Based

[Anonymous No.15130642]

What is it about the word "Based" that compells us to disregard the anti-intellectualism and unironic bigotry of an individual's beliefs?

I saw a post earlier about how J. Peterson got to fame by attacking trans rights, and a poster replied that every trans person is a sexual deviant and 100% insufferable.

To this obviously incorrect response which goes against established data and makes logical fallacies, everyone in the thread- including me, replied "Based", "Hello? based department?" or some derivative.

This word is infused with something psychologically powerful and I really want some investigation as to how and why

[Anonymous No.15130660]

>>15130642
Because it's true. Every trans person I've met has been a self-obsessed narcissistic faggot.

[Anonymous No.15130673]

>>15130660
Ok that's based but again that's your personal anecdote. You could have met 100 trans people or 5 or actually none and it wouldn't speak for all trans people, or convince anyone that they are on average any more self-obsessed than a cis gendered person

Yet still I know that you will be the toast of the thread for acting "based"- which is the point of my pondering here

[Anonymous No.15130674]

>>15130642
It's the slang word of the year. By 2021 it'll go the way of "raise the roof" and "its yer birfday."

[Anonymous No.15130692]

It’s really a sad day on /lit/ when I can’t tell if this cringe is an elaborate troll by one of the zoomers who doesn’t read anything, or if it’s the sincere opinion of one of the leftist mouthbreathers who arrived recently that possess only the most committee-approved opinions
>based
To be based is to act according to yourself with little concern for the opinions or desires of others, though one may still act for the good of the whole, one who is based is also generally in possession of positive aesthetic modes

[Anonymous No.15130694]

>>15130642
This is a quality thread but unfortunately I have nothing to contribute, so you’ll just have to take this bump.

[Anonymous No.15130700]

>>15130674
>it’s the slang word of the year
>why yes, I only just arrived from reddit and don’t realise that it’s become a mainstay of the vernacular here, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.15130708]

>>15130660
Based

>>15130673
pic related, they're all deviants

[Anonymous No.15130714]

>>15130642
4chan is not irl, go outside

[Anonymous No.15130720]

>>15130692
>muh leftist strawman obsession

you're part of the problem

[Anonymous No.15130766]

>>15130692
You're going to have to take my word that I'm not a leftist, I was neo-reactionary from 2015-2019 but now that I've broadened my political research into taking in more left-leaning opinions, I'm now centre and want to be swayed by data and not feelings (Which seems central to the use of "based" in the anti-intellectual discourse practiced here.
I know it's a tongue in cheek phrase in 2020 but it's still used as described above.

Also, what exactly is a "Positive aesthetic node"?

[Anonymous No.15130796]

>>15130673
You want me to post scientific studies regarding transgender people? Because if you want facts and not subjectivity then I am ready.

[Anonymous No.15130806]

>>15130642
No. Literally by definition, as a trans person you are a sexual deviant. It's a sociological definition and being trans is participating in sexual deviancy. Look it up.

[Anonymous No.15130844]

>>15130806
This

[Anonymous No.15130848]

>>15130708
I'm sure you have a lot of experience with reddit

[Anonymous No.15130852]

>>15130766
>frogfaggot
>2015

checks out

[Anonymous No.15130916]

>>15130796
Ok so not a single one of those studies supports the notion that transgendered individuals are sexual deviants.
The closest one in that list is the MtF study (a decade old) which took an unreproducable sample of less than 20 transgendered MtF heterosexuals and <20 MtF homosexuals and commented that the hetero MtF had some levels of autogynephilia from being accepted by others as their gender identity. These findings have been both criticised and contradicted by similar studies carried out since

So you're arguments here are dishonest

[Anonymous No.15131079]

>>15130916
See the following:
>>15130806
>>15130844
tl:dr you don't know the definition of sexual deviancy.

[Anonymous No.15131086]

>>15130642
It's the opposite of being debased, and having to affirm transexuals as a type of victim class in need of protection is obviously debased

[Anonymous No.15131087]

>>15130642
Cringe.

[Anonymous No.15131103]

>>15130916
>not a single one of those studies supports the notion that transgendered individuals are sexual deviants.
Literally says that trans people are more prone to have STDs. They are more prone to have more mental illnesses and other mental disorders. How is that not degenerate? You want me to post a more specific study about trans people and how their psychology works?
>These findings have been both criticised and contradicted by similar studies carried out since
Citation required

[Anonymous No.15131107]

>>15131079
There's a difference between 'Deviance from the norm and the connotations that come with the term 'Sexual deviant'- which is exactly what that list of studies was attempting to imply

[Anonymous No.15131144]

>>15130916
Do you have any idea what deviancy is?

[Anonymous No.15131152]

>>15131079
>definition of sexual deviancy.
>Point of erection and/or orgasm, when the object of that excitement is considered abnormal in the context of the learned societal norms (paraphilia).
Transexualism is considered something abnormal in most of societies. It is in the recent years all these degerancy has been pushed. Trying to normalize something does not means that is not . If we normalized people to eat shit, that means eating shit is normal?

[Anonymous No.15131156]

>>15131079
>definition of sexual deviancy.
>Point of erection and/or orgasm, when the object of that excitement is considered abnormal in the context of the learned societal norms (paraphilia). Transexualism is considered something abnormal in most of societies. It is in the recent years all these degerancy has been pushed. Trying to normalize something does not means that is not degenerate. If we normalized people to eat shit, that means eating shit is normal?

[Anonymous No.15131167]

>>15131079
>definition of sexual deviancy.
>Point of erection and/or orgasm, when the object of that excitement is considered abnormal in the context of the learned societal norms (paraphilia).
Transexualism is considered something abnormal in most of societies. It is in the recent years all these degerancy has been pushed. Trying to normalize something does not means that is not degenerate. If we normalized people to eat shit, that means eating shit is normal?

[Anonymous No.15131174]

>>15130673
"based" is the 4chan equivalent of a reddit upvote you receive for conforming to herd mentality

[Anonymous No.15131179]

Based can be both ironic and serious.
I might reply based to an opinion I genuinely agree with, but I also will reply based to something that is so outrageously stupid and ridiculous that no same person could consider it seriously.
The issue with this of course is it's impossible to tell in some scenarios what is serious or what's ironic. This is a mainstay of 4chan culture, however increasingly newfags fail to recognize irony.
Newfags who took jokes seriously is what created /pol/, for example. Once the line was sufficiently blurred between irony and sincerity, newfags started to join and believed it was all sincere, which shifts the whole dynamic towards sincerity.

[Anonymous No.15131186]

>>15131179
This.

[Anonymous No.15131189]

>(Internet slang, 4chan, Reddit) Praiseworthy.
Antonym: cringe
Wow, OP is based as hell.
Based and red pilled.

[Anonymous No.15131197]

>>15130642
Gtfo faggot you need to figure it out

[Anonymous No.15131199]

Being based is a synonym for being rooted. More specifically, it means you're rooted in a time and a place, you know where you come from. You're not overtaken by idealistic notions or high-minded possibilities, you're keeping an eye on the road that's in front of you.

Being trans is not based because you're looking for validation from other people. It means that you'll feel bad if other people don't agree with you about the identity you've picked for yourself. Instead of being based, rooted, you're rooting yourself in the perception of you by others.

[Anonymous No.15131208]

>>15131167
>Trying to normalize something does not means that is not degenerate. If we normalized people to eat shit, that means eating shit is normal?
That's actually exactly what it means in accordance to the definition you posted. Just like eating ass and anal is no longer deviant.

[Anonymous No.15131245]

>>15130642
there are words like "racist" and "bigot" which have for quite some time delivered a considerable return on investment when wielded by even the lowliest of hands, though of course it is not the words themselves that contain this power. it is the function they represent in underpinning a totalitarian cultural milieu perpetuated by tyrannical jews. what you are experiencing when you encounter the word "based" is an overwhelming sense of their negation; a nervous apprehension that this unstable bubble of small minded authoritarianism might after all be underminable by a simple shitpost of defiance. all of which is to say that your social credit card has no purchasing power here. nigger

[Anonymous No.15131256]

>>15131208
If we follow the norms of a society that thinks raping children is ok, that means we should it? Something that is normalized by society does not implies that it is good. Fortunately, transgenderism is considered a sexual deviation in most of societies, and it should stay like that. Things that should be normalized should be based on logic and not on mundane pleasures. What is the point in cutting off your dick, so you could pretend to be a woman? That is irrational.

[Anonymous No.15131303]

>>15131107
Idiot, that's your fault for thinking in terms of connotation. All transgenders are sexual deviants. They can get fucked for all I care if they bring in their own personal connotation. Connotations don't change the fact they are sexual deviants.

[Anonymous No.15131329]

>>15131256
>strawmanning
>moving goalposts
Culture is dynamic and changes over time and place. I know you're trying to grasp at straws to equate transsexualism to pedophilia but let's stay level headed.

According to your definition sexual deviancy exists only relative to a given demographics cultural norms. Whether or not the norms are logical or illogical, harmful or constructive, etc. are not relevant to this discussion. If transsexualism becomes normalized in a culture according to the definition you presented it cannot be considered deviant.

[Anonymous No.15131466]

>>15131303
A fact that someones gender identity is in the minority is different from using the same language that has enabled these people to be persecuted, bullied and ostracized. If you don't believe people should have the intrinsic right to exist and not hide their identities then by all means but you see how this looks to people that aren't addicted to a Finno-Ugric didgeridoo forum
>inb4 you equivalate being transgender to being a child molester

[Anonymous No.15131478]

>>15131329
>Culture is dynamic and changes over time and place
True, however, is change always good?
>know you're trying to grasp at straws to equate transsexualism to pedophilia but let's stay level headed.
No, my point was to prove that irrational things should not be condoned. Pedophilia and transgenderism share something in common: they are both irrational. Raping a child that is not even sexually mature is not rational. You can not even procreate. Cutting off your dick will never make you a woman.
>According to your definition sexual deviancy exists only relative to a given demographics cultural norms. Whether or not the norms are logical or illogical, harmful or constructive, etc. are not relevant to this discussion. If transsexualism becomes normalized in a culture according to the definition you presented it cannot be considered deviant.
Even though something might be normalized, it does not imply it is ok. Things should be considered based on logic. Transgederism is considered degenerate in most places in the world. It is thanks to the normalization of abnormal sexual behaviours it is becoming more common. Again transgenderism might become normal, however, it is still irrational.

[Anonymous No.15131493]

>>15130642
Read Kaczynski. Anything 'based' is against the fundamental values of the system, ie human-driven behavior vs efficiency-driven rationalism.

[Anonymous No.15131528]

>>15131466
Once again, you're an idiot for bringing connotations into sexual deviancy. Keep being a midwit.

[Anonymous No.15131542]

>>15131466
You aren't trying to change your gender identity if you are chopping dicks/tits off or getting prosthetic dick/tits. Those are biological and related to sex. If you're doing that you're trying to change your biological sex.

[Anonymous No.15131543]

>>15131478
>false equivelancies
>appeals to tradition
>disregards his own culture that doesn't agree with him
>selectivley appeals to foreign cultures that agree with him

Also, where do you derive the ethical view that having a non-cisgender identity is objectively not "ok"? Is it your feels? Is it because it's based? Is it shit and piss, even cum?
>inb4 "Yes. I am ok with being a based retard"

[Anonymous No.15131564]

>>15131466
>>15131107
I think your peabrain has conflated the terms deviant and degenerate. You should get that checked out.

[Anonymous No.15131573]

>>15131528
So you have nothing against transgender identities when you say Sexual Deviant beyond people getting nitpicky over terminology?

[Anonymous No.15131575]

Guenon is based

[Anonymous No.15131579]

>>15131174
nah. its different,
its more like having an solid opinion and regardless of if its true or false you stand by it.
thats based

[Anonymous No.15131586]

>>15131564
>
>>15131573

[Anonymous No.15131591]

>>15130642
no one is more anti-intellectual than the left today, they utter racist, fascist, the conversation is over.

[Anonymous No.15131597]

>>15130700
btfo

[Anonymous No.15131603]

>>15131543
Not him, but
>false equivalencies
And what would those be?
>appeals to tradition
Well, of course he does. His whole argument is based on the fact that certain change can be (and in this case, is) a detriment to society.
>disregards his own culture that doesn't agree with him
>selectivley appeals to foreign cultures that agree with him
Yes, some cultures are better than others. Why would I agree to the practices of my own culture if I consider them immoral?

>Also, where do you derive the ethical view that having a non-cisgender identity is objectively not "ok"?
Can you read? Because it does not make any logical sense and doesn't constitute any sort of meaningful progression.

[Anonymous No.15131611]

>>15130720
>calling others the problem while wojak posting
FUCK OUT OF MY BOARD FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.15131618]

>>15130692
this
/thread

[Anonymous No.15131624]

>>15131573
I honestly don't think you understand what sexual deviancy is. It's not an insult. It's a categorization based on behavior and expression. Being classified as a sexual deviant does not mean you are a bad person, etc. It does not inherently carry a negative connotation. Midwits like you bring in the negative connotation because you don't understand what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.15131637]

>>15131543
>appeals to tradition
You mean logic. Where did I mention tradition?
>disregards his own culture that doesn't agree with him
Things that should frowned upon should be things that does not bring a positive benefit for the group/collective. Tell me why we should tolerate something irrational? How being transgender bring something good? My personal view is based mostly in logic and stadistics.
>selectivley appeals to foreign cultures that agree with him
When did I mention foreign cultures. Please greentext all the evidence.
>where do you derive the ethical view that having a non-cisgender identity is objectively not "ok"? Is it your feels?
Give me a logical argument why being a transgender is good or logical. How choping off your dick is bringing progress for humanity? Give me emperical evidence.

[Anonymous No.15131642]

>>15131103
based
post more data, i need more data to send to the trans people i know in my life, so i can ruin their day

[Anonymous No.15131668]

>>15131642
Here is something disturbing.

[Anonymous No.15131670]

>>15131642

[Anonymous No.15131672]

[Anonymous No.15131687]

>>15130720
nice outdated meme faggot

[Anonymous No.15131698]

“We are completely perplexed, then, and you must clear up the question for us, of what you intend to signify when you use the word "based". Obviously you must be quite familiar with what you mean, whereas we, who formerly imagined we knew, are now at a loss.”

[Anonymous No.15131718]

>>15131668
>ok tranny just spend 3 hours a day for the rest of your life keeping a gaping wound from healing
Yeah that certainly won't cause medical complications.

[Anonymous No.15131748]

>>15131718
Post-economic collapse trannies are fucked.

[Anonymous No.15131791]

>>15131543
butters...
is that you?
come here you little rascal, you really think you could trick us, come on
*rapes butters because she is biologically a female*

[Anonymous No.15131812]

>>15131668
>>15131670
thanks hope those faggots kill themselves. ill keep you guys updated.

[Anonymous No.15131815]

>>15130642
>this obviously incorrect response which goes against established data and makes logical fallacies
Provide this established data and explain the logical fallacies. You have 24 hours to reply to my post or else you and your thread will be rendered cringe and bluepilled.

[Anonymous No.15131819]

>>15131812
A lot do and most of them are horribly depressed.
The smart ones detransition with limited damage done, the rest are not to lucky.