Stop reading, it's a waste of time. Take the Bach pill

[Anonymous No.14977694]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xW-dH0a23s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO8i5D2uz84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFTvjRpaU38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XopQG0Gjgmo
https://youtu.be/MORa0Y98Z1o

[Anonymous No.14977698]

>>14977694
>My Bach!

[Anonymous No.14977702]

Bach is demonstrably good for the brain, but you should still read books.

[Anonymous No.14977706]

imagine if the piano existed in bach's time

[Anonymous No.14977721]

Bach would disagree and threaten to kill you for no reading enough music theory

[Anonymous No.14977805]

>>14977694
I loved playing Bach back in my piano days, both father and son. Minuet in G major is still my favorite.

[Anonymous No.14978155]

Am I a pleb for preferring Renaissance and Medieval over Baroque and Classical?

[Anonymous No.14978177]

>>14978155
Every era has its merits, but Baroque is objectively the peak of music.

[Anonymous No.14978186]

>>14978155
No

[Anonymous No.14978422]

>>14978155
True patricians prefer silence

[Anonymous No.14978430]

>>14978422
Music and Silence are one and the same

t. cryptic wise eastern sage man

[Anonymous No.14978611]

>>14977694
>>14977706
>piano
nice way to take a dump on contrast, clarity and ornamentation because of muh dynamics
https://youtu.be/arlIslgrAZ8
https://youtu.be/EqljzP0IG6s

[Anonymous No.14978715]

>>14977694
this ain’t rym pal

[Anonymous No.14978723]

>>14978422
> John cage 4:44

[Anonymous No.14978736]

>>14977698
I'd want to go to Aches-les-Pains

[Anonymous No.14978746]

>>14978723
>4:44

[Anonymous No.14978912]

The patrician choice is obviously Schubert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8UDOmUcxCk

[Anonymous No.14978916]

>>14978912
Based schubert chad

[Anonymous No.14978933]

Am I wrong if I stay that "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" is a musical achievement of similair magnitude

[Anonymous No.14978950]

Why does no one outside of /classical/ like my dude Schoenberg

[Anonymous No.14978968]

>>14978933
It's a fun album but it's got nothing on bach
https://youtu.be/A41CITk85jk

[Anonymous No.14978992]

>>14978611
Literal retard. The harpsichord is a fine instrument with some minor advantages for contrapuntal clarity (am pianist but have some experience playing both), but any competent pianist can achieve comparable results in addition to having infinitely more expressive capability. There is a reason every major composer who had access to a piano preferred it to a harpsichord and Bach, an extremely pragmatic composer, would absolutely have done the same.

Compare the A-section and its repetition here and tell me Gould suffered from and limitations regarding clarity or contrast between the voices.
https://youtu.be/UH1Grw4B4PA

[Anonymous No.14979002]

>>14978950
My Hegelian lecturer (working on his professorship) always mentions Schönberg when he wants to talk about aesthetic beauty that is ineffable to explanation.
Honestly it made me question his ability as a philosopher after listening into Schönbergs work myself.

[Anonymous No.14979029]

>>14978933
I love Neutral Milk Hotel, but yes you would be objectively wrong.

[Anonymous No.14979256]

>>14978992
I don't deny the ability to be expressive and play a somewhat clear sound on the right piano but
1. It isn't as clear by principle of hammer action. Steinways for example are muddled messes
2. This relative clarity requires more effort as opposed to being effortless on the harpsichord

Then there's the consequence of this where every note in a sequence isn't standing out with the same clarity and contrast. The only advantage of this is that it hides mistakes, whereas if you play one note wrong on the other instrument it will be much more noticeable.
The striking action of the plectrum is why the harpsichord will always create a more powerful, bright glistering sound while the piano's sound is round and reminiscent of liquids and clouds.
With that difference in mind you can imagine for what type of music each instrument is more suited.

https://youtu.be/CNMONM-6-s4
https://youtu.be/LCSQnGIWii4

[Anonymous No.14979333]

>>14977702
True and metal and rock & roll Jewish filth is objectively bad.

[Anonymous No.14980883]

>>14977721
Based

[Anonymous No.14980919]

>>14978992
>>14979256
Would you say that the lute is the harpsichord's predecessor?

[Anonymous No.14981113]

>>14978155
You *can* have both:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCezRGfkGE4

[stop listening to music vainly No.14981151]

>And a terrible thing is music in general. What is it? Why does it do what it does? They say that music stirs the soul. Stupidity! A lie! It acts, it acts frightfully (I speak for myself), but not in an ennobling way. It acts neither in an ennobling nor a debasing way, but in an irritating way. How shall I say it? Music makes me forget my real situation. It transports me into a state which is not my own. Under the influence of music I really seem to feel what I do not feel, to understand what I do not understand, to have powers which I cannot have. Music seems to me to act like yawning or laughter; I have no desire to sleep, but I yawn when I see others yawn; with no reason to laugh, I laugh when I hear others laugh. And music transports me immediately into the condition of soul in which he who wrote the music found himself at that time. I become confounded with his soul, and with him I pass from one condition to another. But why that? I know nothing about it? But he who wrote Beethoven’s ‘Kreutzer Sonata’ knew well why he found himself in a certain condition. That condition led him to certain actions, and for that reason to him had a meaning, but to me none, none whatever. And that is why music provokes an excitement which it does not bring to a conclusion. For instance, a military march is played; the soldier passes to the sound of this march, and the music is finished. A dance is played; I have finished dancing, and the music is finished. A mass is sung; I receive the sacrament, and again the music is finished. But any other music provokes an excitement, and this excitement is not accompanied by the thing that needs properly to be done, and that is why music is so dangerous, and sometimes acts so frightfully.
>“In China music is under the control of the State, and that is the way it ought to be. Is it admissible that the first comer should hypnotize one or more persons, and then do with them as he likes? And especially that the hypnotizer should be the first immoral individual who happens to come along? It is a frightful power in the hands of any one, no matter whom. For instance, should they be allowed to play this ‘Kreutzer Sonata,’ the first presto,—and there are many like it,—in parlors, among ladies wearing low necked dresses, or in concerts, then finish the piece, receive the applause, and then begin another piece? These things should be played under certain circumstances, only in cases where it is necessary to incite certain actions corresponding to the music. But to incite an energy of feeling which corresponds to neither the time nor the place, and is expended in nothing, cannot fail to act dangerously. On me in particular this piece acted in a frightful manner. One would have said that new sentiments, new virtualities, of which I was formerly ignorant, had developed in me. ‘Ah, yes, that’s it! Not at all as I lived and thought before! This is the right way to live!’

[Anonymous No.14981159]

>>14977694
>Not preferring Sviatosjlav Richter over all others
sad!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC5WTwwrPmI

[Anonymous No.14981163]

>>14978611
thanks for reminding me how amazing scarlatti is

[Anonymous No.14981170]

>>14979002
maybe he just meant verklarte nacht

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-pVz2LTakM

[Anonymous No.14981212]

because he's a cuck

[Anonymous No.14981250]

>>14981212
Dude had 20 kids, fuck you talking about?

[Anonymous No.14981362]

>>14978155
I think Classical is boring. But as >>14978177 said, Baroque is the very best that music has to offer.

[Anonymous No.14981370]

>>14981151
Tolstoy got filtered by MUSIC of all things, lmao

[Anonymous No.14981380]

>>14981212
bach was the very opposite of a cuck. he fathered over 20 kids in his life and once fought off a gang with a rapier. he was an absolute chad

[Anonymous No.14981399]

>>14978155
No: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yd5EE0hAB8

[Anonymous No.14981406]

Renaissance > *

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRgj6DS_uAE

[Anonymous No.14981408]

>>14981380
>>14981250
sorry i was referring to taht one guy's professor who said schoenberg's music was ineffably beautiful and i posted verklaerte nacht as a joke because it's a programmatic piece about a cuck

[Anonymous No.14981412]

>>14981399
>>14981406
spergs need to stop posting ugly pictures with beuatiful music

[Anonymous No.14981423]

>>14981412
Bite me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxLv2pPiQVI

[Anonymous No.14981433]

>>14978155
No. I prefer medieval, renaissance, baroque and 20th century over classical era and romanticism. You don't have to like the entry level stuff.

[Anonymous No.14981435]

>>14981433
ah, i see we have a true patrician here

[Anonymous No.14981442]

>>14979002
Perhaps it's you that doesn't get it?

[Anonymous No.14981450]

Take the divine pill.
>The Great Soviet Encyclopedia said of Scriabin that "no composer has had more scorn heaped on him or greater love bestowed."
>Leo Tolstoy described Scriabin's music as "a sincere expression of genius."
>According to his biographer Bowers, "No one was more famous during their lifetime, and few were more quickly ignored after death."
>In 2009 Roger Scruton described Scriabin as "one of the greatest of modern composers".

[Anonymous No.14981492]

>>14981170
woah! so unsettling...

[Anonymous No.14981501]

>>14981151
didnt real lol

[Anonymous No.14981512]

harpsichord era has never been beaten, the two below sound like video game music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt1MVKKzAx8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38nXCDu_MYg

[Anonymous No.14981515]

>>14981512
maybe if the only game you've played is castlevania sure

[Anonymous No.14981520]

>>14981515
i don't play video games but that's what i imagine they should sound like

[Anonymous No.14981526]

If you posted this thread on /mu/ it would get 0 replies. Why does /lit/ have to bear this brunt?

[Anonymous No.14981535]

>>14981526
if /lit/ were like /mu/ then 95% of threads would be about shitty genre fiction and all discussion of literature would be relegated to a barely active general

[Anonymous No.14981774]

>>14981113
>Monteverdi

[Anonymous No.14981932]

>>14981526
The only place on /mu/ that has an IQ score of above 100 and SOME taste is the /classical/ general, other than that it's absolutely fucking terrible.
>>14981535
What this guy said.

[Anonymous No.14982187]

>>14979256
This. Similar principles go when it comes to instruments appropriate for the period generally, as long as one puts intelligiblity, for lack of a better term, over dogmatic insistence on historical accuracy. It's one of the reasons, besides the enormous size of repertoire, that there are so many orchestras that specialize in categories & sub-categories within it.
Likewise, one of the reasons John Eliot Gardiner combined with the BPO makes me think of a willed trainwreck more than an accidental one, from what I could endure to listen of it, since on the executive side of things the musician becomes the instrument, as composers resist doing, and listeners had better not if they know what's good for them.

[Anonymous No.14982610]

>>14978422
Based

[Anonymous No.14983368]

>>14981774
More like Giovanni Autisti, amirite gais ;D??

[Anonymous No.14983376]

take the kpop pill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNZKqhXCv5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_iQRO5BdCM#t=1m23s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlN2BXNJzxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwN_Axs7pL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VKcLPdY9lI#t=14s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uhUmjANdQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=499YUeNoYVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF8kySIcWNw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0p1bmr0EmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pBgMBBsv4k#t=38s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amq-qlqbjYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q93dY2qeMeU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgmSImDoJNg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9OxRFab6o4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR8Mrt1IpXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txWmd7QKFe8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbnRfBGjeaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYoYoBtLqOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZwr2a_lFWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej-PBlE4ODQ#t=35s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJVUjmNMF8c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Med2XipHJJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LCGn9UFNAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt0eKY3R9kQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8I8QGFA1oM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOmTdFpIDX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsWl1--Niyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnAhnxmSNFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF3MC8PWgJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSYoDqkbzzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIqkDBsSJOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYqfHaAkplw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tVe-60aQ5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2OFPvYxZuY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KGHiRo2apM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfVYOFCQufw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpatVVhT-Io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk52ypnGs68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfXZ6ydgZyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OSmITtaX3o#t=20s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO9RzrhYR-I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_CTPzCHElU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ

[Anonymous No.14983382]

>>14983376
>>>/t/rash

And stay there