/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14983816]

>OMG I-is that traditionalism? Omg t-that's fascism, a-are you against modernism? Omg that's fascism, y-you want a healthy and fearless population? Omg that's fascism, y-you c-care about anything? Omg that's fascism. Heh though you will escape my ambiguous definition of fascism? Better luck next time pal

What was his problem?

[Anonymous No.14983861]

there is a reason no Pol-sci or phil departament uses his work to explain what fascism was

[Anonymous No.14983867]

who dis?

[Anonymous No.14983886]

>>14983867
Umberto eco

[Anonymous No.14983893]

Umberto Eco and Mo Yan are people that should be limited to fiction and texts about their are of expertise.

[Anonymous No.14983900]

>>14983893
>about their area* of expertise

[Anonymous No.14983982]

>>14983816
>Why yes, I am a fascist. How could you tell?

[Anonymous No.14984125]

>>14983982
>Why yes, I am a fascist. How could you tell?

[Anonymous No.14984134]

>>14983816
He was born in a time when Italy did nothing but receive foreign aid by americans so people like him could become parasite on the working class

[Anonymous No.14984308]

>>14984134
>this is what united-statism does to your brain

[Anonymous No.14984328]

>>14983816
"Fascism" stopped meaning anything a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.14984342]

>>14983861
what do they use then, and why dont they use him?

[Anonymous No.14984369]

>>14983816
>"what's that?" "Traditionalism is Ur-fascism?"
>"quite so, that's why I love it"

[Anonymous No.14984616]

>>14984369
>>14983982
cringe

>>14984125
based

[Anonymous No.14984640]

>>14984616
Cope and take your meds, tranny soilord. Men who lift are fashy.

[Anonymous No.14984663]

>>14984640

The strong stand up for the weak, fascism is for weak males who want to be strong by being a part of a gang

[Anonymous No.14984686]

The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
The obsession with a plot. “The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia.”
The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”

[Anonymous No.14984694]

>>14984663
>The strong stand up for the weak,
Yeah, you want a big daddy to stand up for your scrawny ass. That's the difference, fascists want to stand up for their nation and people.
>who want to be strong by being a part of a gang
Sure, gangs of strong men.

[Anonymous No.14984734]

>>14984694

I've never met a fascist who was a strong person, they're almost always incels with psychological and spiritual problems, looking for a tribe to be a part of that will protect them. The strong stand up for the weak and vulnerable, the weak terrorize those who can't defend themselves.

[Anonymous No.14984768]

>>14984734
>the weak terrorize those who can't defend themselves.
Yeah, like antifa beating up grannies or goylems weaker than women jumping people in herds. I've never met a 'leftist' who was even functional, let alone normal in any sense. Always homosexual self-hating white people and very insincere browns who would be seen as ethno-supremacist and fascist if they were white. They're spiritually dead and want to be physically dead.

Men of the dissident right lift, work out and try to improve themselves in the face of an increasingly dysfunctional society that promotes reckless consumerism and poor habits. Even in the face of total adversity their spirits are high, for even if they lose the battle or the war they will have done the honourable thing. What else can one do than to struggle for your people?

[Anonymous No.14984818]

Honestly, the enablers of capital dominating the West have always been the weak fucks willing to sell out their people. Who spit on their traditions and culture and fight for the enemy. They may call themselves marxists, leftists, conservatives or whatever buzzword is fashionable, but they're all the same archetype. The loser who worship his jewish overlords like gods and hate his own people more than anything else, who wants to see them dead.

These were the men who destroyed Churches and killed priests for the jews during the red revolution in Russia, but also the same men who now betray their people for paltry sums today. Be them in the halls of government, in the social institutions or in the streets, forming mobs at the first sign of disobedience. Weak and spiteful men with no families who are driven by hate.

[Anonymous No.14984821]

>>14984768
based

[Anonymous No.14984826]

>>14984686

This is total pseud journalist level crap. How embarrassing

[Anonymous No.14984849]

>>14984768

There's nothing honorable about raging against minorities on /pol/, the whole thing reeks of insecurity. Leftists do more good in terms of community service than right wingers do, and we bring people together instead of building walls. The majority of "white" people reject you and the cause of white nationalism, it's always goblin incels who use race to hide behind while ironically pushing for eugenics.

[Anonymous No.14984850]

>>14984768
IT'S ABOUT ETHICS IN GAMING JOURNALISM.

[Anonymous No.14984853]

>>14984686
there is literally nothing wrong with any of that

[Anonymous No.14984856]

>>14984849
>Leftists do more good in terms of community service than right wingers do, and we bring people together instead of building walls
Not him but that's the various churches in America.

[Anonymous No.14984865]

>>14984342
Don't worry the elephant survived

[Anonymous No.14984875]

>>14984856

Churches aren't right wing, the Roman Catholic church has historically been against nationalism and racism. Evangelicals are not racialist either, and many forms of Protestantism are anti statist. Religion is a lot more nuanced than the current political climate, and it would be a mistake to think Christianity is right wing

[Anonymous No.14984880]

>>14984849
>we bring people together instead of building walls.
Wew, yes, more neoliberal slogans. Cheap labour and sinking wages are love, borders and walls are hate. How droll.
>The majority of "white" people reject you
And now you deny there's even such a thing as Europeans, it's almost as if you hold some grudge against them or something.
>>14984875
>Churches aren't right wing
Were you dropped on the head as a baby?

[Anonymous No.14984906]

>>14984875
>it would be a mistake to think Christianity is right wing
All I said is that the biggest and most helpful charities in America are churches. Delving into the politics of the various denominations in America alone could fill multiple books, and I'm not silly enough to pretend I know enough about that.

[Anonymous No.14984913]

>>14984880
>Wew, yes, more neoliberal slogans. Cheap labour and sinking wages are love, borders and walls are hate. How droll.

If you're coming from a leftist paradigm this is not even an issue when workers will control the means of production

>And now you deny there's even such a thing as Europeans, it's almost as if you hold some grudge against them or something.

Why are you so eager to prove that people who don't agree with you are "white"? European consists of many different cultures and creeds, this concept of white is WASP propaganda. For example, Jew's are very much European but they wouldn't be considered "white" which is silly, all despite sharing the same dna as most Europeans.

>Were you dropped on the head as a baby?

Not an argument, Christianity isn't right wing and you can't use it to perpetuate your racist eugenicist agenda

[Anonymous No.14984920]

>>14984913
Reddit spacing. Redditor detected

[Anonymous No.14984926]

>>14984920

Incel detected

[Anonymous No.14984930]

>>14984849
You are a fascist on the making unironically

[Anonymous No.14984947]

>>14984849
>Put "white" in spooky quotes when talking about it positively, but not when talking about it negatively
It's interesting, as if you dont want it to have any validation whenever whites want to talk about their interests, but it's suddenly and simultaneously also extremely valid and real when talking about the horrors of white supremacism.
Drop the cognitive dissonance.

[Anonymous No.14984950]

>>14984930

I don't think you know what fascism entails, and no protecting the vulnerable from violence is not fascist.

[Anonymous No.14984957]

>>14984950
>beating random grannies
>Calling locals racist when theyre the target of muslim violence
>"protecting the innocent from violence"
lel

[Anonymous No.14984977]

>>14984957

>beating random grannies

Leftists aren't doing that, but right wing fascists will do it once they're enabled to do so, only it will be Hispanic, Black, and Asian grannies

[Anonymous No.14984988]

>>14984913
>If you're coming from a leftist paradigm this is not even an issue when workers will control the means of production
I have ascended beyond all of it. Hierarchies will always exist, collective ownership doesn't really work in practice but collective power does work. Now you might not care about the wages of people being pushed down by international finance moving people around for profit, nor about the crime and ethnic replacement that it brings because of some pie in the sky dream of collective ownership after a revolution that will never come, but the people do care about such things.
>Why are you so eager to prove that people who don't agree with you are "white"?
I really don't care if you are or aren't, traitors get the bullet too. Most people of west European stock have been taught by jews to hate themselves and their people and to value other ethnics higher. Again, you clearly have no love at all for the people and this is important to the position I'm coming from, which is that of the people.
>Christianity isn't right wing
It's radically right-wing, leftists are materialists and anti-religious. Both liberals and marxists oppose higher loyalities, such as to God.
>you can't use it to perpetuate your racist eugenicist agenda
Sure I could, if I had one.

[Anonymous No.14985005]

>>14984947

White is real in the sense that it's used as a cultural power structure, and there was once a time when the Irish weren't considered white. My point is that it doesn't matter who is or isn't white.

[Anonymous No.14985031]

>>14985005
>My point is that it doesn't matter who is or isn't white.
Of course it matters, and certainly to you. Racialism is only a problem for you when white people want some sort of representation or advocacy, but blatant racial supremacism is fine when anyone else does it. You have huge double standards and you clearly hate Europeans as a whole. You should be honest and upfront about it instead of being such a coward.

[Anonymous No.14985037]

>>14985005
So "black" people arent real either, and anything related to "black" pride or "black" nationalism is just bullshit, right? Yet i see such empty and apparently made up constructs all the time in the left.

[Anonymous No.14985040]

>>14984988

The only people who are getting the bullet are violent right wingers and traitors to humanity.

>It's radically right-wing, leftists are materialists and anti-religious. Both liberals and marxists oppose higher loyalities, such as to God.

Christianity isn't right wing, regardless of it's "traditional" aesthetics anymore than Islam is right wing. There is no concept of racial purity and nationalism to be found in the scriptures or teachings of Jesus Christ, if anything it's subversive to the idea of imperialism.

[Anonymous No.14985059]

>>14985005
In 100 years you faggots will be calling the Japanese white

[Anonymous No.14985063]

>>14985037

There's a huge difference between black nationalism and white nationalism, blacks have genuinely been at the short end of the stick, where as white nationalism is just autistic screeching over "miscegenation" in television. In leftism there's no need for black nationalism, because black people are treated like human beings

[Anonymous No.14985084]

>>14985059

Japanese will be anarchist in 100 years, alt right loser

[Anonymous No.14985087]

>>14984849
There's a reason why the powers that be fear the extreme right (at least on ideological grounds) more than the left. The former is their true ideological enemy, while the latter is merely a political expedient.

[Anonymous No.14985093]

>>14985087

The extreme right is literally ran by the CIA lol

[Anonymous No.14985095]

>>14985040
>The only people who are getting the bullet are violent right wingers
Okay, I must say you were very believable until this. Well played.
>Christianity isn't right wing
You keep saying this but it is the ultimate hierarchy and order one can subscribe to, same thing with Islam, they're fundamentally opposed to dumb shit like marxism and other materialist ideologies. They also teach their followers that one should defend one's people and so on.
>>14985063
>There's a huge difference between black nationalism and white nationalism
Yeah, you love one form of racialism and hate the other for some mysterious reason. Makes you think.
>blacks have genuinely been at the short end of the stick
White America has been sucking their dicks since they ended slavery. These days they're a group with special privileges and shit. Imagine if people actually got jobs in America because they were white and soley based on that, that's what niggers have now.

[Anonymous No.14985094]

>>14985084
Cute picture, but studies have shown that right wingers look after their bodies moreso than left wingers.

[Anonymous No.14985097]

>>14985063
>blacks have genuinely been at the short end of the stick, where as white nationalism is just autistic screeching over "miscegenation" in television.
So? That's childish naivety to think that blacks will somehow not turn into oppressors the moment they get the chance. And besides that, it more importantly insists that "black" as a category is more valid than "white", simply because one was the oppressed and other wasnt. But i still dont see why people who are supposedly against nations will somehow make an exception for a nation that consists of people who were historically oppressed, even when such a nation still has hierarchies, exploitation, and all the general nonsense that the left claims to be against. Do you support Israel as well because Jews were once oppressed? If not, then why do you support "black" nationalism, when they could just as easily turn their nation into an oppressive nation as well (which is really what happened with Liberia)?.

All this confirms is that the theory behind the Left is extremely flimsy, and that what is really at work here is just Nietzschean ressentiment. Which is worthless, and ought to be dismissed.

[Anonymous No.14985100]

>>14985093
You proved my point. The ruling class have vested interest in infiltrating and subverting far right organisations.

[Anonymous No.14985104]

>>14985040
>The only people who are getting the bullet are violent right wingers and traitors to humanity.
Sure, and of course priests, for polluting the minds of the masses, and of course the people who happen to starve when collectivization starts (and fails), and of course anyone who disagrees with the regime in the starting days of the revolution (Chekists were just following orders!), and later on anyone who disagrees with the Supreme Leader, and after power has been consolidated, also all ethnic and religious minorities will be worked to death in gulags.

Seriously, people can see through your lies and false promises after countless of historical examples, you two-faced rat.

[Anonymous No.14985108]

>>14984875
>>14984913
Well, i didn't wanted to get involved in this discussion, but you mentioned Christ so there's no avoiding it now.
>The enemy is not merely any competitor or just any partner of a conflict in general. He is also not the private adversary whom one hates. An enemy exists only when, at least potentially, one fighting collectivity of people confronts a similar collectivity. The enemy is solely the public enemy, because everything that has a relationship to such a collectivity of men, particularly to a whole nation, becomes public by virtue of such a relationship. The enemy is hostis, not inimicus in the broader sense [...] As German and other languages do not distinguish between the private and political enemy, many misconceptions and falsifications are possible. The often quoted "Love your enemies" (Matt. 5:44; Luke 6:27) reads "diligite inimicos vestros," [...] and not diligite hastes vestras. No mention is made of the political enemy. Never in the thousand-year struggle between Christians and Moslems did it occur to a Christian to surrender rather than defend Europe out of love toward the Saracens or Turks. The enemy in the political sense need not be hated personally, and in the private sphere only does it make sense to love one's enemy, i.e., one's adversary. The Bible quotation touches the political antithesis even less than it intends to dissolve, for example, the antithesis of good and evil or beautiful and ugly. It certainly does not mean that one should love and support the enemies of one's own people.
This quote is, of course, from Schmitt's "the Concept of the Political".
TL;DR: If you're reading the Bible based on modern translations you're missing the half of it.
>b-but muh protestant and catholic church isn't right wing!!1!
You are kinda right with the protestants and evangelical churches, and only right about the "new age" catholic church (since you seem to be ignoring the religious wars of the middle ages), and absolutely ignored the existence of the orthodox church (muh shock), but i don't care anyways. See Luke 20:20-26.

[Anonymous No.14985109]

>>14985084
You really dont want to start the "which side looks better?" game.

[Anonymous No.14985112]

>>14985087
Yeah, there's a reason universities want you to read critical theory while Mein Kamf is being banned. What they fear is the people taking back their nation from international finance, the left are their tools to prevent this. See borders and immigration, the left are literally goons for capital. This goes for everything.

[Anonymous No.14985113]

>>14985097

In a free anarchist world, there's no reason for anyone to become an oppressor. Historically in our development as a species, racism stemmed from ignorance of the other, but this is simply no longer the case for most people in developed countries. We have more in common with each other than you allow yourself to see

[Anonymous No.14985117]

>>14983816
I want an ethnostate for myself
>omg your fascist
Yes?

[Anonymous No.14985128]

>>14985117

Nobody has a right over land and natural resources

[Anonymous No.14985134]

>>14984734
>define being right wing as a psychological problem
>now every right wing person has psychological problems
brilliant work comrade

[Anonymous No.14985137]

>>14985113
Let's start by dropping the borders of Israel and inviting in the Palestinians, race doesn't matter so that should turn out alright.

[Anonymous No.14985140]

>>14985113
>In a free anarchist world, there's no reason for anyone to become an oppressor.
Then why support black nationalism, when there is supposedly no need for any forms of nations under anarchism, and you're only just reifying a construct (the nation) that you admit is against your ideology? If a nation exists, it will always be an exploiter, and thinking that one race is innately not going to exploit others is the same as biological racism. Your views here are bordering on ethnic nationalism of the alt-right, although you inconsistently stop at one particular race. Tell me, do you also tell black nationalists that "We have more in common with each other than you allow yourself to see", or do you conveniently shut your mouth when they are promoting ethnic nationalism?

[Anonymous No.14985141]

>>14985128
>Nobody has a right over land and natural resources
>but colonialism was wrong and white people should pay for it

[Anonymous No.14985142]

>>14985137

>dropping the borders of Israel and inviting in the Palestinians

Yes.

[Anonymous No.14985143]

>>14985128
So i can just move into Africa and start a farm, and they have no right to stop me, correct?

[Anonymous No.14985147]

>>14985140

I'm against all nationalism, black nationalism is understandable but it's not the real solution

[Anonymous No.14985152]

>>14985147
Then it's not understandable, you're just too much of a coward to stand up against it.
It's one of the many ways in which anarchism is just extremely inconsistent, and even the slightest criticism makes it all just fall apart. Just like any attempts at anarchism in reality.

[Anonymous No.14985154]

>>14985147
White nationalism is not only understandable, but the only solution. Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.14985164]

>>14985152

Why are right wingers so unable to understand political nuance? Everything is black and white to the rightoid

[Anonymous No.14985169]

>>14984913
>Be God
>observe every religious obligation when taking the human nature to save us
>never call the Hebrews to rebel against Caesar

>2000 years later some dork on the internet calls You an anarchist
ah

[Anonymous No.14985172]

This thread just proves that rightoids have more of a victim complex more than everyone else. Imagine being a scrawny bourgeois twink in your comfy home lying in your bed under your blanket phoneposting about white unification on an anime website.

[Anonymous No.14985176]

>>14985164
What nuance? You're just accepting of racialism in favour of one race but not the other because you hate one people but not the other. Where's the nuance in that? Literally a palette swap of the dumbest of neo-nazis.

[Anonymous No.14985183]

>>14985169

Yet for 2000 years Christianity planted the seeds that have uprooted the traditional paradigm. Jesus told his followers to be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves, through peace and love Rome was transformed and so the entire world. There is no justification for racism in Christianity, not in Catholicism, Orthodoxy, or Protestantism, nor is there justification for a fascist state. Hitler was not a Christian, the entire Nazi regime was satanic

[Anonymous No.14985185]

>>14985164
>The giant contradictions in my ideology on the topic of race are just political nuance
Of course, biological essentialism isnt a matter of nuance at all, right? Just the things you hold dear.

[Anonymous No.14985186]

>>14985172
>have more of a victim complex more than everyone else
Not possible.

[Anonymous No.14985189]

>>14985172
t. anarchist who jacks off over putting bullets in right wingers, even though he cant open the door without a nervous breakdown
Back to tranny central

[Anonymous No.14985197]

>>14985172
Imagine being a tranny 'leftist' being scared of the white bogeyman all of the time, despite white people not even having power in their own societies.

[Anonymous No.14985201]

>>14985189
>>14985186
Cope

[Anonymous No.14985203]

>>14985197
>>14985189

samefag

[Anonymous No.14985205]

>>14985201
Seethe harder, bugman.

[Anonymous No.14985208]

>>14984663
>The strong stand up for the weak,
ugh...

[Anonymous No.14985209]

>>14985203
Lolno.

[Anonymous No.14985210]

>>14985205

The only people who are bug males are rightoid drones

[Anonymous No.14985213]

>>14985201
>>14985203
Nah
Also nice facebook filename, faggot. Glowing harder than ukrainian cabbage.