "talentless hack" ass and do a project for apple where I can be sure it at least won't be playing to empty theaters.

[Anonymous No.15178190]

>>15177096
>nice try mr shekelstein not fooling anyone
I am indeed confirmed in the Roman Catholic faith. So much so that when
John Paul II did his mass at Yankee stadium, I was one of 2 chosen to bring up the gifts from my parish.

[Anonymous No.15178240]

>>15176934
this, and they are all old & weird. you can be SAG & working in regional theater & have these.

anyway. IJ is good. it would be a sprawling movie. no way could it be accurately visually represented without minimum 13 hour long whatevers, ya know, a seasons worth.

in other news, the dirk gently adaptation for bbc is... ok?

[Anonymous No.15178255]

>>15175762
Got an agent lead for a well-written fantasy novel? 140k werdz.

[Anonymous No.15178263]

>>15178190
post nose

[Anonymous No.15178274]

>>15175088
Can any pleb pick this up and read it? I was under the impression it was like other meme books that suppose you have knowledge of the western canon.

[Anonymous No.15178311]

>>15178255
>Got an agent lead
you need a literary agent dude. have you been published before anywhere? The "golden rule" in 95% of cases is that it takes putting it on paper and being fucked once, then if you can deliver the second time you can get a decent payday.
Does anyone reading this, perchance, have a 2020 Samsung OLED and know if they updated the fucking programming? I can't get the goddam HDMI to go onto Playstation so I can play witcher 3 and it's drving me mad. I know "go to the video board." That board used to be fun, now it's full of arrogant pricks who seem to think that are skilled with computers since they can film themselves on the chinese spying app tik tok...

[Anonymous No.15178332]

>>15178311
ruined the thread

made about your larping bullshit now asking for tech advice just fuck off

[Anonymous No.15178354]

>>15178274
You need no knowledge going into it, assuming you're a 20+ something male who is alive and have an understanding of 90s culture/pop culture.

[Anonymous No.15178484]

This thread got derailed HARD