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Post 'em

>> No.14999821

>>14999487
Just read List or whatever that Korean guy's name is

>> No.14999827

>>14999784
>ugh why bother with anything
I'm telling you bro, this is coombrain talking.

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>>14999487

>> No.14999873

>>14999830
seething

>> No.15000100

>>14999487
Free trade is usually better for both parties, OP. Haven't you ever heard of comparative advantage? Autarky is for the birds.

>> No.15000132

>>15000100
Remember that Marx supported free trade.

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>>14999830
how are capital cucks still this persistent in 2020? I dont get it? What do you believe in? From both the right and left capitalism swoops and ass fucks every single bit of culture and humanity possible. Who are you?

>> No.15000155

>>14999830
Keynes was a mercantilist

>> No.15000165

>>14999830
Fair trade
With emphasis on local trade and industry.
The trouble of course is in the profit and competitive nature of this sociopathic system.

Example. Today governors are BIDDING for medical devices to help this pandemic.
Sickening.

>> No.15000214

>>15000165
You eventually get into a tit for tat trade war that way, though. Remember anon, tariffs are just a regressive tax. Also, never forget that Smoot-Hawley dragged us into the Great Depression.

>> No.15000227

>>15000214
That’s why we do away with accumulative currency, anon. I’m talking about full transformation of a broken stupid ass system

>> No.15000236

>>15000100
>Yeah bro just completely specialize in one thing, don't diversify your economy or anything

>> No.15000242

>>15000214
>Smoot-Hawley dragged us into the Great Depression

This is retarded and dumb and not even people like Milton Freidman believed it.

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>>15000214
>100 years and capitalists still think that crashes are just minor bugs in their system that can be ironed out, and not a feature essential to it

>> No.15000261

>>14999487
why does anyone have a fixed ideological position? can't they recognize that the sort of government that works is completely dependent on cultural and environmental factors?

>> No.15000267

>>15000257
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sometimes a market correction is necessary.

>> No.15000268

Confessions of an Economic Hitman
Seventeen Contradictions and the End of Capitalism
Globalization and Its Discontents

>> No.15000272

>>15000214
Tariffs are an investment in future productivity. You should be building productive skills and industry in your own country, not exporting your capacities abroad for slave labor.

>> No.15000274

>>15000257
Only the little chumps. The big boys know it’s a time for a cash-grab

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>>15000267
I hope you’re joking

>> No.15000287

>>15000272
And when the tariffs drive up prices? Then what?

>> No.15000337

>>15000287
Then it has one of the desired effects of encouraging people to buy domestically made products.

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>>15000279
Daily reminded that Stark Trek is S P A C E C O M M U N I S M

>> No.15000347

>>15000287
There will better jobs available thanks to the repatriation of industry. The laboring class moves up the value chain. Greater purchasing power negates higher prices. And really, if your national economic strategy is devoted solely to lowering prices for consumer goods, you're doing it all wrong.

>> No.15000350

>>15000337
But then your domestically made products go up in price too. Do you really want to pay five grand for an iPhone?

>> No.15000360

unironically Kapital

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>>14999268
No idea, but pruning threads with prurient OP pics wouldl be a good start

>> No.15000490

>>15000350
Don't be silly desu, price of goods has far less to do with wages paid to workers and regulations and far more with rate of production and capacity utilization and organization along with ensuring that monopolies don't form. Thats why Ford was able to produce the first affordable cars while manufacturing domestically and paying his workers high wages (for the time). He used mass production and efficient manufacturing techniques which made all the difference. And companies are more than capable of adapting to new situations and using economies of scale to keep prices low. Just look at domestically made American steel its 100 dollars cheaper than it was before tariffs were implemented. Anybody who says "duh iphone will cost 5 thousandz of dollarz if its made here" is a smoothbrain

There might be some increases but domestic manufacturing jobs will pay higher wages than those in the service economy and chink shit is trash quality compared to American (or European) manufacturing so people will be getting better quality products and there won't be any ridiculously high increases in price as you're suggesting. And with higher wages, people will be better able to pay for shit they actually need like healthcare or housing rather than a new flatscreen. The US was THE protectionist economy from the 1790s to the 1960's anon and became the largest manufacturer and largest economy in the world by the 1890s. A position it didn't give up until 2010, a decade after China was let into the WTO and PNTR was passed. All the East Asian Tigers have used similar protectionist and developmentalist policies that the US used desu, China is basically a mercantilist country and has had a meteoric economic rise.

>> No.15000496

Industrial Society and It's Future

>> No.15000500

>>15000350
also you infected me you fucking faggot

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>>14999487

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Muggleborns are the result of wizards having sex with muggles and then using that one memory erasure spell to hide their tracks. You cannot disprove this.

There's even precedent for this in the books, given that Voldemort's mother brainwashed her crush into marrying her with a date rape potion. The average wizard views muggles as cattle and is perfectly capable of abusing them without repercussions, so how uncommon can it be?

>> No.15000679

>>15000490
>He used mass production and efficient manufacturing techniques which made all the difference.

And what happens when those firms realize they can automate enough of the jobs from your grandpa's era and still be as efficient? You're fetishizing a labor landscape from yesteryear that no longer exists.

And when have Americans ever chosen the option of paying more? Or forgoing paying for stupid shit they don't need to pay for healthcare?

>> No.15001038

>>15000679
Automation is not as prevalent as people believe desu and even then countries with the highest robot densities like South Korea have higher levels of employment in the industrial sector than the US does.

And thanks to the work of Oren Cass we know that automation is not the boogeyman we like to make it out to be or the convenient talking point free traders and neolibs want it to be.

https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/putting-dynamism-in-its-place

Having a robust manufacturing sector, even if it does have a high degree of automation, is preferable to being de-industrialized. And look at some of the most advanced (and automated) factories in the world, like the Tesla gigfactories. The one in Reno alone employs 7000 people at the factory and as a result of the factory being based in Nevada a resulting other 6000 jobs related to it in Reno and 10,000 statewide. The article I linked explains this effect.
Most Americans don't choose what products their retailers put out. Do you have any sway over where your local grocery or box stores source their products from? And the manufacturing and labor landscape exists still in Western European countries like Germany or some of the East Asian Tigers like Taiwan, SK or Japan anon. I'm sure most people are capable of making rational decisions with their finances notions of a wasteful society at the indvidual level are overblown.

>> No.15001056

>we are living in the final stage of capitalism, it's only a matter of day until the entire rotten system falls apart
t. increasingly nervous commie for the 137th year in a row

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>>15001056
It’s clearly the latter stages. The oligarchy are taking us down an unsustainable course, and something has got to give.
You’re probably unaware of the wildcats happening right now. Ha.

>> No.15001499

>>15001348
t. millenarian cultist

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>>15001499

>> No.15001520

>>15001506
put your trip back on whore

>> No.15001584

>>14999487
Outline of Sanity

>> No.15002181

>>15000132
Marx didn't support freedom of selling and buying but a complete abolition of selling and buying.

>> No.15003039

>>15001506
I'm going to blast you with coom!

>> No.15003046

>>14999830
I voted for Bernie Sanders and Trump.

>> No.15003104

>>15003046
Based Sanders-Trump voter.

>> No.15003119

>>15000343
No wounded they are so Fey and have a government entirely dependent on dues ex machine praxis.

>> No.15003122

>>15001506
To trip or not to trip, that is the question>>15003104
Based

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>>14999487
"Financial Capital" by Rudolf Hilferding.

>> No.15003321

Pee pee poo poo
-some free trade poopeepooper

Checkmate

>> No.15003335

>>15003321
how will we protectionistbros every recover?