This is what non-duality actually teaches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KXidr0z1RY Why does it make people not only so confused but also spiritually arrogant?

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Anonymous Tue Apr 7 22:19:27 2020 No.15045314 [Reply] [Original]

This is what non-duality actually teaches:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KXidr0z1RY

Why does it make people not only so confused but also spiritually arrogant?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 04:08:54 2020 No.15046797 was Guenon just LARPing?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 04:24:12 2020 No.15046834 >>15045314 >Comments are disabled >Uploader is a literally who new age guru Yeah, I'm gonna say charlatan/10.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 04:25:58 2020 No.15046836 File: 125 KB, 1280x720, 1560411203098.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15046834 >charlatan advaitins usually are

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 04:31:46 2020 No.15046852 >>15046836 You're absolutely right. What you should do is learn Hindi and Sanskrit, fly to India, and then find a guru at the Sringeri Sharada Peetham monastery to teach you. I am dead serious.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 04:44:21 2020 No.15046887 They are both right obviously but that part from 7:05 til 7:28 feels powerful

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 04:44:23 2020 No.15046888 >>15046852 too late dikshitar, i've already booked flights to Bodhgaya

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 04:49:29 2020 No.15046908 What does him saying the tree is beautiful at the end mean?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 04:59:39 2020 No.15046931 >>15046908 He didn't say it was a beautiful tree.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:15:15 2020 No.15047170 File: 232 KB, 604x453, shankara2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15045314 fucking based , we need radical non- duality and execute any hylic or dualist cuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:26:25 2020 No.15047203 >>15046908 >him saying No one said anything anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:28:07 2020 No.15047212 >>15046931 >>15047203 fuck you guys

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:31:36 2020 No.15047225 >>15047170 >we >implying 'we' >need >implying 'needs' Illusory hylicism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:32:45 2020 No.15047229 >>15045314 so non-duality is just basic bitch western nominalism + nihilism + skepticism

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:34:24 2020 No.15047240 >>15047212 >fuck you guys There's no one to fuck and no one to be fucked.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:37:38 2020 No.15047255 >>15047229 yep basically just Descartes, but replace his "Cogito" with "Consciousness is, therefore I am God" lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:45:58 2020 No.15047291 >>15047225 Only applies to conditional reality hylic

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:48:43 2020 No.15047308 >>15047229 truth of reality confirmed in spiritual experience everything rest is midwit pseudry

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:52:48 2020 No.15047323 File: 93 KB, 512x348, unnamed hippies.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15047308 >the truth is felt out bro...pure feels lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 06:54:45 2020 No.15047331 >>15045314 >Can I just say there is a beautiful tree? Am I allowed to say it? I mean, come on, its beautiful, don't you think it is? >No. There is nobody here who thinks. Ain't that the fuckin truth lmao

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 07:11:55 2020 No.15047417

>>15047331
no it's not because it's totally incoherent and eats itself. The tree really is beautiful because it partakes of the form of beauty, and sings to the genius of God himself.

any system of thought that tries to collapse all distinctions will inevitably lead to incoherence and collapse all its own claims and arguments as well. It should remain utterly silent. But for some reason non-dualists are really loud and don't even understand the implications of their own presuppositions

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 07:19:40 2020 No.15047452 File: 71 KB, 750x1000, brainlet5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15047323 >if i think rly hard what others maybe i will know it too! kek western mind cucking itself into submission Only intuition can know truth cope contemplationcel

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 08:10:51 2020 No.15047648 File: 280 KB, 2048x1421, hylics.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15047452

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 08:21:36 2020 No.15047679
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>>15047648
Plato thought that through contemplation, the soul may ascend to knowledge of the Form of the Good or other divine Forms.[3] Plotinus as a (neo)Platonic philosopher also expressed contemplation as the most critical of components for one to reach henosis. To Plotinus the highest contemplation was to experience the vision of God, the Monad or the One

Btfo ,nothing personal kiddo

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 08:33:31 2020 No.15047709 >>15047648 Perfectly based

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 08:37:22 2020 No.15047724 Non dualists keep BTFOing themselves

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 08:39:44 2020 No.15047735 >true reality >conditional reality Uhh that's 2, doc

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 09:02:27 2020 No.15047815 >>15047679 This, western philosophy eats only breadcrumbs from upanishads

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 09:11:39 2020 No.15047856

>>15047679
the fact you are using this to support your position is pretty funny,

1, considering that Plotinus saw himself as merely working within the framework Plato created, Plato was his master, and he called himself a platonist.
2. Plotinus' highest 'vision' was only experienced 4 times, as a result of his careful contemplation and analysis of the Forms/Monad/Platonism. Experience was a happy side-effect, intellectual contemplation was the catalyst and meat of his practice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 09:13:12 2020 No.15047868 >>15047255 OH NO NO NO NO

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 09:49:22 2020 No.15048087

non-dualism is schizo apophaticism. how many non dualists are actually there on lit? 3-5. i can personally identify two larpers

>>15047308
>truth of reality confirmed in spiritual experience
duuuude i just personally FELT aware that the self is not personal

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 09:49:54 2020 No.15048091 >>15047417 >no it's not please don't make me explain the joke to you

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 09:56:26 2020 No.15048134
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>>15047856
>intellectual contemplation
kek nice oxymoron anon it was state void of thought read more on henosis
The problem with thought is you can only know truth as thought and not as a reality . Another concept in your mind is no more useful then an ikea sofa.
thinking about the gym but never working out = no actual truth gains
Until you really know yourself beyond the body until that is true for you (not as a thought )you cannot understand higher truths .
Noone could ever think themselves into god since the mind is in illusion that prevents one from connecting to god, obvious paradox.
>I didnt make the rules thats just how it be.

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 09:57:47 2020 No.15048140

>>15048134
remember this is the

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shitposter who larps as enlightened and shills non dualism

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 09:57:59 2020 No.15048141

Non-duality is in everything. Even things as seemingly disparate as Christianity and post-modernism end up converging in non-duality. Hopefully, it's obvious that post-modernism is non-dual, and for Christianity, why did you think knowledge of good and evil is a sin? Good and evil are both aspects of the one, and seeing them as separate is a delusion.

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 10:01:57 2020 No.15048158
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>>15048087
It is not an emotion its completely dislodging ones assemblage point in experience and after the experience the seat of awareness is not in mind nor body but as witnessing awareness which cannot be pointed to.
But how do i explain this to a newfag soul?
Goodluck in next life time anon perhaps it will resonate more then.

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 10:03:53 2020 No.15048165

>>15048141
why do you even bother shilling for your shitty satanic beliefs if they are true? what difference does it make? do you want to convince yourself? if nondualism is true everything said has equally the same weight and nothing has actual value
>noo but im aware and ure not
yeah sure thing

fruit from that tree never meant actual knowledge. go to theology 101

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 10:04:42 2020 No.15048170 >>15047229 Advaita non-dualism is not nihilism because it admits the reality of consciousness and God

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 10:05:09 2020 No.15048173 >>15048158 it's not divine intuition. you are deluded

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 10:09:49 2020 No.15048205
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>>15048140
>btfoed you christcuckery in several thread
>rent free
Go read https://www2.uned.es/dpto-hdi/History%20of%20Non-dual%20Meditation%20Methods.pdf

After that i have an opening position for you as an acolyte
>>15048173
The trapped cannot see anything except shadows nor can they think their way out of the cave.

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 10:12:30 2020 No.15048221

>>15048165
It entertains me. Enlightenment is a spectrum, not a binary. Were I more enlightened, I wouldn't even bother speaking, much less posting here.

Happiness belongs to no one but that supremely lazy man for whom even opening and closing his eyes is a bother.

> Satanic

Leading a sense-entangled life is what's Satanic. Your emotions and desires are demons.

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 10:13:38 2020 No.15048229

>>15048165
>if nondualism is true everything said has equally the same weight
wrong dumbass
>>15048140
yup im thinking he's based
>>15047735
Advaita admits that in enlightenment one realizes that the 'conditional reality' was unreal and not a reality, there is only one reality that remains and that is the only reality now, but the conditional reality of appearances is called the conditional one because of how we seem to experience it until enlightenment despite it being false
>>15048087
>non-dualism is schizo apophaticism
muh buzzwords, you really are seething over non-dualism, I bet you made this thread and the other one attacking it too

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 10:15:59 2020 No.15048252 >>15048229 prove the conditional reality isn't real right now you schizo larper i didnt make this i just woke up

Keynes Wed Apr 8 10:16:03 2020 No.15048253
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>>15048134
Oh my fucking god, just go fuck yourself, you big piece of shit. I will murder you with my own two hands, I'm getting really tired of this bullshit, I'm gonna have a fucking fit and I'll fucking murder you while I'm at it. God fucking damnit, I'm angry, I'm so fucking angry. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 10:31:01 2020 No.15048353
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>>15048253
But anon your anger is not real its a transient projection ask yourself who is feeling that anger?Then ask yourself who is asking .
Your mind will open in great enlightenment

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 10:36:36 2020 No.15048401 >>15048253 Listen to this guy. >>15048353 Also, this question might prove fruitful: how do you know you're feeling anger?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 10:55:17 2020 No.15048535 what's the difference between non duality and monism?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 10:59:52 2020 No.15048571 >>15048535 none besides the fact one is schizo apophaticism and the other makes a positive affirmation. they are essentially the same

Anonymous Wed Apr 8 11:02:05 2020 No.15048583

>>15048535
Monism says there is a single substance making up all of existence, whether fire, water, ether, atoms, etc. Advaita non-dualism says that God is the true reality underlying appearances, but denies that God is a substance and instead says that God is formless awareness. Also in Advaita non-dualism God using his power of maya creates (illusory) elements such as fire, air etc which are unconcious and not God.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 11:32:00 2020 No.15048797 Monism. More like: Moronism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 11:43:43 2020 No.15048908 >>15048797 Christianity is prelest

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 13:33:44 2020 No.15049686 >>15046836 I want to like Indian philosophy/spirituality but their shit writing style, the guru model, cultural gaudiness and Indian people themselves make it really hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 13:39:42 2020 No.15049726 File: 120 KB, 576x596, actualwizard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15049686 Then why do you want to like it? Fashion sense?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 13:49:32 2020 No.15049816 File: 120 KB, 720x540, 1585166874237.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15045314 Damn... that new Animal Crossing got deep...

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 13:53:36 2020 No.15049852 >>15049686 the verses of the scriptures can be opaque but some of the commentarial writings and other standalone philosophial texts from the Medieval era are very lucidly written, they have wonderful medieval poetry too

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 8 14:43:58 2020 No.15050198 >>15049726 because the metaphysics make more sense to me than big sky daddy and yes also fashion sense

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