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15141649 No.15141649 [Reply] [Original]

>sin

Is this the most cucked concept ever invented?

>> No.15141671

In the abrahamic conception, pretty much yeah.
Especially Christians.

>> No.15141719

>>15141649
>cucked
You're trying to wriggle out, but it's way too late for you.

>> No.15141746

>>15141719
shoo christcuck. Don't you have some crawling to the mud to do to apologize for existing?

>> No.15141823
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>>15141649
>I was born to sin

>> No.15141932

>>15141823
Based poopoo clown

>> No.15141935

>>15141649

>nothing matters bro, just rape and pillage as much as you like because there's nothing waiting in the next life
>I'm gonna hook myself up to the serotonin drip and VR porn machine and stay there until my physical body dries up and evaporates
>lmao let people enjoy things!!

>> No.15141941

Is there a single concept that isn't cucked? Chad doesn't need concepts

>> No.15141971

>>15141649
You are one of God's only chances to bring beauty and truth into this terrible world

>> No.15141972

>>15141935
The history of Christianity has proved that rapists will still rape, murderers will still murder, and people in general will still be people.

>> No.15141988

Straying from god is cucked, so yes sin is by definition cuckoldry. The only way to not be a cuck to actually approach God with your entire being (body, soul, and spirit). He will welcome you.

>> No.15142000

>>15141972
What is your point? I can't assume you're intelligent and making a coherent point at the same time, so I thought I'd play it safe and ask for elaboration.

>> No.15142009

>>15141972

How is this an argument for or against anything? It really floors when people trot this one out as if it's meant to be convincing. Because something happens or doesn't happen means it's good or bad? Does the inevitability of something qualify its goodness or badness?

>> No.15142017

>>15142000
Religion is bullshit, call me a redditor but everything good in the world exists in spite of religion

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>>15141935
It's the anchorite that seeks "peace of mind." The conquering man – the warrior, the only free man – is the master of his body and his impulses. He lets his animal instinct to roam, but it returns to him. The priest is what Nietzsche calls the "impossible ascetic": he that cannot choose but be an ascetic. Your self-restraint is not a victory over degeneration: it is degeneration's victory over you.

>> No.15142229

>>15142017
You're entitled to wrong opinions but I don't see how that connects to your prior comments.

>> No.15142241

>>15141649
But you've already conceived of it yourself, you understand sin very well even if that's not the word you use for it. Whenever you condemn something, whenever you make it taboo to yourself, you have made it into a sin.

Is it not a sin to be a cuck?

>> No.15142244

>>15141746
Religion is already in your bones. You wouldn't use the word otherwise.

>> No.15142332

>>15142241
>Is it not a sin to be a cuck?

No it's not. I don't believe that you torturing yourself with guilt offends any deity. It's just that it's unreasonable and self limiting.

>> No.15142351

At what level? Original Sin? I personally feel it's pretty crummy, yeah, but it's a novel way of solving the problem of evil (that we're just inherently flawed). Anything more is a specific theological debate, which is beyond just "sin itself".

Sin period? No, because it's empirically verifiable that certain things cause harm to you and others and that you will be punished for doing it. Whether its God, a god, the state, your ancestors, yourself, or just nature punishing you, it doesn't really matter. The only quibble you can have here is over what is a sin and who can do the punishing of it.

>> No.15142366

>>15142332
Then the problem isn't sin, your problem is with repentance. What's the problem with feeling bad if you did something wrong?

>> No.15142454

>>15142366
Free will is an illusion. You don't really" choose" to do anything wrong.

>> No.15142456

>>15142332
Shame and guilt are the prerequisites of any functioning society.

>> No.15142464

>>15141935
It's literally Christianity's fault to invent the VR porn machine to dissimulate real physical sex with the virtual 'benign", exists-in-your-consciousness sex since they couldn't repress the libido by subduing whatever physical body proliferates out as radically evil and as "must be purged out of existence". This also explains the retarded no-fap christcucks who are now regretting whatever illusions of sex they think they experienced solely in their consciousness, much in a repenting St. Augustinian fashion.

>> No.15142486

>>15142454
Maybe so, but feeling bad about it is the first step to not doing it again.

>> No.15142489

>>15142454
>You don't really" choose" to do anything wrong.
Slave morality at it's finest. Yes, relinqish any control and just be the simplest response automaton of your environment.

>> No.15142528

>>15142486
> feeling bad about it is the first step to not doing it again.
No. First step is learning what you did wrong.
>>15142489
You are not above environment.

>> No.15142540

>>15142528
How are you supposed to know you did anything wrong at all if you don't feel bad?

>> No.15142555

>>15141988
is there a scriptural explanation for why christoids always talk about god like a woman doting on her husband?

>> No.15142574

>>15142555
Because God is the epitome of absolute masculinity.

>> No.15142575

>>15142540
That depends on what you're trying to do. If you try something, fail, and just feel bad, than what's going to change?

>> No.15142605

>>15142454
Wrong under every valid religion/philosophy.
If we have free will then we act like we don't, we suffer
If we don't have free will then act like we do, nothing is lost.
Since it is unproveable either way, we must go with the logical conclusion which is that we have free will.

>> No.15142613

>>15142575
Nobody said "just feel bad", you've both dodged his question and bent the argument on one fell swoop, bravo.

>> No.15142616

>>15142605
>Since it is unproveable either way, we must go with the logical conclusion which is that we have free will.
based retard

>> No.15142623

>>15142574
so it’s all basically one big sissy hypno fetish?

>> No.15142627

>>15142575
Well that's different to feeling bad because you did a sin, like where it's your conscience that's making you feel bad. What you're talking about there is feeling disappointed in your abilities, that's just your ego getting hurt not a conscientious thing.

>> No.15142633

>>15142574
Gaaaaayyyyy

>> No.15142635

>>15142555
Because God is love. For a true Christian he is number one, even before one's wife, children, family and friends.

There are no spouses in the next life.

>> No.15142641

>>15141649
Pagan cultures have shame, instead...

>> No.15142653

>>15142635
>There are no spouses in the next life.
that's unironically really cucked

>> No.15142661

>>15142613
That's what most christians preach. They tell people they're bad and should feel bad about it, ignoring any causes that explain why they are the way they are.

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Purity is a spook...

>> No.15142705

>>15142653
Why would one think you would spend the eternity indulging in human pleasures? Whats beyond death is something eternal, something above earthly desires.

>> No.15142730

>>15142705
imagine wasting your life for some imaginary future paradise

>> No.15142750

>>15142705
>haha bro like why would you even want to have a wife when you can’t coom any more?
these are the guys larping about the importance of traditional values

>> No.15142812

>>15142730
Imagine wasting eternity, by giving in to sin during the short time one has been allotted.

And I don't consider living piously and seeking a just life as wasting your human life.

>>15142750
I never said one shouldn't form a family, I was only highlighting how it is ephemeral. A spouse can become a different person with time, your wife can leave you, your kids can abandon you etc. God will always be by your side.

>> No.15143192

>>15141649
>me strong!
Says more about you than anything.