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[Anonymous No.14988994]

ITT we discuss the future economic system

[Anonymous No.14989030]

>interest free money

how do these retarded explain this away

[Anonymous No.14989055]

Will never happen. Neoliberal technocapitalism isn't going anywhere, they have all the best weapons and other tech and will never share.

[Anonymous No.14989056]

>>14988994
So.. who do we kill first?

[Anonymous No.14989063]

>>14988994
A lot countries already have a land value tax. Uts not an ideology in of itself

[Anonymous No.14989101]

The future is about bugman neoliberalism just accept it.

[Anonymous No.14989110]

>>14989063
Georgism removes other taxes though, the only taxes in that system are land-based.

[Anonymous No.14989115]

>>14989030

By shrinking the money supply back into alignment with real economic output.

Usury was illegal in many ancient societies, but the current neoliberal order makes it impossible to imagine not relying on credit more than real wealth.

There are other ways of distributing resources

[Anonymous No.14989123]

>>14989115
but there wasn't credit either when usury was illegal

[Anonymous No.14989138]

Check out Goonan's idea of Conscious Capitalism in his book The Foundation for Exploration.

[Anonymous No.14989144]

>>14989115
>By shrinking the money supply back into alignment with real economic output.
That's impossible. You want to allign subject measurement with subjective measurment. Your better off calculating bananas to bats.

[Anonymous No.14989171]

I think the natural state will simply fall back to serfs and kings

You simply cannot control such a large amount of people by a system created out of bribery and denial of truth

The power of the state goes only as far as the police are willing to take it and without a strong moral center figure the will of the army men is weak and moldable

[Anonymous No.14989178]

>>14988994
The future system will be none of these. It'll be National Syndicalism and Catholic Distributism

[Anonymous No.14989191]

>>14989144

What

[Anonymous No.14989220]

>>14989171
>I think the natural state will simply fall back to serfs and kings
Many people already argue we are there and claim we are in a new glided age. Personally I think it has some truth.

>You simply cannot control such a large amount of people by a system created out of bribery and denial of truth
China completely debunks that narrative.

>The power of the state goes only as far as the police are willing to take it and without a strong moral center figure the will of the army men is weak and moldable
The police have no limits. History has proven this. Also a strong moral centre is extremely subjective. America neevr had one in my opinion. Russia under stalin? Now there's a leader with a strong moral centre around him

[Anonymous No.14989279]

>>14989220
China hasn't done anything, there are still large scale revolts and they've lost a large amount of their territory and people over the past hundred years

Taiwan/Hong Kong/Tibet
The many other border conflicts between Russia and China

Plus with the new age of globalization Chinese citizens have gone the way of most Americans and care little about nationalist interests while abroad, and would happily and gleefully sell out Chyna if it meant more iphones or some shit
That's not control at all, that's just a mass of people influenced by vague group think

And strong moral figures existed through history under virtuoso leaders, Marcus Aurelius would come to mind or the general roman senate who didn't appeal to populi but rather to justice and their own moral code

[Anonymous No.14990368]

>>14988994
feel free to call me an idiot, but i'm not entirely sure why georgism and mutualism are at odds. an undeveloped land tax doesn't seem to be in contrast with cooperative based economics

[Anonymous No.14991288]

>>14990368
It says Georgism & Mutualism, not vs.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.14991311]

I have it all laid out right here.

[Anonymous No.14991332]

>>14988994
Mutualism is a form of socialism, and Georgism is just a socialistic half-measure that limits itself to natural forms of capital.

[Anonymous No.14991433]

>>14991311
Oh god, oh fuck.

[Anonymous No.14992113]

>>14988994
It's simple, we uh... KILL the landlords...

[Anonymous No.14992371]

>>14988994
>mutualism
>Proudhon
let this historical meme die

[Anonymous No.14992386]

Dicks for the Noumena

[Anonymous No.14992530]

>>14989063
>A lot countries already have a land value tax.
It's to the degree that it makes rentier behaviours/rent collecting impossible. Also >>14989110

[Anonymous No.14992597]

>>14989115
Pretty sure China does this today. Their banking system is nationalized and not founded on debt

[Anonymous No.14992627]

>>14989101
>just accept that the future is gonna suck lmao