/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.15040286]

It just hit me mid-way through some philosophy reading that there is literally no point to reading philosophy. Why the fuck am I wasting my time reading about what others think?

[Anonymous No.15040352]

It's good that you've come to this realization early. A lot of people spend most of their lives studying this shit, and when they finally come to the same realization, it's already too late.
Read some philosophy of others to get the flavour and for the ability to namedrop to get some pussy, and focus on empirically experiencing what life has to offer. For that is the only way to wisdom.

[Anonymous No.15040368]

>>15040286
Intellectual cleanliness is not an inborn trait. It is learned. They are better thinkers than you are, because they have read more than you have.

[Anonymous No.15040406]

Then read Roger Bacon.

The idea of throwing away everything that is popular within a nerdy subculture is always attractive to angry nerds, or angry former nerds, who want to embody all that the other people in these other nerds lives have shit on them for, just to tangentially feel cool.

But lets be honest, if you read Roger Bacon you'd realize you're making some major cardinal error here. You shouldn't even be close to thinking about throwing away the entirety of philosophy, because that mentality, that attitude is not a new one. It has existed since the dawn of man. The ancient sophists were not masters in philosophy, at least not the kind Plato or Aristotle knew of, they shunned that and stuck with their 'science' of analyzing the world. Obviously, they were wrong. Much like how Roger Bacon says many of the religious during his time were wrong not to study philosophy like Aristotle.

Throughout the ages, the more important parts of philosophy get glossed over and forgotten, and no one is around to help people see that it shouldn't be. I see this mentality on 4chan of all places, where everyone wants to read and discuss Nietzsche or Marx, but not enough want to discuss Aristotle's Topics or Euclid's Elements. It's a dime in a dozen.

If you want to succeed in this world, I am telling you: stop associating yourself with a clique or culture, you are not part of one, and you shouldn't want to be. This life is more enjoyable when you are someone unique anyway, someone whom others respect for their pursuance of knowledge and truth.

:3

[Anonymous No.15040410]

>>15040286
To think critically about the life you live. To articulate your thoughts against others in such a way that the message is understood on their level. To provide enjoyment in mental exercise.

[Anonymous No.15040420]

>>15040368
Being better-read does not make one a clearer or a better thinker. You would think such a basic fact would be well-known by now.

[Anonymous No.15040427]

what's the point of reading anything it's way easier to sit home smoke weed masturbate and play video games

[Anonymous No.15040431]

>>15040286
>It just hit me mid-way through some philosophy reading that there is literally no point to reading philosophy. Why the fuck am I wasting my time reading about what others think?
You say this because you don't know enough philosophy.

[Anonymous No.15040434]

>>15040352
>empirically experiencing
read more philosophy, dummy

[Anonymous No.15040446]

>>15040434
Do you deny the distinction between empirical and idealistic experience? If so, why?

[Anonymous No.15040465]

>>15040420
>Being better-read does not make one a clearer or a better thinker.
It absolutely does and a Twitter screencap is a fucking joke of an argument.

[Anonymous No.15040490]

>>15040465
The image was unrelated lol. Sometimes I just add images to my posts. Don't read too much into it.
>It absolutely does
Do you have any evidence for this claim?

[Anonymous No.15040519]

>>15040490
You can't be a good thinker if you don't read because our standard of "good thinking" has increased as more has been written over time. Reading a lot isn't all it takes, but it's still a prerequisite. Imagine trusting anyone's views on philosophy, art, political theory, or the sciences if they haven't actually read the masters of their fields.

[Anonymous No.15040549]

>>15040406
Good post sir

[Anonymous No.15040570]

>>15040519
I think it's not how much you read that matters, but the kinds of books you read. Reading maths will probably make you a better thinker.
Reading Hegel, Lacan, Freud will make you stupid. That said, I still think most of the ability to think clearly is innate and does't come from reading.

[Anonymous No.15040687]

>>15040570
Freud was the most interesting thinker I have read. Of all the books I have read I would easily say Freud has been the most influential.

[Anonymous No.15040695]

>>15040687
Edward Bernays changed the world after reading Freud.

[Anonymous No.15040712]

>>15040687
>Of all the books I have read I would easily say Freud has been the most influential
I really hope you're joking.

[Anonymous No.15040720]

>>15040286
Same goes for all non fiction. Either stop reading entirely or read purely for entertainment.

[Anonymous No.15040746]

>>15040712
If you don't understand that freud has been the most influential philosopher of the 20th century, they you are fooling yourself.

[Anonymous No.15040786]

>>15040286
Good. Stop reading philosophy. Now stay away from philosophy threads and discussions too.

[Anonymous No.15040882]

>Frogpost/meme Picture
>"Philosophy/Literature is Pointless!"
These threads should be deleted. We've had 10,000 of them recycling the same shitty arguments.

[Anonymous No.15040907]

>>15040286
I only use philosophy as reference material, if you're not going to utilize it, don't bother

[Anonymous No.15040941]

>>15040746
>influential
Among midwits who cannot think clearly, like yourself.

[Anonymous No.15040946]

>>15040286
That's called your inner bitch arising to the difficulty of reading philosophy rather than talking about it on the internet or a similar medium

[Anonymous No.15040957]

>>15040570
>reading maths
smoothest of brains here

[Anonymous No.15040971]

>>15040957
Huh?

[Anonymous No.15040989]

>>15040941
>Freud influences Edward Bernays
>Edward Bernays creates consumer culture and PR
>Consumer culture creates commodified individualism
> commodified individualism creates neoliberalism

How do you not see this?

[Anonymous No.15041040]

>>15040989
This.

[Anonymous No.15041078]

>>15040286
>Why the fuck am I wasting my time reading about what others think?
On the off chance that some day people will waste time reading about what you think

[Anonymous No.15041089]

>>15040549
>Good post sir
This place is literally becoming reddit.

[Anonymous No.15041092]

>>15041089
>becoming

[Anonymous No.15041114]

If yer talking Continental then I can agree for the most part, even history as a subject of study should be taken with a grain of salt for the existence of omissum ex historiae policies in society throughout all of history, and history itself is maybe the most legitimate aspect of Continental philosophy, which can largely be said to be driven by confirmation bias and thus is often nothing more than self-aggrandizing ministrations.

If yer talking Analytical then in that case I strongly disagree, it's important to introduce oneself with self-propagating fundaments if these adhere to the latuswork of comprehending the relativisms and inherent congruencies of an existence expressing itself through consistent physical properties.

Analytical philosophy > Continental philosophy (as if that should ever be up for debate)

Just my two cents

[Anonymous No.15041132]

>>15040286
Yup, you got it. Generally it's a huge waste of time because you need to find your own way. You have to ask yourself, why are you reading philosophy? If you haven't already found your own path, then there is very little you will be able to get out of reading philosophy. If you already have found your own path, and you have some VERY specific questions, then perhaps you can benefit from reading philosophy. But most people read philosophy because they want to find meaning, purpose, "spirituality", which you won't find from philosophy at all. And if you THINK you found this from reading philosophy... I got bad news for you...

[Anonymous No.15041179]

>>15041132
I am not experienced in reading philosophy and have no ambition to become so, but I do feel that reading a bit of philosophy is a good way to create some structure for you to think in. A book like The Nicomachean Ethics really help me think with more structure about my behaviour in social situations, for example, though nothing Aristotle says really is revolutionary.

[Anonymous No.15041182]

>>15041114
Excellent post, but I am still going to make fun of you for typing 'latuswork'.

[Anonymous No.15041223]

>>15041182

I didn't think I was making it up and autocorrect let me get away with it, autocorrect won't even let me do real and common words half the time. Is latuswork a cringe word now boys?

[Anonymous No.15041289]

Philosophy isn't a hobby, it's a science. "Wisdom" has no bearing if you don't mean to apply it to further it. Contemporary debates on correlationism are simultaneously a justification for why philosophy is needed, and also prove yet again how philosophical traditions can skew erroneously against itself.
There is something to gain in reading philosophy casually, as there is in reading biology or astronomy in your spare time, but if you think the exercise of 'self-aggrandizing metaphysical systems' is just a fun exercise, of course it will feel like the aims of philosophy are whimsical and arbitrary.

To digress back to my earlier points, much of the advances made in continental philosophy allowed many social sciences to develop better hermeneutic methods in sociology, history, psychology, anthropology, political science and economics. It is not a wasted exercise, but has real bearing in a way we might take for granted.

[Anonymous No.15041308]

>>15041289
I'm not as versed in analytic, but I would imagine the phil. of logic, of mathematics, etc. have equally made great contributions. isn't Godel critically acclaimed among all throngs of mathematicians?

[Anonymous No.15041313]

OP is the first pseud to ever mistake not feeling like reading right now or I didn't like that bit with I supercede the entire pantheon of human philosophy

[Anonymous No.15041430]

>>15041114
>yer

[Anonymous No.15041467]

>>15041430

Too fuccin bad kid

[Anonymous No.15041499]

>>15041114
Analytic philosophy is not philosophy.

[Anonymous No.15041777]

>>15041289
>>15041499

Oh great the continentalists are here, let me bust out the fine china

[Anonymous No.15041784]

>>15040368
Why’d this make me laugh hard

[Anonymous No.15041789]

Philosophy is a means to the end of comedy. No one has done it right since Socrates

[Anonymous No.15041922]

>>15040286
You are aware that philosophy is considered a higher art than literature, right? You can dismiss philosophy all you like but realize that people are usually pretty bad at the kinds of subjects that they dismiss so readily. I imagine that you r thoughts aren't the most ordered.

[Anonymous No.15042131]

>>15040746
>>15040687
>>15040989
not him but, influential to the world doesn't mean he was right in any way.

[Anonymous No.15042153]

>>15040352
Literally no women on this planet cares about whether a guy reads and what he reads

[Anonymous No.15042192]

>>15041089
It was a good post though.

[Anonymous No.15042233]

>>15041922
>considered
by whom?

[Anonymous No.15042262]

>>15042153
I got professor cunny during undergrad since I knew my shit

[Anonymous No.15042760]

>>15041922
Are you aware that it is just midwit hobby for pseuds, there is a threshold from where it stops being useful and one must focus on practical application to evolve further where reading cannot help.

[Anonymous No.15042761]

>>15042131
what a "clear" thought. how did you get to this level?

[Anonymous No.15042775]

>>15041922
>philosophy is considered a higher art than literature
sometimes I forget who the people calling me a pseud really are
>>15042760
>midwit hobby for pseuds
>there is a threshold where it stops being useful
clearly you haven't reached it

[Anonymous No.15042808]

>>15041114
>ministrations
>latuswork
>feeling the need to power rank schools of philosophy
extremely gay post

[Anonymous No.15042833]

>>15042775
Anon you're a retard if you're still stuck on such a paradigm
Many famous philosophers bring the truth to their stage of consciousness rather then rising to meet it .
It is infinitely more wise to raise oneself and know the truth for yourself .

[Anonymous No.15042859]

>>15042833
This is unintelligible. Post in your native language and I'll use google translate

[Anonymous No.15042934]

>>15040989
Edward Barnays is basically the grandfather of modern western pop culture, and he did it by applying Freud's ideas. Hell, Freud is famous with the public because Barnays published Freud's books in english and did a marketing campaign for the them.

[Anonymous No.15043020]

>>15040286
HOLY BASED

[Anonymous No.15043112]

>>15042859
confirmed retard, read guenon

[Anonymous No.15043123]

>>15040286
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