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Brothers. I have discovered and understood that consciousness/awareness is without parts and thus non-dual. For one cannot split his awareness into the hating and the loving, into the perceiving and the not perceiving, into the seeing and the blind, into the ignorant and the enlightened. It is all non-dually without parts and thus immaterial. I have finally refuted materialist doctrine with the help of contemplating upon Guénon. I have escaped the spiritual desert...

I sincerely thank all of you who helped me on my path.
Peace and blessings be upon you.

>> No.14842566

Daleel please

>> No.14842591

Guenon was a French loser who just wanted to fit in. He Was such a pushover he would get converted into every and any random ideology. Imagine unironically believing in a lesser version of Christianity.

>> No.14842620

>>14842591
He wanted to belong to a proper authentic tradition, that does not mean that he was a pushover.
He ruthlessly destroyed theosophy because he saw it for what it was.
Actually Guenon was one of the most principled men in history.

>> No.14842650
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>>14842558
non duality is an idea from the indian philsophers who tried to salvage the vedas after buddhism and all they came up with is mahayana.It is pure retardation and 100% wrong view, so of course it pleases the midwit bourgeois full of spleen.

>> No.14843214

Based...

>> No.14843274

non dualism is quiestist heresy.

>> No.14843277

>>14843274
quietist*

>> No.14843298
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14843298

Is Avshalom Elitzur right about dualism?

http://cogprints.org/6613/1/Dualism0409.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXX-_G_9kww

>> No.14843315

>>14842558
>Prose and jargon that say nothing of substance make me smart

>> No.14843739

>>14843298
>literally has "shalom" in his name
I'm going to assume not...

>> No.14843741

>>14842558
based, may the rest of the board be blessed with such illumination
>>14842650
That's simply incorrect anon, the pre-Buddhist Upanishads like the Brihadaranyaka and Chandogya Upanishads already talk extensively about non-dualism and the Atman being Brahman. It is a teaching which long predates Buddhism and in fact Buddhism was heavily influenced by it, most of the core teachings of Buddhism like the 4 truths etc appear first in the early pre-Buddhist Upanishads.

>> No.14843747

>>14842558
Will and Awareness are the fundamental components of consciousness. To see and to want to see. To see your own want and to want to see your own want.

>> No.14843753

>>14843298
>trusting a Jew

>> No.14843925

>>14843747
>Will and Awareness are the fundamental components of consciousness.
Will is observed as an object of consciousness and thus cannot be a fundamental component of that same consciousness

>> No.14843928

>>14842558
What proof is there that consciousness is everywhere?

>> No.14843936

>>14843925
Will is apart of consciousness as everything is

>> No.14843941

>>14843925
>awareness is observed as an object of the willing consciousness and thus cannot be a fundamental component of that same consciousness

>> No.14843967

>>14843941
>awareness is observed
it's not though. you can't observe the thing which is observing

or maybe you can idk philosophy is gay

>> No.14843974

>>14843967
You can. If you couldn't you wouldn't know that you have awareness. You just can't do it reliably through that same awareness.

>> No.14844005

>>14842650
>midwit bourgeois full of spleen
>not Buddhist
Oh I’m laffin

>> No.14844015

>>14843741
>most of the core teachings of Buddhism like the 4 truths etc appear first in the early pre-Buddhist Upanishads.
Oh no no no

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>>14843741
That is not believed by anyone other than internet advaitins. You are the Mormons of Hinduism. Even other Hindus just see you as westernized and buddhized heretics.

>> No.14844056

>>14843741
>most of the core teachings of Buddhism like the 4 truths etc appear first in the early pre-Buddhist Upanishads.
Also source?

>> No.14844077

>>14844056
It's like saying Aquinas' Aristotelian metaphysics was "already in" the book of Genesis. See >>14844026 for how Advaita is just a Mahayana ripoff.

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14844090

can we get a solid definition of non duality?

>> No.14844097

>>14844026
internet advaitins utterly destroyed!

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>>14842558
Highly based. (pbuh).

>> No.14844138

The mind body problem is only a problem is you’re a dualist. Either materialism or idealism must prevail. There can be no compromise. All other solutions are half solution.

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>>14844056
>>14844015
The pre-Buddhist Upanishad verses already talking about the 4 noble truths are cited in this picture

>> No.14844361

>>14844186
Buddhists completely and thoroughly annihilated!

>> No.14844610

A true essence beyond difference and distinction is also beyond unity.

>> No.14844745

>>14844186
Wasn't upanishads established 5k before it was ever written?

>> No.14845073

>>14844361
Based!

>> No.14845848

>>14844026
>The pre-Buddhist Upanishads don't talk about non-dualism and they don't say that the Self is Brahman, that's just a fringe interpr-

"That Self is indeed Brahman"

- Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 4.4.5.

"An ocean, a single seer without duality becomes he whose world is Brahman, O King, Yajnavalkya instructed. This is his supreme way. This is his supreme achievement."

- Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 4.3.32.

"He who is the sole creator, whose desires are the desires of all, whose odours are the odours of all, whose tastes are the tastes of all, who is everywhere, who has no sense organs, and who is free from desires—he is my Self and is in my heart. He is no other than Brahman. When I leave this body, I shall attain him.

- Chandogya Upanishad 3.14.4.

"Then, this person, who is the embodiment of happiness, emerging from the body and attaining the highest light, assumes his real nature. This is the Self. It is immortal and also fearless. It is Brahman."

- Chandogya Upanishad 8.3.4.

>> No.14845853

>>14845848
Buddhists exposed and humiliated

>> No.14845870

>>14844026
>Hare krishna spotted

Hare krishnas are known for their vitriolic attacks on advaita vedanta

>> No.14845897

>>14845870
Funny that advaita vedanta is on the same level as hare krishna then, in the eyes of everybody else. Weird that the two pseudo-hinduisms hate eachother.

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>>14842591
>>14842650
>>14843315
>>14843928
>>14843967
>>14844005
very cringe...
>>14842558
>>14842620
>>14843214
>>14843936
>>14844103
>>14844361
>>14845073
>>14845853
holy based...

>> No.14846778

>>14844610
There is no 'unity of Brahman', It is 'one alone, without a second' as the Chandogya Upanishad says. Unity implies a relation of unity between parts whereby they become united but Brahman is partless.