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How smart is /lit/? IQ test.
It's not B.

>> No.14866302

It's not a cube. Also, it's just 'take', not 'takes'

>> No.14866318

>>14866288
is it implied that the 1-2-3 path is the path the bug would take? because that makes no sense.
also, this was barely readable

>> No.14866323

>>14866288
I think it might be B.

>> No.14866327

>>14866323
Same

>> No.14866330

>>14866323
>>14866327
It's not B. Why do you think it's B?
>>14866318
No, that's just to show the lengths of the edges of the box.
The actual shortest path would be more diagonal.
>>14866302
I didn't produce this image and you're right, it contains typos. However, if you have above average IQ, the question should still be clear.

>> No.14866337

is it the middle of (1)?
it is B, though

>> No.14866339

The answer is A, presuming it has to move to get to the named spot.

>> No.14866341

>>14866337
>is it the middle of (1)?
if you're talking about the point you're looking for, then no.
>it is B, though
It's not B.
This is a great question because it probably seems to you all that I'm trolling, but it's genuinely, actually not B. Try to provide a proof of why it's B - you can't! Because it's not B.

>> No.14866343

>>14866330
If it’s to show the length of the edges of the box, then it’s not a cube lol

>> No.14866348

>>14866343
Yes. As I said, the question contains typos. The object in question is not a cube, it's a 1x1x2 box.

>> No.14866354

>>14866339
No. The distance from A to A is arbitrarily small.
Perhaps you're thinking that the bug must travel along the edges: it doesn't. It can travel however it likes, provided it stays on the surface of the box.

>> No.14866362

>>14866288
Also I think the answer is: at the center of the top surface of the cube

>> No.14866363

Fix your fucking typos before ever asking /lit/ to defile their eyes with this poor excuse of an illustration again, you fucking retard.
Thank you.

>> No.14866370

>>14866362
That's incorrect.
>>14866363
Being able to interpret the question with imperfect grammar is part of the IQ test. Evidently you failed.

>> No.14866371

>>14866330
I don't remember how to get the length of a third side of a triangle, but I'm pretty sure that it has to be longer than the two sides with length of 1. So even if the bug travels diagonally on the bottom square, that plus a length of 2 is already longer than the distance to any of the other corners. I guess the endpoint could be set to somewhere that isn't a corner on the top square, but wouldn't that mean it no longer has to travel the full length of the third side of the triangle? And that third side is crucial to maximizing the distance? Please let me know if I'm wrong.

>> No.14866372

>>14866288
If the bug walks it's B
if the bug flies it's also B

>> No.14866378

Why are you all replying to bait?

>> No.14866379

>>14866354
You can't just endlessly redefine the problem and not allow anyone to do the same. Here, I'll further redefine: the answer is A presuming the bug has to move and cannot backtrack. That is the correct answer whether it's the one you have in mind or not. ("The distance from A to A is arbitrarily small" doesn't mean anything unless you're being willfully obtuse. A itself hasn't even been given dimensions.)

>> No.14866388

>>14866371
This is my explanation of answer B, by the way.

>> No.14866389

>>14866288
>It's not B.
Mathematician here, it's B.

>> No.14866391

>>14866370
Can I revise my answer: the middle of one of the back top edges of the box. Like the middle of the side labeled 1?

>> No.14866392

>>14866288
How is it not B when the diagonal is the longest possible line in it?

>> No.14866394

>>14866379
I did not redefine the problem.
Nowhere in the problem did it say that the bug had to travel along the edges. I merely clarified it to someone who misinterpreted the problem.
>>14866389
It's not B. If you're a mathematician and believe it's B, you should be able to prove it.

>> No.14866397
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14866397

This is the answer without numbers, I think.

>> No.14866398

If you make a bug at B it will be there instantly. It's clearly AB/2 flying or 1+(1/sqrt(2)) down from B walking.

>> No.14866400

>>14866392
>diagonal is the longest possible line in it?
Explain what you mean.
>>14866397
What's going on in the picture? Explain the argument.

>> No.14866401

>>14866394
>Nowhere in the problem did it say that the bug had to travel along the edges. I merely clarified it to someone who misinterpreted the problem.
When you stated that the bug takes the shortest path. Now guys please stop falling for the bait because it's low-tier and retarded

>> No.14866409
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14866409

>>14866397
fuck.
>>14866400
the shortest distance to B is not along the long edge, but diagonally across the face. Place C somewhere along the edge at the back forces you to take a longer route along the edge. the difference is small, like 0.2 something.

>> No.14866410

>>14866341
Just introduce x, y, z coordinates along the axes, make A the origin of it.
Based on the shortest path condition in OP's picture, the length of the path is simply the second degree euclidian norm of the point to reach. If you go full autism and refuse this, it is an obvious application of the triangular inequality of the metric dpace/normed vector space.
That means we need to maximize the quadratic form x^2+y^2+z^2 within the domain of the box.
HINT: the answer is fucking B.

>> No.14866412

>>14866401
The shortest path obviously neednt be along the edges.

>> No.14866414

>>14866394
Whether it has to travel along the edges or not, A is the furthest point if it can't backtrack (obviously the point of the problem is that the bug can only move in a direct path whether on the edges or otherwise or else I can say "point X in zigzags!") You're a literal bugman doing a bugmans problem: you've set up an apparatus designed to create a specific result, and as long as you dont get that specific result you 'redesign the apparatus'. If the bug has to move and can't move in arbitrary patterns (backwards, zigzags, etc, and must move in a direct path, the answer is A.)

>> No.14866419

>>14866394
Those three points leading to B (not the same as those labelled in the image) can represent a right triangle, of which the hypotenuse is logically the longest single side and the route the bug will travel since it is the shortest combined distance. B also posseses the longest possible bottom leg of the triangle since that would be also the hypotenuse of the square face on the ground if you broke it into two identical right triangles.

>> No.14866423

>>14866400
form A to B its root 6, find a longer line if you can

>> No.14866425

>>14866288
>how smart
Smart enough to know IQ tests are bogus.

>> No.14866426

>>14866409
You havet drawn the shortest path to B yet.

>> No.14866427

>>14866288
The hint is a rule for the problem. What you have to figure out is in which direction you should take an infinitesimal step to place your dot so that your step shortens the distance to A the least.

>> No.14866429

>>14866423
How do you get root6?

>> No.14866435

problem is not well defined

>> No.14866437

>>14866427
The hint is not a rule. Its an actual hint because there is such a point and its not B.

>> No.14866440

>>14866423
The bug travels on the surface. He cant dig through the box

>> No.14866448

>>14866429
you do 2 Pythagorean theorems, one to find the A point bellow B diagonal the you do another one to find AB.

>> No.14866451

>>14866448
Thats only valid assuming the bug can travel through the box. The bug must stay on the surface.

>> No.14866456

>>14866440
yea fuck off with your bs complicating the question , either make the question clear form the begging or accept all answers.
>>14866451
no such limitation in the question

>> No.14866458

>>14866440
>The bug travels on the surface
This was not stated in the problem, so I'm assuming it's any type of bug and my bug can fly. Therefore the answer is B

>> No.14866460

I am a faggot

>> No.14866461

>>14866456
>>14866458
Other anons seem to have understood this condition just fine. Without it the problem is trivial.

>> No.14866463

>>14866440
That's not in the faggot OP's picture. Especially when using the word 'cube' which designates the three dimensional shape, and using the word 'in' instead of 'on'.

>> No.14866464

The biggest

>> No.14866465

>>14866460
Hi faggot. Why are you pretending to be me, faggot?

>> No.14866468

>>14866463
Part of the IQ test. If the bug can travel through the box, the box doesnt add anything to the problem. Think.

>> No.14866471

>>14866461
In that case, IF we assume the bug has to travel along the edges, the point is in the exact center of the """cube""", which the bug can NEVER reach.

>> No.14866474

>>14866471
I already said repeatedly that the bug is confined to the surface of the box. There are no other conditions.

>> No.14866476

So, were you planning on ever giving a conclusion to your 'IQ test', OP?

>> No.14866482

>>14866474
Then my answer is correct, a point afloat in the center of the cube is unreachable by the bug and the time it takes to get there would be infinite. After all your questions asks about how much time it takes the bug to get to the point, not how much distance.

>> No.14866483

/lit is a NIGGER PLACE TO DISCUISSS BOOKS BY JEWS AND GAY CATHOLICS> IF YOU DONT GET THIS FAGGOT ASS MATH OUT OF MY ANAL CAVITY IM GONNA FUCKIN EXPLODE. WHOS GONNA CLEAN THAT UP < YOUR MOM? YOUR SISTER?

>> No.14866485

>>14866476
Yes in 2 hours. I have a meeting to attend to now.

>> No.14866495

>>14866465
shut up son

>> No.14866498

>>14866485
unless you continue to further tweak the parameters of the riddle to suit yourself, the answer has been found.

>> No.14866501

>>14866468
The box is essential in constraining the problem, otherwise there would be poi t of arbitrary distance from A.
I think we can already assess OP's iq here.

>> No.14866503

>>14866498
I am a faggot what do you expect

>> No.14866522

the only problem i have with this problem, bar the wording of it, is that the drawing does not match the length of the sides

>> No.14866544

>>14866288
You guys do realize this is a bait image, right? The question itself is worded so poorly that what's even being asked is ill-defined

>> No.14866545

He crawls up to a point on the ceiling close to B then freefalls to a point suspended in the air near the bottom

You may now worship me

>> No.14866552

>>14866426
Pretty sure I have, unless it's something really weird.
A-B edge route = 3.41
A-B diagonal route via edge midpoint = 3.18
>>14866544
The question is clear. Where on the box is the furthest point from A while travelling on the surface.

>> No.14866560

>>14866545
Sorry, the homosexual OP said the bug is confined to the surface of the """cube""" so free falling would not be allowed. The correct answer given the most recent moving of the goal posts would be that any point inside the cube but now on a surface would suffice. It would be inside the cube but unreachable and would take the longest amount of time (infinite) to reach.

>> No.14866566
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14866566

>>14866288

>> No.14866576

>>14866566
lol no

>> No.14866599
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>>14866552
Well it says "in" a cube, "in" A, so the rules given are not clear enough. So how's this, I choose the center of the cube, right in the middle. If the bug is on the outside and cannot get inside the cube he will never reach that point. If the bug is inside the cube, assuming he cannot fly, he cannot reach the point from either of the walls unless he climbs to the top and falls from the ceiling, which would still take him the longest. This is obviously some bullshit riddle rather than an actual math problem

>> No.14866612

>>14866599
Ya, I've suggested that a few times so far. OP bailed though, he's busy at a """meeting""" getting dicked by a bunch of syphilitic lepers.

>> No.14866616
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14866616

>>14866288
lit should be purged

>> No.14866621

>>14866612
OP doesn't know the answer because the answer doesn't exist. That's why it's a bait image and no one will agree on any take on it as a legitimate.

>> No.14866624

>>14866616
quite literally everyone in this thread said it was B

>> No.14866625

>>14866288
Do you send equations to poetry contests?

Why are you asking /lit/ to do /sci/ things?

>To test /lit/'s IQ
Do you need this to feel superior?

Post your writing.

>> No.14866635

>>14866616
Says Satan.

>> No.14866640

The IQ test is how long you will be willing to spend on this intentionally retarded question. Everyone still in this thread with < 4 layers of irony fails the test

>> No.14866649

>>14866616
This is more elegant, I was just brute forcing with coordinates.
From symmetry considerations, you know you will at most go through two of the faces and only the three faces not cl gaining A can be considered. You then add the length of the two line segments, posing the coordinate (only one to look for) of the intermediate point as new variable. From any given point, you then have the optimal path for any given point on the surface of the cube by differentiating this function by the new coordinate. You solve a basic bitch second degree polynomial equation and realize the sum of the two lengths abive is a linear function of the coordinates of the point to reach.
Hence B.

>> No.14866651

>>14866330
>If IQ
>Question should be clear

No. Bad grammar brings the supposed meaning into doubt.

We are working with our best guess what the question wants.

Math is supposed to be exact; this is half way to being a riddle.

>> No.14866658

>>14866640
Do you solve rubix cubes by saying all configurations are unique, therefore QED solved?

>> No.14866659
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14866659

>>14866288

>> No.14866664

>>14866288
The bug doesn't even move at all.

>> No.14866674

>>14866659
You placed B wrong it should be one higher also it’s not a cube

>> No.14866681

>>14866288
I pick the center of the cube let's see how the stupid bug gets there

>> No.14866702

>>14866674
I was just showing my answer where B would be for it to be correct.

>> No.14866710
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14866710

>>14866674
Also, it's a cube's net surface area as a 2D representation.

>> No.14866744

What's 2+2?
It's not 4.

>> No.14866753

>>14866702
But that's in the same square/face of the cube

>> No.14866809
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14866809

>>14866288
If B is (0,0) and the top of the box stretches from y=1 to x=1, C, the furtherst away from A, is in x=y=sqrt3/(2*sqrt2). Here the bug will have to go over a corner.

>> No.14866817

Here is a tricky one, only 0,2% of people can figure this one out, it's not as simple as it seems at first glance.

If you have two oranges and you acquire two more oranges, how many oranges would you have?

Hint: it's not four.

>> No.14866824
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14866824

>>14866809
Then the bug will have to go this far. Been a long time since I've done any math, so messy notation. I messed up my copy of Moby Dick for this so it better be right.

>> No.14866844

>>14866744
2+2=5
t. Winston Smith

>> No.14866845

>>14866616
not the shortest way to b.

>> No.14866854

OP here. Are you guys prepared to see the actual answer?

>> No.14866859

>>14866854
sure

>> No.14866863

>>14866859
It's B.

>> No.14866872

>>14866863
good 1 dude, hehe xd baited literally no one with that

>> No.14866876

>>14866817
Obviously the answer is two. Litlle known fact the "More Orange" is not actually an orange, but a legume.

>> No.14866878
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14866878

>>14866744
22

>> No.14866892

Making the answer image in paint. Will be ready in 3mins.

>> No.14866931
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14866931

Here you go /lit/. I'm honestly saddened to see nobody was able to solve it. As you can see, this question has an actual point that's 1/(2sqrt(2)) further away from A than B. Small amount, but a nonzero amount nonetheless.
I'm not providing the proof for now but if you really want i can explain it later.

>> No.14866943

>>14866330
>However, if you have above average IQ, the question should still be clear.
It's pretty clear where you are in the IQ range if you believe that.

>> No.14866952

>>14866931
>Going the roundabout way to increase distance
Kys

>> No.14866957

>>14866931
retard

>> No.14866989

>>14866952
>>14866957
What would be a faster way to get to C then? What's the distance between A and C according to you?

>> No.14866999

>>14866989
Look at the second part of your own picture dumbass. C is obviously closer than B to A.

>> No.14867004

>>14866999
Trips of retardation. No it's not. The closer path to B is through the third part of my picture, in which C is further away from B.

>> No.14867012

>>14866989
Make the sides a b AC
A =1-x
B =3-y
AC = root 1-x + root 3-y
No matter what poor you pick there it's less than
Ab = root 1 + root 3

>> No.14867019

>>14866999
The thing is you pick the sides along which you travel and the distance will always be the shortest path.
In the middle diagram of my picture, the length from A to B is sqrt( 10) while in the right part it's sqrt(8) so the distance between A and B is sqrt(8).
Meanwhile whatever path you choose from A to C the distance is still sqrt(8 + 1/8), which is larger than the distance from A to B. It's OK, not everyone is born with above average intelligence like me.

>> No.14867022

>>14867012
Can you please draw a diagram to explain what you mean?

>> No.14867027

>>14866354
>The distance from A to A is arbitrarily small.
You don't know what arbitrary means do you.

>> No.14867039

>>14867027
What I meant, in precise terms, is that for arbitrarily small distance, you can find a curve of that distance from A to A along the surface of the box. If you're not allowed the constant curve, then the distance in terms of nonconstant curves is not defined, since there are curves of arbitrary small length but never 0.

>> No.14867044

>>14866957
Do you disagree that the shortest path from A to B is of length sqrt(8) or do you disagree that the shortest part from A to C is of length sqrt(8+1/8). I can prove both of these facts for you if you want.
>retard
Talk about projection...

>> No.14867063

Its hilarious to see /lit/ get mad over the fact that they don't know or understand the answer. Instead of accepting that there are things they don't know or understand, they instead try to argue that math itself is wrong.

>> No.14867067

>>14867044
>>14867039
>>14867019
>>14867022
>>14866931
Anon... I'm sorry to tell you this but I think your view of the "truth" doesn't collide with the rest of humanity anymore... in other words. You have schizophrenia and should seek treatment ASAP. You are a danger to others and yourself!

>> No.14867068
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>>14867022

>> No.14867072

>>14867067

Its a well known mathematical puzzle you dunce.

>> No.14867081

>>14867067
I am extremely clear headed. Challenge me on any point I made. I am prepared to defend it very rationally.
>>14867068
I think you forgot the Pythagorean theorem. It should be sqrt( (1-x)^2 + (3-y)^2 ) instead of sqrt(1-x) + sqrt(3-y).

>> No.14867085
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>>14866931

>> No.14867087

>>14867004
But the bug has to take the most direct path to any chose point, right?

>> No.14867092

>>14867081
it does not matter how you solve it its still shorter...because the numbers are smaller

>> No.14867097

>>14867068
>>14867081
Also your main mistake is not the one I mentioned here. Your actual mistake is thinking that the distance in one chart (the middle chart) being higher means the actual distance is higher. The middle chart is just one way you can choose the path, you also have to look at the right part of the diagram. To get the distance, you take the minimum distance of both parts.
In your case, to get the distance from A to B we don't look at the middle part, but rather the right part, because there the distance is smaller and is in fact sqrt(8).
I hope that clears things up.

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>> No.14867103

>>14867087
It can take any path it likes.
The distance between two points is the minimum length of all the paths it could take between the two points.
Hence the distance between A and B is sqrt(8)
and the distance between A and C is sqrt(8+1/8)

>> No.14867104

>>14867097
kys

>> No.14867107

>>14867104
Lol that's what you get when you try to explain a simple concept to a moron. They shriek and scream in pain as their ego is hurt by the the fact that they can't grasp a simple concept.
Need a little more help buddy?
Which part of what I said confused you so much?

>> No.14867111

>>14866288
Nice cube, faggot

>> No.14867116

>>14867111
>faggot
That's a new one.

>> No.14867127

>>14867072
>>14867081
You are a fucking retard trolling and killing a thread for this shit in which you obviously are trying to garner attention or are just so stupid that you actually believe it's not b.
Check these please and do a reality check:
https://puzzles.nigelcoldwell.co.uk/three.htm

https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1683905/how-to-find-the-shortest-path-between-opposite-vertices-of-a-cube-traveling-on

>> No.14867129

So far I got
>replies calling me bait
>replies calling me a fag
>replies calling me a schizo
>replies with wrong claimed refutations for which I pointed out the mistake
And yet I've yet to see a reply from someone admitting they were wrong or thanking me for the explanation. The rumour actually seems to be true. Except these smart posters
>>14867072
>>14867063
/lit/ truly seems to be all pride and no intelligence. SAD!

>> No.14867135

>>14867127
You're on /lit/, yet your reading comprehension is nonexistent. Look at the links you've posted. Seriously, open them and read them. If you haven't noticed it let me point it out for you. In those websites, the PROBLEM IS DIFFERENT. They're dealing with a 1x1x1 cube, and NOT a 1x1x2 box.
>you're a fucking retard
Thank you!

>> No.14867142

>>14867127
he is clearly trolling tho

>> No.14867145

>>14867127
no u are a fucking retard those links are irrelevant to OPs problem

>> No.14867149

>>14867142
I am not trolling. I have shown you the answer, proved repeatedly that the distance is indeed longer from A to C than from A to B, yet you still call me a troll? Why must you morons torment me like that with your ignorance? You're not even trying to figure out why you're wrong and ask me questions about my own solution. Really sad!

>> No.14867150

>>14867127
>>14867142

Is it really that hard for you to accept that you aren't omniscient and there exist things you do not understand?

>> No.14867173

>>14867149
>>14867135
Idk mate, it must be aspergers, especially considering the way you talk. Like why do you even bother us with this? What do you get from it? Even if you were right it would be because of a niche mathematical problem which your dad probably gave you when you were 4 before he went to spank your ass after failing to solve it for 10 years or something like that.

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>>14867145
>>14867150

>> No.14867179

>>14867149
why would i choose a second path to the point when the fist one is clearly sorter.

>> No.14867185

>>14867173
It's not a niche problem, it's just a puzzle. A simple brain-teaser to test /lit/ ability to think. I'm bothering with this because I had fun solving it! So maybe others would have had fun too. Apparently not on /lit/ LOL. Also I get to feel smarter, which is also always fun.
>>14867179
To get the distance between two points you choose the shortest path.
Which pair of points are you talking about now? A&C or A&B?

>> No.14867193

>>14867185
ac its clearly shorter in the first path. No matter how you spin it. But then you add the second path to the point and somehow that increases the distance

>> No.14867197

>>14866931
I pasted your "proof" to Gimp, measured your line from A to C, and measured a line from A to B. The latter was longer. Difficult problem to solve.

The retards replying to obvious bait are invited to do the same rather than continue wasting their time. This is my last post in the thread.

>> No.14867200

>>14867193
What are you saying is the smallest length of a path from A to C? Show me how you calculate it.
The point of the different diagrams is that you can choose different sides along which to travel. Once you made that choice, there is only one shortest path, namely after unwrapping the sides on the plane you just take the straight line as I did in the picture.

>> No.14867202

>>14867197
Anon, I think you're missing the point. The diagram is there just to help visualize, the box is actually 3d not 2d. My drawing is inaccurate - I didn't bother making the length ratios exact. Yet my calculation still holds since they don't depend on the drawing.

>> No.14867215

>>14867200
yea the fist line ac clearly has the shorter path, and its less than ab. im not even sure how that is even in debate. since the longest sight line in any rectangle is the diagonal, and AB is that since ac in inside the rectangle its clearly shorter than ab

>> No.14867222
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>>14867150
>>14867202
Hope you got your attention, faggot.

>> No.14867232

>>14867215
In the middle diagram it's shorter. But that doesn't mean it's actually shorter, since the distance between A and B in the middle diagram is not the actual distance between A and B, you have to look at the shortest distance, and the shortest distance is in the right (3rd) diagram where the distance between A and B is sqrt(8).
>>14867222
What's going on in the picture?
Is the black line going through the box?

>> No.14867255

>>14867232
That finally make sense.

>> No.14867257

this is actually the most retarded thread that has ever been posted in this shitty website ever.

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>>14867255
That's really awesome anon! I'm glad to have taught you something new!
>>14867257
Do you still not believe the answer I gave?

>> No.14867332

>>14867068
Ops right and got you all to rights. Stop blaming him for your midwit.

>> No.14867342

>>14867332
>>14867263
That said, take a second to write normal questions and explanations, your presentation is like reading chinese

>> No.14867347

>>14867103
>It can take any path it likes.
No, that's where you are wrong, it has to take the shortest path.

>> No.14867360

>>14867347
And as both paths in the op to c are the same length, it doesn't matter. But if you go on the second way to b you get a shorter path than c.

>> No.14867368

>>14866288
You call it a cube
But it's actually a rectangular prism.
LOW IQ MISTAKE

>> No.14867383

>>14866288
It's A because that's where the bug is at so it will never reach A.

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>>14867342
Here, I made my own version. It's now more correct, but also a little bit more autistic and arguably harder to immediately understand. How would you formulate the question?
>>14867368
It's a 1x1x2 box.
>>14867360
The second way to b has length sqrt(8) while the shortest path to C has length sqrt(8+1/8).

>> No.14867389

>>14867383
Wrong. The bug immediately reaches A because it starts on A. The distance between A and A is 0.

>> No.14867392

>>14866330
>I didn't produce this image and you're right, it contains typos
It's not typed.

>> No.14867394

Does the bug travel at a constant velocity?
The question is how long it takes, so we must know the nature of the bugs movement before solving this. If it was a mere question of distance that would be different.

>> No.14867396

>>14867385
is the trick here that the bug can't travel along the bottom square because it's on the ground? or would that even matter

>> No.14867400

>>14867385
This is also bad

Your command of the English language is quite poor desu

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>>14867385
A new version.

>> No.14867409

>>14867401
Are you an ESL teaching assistant or something? Are we helping you make a homework problem for your students?

>> No.14867411

>>14867400
Then make your own version and show me how you would formulate it.

>> No.14867419

>>14867409
>ESL
Yes
>homework problem
No.
If your command of the English language is better please show me how you would formulate the question. I'm eager to see it.
It seems to me that there is a tradeoff between being easy to interpret (or as you call it, a good command of English) and being precise to avoid morons ITT who attack every single detail that's not made 100% explicit.

>> No.14867438

>>14867401
wait what, is it surface now?

>> No.14867445

>>14867438
Of course. What, did you think the bug can fly or dig through the box?

>> No.14867447

>>14867385
>>14867401
>Here's a new version of the problem 160+ replies later.
OP is as faggot (OP has always been a faggot)

>> No.14867449

>>14867447
>faggot
That's a new one.

>> No.14867452

>>14866288
A

>> No.14867456
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14867456

>mfw reading all these absolutely TRIGGERED mathlets
>>14867019
this was a nice diversion from regular /lit/ shitposting

>> No.14867459

>>14867445
the last one quite LITERALLY said IN the box.
it's in the middle of the backside of the box not true btw

>> No.14867464

>>14867456
Thanks. Since you seem reasonable, do you also believe that these
>>14867401
>>14867385
are very poorly worded as other anons pointed out? How would you formulate the problem?

>> No.14867468

>>14867449
cope harder, your riddle was so shit you had to revise it because it could have been interpreted in a number of different ways, yielding a number of correct answers based on the interpretation.

>> No.14867471

>>14866931
this is not right

>> No.14867477

The point which will take the longest to reach will be the one the bug avoids the longest.

>> No.14867496

>>14866288
what's important is the friends the bug makes along the way

>> No.14867497

>>14867468
>your riddle was so shit
Not my riddle, I reposted the image I found on /sci/. There everyone seem to have understood the puzzle perfectly well, unlike on here. It's starting to seem to me that anons here only pretend that the puzzle was hard to understand to mask their inability to solve it.
Like I said before, what did you think, the bug can fly or dig through the box? It's intuitively obvious (as it was to me when I first saw the problem) that the bug has to stay on the surface of the box.
Also the cube/box distinction is just stupid. There is a diagram right there, wow congratz you pointed out that it's actually not a cube, how genious of you. The measurements are right there, and I bet if you showed this to an average Joe on the street they would understand it just like I did.

>> No.14867499

>>14867464
>How would you formulate the problem?
Now we get to the root of why you are really here. You can't put a coherent sentence together and need help

>> No.14867505

>>14867471
Why not?
>>14867496
Didn't expect a wholesome post!

>> No.14867509

>>14867499
What does it say about /lit/ that a thread made by someone who can't put a coherent sentence together got 178 replies by 53 different anons?

>> No.14867514

>>14867263
>Do you still not believe the answer I gave?
>posts pic that dispores it
???

>> No.14867520

>>14867505
>Why not?
it's already been pointed out

>> No.14867526

>>14867520
I have posted refutations of all the objections to my solution. Do you have anything new to add?

>> No.14867530

Probably learn English before trying this

>> No.14867531

>>14866288
You can't make a bug take the longest way when the philosophy of the bug is that it will always take the shortest path.

>> No.14867534

>>14867526
where's your refutation to a literal 3d representation? >>14867222

>> No.14867535

>>14867464
>A bug is sitting on a box at point A. You want to feed it. Where on the box should you place the food in order to make the bug walk the furthest possible distance to reach the food? The bug has 140+ IQ and always takes the shortest path to reach any point.

>> No.14867536

>>14867530
My English is better than yours, Mohammad. Maybe you should pull your head out of your arse.

>> No.14867540

>>14867534
I asked him what is going on in the picture and he stopped responding. Perhaps you have an explanation?

>> No.14867541

>>14867536
It's impossible to judge a persons English skills just by the little sentence he provided.

>> No.14867544

A

>> No.14867554

>>14867497
>what did you think, the bug can fly
many bugs have the ability to fly
>dig through the box
if the bug was inside the box it wouldn't have to dig at all
>It's intuitively obvious (as it was to me when I first saw the problem) that the bug has to stay on the surface of the box
It's not obvious at all unless stated.

Lets review the problem as originally stated.

>There is a bug in A. Which point in a cube you should choose in order to make a bug takes longest time to reach there? Hint: Not B *Assuming bug takes shortest path from A to the point you choose

Lots of ambiguities here. First you say that the bug is IN A. This to me would imply the bug is inside the object. Second you say which point IN a cube should you choose. This implies you can choose a point in space withing the object, not necessarily restricted to the surface of the object. Third, you ask to solve for longest time to reach that point, not the longest distance to the point. You're leaving the door open for all sorts of different interpretations.

Can you see now why so many people concluded that you are a homosexual?

>> No.14867558

>>14867541
That's because you don't speak English very well.

>> No.14867573

>>14867554
As I said before, I didn't make the image in the OP. When I saw it I immediately understood what it was asking. Perhaps if you had an above average IQ like me you would have understood it too.

>> No.14867576

>>14867540
it's pretty self-explanatory, the black line shows the direct pathing the bug would take, the "Dist: xxx in" shows the distance in inches, so you can clearly see that the point B has the longest.
Red, blue and green lines shows the equation.
also, the OP image and the one you posted later were two different ones, the first one said the bug was inside the box, not outside.

>> No.14867585

>>14867558
No, the reason is that I'm not socially retarded to judge someone's English skill based on one sentence.

>> No.14867587

Alright, that's it. We've had our fun. I'm leaving the thread. Based on the responses I've got, I estimate the IQ of /lit/ to be around 85. Not bad, not great.
Cya!

>> No.14867588

>>14867573
The text in the original image is very, very poorly written, if you read that drivel and though "yes, this makes perfect sense. There is no other way this can be interpreted" you probably have a similar IQ to the idiot who came up with it.

>> No.14867597

Reminder that OP opened the thread 5 hours ago and he's STILL posting.

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>>14867554
>thinks the shortest distance would change if the bug could fly

>> No.14867622

>>14867605
The ability to fly would absolutely make B the correct answer. Forcing the bug to traverse the surfaces of the object fundamentally changes the problem

>> No.14867627

>>14867597
He hasn't convinced everyone he's fucking retarded yet so I say he keeps posting

>> No.14867678

>>14867509
holy FUCKING based. every anon itt needs to be culled from the board. thanks for your containment thread op

>> No.14867713

>>14867622

Nigger are you retarded? Any distance done flying will ALWAYS be longer than a distance traversed over the surface of the object, so its completely irrelevant. Even if the bug can fly, it would choose not to fly.

>> No.14867719

>>14867587

Thanks for exposing /lit/ OP. It was a fun thread seeing these mathlets seethe.

>> No.14867721

>>14867622
a flying bug's path between two points on the cube would have a corresponding projection path onto the surface of lesser or equal length

>> No.14867728

>>14867622
Nope. Post whatever you think qualifies as proof.
But I know you won't, because you can't. In fact I'm certain you have no idea how to calculate the shortest distance between any two points on the box.
>forcing the bug to traverse the surfaces
But you're quite skilled at padding your statements in order to sound smart, which is why you're uniquely qualified to participate in the fanboy-tier debates that ravage this board.

>> No.14867745

>>14867713
not if the bug is INSIDE the box, read the original question "A bug is IN A..."
>>14867721
>>14867728
see >>14867222
we're trying to find the max distance here, not the minimum distance. Within the confines of the box A to B is the max distance that can be traveled.

>> No.14867772

OP is right though.
Consider the following 2D reasoning.
Going to point B over the sides is a distance of sqrt(8) (If you reduce it to a path of a 2x2 square)
Going to point B over the top plane, however, is a distance of sqrt(10) (If you were to reduce it to a path on a 1x3 rectangle)

Because these paths are different lengths, there is a point that exists on the top plane "between A and B" (which sounds counterintuitive) with a length between sqrt(8) and sqrt(10) which is the true longest path from A.
I can't be bothered with finding it mathematically but it should follow from this description that point B is indeed not the longest path.

>> No.14867787

>>14867772
It was never stated that the you have to go over the sides or constantly maintain contact with the surfaces of the box.

>> No.14867790

>>14867772
Dumb faggot. Stop samefagging and learn learn to speak English.

>> No.14867808

>>14867790
My first post in the thread la
You seem tilted

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>>14867808
This thread devolved from someone asking an innocent grade 10-11 brain teaser, to /lit/ards getting massively triggered from being reminded of how little they know about the world they live in.

>> No.14867867

>>14867745
>we're trying to find the max distance here, not the minimum distance. Within the confines of the box A to B is the max distance that can be traveled.

mdr

/lit/ might actually be dumber than I previously thought

>> No.14867939
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14867939

The bug is on the dot after A in "There is a bug in A."

>> No.14867948

>>14867867
what about this >>14867222 is unclear? It's pretty obvious that B is the farthest possible point from A.

>> No.14867959

>>14867939
Sorry I meant the bug must go to the dot after A in "There is a bug in A."

>> No.14868010

>>14866288
math is fucking gay as shit. who gives a fuck about this robot field?
now get the fuck out of this board you useless faggot.

>> No.14868217

>>14866288
Is this an example of how to phrase a question in the worst way possible?

>> No.14868223

>No ones posted an algebraic analytic solution
kek

>> No.14868236

distance formula hard

>> No.14868419

>>14868223
go ahead fellow mathchad. there's no point because OP already posted what looks like the answer>>14867068 and like me he probably didn't bother posting the solution cuz the brainlets on here don't even understand the premise of the question

>> No.14868427

>>14868419
>mathchad
>can't see that he literally fucked up

>> No.14868579

>>14868427
kek you're right, i was too lazy to read that shit
but the diagram itself represents the right idea, you have to solve for the critical point that minimizes the function of x and y
t.confirmed mathlet

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14869068

Now if we carefully analyze the question we are never given a specific bug which is in the box. For this reason we are going by default the fastest bug in the world which is the Horse-Fly. The Horse-Fly is however only capable of travelling its 90 mph while flying, while crawling the speed of the horsefly is considerable less. According to the specified rules of the problem, the insect MUST take the shortest distance to the chosen point. Since the shortest path to point C involves climbing a wall diagonally means that the fly is incapable of flying, as a result that would take considerably more time then any other solutions. However we never factored in the duration of time which the bug has spent trapped in it's cubic prison, since the problem proposed by OP is most likely at least several days old, the fly would've already died since they are only capable of surviving roughly 4 days without food. As a result we must consider other factors in which the bug could reach point C, considering that the adult fly can lay up to 600 eggs, we shall assume that there are 599 other eager horseflies outside the box willing to help out their fellow brother. Now the average horse-fly is able to lift 10 milligrams which is not extremely impressive, multiplying this by 599 we get 5.99 grams. Assuming the cube is made out of glass (since you wouldn't be able to see the fly otherwise), and assuming that the distance unit is in centimeters we end up with the glass box roughly weighing 390 grams. This would normally be a problem but considering that the horsefly reproduces once per year, the amount of flies would actually be 599^2 which would result in the flies having a combined force of 358 grams which may just be able to tip the box causing the dead original fly to land in spot C, as a result we must revise our original equation. Since we know the formula of falling is MGH we can derive that the furthest point for the bug to reach is indeed point B.

>> No.14869124

>>14866348
that's not a fucking typo you blithering fuck. the picture simply does not depict a cube

>> No.14869229

you all proved how low your IQ is by replying to this thread, including me for wasting my time to point this stupid shit out

>> No.14869236

>>14869229
And yet it's still not B.

>> No.14869375
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Trivial. The real answer is point D and it will take an infinite amount of time.

We begin by forcing the bug to undergo a wick rotation. This action converts the euclidean topology into a minkowski-space manifold, creating the option to place our point along the temporal axis. The advantage of this proves obvious, as the length along the fourth axis is the selected datum upon which our solution is measured, so we simply plot D an infinite length along this temporal axis in order to create a path that will take an infinite, and thus the longest, path possible. I have decided to call this point Delta, for obvious reasons.

I am beyond your pitiful mind games, insect.

>> No.14869391

So the bug is Achilles and the point is the turtle?

>> No.14869411

>>14866414
>>14866419

Wtf, OP never responded to these two. Fucking bait ass thread.

>> No.14869759
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14869759

so... it was a troll all along
here is a picture and a numerical proof, all paths are accounted for by these 3 paths
there is no possible longer/shortest path. fuck off OP

I wish I knew how to prove it formally/more generally for all solids/paths. It's actually really complex and must involve some kind of intersection between a plane and the solid.

>> No.14870299

Hey smart lit.

>In a nation’s struggle

What is 's used here, is it a contraction - then for what word?
I need to find the logic of transforming those cases into expanded English format, I need this for a toy project I'm working on where I automatically extract clauses, topics etc. of sentences.. realized it's useful and makes me read stuff more carefully.. found this by accident, while trying out a Bible software - Logos, where every phrase, every clause, every single grammatical element was split apart visually, could tag and search by and had definitions and logical operators to toy around.

Excuse me being this ignorant, I have learned English through World of Warcraft and never took formal training for the standard grammar.

>> No.14870395

>>14870299
It is not a contraction, the apostrophe indicates that the struggle 'belongs to' the nation.

>> No.14870397

>>14870395
ah so it indicates possession - but that means I have to rephrase it whole, can't just replace it wit ha word or standard phrase. Kind of hard to programmatically do it.
Ty anon!

>> No.14870405

This is not an IQ, it's a lame math question.

>> No.14870591

>>14866354
>The distance from A to A is arbitrarily small
Just say 0 man.

It's B. End of discussion.

>> No.14870632

>>14866288
>say it's not B
>everyone can see that it clearly is B, because space diagonal is longest route

>> No.14870652

>>14869759
A = 0 <= x <= sqrt(a^2 + b^2 + c^2) = B

>> No.14870851

Are you trying to ask which vertex is the farthest from A?

>> No.14871251
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How will /lit/ ever recover after this thread?

>> No.14871994

>>14867222
This shits all over OP.

There is a shorter way to get to C he's ignoring for some reason to pretend its a puzzle when it isn't.

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>> No.14872156

>>14866288
It's B.