What religion are you larping as?

[Anonymous No.15063593]

Are you practicing and living these philosophies or just identity toppings

[Anonymous No.15063597]

>>15063593
try MahaPrajnaParamita-Sastra by Nagarjuna

[Anonymous No.15063603]

>>15063597
That's a fake scripture which doesn't come from Buddha but was falsified by someone else much later. Mahayana, not even once

[Anonymous No.15063604]

>>15063593
>identity toppings
This. I much prefer my non-dual pizza to have some nice toppings, brother...

[Anonymous No.15063616]

>>15063593
>just identity toppings
yeah, but else do you need?

[Anonymous No.15063624]

Lmao I don't get why normies appreciate Buddhism without also reading Hindu mythology

[Anonymous No.15063634]

>>15063624
I respect it as different words pointing towards the same path, and I don't have a lot of time to find out.

[Anonymous No.15063715]

>>15063604
Based, ortho christian (born into) for earthly matters many feasts, nice rituals and for spiritual realization nonduality

[Anonymous No.15063722]

>>15063624
They're not even similar except for the reincarnation.

[Anonymous No.15063729]

Promethean fire worshipper

[Anonymous No.15063856]

I myself am I syncretist, I pick and choose follow different faiths, brothers...

[Anonymous No.15063939]

>>15063593
Deep down I am a schizo that thinks i'm living in a type of matrix run by some demon God but I'm going to larp as a Christian for a while.

[Anonymous No.15063966]

>>15063856
Based.
>>15063593
I am a Catholic by birth. I go to church weekly when possible. I also meditate regularly at a local zen center and practice ashtanga yoga at a local ashram.

Previously I indulged in chaos magick and occultism but it brought too much material entanglement and spiritual confusion although I will say I still enjoy reading esoteric and particularly hermetic texts.

Many ancients believed Christianity was compatible with a prisca theologia, i.e., there is a perennialism of virtue even among pagans...

>>15063939
Read up on gnosticism?

>>15063604
Just don't get too attached to your toppings or you might forget the taste of the nondual base!

[Anonymous No.15063969]

>>15063593
Non-dualism is obviously correct, I just try to peacefully remain in non-dual awareness as I go about my day while studying the writings of the various non-dual schools, I will be traveling to India at the next good opportunity to be initiated into a non-dual sect but am content with just reading Hindu, Tantric, Sufi, Neoplatonic etc stuff now

[Anonymous No.15063976]

>>15063593
Taoism with a bit of Spinoza
Don't try at all

[Anonymous No.15063983]

Mandaeism

[Anonymous No.15064082]

>>15063966
>I go to church weekly when possible. I also meditate regularly at a local zen center and practice ashtanga yoga at a local ashram.
Based... Do not let your spirituality by limited by mere form, brothers...

>>15063969
>Non-dualism is obviously correct,
This... I honestly want to get ordained as a priest just to stealthily spread it to stupid christcucks who still can't see it.
I think I should receive a proper and legitimate initiation before it though, so people don't think anything weird.

[Anonymous No.15064103]

>>15064082
shut up, demonic shill. your posts always revolve around mockery and deception. have you realized that? ALWAYS MOCKERY AND DECEPTION. this is further proof
>get ordained as a priest just to stealthily spread it to stupid christcucks
you are so rebellious that you cannot see it. you are really the most spiritually deluded person ive came across with. i'm not picking on you, but you gotta quit all this bullshit

[Anonymous No.15064133]

>>15064103
Why am I demonic for merely wanting to spread the truth in my culture? Unfortunately, I wasn't born brahmin so I need to do my karma-yoga and selflessely help other people get towards accepting the correct view.

[Anonymous No.15064145]

>>15064133
you might think you have good intentions but your means are wicked as it is evident from your posts

[Anonymous No.15064217]

>>15064145
meanwhile, you are the one tossing more mean-spirited insults than a schoolboy

[Anonymous No.15064230]

>>15063593
I'm a quaker. My dad and his dad were not quakers but everybody before them going back through my family's history in america all the way to europe was.

[Anonymous No.15064244]

>>15064217
do not relativize things, my dude. i do not wish you evil. do not act like mockery the proposition of deception aren't worse than calling you demonic shill. you are the one who keeps saying 'christcuck'

[Anonymous No.15064356]

>>15064244
I'm not the guy you were insulting as pic related proves, and no, it's not 'relativizing' to point out that you are a filthy hypocrite who is more guilty of what you accuse others of

[Anonymous No.15064374]

>>15063715
>ortho christian
Sad... Orthodoxy is the highest refutation of all non-dualist though.

[Anonymous No.15064388]

>>15064356
how is calling a demonic shill "demonic shill" an insult? tell me exactly where lies my hypocrisy
>guy proposes deception
>mocks christians
but calling him for what he is is worse. yeah, sure.

[Anonymous No.15064389]

>>15064145
Why though? I will be doubly-initiated and thus suitable for transfering the spiritual influence Guenon (pbuh) spoke of. You seem jealous of being confined to the internet, while I will be doing some nice karma-yoga and secretely meditating and praying to my Ishvaras while celebrating the mass.

[Anonymous No.15064398]

>>15064389
And to be clear, I am not mocking the good but low IQ chritians who don't even know about non-dualism, I am mocking christcucks who think that the Christian metaphysic ultimately isn't just a pale form of Advaita.

[Anonymous No.15064419]

>>15063593
I practice zen by not reading zen texts.

[Anonymous No.15064430]

>>15064389
>literally says he will worship demons at mass
>not a demonic shill
???

the spiritually aware Christian can sense demon-worshippers from a mile away, so good luck with getting ordained and not smited by the One True God of Israel for trying to mock him.

But our God is in heaven;
He does whatever He pleases.
Their idols are silver and gold,
The work of men’s hands.
They have mouths, but they do not speak;
Eyes they have, but they do not see;
They have ears, but they do not hear;
Noses they have, but they do not smell;
They have hands, but they do not handle;
Feet they have, but they do not walk;
Nor do they mutter through their throat.
Those who make them are like them;
So is everyone who trusts in them.

O Israel, trust in the Lord;
He is their help and their shield.
O house of Aaron, trust in the Lord;
He is their help and their shield.
You who fear the Lord, trust in the Lord;
He is their help and their shield.

[Anonymous No.15064433]

>>15064389
>>15064398
christ refuted non-dualism. He promised He will resurrect us WITH OUR BODIES and that we will be judged according to our personal history. If you really get into christian theology you'll see the truth about how a personal God who created humans out of nothing will have a personal judgement on them

the fact some mystics propose mystical union in no way is a defense of non-dualism. if you deny the nicene creed you are an heretic

[Anonymous No.15064487]

>>15064433
>He promised He will resurrect us WITH OUR BODIES and that we will be judged according to our personal history.
that was symbolical and then Paul ruined Christianity by systemizating it into an exoterism that lost the true esoteric teaching of Christ which was non-dualism and which one can now only find scattered glimpses of in the bible and in suppressed texts like the Gospel of Thomas, you have let yourself become enamored of the exterior forms and have lost sight of the wisdom that Christ sought to reveal to people

[Anonymous No.15064499]

>>15063729
based jorjaniposter

[Anonymous No.15064504]

>>15064487
2000 years of christian tradition
but somehow your heterodox views are the correct (and they rely on recent discoveries of gnostic texts). just stop

[Anonymous No.15064522]

>>15064504
The most important Christian mystics affirm what I speak of as this book shows, but you are too blinded by your resentment to see that

https://www2.uned.es/dpto-hdi/History%20of%20Non-dual%20Meditation%20Methods.pdf

[Anonymous No.15064534]

Thinking either Tibetan Buddhism or Zen

[Anonymous No.15064571]

>>15064522
mystics were not theologians, you cannot base your beliefs on ecstatic experiences --- not even the mystics are capable of interpreting their experiences. and yes ive seen this book when you posted earlier.

just look at what you are proposing: infiltrating the church to preach non-dualism, celebrating mass with false intentions etc.

[Anonymous No.15064582]

>>15063593
I am failing to be an Orthodox Christian.

[Anonymous No.15064585]

>>15063976
>Don't try at all
based and taopilled

[Anonymous No.15064617]

>>15063976
>Spinoza

>atheist jew
goyim pilled

[Anonymous No.15064628]

>>15064487
>Jesus answered him, “I have spoken openly to the world. I have always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where all Jews come together. I have said nothing in secret.
>I have said nothing in secret.

[Anonymous No.15064667]

>>15064430
>But our God is in heaven;
>He does whatever He pleases.
>Their idols are silver and gold,
>The work of men’s hands.
>They have mouths, but they do not speak;
>Eyes they have, but they do not see;
>They have ears, but they do not hear;
>Noses they have, but they do not smell;
>They have hands, but they do not handle;
>Feet they have, but they do not walk;
>Nor do they mutter through their throat.
>Those who make them are like them;
>So is everyone who trusts in them.
>O Israel, trust in the Lord;
>He is their help and their shield.
>O house of Aaron, trust in the Lord;
>He is their help and their shield.
>You who fear the Lord, trust in the Lord;
>He is their help and their shield.

Based.

[Anonymous No.15064672]

>>15064628
10The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”

11He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 13This is why I speak to them in parables:

“Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.

Matthew 13:10-13

[Anonymous No.15064673]

>>15064571
Agreed.

Just become a gnostic priest if you like heresies bro

[Anonymous No.15064680]

>>15064628
Based.
Brainlet exoteric/esoteric false-dichotomy retroactively and eternally refuted.

[Anonymous No.15064683]

>>15064672
Why are you using """"corrupted"""" scripture to try to prove your point?

[Anonymous No.15064692]

>>15064487
>that was symbolical and then Paul ruined Christianity by systemizating it
Can't tell if this is an atheist bugman or a hindu bugman. Seems like the "all (false) religions are just the same bro" meme actually holds some water.

[Anonymous No.15064702]

>>15064522
>mportant Christian mystics
That book isn't written by a Christian mystic, it's just an intepretation of what some Christian mystics wrote through his corrupted lense. Even if these writing were correct, there's still the issue of a heretic with a refuted viewpoint interpreting them.

[Anonymous No.15064703]

>>15064672
simon magus is the archetypical esoteric. he offered peter money to get "initiated" as if there was an esoteric doctrine

>Simon the Sorcerer
9 Now for some time a man named Simon had practiced sorcery in the city and amazed all the people of Samaria. He boasted that he was someone great, 10 and all the people, both high and low, gave him their attention and exclaimed, “This man is rightly called the Great Power of God.” 11 They followed him because he had amazed them for a long time with his sorcery. 12 But when they believed Philip as he proclaimed the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13 Simon himself believed and was baptized. And he followed Philip everywhere, astonished by the great signs and miracles he saw.

14 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria. 15 When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

18 When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19 and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”

20 Peter answered: “May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money! 21 You have no part or share in this ministry, because your heart is not right before God. 22 Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord in the hope that he may forgive you for having such a thought in your heart. 23 For I see that you are full of bitterness and captive to sin.”

24 Then Simon answered, “Pray to the Lord for me so that nothing you have said may happen to me.”

[Anonymous No.15064710]

I'm a new age weirdo and I'm not afraid to admit it.

[Anonymous No.15064715]

>>15064703
THATS A CORRUPTED PART INSERTED LATER BY THE EXOTERICS!!! ONLY SMALL PARTS WHICH VAGUELY SOUND NONDUAL IF YOU TWIST THEM ENOUGH ARE ACTUALLY TRUE!!!!!

[Anonymous No.15064723]

>>15064487
>then Paul ruined Christianity
Paul literally saw the Light of Christ and converted to Christianity because of that. How is anything an """"esoteric initiaiton"""" if this isn't?

[Anonymous No.15064735]

>>15064571
Again for the second time, I wasn't that guy

[Anonymous No.15064743]

"that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring'...
St Paul.

He was enlightened by the Holy Spirit, 100%.

[Anonymous No.15064744]

>>15064723
>trusting a Jew

[Anonymous No.15064755]

>>15064744
get over it euro cuck

[Anonymous No.15064783]

>>15064430
>the spiritually aware Christian can sense demon-worshippers from a mile away, so good luck with getting ordained and not smited by the One True God of Israel for trying to mock him.

This isn't CK2 or D&D. Priests can't cast Detect Evil.

[Anonymous No.15064816]

>>15063966
did chaos magick work?

[Anonymous No.15064829]

>>15064816
oh it works alright.
you're just going to pay dearly for engaging in it.

[Anonymous No.15064833]

>>15064829
What happened? You can't leave us hanging like that.

[Anonymous No.15064840]

I’m practicing my religion of Germanic Polytheism every day of my life. I also worship the Yggdrasil every Wednesday (Odin’s day), by praying in front of the Yggdrasil and reading the Völuspá

[Anonymous No.15064858]

>>15064840
>I’m practicing my religion of Germanic Polytheism every day of my life.
that's an empty statement considering neopaganism is just made-up on the spot. Why exactly do you worship yggdrsial and read the voluspa? Seems like you're just appropriating Christian conceptions of the spiritually meritorious.

[Anonymous No.15064874]

>>15064829
Anon..

[Anonymous No.15064881]

>>15064858
> Why exactly do you worship yggdrsial and read the voluspa?

The Yggdrasil is the connection of the earth, by the roots of the tree, through the tree itself, up into the sky. Furthermore, the Völuspá tells me about the fate of the ruling powers.

[Anonymous No.15064891]

>>15063593
I'm Orthodox and yeah I go to church every Sunday I can, I was baptized almost a year ago.

[Anonymous No.15064916]

>>15064840
who handed to you these practices? exactly. do not think this is religion

[Anonymous No.15064927]

>>15064487
>that was symbolical
duude so much this! i love when Thomas symbolically put his symbolical finger into the symbolical open wound of Christ's body after its symbolical resurrection.... this was merely a non-dual parable to illustrate the illusory nature of Christ's body and the non-duality of Thomas' finger with his wound.....................................

[Anonymous No.15064982]

>>15064783
If you rape enough children, you get to level up and learn spells.

[Anonymous No.15064984]

>>15063603
Hence why he said "by Nagarjuna"

[Anonymous No.15064986]

>>15064916
>who handed to you these practices?
Why does that matter? I choose them as mine. They give me meaning and purpose. If you don’t like that, that’s your problem.

[Anonymous No.15065019]

>>15063593
I have recieved Catholic education, I'm an agnostic myself but I find lots of fun in ridiculizing atheist and agnostics that try to attack Christianity or theism in general

[Anonymous No.15065052]

>>15064986
>Why does that matter?
>I choose them as mine.
>They give me meaning and purpose.
>If you don’t like that, that’s your problem.

[Anonymous No.15065055]

>>15064571
>mystics were not theologians, you cannot base your beliefs on ecstatic experiences --- not even the mystics are capable of interpreting their experiences
It is only in direct spiritual experience that one can come to truly know God, which is why Aquinas renounced all his writings as being worthless near the end of his life after he had a profound spiritual experience, he is the rare example of the Christian theologian who had the insight to overcome his ignorance

[Anonymous No.15065060]

>>15063603
Nagarjuna > Buddha

It's just unfortunate that they did not completely discard Buddhism after Nagarjuna and instead tried to unite the two.

[Anonymous No.15065072]

>>15065052
You know, the fact that you get so defensive when someone rejects your religion (I can tell from your seething that you’re a Christian) speaks volumes about how insecure you are about your religion

[Anonymous No.15065109]

>>15065055
>rare example of the Christian theologian
"rare" in your very limited modern bugmanized knowledge about Christianity perhaps.

[Anonymous No.15065135]

>>15064986
>I choose them as mine.
>They give me meaning and purpose.
read mircea eliade. you are mistaken about what constitutes a religion. to make things worse you are basing your beliefs on your psyche. "i believe in it because it makes me feel better". LARPing at its cringest form

i get that pagan larpers long for a sense of the sacred, but what you are doing isn't sacred by any means. then again read mircea. you'll learn about what a religion is and to avoid the dangers of basing your beliefs on your own psyche. you might have even to read guenon and the others

>>15065072
he could be a muslim, an atheist or anything and he would be right. even guenonians are aware of the invalidity of pagan larping due to its lack of tradition and inversion

[Anonymous No.15065196]

>>15063593
Germanic pagan aesthetically and mythological, nondualist metaphysically, and Stoic/Buddhist philosophically.
>tl;dr I've completed the system.

How wonderful it is to worship Odin in his greatness and to awe at his terrifying power! And how sweet it is to overcome the perfumed allure of lady Fortune and to be willingly guided by Fate! For I have now found rest in the Absolute knowing that this is not my self.

[Anonymous No.15065212]

>>15063729
very based. I love jorjani

[Anonymous No.15065225]

>>15065196
the more i stick around the more i realize how non-dualism attracts those who are unconsciously satanic

[Anonymous No.15065243]

>>15063976
taoism ftw
all i wanna do is bang hot sluts and read ancient chinese wisdom books

[Anonymous No.15065247]

>>15065225
Now object to it without appealing to jewish mythology.

[Anonymous No.15065330]

>>15065135
Eliade is practically nondualist. Man was friends with Guenon and Evola. His reasoning for the sacred is circular and he appeals to the myth of disenchantment even though it is clear these forces are still alive today (though most academics fear the new age and new religions too much to talk about it).

[Anonymous No.15065366]

>>15065060
That’s bold. I like you. I will thrust you into the jaws of Mara last.

[Anonymous No.15065413]

>>15065247
how about you prove objective reality is just an illusion first
>shoot anon's feet
>bro it's all an illusion. free yourself from the maya. do not get attached to the appearance of things. your pain is an illusion. i share the same self as you do. ultimately, i, the shooter, and you are one. there is no I shooter and you victim, there is just being

on a higher sphere the problem of evil is one of things that refutes nondualism

>>15065330
he was friends with evola and not guenon. he only read guenon. was evola a nondualist even? i never read him. i read 4 or 5 books by eliade and he never professed nondualism. he was a christian orthodox and never declared his faith in his books

[Anonymous No.15065423]

Shintoist but I'm becoming more and more interested in Roman/Greek polytheism

[Anonymous No.15065485]

>>15063593
Catholic Pagan

[Anonymous No.15065516]

>>15065060
Nagarjuna is a joke, if all views end in contradiction as he attempts to but fails to show then there is no reason to accept Buddhism as true anymore as it involves all these unfalsifiable metaphysical claims about rebirth, samsara, karma, nirvana, stream-entrants and so forth which all constitute views, and if you abandon these premises then there is no longer any reason to even be trying to meditate or doing anything to escape samsara anymore but you might as well indulge in hedonism or simply enjoy acquiring wealth and raising a family. If you take Nagarjuna without Buddhism its just bugman agnosticism (I see why so many crypto-materialists love him)

[Anonymous No.15065528]

>>15065196
How are you doing surviving the coronavirus in Sweden my nigga?

[Anonymous No.15065560]

>>15065413
>on a higher sphere the problem of evil is one of things that refutes nondualism
no it doesn't lol I love how you just repeat bullshit claims over and over without any justification aside from sentimental appeals to Christianity that are without any foundation in reason or truth, in fact in the book "The Problem of Evil and Indian Thought" by Arthur Herman the author examines all the different answers to the problem of evil and applies logic formulas to them and concludes that the non-dualistic Vedanta schools are the only religious teachings that satisfactorily solve the problem of evil

[Anonymous No.15065565]

>>15065423
Buddhism

[Anonymous No.15065576]

>>15063593
I'm a chaos magician. It's impossible to do wrong

[Anonymous No.15065578]

>>15065560
>k "The Problem of Evil and Indian Thought" by Arthur Herman the author examines all the different answers to the problem of evil
I meant to write this but in case its not clear from the post he examines the Christian answers to the problem and finds them to be unsupported by logic and he shows how they are not satisfactory solitions to the problem btw

[Anonymous No.15065596]

>>15065560
>this modern scholar says it so it must be true!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.15065615]

@15065578
>unsupported by logic
>he thinks logic (a creation of the incarnate Logos) is what decides the truth of Christianity
OH NO NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.15065630]

>>15065560
>non-dualistic Vedanta schools are the only religious teachings that satisfactorily solve the problem of evil
so what is that solution?

[Anonymous No.15065649]

>>15065630
the problem was illusory in the first place, thus any solution to it proves the illusory nature of the teaching.

[Anonymous No.15065653]

>>15065528
No one cares about it in Sweden. Haven't seen a single person with a mask. The only difference really is that you can't visit people at old folks homes.

[Anonymous No.15065676]

>>15065649
ok so there's no evil in killing your mother and raping her corpse until your dick starts resembling a raisin?

[Anonymous No.15065688]

>>15065560 (You)
>no it doesn't lol I love how you
ERMMM?? excuse me, guenonfag, let it be known that you and I are one. theres no you. arthur herman? yes, he's also us. by refuting myself you are also refuting yourself

you still have not proven objective reality is an illusion. let me repeat this truth for the joy of our-selfs: non dualism is schizo apophaticism
>>15065565 (You)
>>15065576 (You)
>>15065578 (You)
>>15065596 (You)
all one in conditional reality

[Anonymous No.15065703]

>>15065688 (You)
this kills the nondualist

[Anonymous No.15065721]

>>15065676
only relatively, not absolutely. it lowers your karma score and leads you further into illusion though, so better be good and meditate more instead to realize the illusoryness of murder.

[Anonymous No.15065766]

>>15065721
>doing something we define as bad lowers your karma
>"""better be good"""
can you even read what you're writing. if the metaphysical world truly was non-dualistic, then you would find there instances resembling both raping your mother and living in peace and ascetically.
how can the world be non-dualistic if earthly BAD happens to lead to metaphysical bad and earthly GOOD happens to lead to metaphysical good?
Why is rape and murder illusory but meditation and goodness are not, when BOTH are earthly/empirical acts?

[Anonymous No.15065854]

>>15065560
>sentimental appeals
Lmao. The so-called "problem" of evil literally is just a sentimental appeal against the Christian God (the only true God who also ""happens"" to have distinctions in him, refuting non-duality).

[Anonymous No.15065913]

>>15064743
Absolutely. Christ knew what he was doing when he chose Paul.

[Anonymous No.15066153]

>>15065721
>illusoryness of murder.
How is it an illusion? Oh I get it. just say everything is nothing and then nothing matters except the Ultimate Reality. What a shity solution. Christianity explains evil as a lack of Union with God. What worthy of being with God cannot be nothing. probably the two religions have the same conclusion, but ones interpretation of the expression of the solution will vary.

[Anonymous No.15066174]

>>15063966
>Many ancients believed Christianity was compatible with a prisca theologia, i.e., there is a perennialism of virtue even among pagans...
Sources? This could change my life

[Anonymous No.15066194]

I was thinking about larping as a christian orthodox, not sure though, may continue atheist.

[Anonymous No.15066209]

>>15065630
>>15065676
>>15065721
>>15066153
non-dualists have no solution and no ethics

its bourgeois mysticism for people who dont want a God that demands you to do something

>bro, your 4 year old daughter was kidnapped, raped, and beat to death with a baseball bat? NOT REAL

this logic is why indians and chinese have shitty bugman societies...even on the realm of metaphysics non-dualists can be refuted but they just cover their ears and insist youre misinterpreting it or theres a conspiracy out to hide the real truth

[Anonymous No.15066213]

>>15066174
How is the obvious fact that some pagans were virtuous going to change your life? Even pagans are human and thus made in the image of God. This doesn't change the fact that Christianity is absolutely the only truth and Christ is the way, the truth, the life.

[Anonymous No.15066232]

>>15066194
Religions aren't something you just pick and choose like in a cafeteria, despite what Guenonfags might have you believe. Trust in God to lead you to the true path. I prayed to the God of Israel and he brought me to Christianity.

[Anonymous No.15066247]

>>15064927
I just love how scenes like this utterly destroy all kinds of gnostic body-denying nonsense like non-dualism.

[Anonymous No.15066251]

Follow your heart! My heart says this world is evil and God agrees with me he wants us all to live in a better world. I know it to be true! I have no doubts anymore :)

[Anonymous No.15066259]

>>15066209
>its bourgeois mysticism for people who dont want a God that demands you to do something
You got it mixed up. Christianity is the religion for the cosmopolitan atomized bourgeois that can't justify doing anything except through some abstraction in the sky.

Nondualists are perfectly capable of performing acts in the world fueled by tribe and community. Christianity have no such things as it stands in opposition to them so I can see why it would seem silly from a Christian point of view when nondualists reject your notions deriving worldly meaning from a personal deity.

[Anonymous No.15066264]

>>15066259
saying it doesn't make it true

non-dualism is about navel gazing in spiritual opium dens

[Anonymous No.15066269]

@15066259
>tribe and community
>Christianity have no such things
>the most important ritual is communal by its very nature
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.15066271]

>>15066259
Right, it's actually the esoterists, the masons, the sufi mystics, and the neo-advaitins who are at the forefront of charity work and not the Catholics.

[Anonymous No.15066278]

>>15063593
There is no need for heavens or consolations.

[Anonymous No.15066284]

>>15066269
He meant, "get ready, I'm about to double-down and call everyone a retard without providing a substantial argument for why non-dualism is inherently amoral and individualist"

[Anonymous No.15066287]

>>15066259
>Nondualists are perfectly capable of performing acts
The non-dualist doesn't believe in the ultimate reality of his acts. It's bugman. You're just doing them to gain extra points for your own contingent self, which you ironically even deny the reaity of.

[Anonymous No.15066305]

>>15064816
>did chaos magick work?
Never worked for me at least.

[Anonymous No.15066346]

>larping as someone who is larping as a tradcath

I was born and raised Catholic, but somewhere along the way I lost the genuine desire to hold my faith close to me in the way the most zealous do. I understand the theology and all that good stuff, but Catholic school and being an altar boy whose priest got arrested for reasons you could only guess left a vacuous hole where my faith should be. For a brief moment I thought I was an atheist, but then settled with agnosticism. I then had an acid trip that connected me with the monad and for that brief moment that I connected with the singularity, it all made sense. I don't think I'll ever be able to have that experience again with or without psychedelics, and it's probably for the best that I don't go chasing that fleeting feeling. Though I have strong opinions towards Protestantism, I read Kierkegaard and had a renewed interest in the concept of faith. A lot of the metaphysical arguments for God I believe need some strong reinterpretation for the 21st century, though I do think the trinitarian ideas of Catholicism hold strong weight, though my interpretation is probably considered too unorthodox for me to be considered theologically traditional. I do believe that Pope Francis is unironically a fantastic pope, though the institutional abuses that have been neglected for too long bring me great sadness for the institution. I am most certainly too 'liberal' with my politics, and would probably be better off as an Episcopalian, yet my love for the institution prevents me from joining them. Perhaps, if they let priests marry I would become a priest like my teachers wanted me to be, but alas I don't think the West is ready for that kind of change.

>tl;dr I have very complex views towards spirituality and religion

But In the meantime I occasionally hop in theological threads to offer advice give answers to new converts with that zeal and try to give fair arguments for the faith, though my own waivers at any given time. I've been observing lent this year in regards to meat on Fridays, and maybe when this corona thing is over I might go back to mass.

Keep strong, you stronger knights of faith, but don't let zeal overcome your being

[Anonymous No.15066352]

>>15066278
There is no need for Bliss or enlightenment. Or if you're an atheist there is no need for existence at all.

[Anonymous No.15066366]

>>15066269
Going to the same church once a week does not a community make. Christianity is globohomo.
>>15066271
>charity
cringe
>>15066287
>The non-dualist doesn't believe in the ultimate reality of his acts
So what? Nondualists do not believe in the ultimate reality of eating twinkies either but they still do it.

Only Abrahamics need to justify their virtue through an invisible man in the sky. Virtue for the chad nondualist is its own good.

Excuse me while I crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and hear the lamentation of their women and then go meditate on The One. After that I might go help an old lady cross the street. Meanwhile you virgins will be forever out pilpulling the Bible trying to find quotes and reasons to do or not do x.

[Anonymous No.15066368]

>>15066346
>ut Catholic school and being an altar boy whose priest got arrested for reasons you could only guess
probably because he fondled some teenager, or some other thing which isn't nearly as bad as you probably assume.

[Anonymous No.15066376]

>>15066346
>trinitarian ideas of Catholicism hold strong weight
>hold strong weight
tldr - i am just a relativist who thinks of religion as something molded to suit my intelligence and my limited understanding of the world

[Anonymous No.15066381]

>>15066366
>globohomo
Nothing wrong with that. Homosexuality is just an Illusory act with no consequences.

[Anonymous No.15066390]

>>15066381
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.15066393]

Monism is actually very common. When Christians believe it is only by God that they are saved they deny dualism and accept monism. Typical Predeterminism is also a monist belief. atheist are also often monist because they believe in determinism and the ultimate Primacy of nature. But I think a profound understanding of non dualism is not the brainlet monism that people blindly profess it to be.

[Anonymous No.15066404]

>>15066393
>ALL RELIGIONS ARE JUST SAYIJG THE SAME THING DUUUDE

[Anonymous No.15066455]

>>15065688
>refuting myself you are also refuting yourself
As I have already explained these stupid gotcha questions dont work at all because Advaita accepts that multiplicty exists in conditional reality. The Self which we all share doesn't act or advance arguments, I'm only refuting your unreal individual ego and not the supra-individual Self we all share
>you still have not proven objective reality is an illusion
non-dualists dont need to prove it to you as with Advaitins for example they simply accept it from their revealed scriptures which say so, if you are really curious you can look up the dialectics which happened between the logician Nyaya school and Advaita and read about how Advaita showed it's impossible to prove that the world is real, look up the Gettier problem to see how one cannot even establish the validity of the epistemological catagories that one would need to prove the reality of the world
>>15065703
no it doesn't lol
>>15065676
The other poster you replied to did not give the answer that is explained in the book, non-dualism would still regard that as evil and it would lead you further away from God and into more hellish rebirths
>>15065766
the other poster was not me, Im the one who posted about the book, in Vedanta/Hinduism bad acts lead to bad karma and rebirth into various temporary hells or as a plant or bugs as punishment while good acts lead to better rebirths, just because good and evil are ultimately transcended as unreal divisions once you reach complete and irreversible union with God doesn't mean that consequences don't follow from your actions while you are still in the cycle of rebirth, does that clear up your confusion? Good acts and bad acts are ultimately illusory, but you still exerience the consequences of them in the conditionally real world until you escape rebirth by merger in God.
>>15065854
simply stating "I believe in this God which is not non-dual" doesn't do a single thing to refute non-dualism you moron
>>15066209
wrong, there is ethics in non-dualism

[Anonymous No.15066463]

>>15066247
Christian mythology doesnt refute anything, that's like me saying "When Rama killed the demon Ravanna that totally refuted dualism bro"

[Anonymous No.15066491]

>>15066455
> doesn't mean that consequences don't follow from your actions while you are still in the cycle of rebirth, does that clear up your confusion? Good acts and bad acts are ultimately illusory, but you still exerience the consequences of them in the conditionally real world until you escape rebirth by merger in God.
that makes no fucking sense. why would 'good' acts help you transcend good and evil bout 'bad' acts would further imprison you into illusion when you're saying that BOTH are illusory.

[Anonymous No.15066510]

I'm surprised by the lack of Muslims here, given how many of them are on /int/

[Anonymous No.15066534]

>>15063593
Nietzsche's approach to death and life is the one I cultivate, a similar worldview is present in the ethics of fascism in the discourses. It seems more courageous to bear suffering without expecting a reward in the after life and living life for its intensity.

[Anonymous No.15066541]

>>15066491
>that makes no fucking sense. why would 'good' acts help you transcend good and evil bout 'bad' acts would further imprison you into illusion when you're saying that BOTH are illusory.
Because when one acts in virtuous ways etc one attains purity of the heart and mind, which is necessary for spiritual realization/insight, which is itself necessary for the escape from rebirth by merging in God. One who does this goes beyond good and evil, but one has to first attain a state of profound goodness and cultivate virtues first in order that one's heart and intellect are pure enough and free enough from taints to have the ability to reach this spiritual realization, which is difficult to attain and which escapes the grasp of the dull, dim-witted, lustful, slovenly etc

[Anonymous No.15066549]

>>15066534
>Nietzsche's approach to death and life is the one I cultivate,
How though? Aren't you stuck being born a last men for eternity?

[Anonymous No.15066605]

>>15063593
As much as anyone can while living in a disgusting world of slaves to the technocapital demiurge. Mostly I read & try to make time to meditate and pray. I do try to also go to Church since I don't think it's good to be solitary.

What's with all the "Are you REALLY religious XD" shit in the catalogue? Yes fedoras, there are people who have yet to embrace Dawkins as their personal lord & saviour. Go figure.

[Anonymous No.15066637]

>>15066404
>Brainlet, the post
It sure would be nice if you could think a little bit once in awhile. How about trying to understand what I said? Oh wait you just want to shitpost. I see what you did there. Funny pic though.

[Anonymous No.15066655]

>>15066510
They occasionally try to come in here with their Discord or Qu'ran threads but they get ran out pretty quickly. They get tired of having to defend the required support of pedophilia in Islam.

[Anonymous No.15066695]

>>15066463
>mythology
It all happened though. And really, truly, not "illusorilly".

[Anonymous No.15066730]

Unity in God already implies that being against yourself is evil and wrong. Evil is antilife. it's the bottom of the barrel of that which is between non-existence and existence. Goodness in this world (which is somewhere between illusion and reality) is closer to the truth than blind evil is. The goodness of the Ultimate Reality is so good that both good and evil pale in comparison. But we are already in that reality otherwise what this is could not matter. But it does matter or it would not be, but evil is like the dregs that must be removed from the wine. Doing good is like a little candle that is lit. It gives light and it makes us understand the sun But the sun is so bright that the candle is made nearly worthless. Candle is still better than stumbling around in the dark hurting yourself.

[Anonymous No.15066746]

>>15066695
Truely, just as Rhea brought Dionysus back to life after he had been killed and eaten by the Titans

[Anonymous No.15066757]

>>15063966
Based, ortho by birth
I dont separate my spiritual practice and ordinary life ,effortlessly trying to remain in nondual awareness no matter what im doing
Also feeling great energy flowing from top to bottom of my spine currently feels quite pleasurable .
As far as occult i did solar/lunar initiations rituals for inner alchemy was pretty amazing , i still do rituals with angels and plan to finish enochian 48 keys system

>>15064082
based
>>15064374
the few ones within that systemthat are spiritually gifted often dont agree with it while the rest concern themselves with outer rituals instead of inner truth.
>>15064419
kek
>>15064680
brainlet take , dive deeper into practice
>>15064672
Absolutely based , if you dont dislodge position of assemblage point you cannot understand nondual teachings
>>15064710
based enough
>>15064891
baptized at birth
>>15065055
checked and divinely based , its is often near death that one truly see the truth for first time

[Anonymous No.15066777]

>>15066757
>its is often near death that one truly see the truth for first time
We await your quick death then

[Anonymous No.15066809]

>>15066232
good goy
>>15066247
asleep in matrix
>>15066284
>>15066209
This is just your ego retardation , nondualism is the highest moral good in its practice as you dissolve the self only god is left , your actions are guided by pure benevolent self that sees itself in everything that is. Christians only operate within group ego and hate those outside the group

[Anonymous No.15066814]

>>15066746
>illusory Rhea illusorilly brought illusory Dionysus back to illusory life (illusorily) after (illusory) he had illusorily been killed and illusorily eaten by the illusory Titans
the more advaita-validating belief, my based trans advaitin ascetic.

[Anonymous No.15066847]

>>15066534
You only suffer because of being separate from god

[Anonymous No.15066862]

>>15066541
This but also
When you detach from self to a degree you become more pure and good and it becomes spiraling loop one reinforces the other

[Anonymous No.15066888]

>>15066847
Christians don't suffer? Or most are still separated from God?

[Anonymous No.15066901]

>>15066847
Have you even read the book of Job?

[Anonymous No.15066913]

>>15066862
If there is no Self there is nobody who realizes the Unconditioned and it will be impossible to realize it