Is love real?

[Anonymous No.15031942]

Is there any literature on the existence or nonexistence of love. It doesn't have to be explicitly about the facts of love. It can be a poem that makes me believe in love or a article that persuades me that it is a mass hysteria. Feel free to give your own view on love.

[Anonymous No.15032010]

>>15031942
Western mind is cucked by analytical mind selfwill(ego) on steroids so no surprised they reduce love to brain chemistry meme.

Still the mind and open your heart and you will realize a whole new dimension of love a transcendental quality

[Anonymous No.15032018]

>>15031942
No. "Love" is an illusion. It's simply a chemical reaction one that you can get from eating fucking chocolate which is a better idea to do so you won't fuck up your life.

[Anonymous No.15032039]

>>15032018
Pleasure and love aren't the same thing.

[Anonymous No.15032041]

>>15031942
Love is when you care about someone more than yourself.
If you're willing to take a bullet for 'em, then that's love in my books.

Although, there seems to be this idea with modern women that their male lovers should sacrifice their lives but it's definitely not a popular idea for women to sacrifice their lives for their lovers. This is just taking advantage.

[Anonymous No.15032144]

you know it's real when the person you love dies

[Anonymous No.15032163]

>>15031942
Love is real but not with the romanticised bullshit we attach to it.

>Thus here, as in the case of all instinct, the truth assumes the form of an illusion, in order to act upon the will. It is a voluptuous illusion which leads the man to believe he will find a greater pleasure in the arms of a woman whose beauty appeals to him than in those of any other; or which indeed, exclusively directed to a single individual, firmly convinces him that the possession of her will ensure him excessive happiness. Therefore he imagines he is taking trouble and making sacrifices for his own pleasure, while he does so merely for the maintenance of the regular type of the species, or else a quite special individuality, which can only come from these parents, is to attain to existence... In accordance with the character of the matter which has been explained, every lover will experience a marvellous disillusion after the pleasure he has at last attained, and will wonder that what was so longingly desired accomplishes nothing more than every other sexual satisfaction; so that he does not see himself much benefited by it. That wish was related to all his other wishes as the species is related to the individual, thus as the infinite to the finite.

[Anonymous No.15032194]

>>15032018
All emotions can have a chemical basis but does that make them any less "real"? What you've put forward is not nuanced. See >>15032163.

[Anonymous No.15032221]

>>15031942
>Is love real?
Love IS real buckaroo. Let me show you...

[Anonymous No.15032258]

>>15031942
Its possible there may be nothing but love.

[Anonymous No.15032295]

>>15032258
>blu man

[Anonymous No.15032330]

Define 'love'.

[Anonymous No.15032411]

>>15032330
Real.

[Anonymous No.15032712]

The common understanding of love is that it is the amplification of an intentional object, namely "the beloved" in one's affections. This is only half of it, a piece, albeit an essential one, in a bigger process. Love is to be found in the creation of a shared reality, a small, mutually intertwined world that would not exist without that love. Lovers create a shared, personal drama, a web of inside jokes, memories, tacit understandings, a history that binds and defines their time together. It is more than simply mutually shared affection. It is the creation of a subjectively palpable world between the lovers, that holds them together and through which they perceive and interpret the wider world, access it and mold their choices around it.

[Anonymous No.15032719]

>>15032018
Cope

[Anonymous No.15032726]

>>15031942
Stoner by John Williams, and not just romantic love.
>In his extreme youth Stoner had thought of love as an absolute state of being to which, if one were lucky, one might find access; in his maturity he had decided it was the heaven of a false religion, toward which one ought to gaze with an amused disbelief, a gently familiar contempt, and an embarrassed nostalgia. Now in his middle age he began to know that it was neither a state of grace nor an illusion; he saw it as a human act of becoming, a condition that was invented and modified moment by moment and day by day, by the will and the intelligence and the heart.

[Anonymous No.15032746]

>>15032018
>Love" is an illusion. It's simply a chemical reaction
I guess the pain you feel when I gouge out your eyes is just chemical reactions and nerve reactions too, lmao, it’s an illusion!

[Anonymous No.15032811]

>>15032712
Bullshit. Love is often unrequited, I would say always unrequited actually. I would define love as the desire for an object that one can not possess. Even if I were to marry someone that I loved they still would escape my full possession, that's why I would be able to continue loving them. This isn't me commenting on the optimal structure of a relationship or anything (I don't think relationships should be fully based on love). But then again, what do I know. I'm just some virgin loser.

[Anonymous No.15032840]

>>15032221
copuld have just posted with no text

[Anonymous No.15033862]

>>15032726
>this book said the thing I think

[Anonymous No.15033895]

>>15032221
>DjTJZd_VsAAeQ7u.jpg
Based and reallifepilled.

[Anonymous No.15033914]

love is an emotion just like sadness or happiness are.
if you think emotions being just chemical reactions don't make them real, that's your problem.
us being alive is possible thanks to millions of chemical reactions in our cells. love, life or any emotion being a chemical reaction doesn't deligitimize it.
you're not dead, are you?

[Anonymous No.15034427]

>>15031942
Stendhal’s book, which I think is commonly translated as «On Love»

[Anonymous No.15034439]

>>15031942
Love is something you do.

[Anonymous No.15035394]

>>15032010
how to do this anon?

[Anonymous No.15035463]

I'm redpilled.

'True love' is a jewish Hollywood fiction made to emasculate the white man and make him easy to control. It's a way to get women power and subsequently have liberal beliefs (women feelings) pervade all aspects of society so that the white race can be eradicated, i.e. by lowering birth rates and importing immigrants.

In reality women cannot truly love, as they are too shallow to be truly ethical or loyal. true love exists only between white male nationalists fighting for a cause in the trenches.

[Anonymous No.15035523]

>>15031942
I believe love comes from within, in this way when one has the capacity of loving it's not the object of love that is responsible for the love of the lover, but the lover himself. So there's not object of love, there's only subject. This in my head at least means either you can choose who to love (creating a dissatisfaction in knowing that you project your love to one) or that you necessarily love everything and everyone.

Is this in any way an original thought?

[Anonymous No.15035627]

>>15031942
No. It's simply chemical response in the body then the mind makes an imaginary story allow with the sensation

[Anonymous No.15035732]

>>15035523
nay but a wise thought it is
>>15035394
Still the mind till its calm and sharp there are many tools find the one you like

Then you put your awareness on the heart and feel it open it up
You will begin to feel more love it is not romantic love but a divine love from the source,creator that fills your inner cup with meaning and joy.
Romantic love is just a weaker subgroup of this love and once you have the primary the secondary(romantic) is even more potent.

[Anonymous No.15035805]

>>15035627
what's the chemical reaction?

[Anonymous No.15035875]

>>15031942
True love is necessarily Platonic and exists readily in friends. To love someone is to consider them an extension of the self and to internalize all corollaries that might stem from that supposition. Love, as what was stated, most readily exists between friends and where friends are established for the sake of being friends rather than some other purpose (there is no good that is a good for an evil). Love becomes more difficult to ascertain as it becomes more physical; that is, the more one acts in a way that increases that probability of love being for something else (for example, pleasure) the less probable it is that you love for the sake of itself. It follows that, specifically when dealing with the opposite sex, love should be used with the utmost caution as most often one has merely tricked themselves into believeing pleasure plays no role.

[Anonymous No.15035899]

To add, since love requires knowledge of, the concept of love at first sight is niether love nor safe a priori

[Anonymous No.15035925]

>>15035732
>Still the mind till its calm and sharp there are many tools find the one you like
what else other than meditation?

[Anonymous No.15035964]

>>15032041
Women should be subservient to men and a man should lay down his life for his family. The end.

[Anonymous No.15035978]

>>15032163
This reminds me of whenever I read something pre-Disney Princess and marriage and love have these totally different qualities.

[Anonymous No.15036021]

Love is just like chemicals in your brain it’s all science you can look it up. It’s all just emotions like you love food or a certain drink you love a person it’s the same thing. Life is meaningless anyway there’s just nothing. Being born is such a curse I never want to have kids we are here just to get drunk and hang out in mass crowds a copy each other until we die. People who don’t do this are just not having enough sex. When you have lots of casual sex like I do and drink enough you can get through life and school work no problem. The job market is what’s diffixult but once you find a job you can make your parents proud and make a lot of money and have lots of cool stuff like a big house and fast cars and nice clothes. At least that’s what I think I feel like killing myself everyday but since everybody feels that way it’s normal. I think you just have to be as normal as possible and do what other people do, don’t try to “find yourself” or “be yourself”, if you do that people aren’t going to like you and won’t follow you on social media. It’s all science you can do research. Love is just a story we made up. All that matters is being like other people. Listen to popular music, make time to just spend hours on social media and see what other people are doing copy them until you aren’t thinking about killing yourself. Don’t do hard drugs but alcohol is a great way to socialize with people you don’t know and make connections. Once you know a lot of people you can choose like who to sleep with and get intimate with. Even though there’s no point to life and I hate myself and want to die every moment, at least others do to. Basically, you’re not alone, and you should take comfort in that. Because being alone is unbearable and the last thing you want to do is face your own thoughts because all it will do is bring up memories that you are a absolutely worthless piece of shit doing nothing.

[Anonymous No.15036131]

>>15032018
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[Anonymous No.15036271]

>>15035925
Too understand this better read this
https://realization.org/p/ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita.html

Slowly enjoy it and contemplate

[Anonymous No.15036373]

>>15032144
Or the cat. I think human love's bound up with intimations of mortality, with good habits, duties, friendship, loyalty, effort, and a myriad of little often burdensome things. There's no greater joy than the realization of its possession of you, or of you of it, however. It's ultimately a general thing that works its way into absolutely every corner of your life. Tell no one; hide it.

[Anonymous No.15037952]

>>15033914
I think it's more a state of body and mind because one feels lots of different emotions when in love from joy to pain; plus a few are even predominantly love-specific like longing and jealousy.

[Anonymous No.15037954]

>>15032163
Based Schoppiebro

[Anonymous No.15037960]

>>15035875
Good take. Heterosexual relationships and friendships must be distinguished. It is pretty much impossible for the former to be based on "love"

[Anonymous No.15037978]

>>15032411
romantic love is just chemicals, yes it is "real" for some time but then its gone and not real anymore

[Anonymous No.15037990]

Love is determined and propped up by nothing other than its subjects' mind-states. If a man believes he is in love, then he is indeed in love. If you convince him that he is instead merely infatuated, then he is infatuated.

[Anonymous No.15038000]

>>15035875
friendship too is overrated, people just don't get along anymore when interests don't match, platonic love my ass

[Anonymous No.15038013]

>>15036021
Maybe if you hadn't deluded yourself into believing that science is the only route to knowledge you wouldn't be so miserable

[Anonymous No.15038043]

>>15033862
yes

[Anonymous No.15039697]

[Anonymous No.15039720]

>>15037978
>real things aren't real if they aren't real some of the time
This is like the fever dream of a logic.

[Anonymous No.15039730]

>>15037990
>>15032018
Love isn't real

[Anonymous No.15039787]

>>15039730
Like God love doesn't have to be 'real' but lies are real.

[Anonymous No.15039794]

>>15031942
Love is the only real thing, colour isn’t

[Anonymous No.15039810]

>>15039794
>colour isn't
and it's all the better for it
Totally down with the visual dialectic

[Anonymous No.15040243]

>>15032712
This is exactly what I think the love is too

[Anonymous No.15040678]

Modernity has killed real love, and the fact that you are even asking that question just shows how fucking destructive our culture has become. The fact that everything has to be so insincere and ironic nowadays makes true love incredibly difficult to accomplish and maintain, and it makes me sick.

Real love comes from being so intimate with a person that you are able to just *be* around them.
It means that you spend time with someone whilst expecting nothing back; just the joy of having them around you is enough.
It's wanting nothing but happiness for someone, even if it at the expense of your own.
It's being accepting of someone's vulnerabilities, and them being accepting of yours.

This doesn't just happen in romantic relationships - this can happen in friendships too.

Love is a beautiful gift from God. Read Song of Songs, nihilistic fags. Also read Dostoyevsky.

[Anonymous No.15040715]

>>15032018
Gay faggot

[Anonymous No.15040826]

>>15031942

> Then said Almitra, Speak to us of Love.
> And he raised his head and looked upon the people, and there fell a stillness upon them. And with a great voice he said:
> When love beckons to you, follow him,
> Though his ways are hard and steep.
> And when his wings enfold you yield to him,
> Though the sword hidden among his pinions may wound you.
> And when he speaks to you believe in him,
> Though his voice may shatter your dreams as the north wind lays waste the garden.

> For even as love crowns you so shall he crucify you. Even as he is for your growth so he is for your pruning.
> Even as he ascends to your height and caresses your tenderest branches that quiver in the sun,
> So shall he descend to your roots and shake them in their clinging to the earth
> ~
> Like sheaves of corn he gathers you unto himself.
> He threshes you to make you naked.
> He sifts you to free you from your husks.
> He grinds you to whiteness.
> He kneads you until you are pliant;
> And then he assigns you to his sacred fire, that you may become sacred bread for God's sacred feast.

> All these things shall love do unto you that you may know the secrets of your heart, and in that knowledge become a fragment of life's heart.

> But if in your fear you would seek only love's peace and love's pleasure,
> Then it is better for you that you cover your nakedness and pass out of love's threshing-floor,
> Into the seasonless world where you shall laugh, but not all of your laughter, and weep, but not all of your tears.

[Anonymous No.15040829]

>>15039794
But color is

[Anonymous No.15041482]

>>15031942
erich fromm's "the art of loving" is a based and trad take from a frankfurt school guy, short read, recommend it

[Anonymous No.15041540]

>>15040678
Nice post. Since social trends seem to be cyclical do you think that the romantic view of love will make a return? Or are we too nihilistic/materialist?

[Anonymous No.15041860]

>>15041540
I think it's possible that it will make a return, since more and more people are starting to wake up to the dangers of modernity. There is more nihilism in the world, but there are more people rising up to fight it, so not all hope is lost. You've just got to remain optimistic, and practice what you preach. Being an authentic person is a great place to start; be kind and honest to people around you. Lead by example.

[Anonymous No.15041961]

>>15032018

[Anonymous No.15042248]

ballgags make me coom

[Anonymous No.15042346]

>>15032018
This is such a fucking bugman thing to write

[Anonymous No.15042495]

Love in the sense of mutual expedience, that is superimposed onto love proper and masquerades as it, is indeed not real.

[Anonymous No.15042931]

it is natural and real but not for one such as you desu

[Anonymous No.15043249]

>>15036131
Such a bullshit meme

[Anonymous No.15043281]

>>15035732
that's just increasing certain types of brain activity, bruh

[Anonymous No.15043318]

>>15043249
Aha no sir

[Anonymous No.15043483]

"Love is merely a madness and, I tell you, deserves as well a dark house and a whip as madmen do, and the reason why they are not so punished and cured is that the lunacy is so ordinary that the whippers are in love, too."

[Anonymous No.15043666]

>>15031942
love is when u tryna git a bitch pregnant

[Anonymous No.15043757]

>>15043666
damn nigga u spittin lmao

[Anonymous No.15043769]

>>15043666
>>15043757
that's lust.

[Anonymous No.15043822]

Love is natural and real

But not for you, my love

Not tonight, my love

[Anonymous No.15043949]

>>15043769
nigga what the FUCK is that get some pussy

[Anonymous No.15043961]

>>15042931
>>15043822

[Anonymous No.15044182]

>>15042346
No its not you soiboy bitch

[Anonymous No.15044251]

>>15043249
the meme isn’t real, it’s only chemicals in your brain.

[Anonymous No.15045243]

>>15043249

[Anonymous No.15046783]

>>15032712
This has been my experience

[Anonymous No.15046826]

>>15043769
erotic love is no more than lust, my man

[Anonymous No.15046830]

>>15043949
based

[Anonymous No.15046866]

>>15045243
Thanks anon. I’m gonna sound dumb but I didn’t know what dualism was until I read this