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Now the dust has settled.... was he right about limit experience, base materialism, the accursed share, Solar Anus....?

>> No.15063051

>>15062958
Reminder Bataille would be a sissy if he were alive in our time.

>> No.15063072

Bataille is a joke of a philosopher.

>> No.15063079

>>15063072
Nice argument bro

>>15062958
He’s pretty good, but most of his thought is essentially just an extension of freud’s beyond the pleasure principle. I do like the accursed share quite a bit, tho.

>> No.15063086

>>15063051
What kind? You didn't specify

>> No.15063127
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15063127

Yes.

>> No.15063628

>>15063127
Damm he cute. Is there some sort of Bataille chart?

>> No.15063659

>>15062958
erotism has some stuff in it about co-opted rebellion that is pretty prescient to our strange times were avowed social democrats are fighting for the global financial empire

>> No.15063769

>>15063628
For his fiction it is worthy going beyond Story of the Eye. Madame Edwarda and My Mother are his best erotic fictions imo. After that Blue of Noon is worth it as well. I wouldn't start with The Impossible (and L'Abbé C i haven't read).
For his theory, I'd recommend starting with "The Notion of Expenditure" and then The Accursed Share (Vol. 1). The collection Visions of Excess is also quite good, which collects a lot of his early essays (on base matter, fascism, Acéphale). His Summa Atheologica (Inner Experience, Guilty, On Nietzsche) is more difficult, given that it takes a more fragmentary, diaristic form, though also one of the more rewarding.

>> No.15063772

>>15062958
fuck this Stalinist piece of shit

>> No.15063996

>>15063772
Is there more Trotskyist forms of eroticism?

>> No.15064505

>>15062958
>therefore, socialism
not really tho

>> No.15064595

>>15063769
based post
I'd add for fiction The Dead Man and Solar Anus. Didn't care much for Blue of Noon

>> No.15064632

My Mother starts out really well but drops off pretty hard once the mommy is actually gone and Hansi takes her place.
I guess Bat eye felt the same since he didn't finish the story. Up to that point its pretty great though.

>> No.15064732

>>15063769
In what work does he deal/explain the concept of limit experience?

>> No.15064768

bataille like any other existentialist is a writer for children.

>> No.15065341

>>15064732
I might be wrong, but I have the feeling that - while it might run through the whole of his work - Bataille doesn't use the term "limit-experience" all too much, at least not as a key word that he defines somewhere. I suspect it's more the influence of Foucault, in his "Preface to Transgression" (and Blanchot in The Infinite Conversation) that have given importance to this term as a key concept in Bataille's oeuvre.

>> No.15065583

>>15065341
That clears some things up. Thanks, Anon.

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>>15062958
this guy literally made a book where in the opening page he talks about being pissed on and pissing on people for some sick sexual fetish. This man is sick, and not in a good way at all.

>>15063051
>Reminder Bataille would be a sissy if he were alive in our time.
Based.

>> No.15065742

>>15063086
Any kind. If you read about sissy hypno, the whole purpose is to create a dissociative disorder, to dissolve the ego through "mindbreak" or all-consuming lust/desire. They also explicitly want to "lower your IQ", with purported effects of totally forgetting what happened, preferably near a pack of men to abuse your body while in trance.
If you like Bataile, you either haven't realized that the limit experiences he speaks of are dependent on the fetish economy OR you are totally fine with sissy hypno.
And if "postmodernism" is to be viewed as a coherent concept, Bataille is to be viewed as its father. You could argue sissy hypno is currently synonymous with postmodern sexuality.