/sffg/ - Science-Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.14832209]

Wish fulfillment edition


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[Anonymous No.14832219]

Didn't realize the last thread was pretty much dead.
I need the most batshit insane novel you can think of, I'm talking Mike Kirkbride getting high on cocaine and writing about a dude getting his hands cut off so he's better at debating an autistic robot god to death levels of "what the fuck am I reading?"

[Anonymous No.14832247]

>>14832219
https://archive.org/stream/manga_Faust/Faust%20-%20Volume%2001%20[Scans][Original]#page/n143/mode/2up
Drill Hole In My Brain

[Anonymous No.14832334]

I haven't been able to find anything as good as Chronicles of Amber for 2 years

[Anonymous No.14832351]

I bought a complete(?) set of this series at a thrift store without knowing anything about them, are they any good?

[Anonymous No.14832375]

>>14831000
The Quantum Thief triology

[Anonymous No.14832380]

Are there any good new-ish mecha books, preferably ones where the mech is sentient? I tried this one and it's okay but it feels like a pilot episode rather than a proper book

[Anonymous No.14832407]

>>14832380
No you queer

[Anonymous No.14832418]

>>14832375
The Golden Age > The Quantum Thief (which is still good).

>>14832334
What else have you read? Particularly "classics" that you found disappointing.

[Anonymous No.14832423]

>>14832380
Murderbot

[Anonymous No.14832482]

>>14832209
Is the pic from Fostering Faust? The Count's Bodyguard?

[Anonymous No.14832499]

/sffg/, i keep feeling like im not writing my characters correctly, like im either ignoring their personality traits or apeing them. how do I write them better?

[Anonymous No.14832503]

I read Cugel the Clever recently. What are some other books with sneaky protagonists?

[Anonymous No.14832547]

>>14832482
I believe it's Valeria from Tsun-Tsun TzimTzum

[Anonymous No.14832638]

>Once more I am burdened with unwanted responsibilities, hedged by considerations other than my own desires, trapped by emotions which we of Melnibone have been taught to despise.
My albino boy cannot catch a break.

[Anonymous No.14832696]

>>14832638

[Anonymous No.14832701]

Decided to finish this after all, and now I'm interested in getting something a bit more... recent? All I can think of is Ready Player One, and I don't think I'll really enjoy that.

Are there any, not necessarily cyberpunk, but books about what people thought the internet would or could be? Maybe from the mid 2000s or so? Anything from after the advent of smart phones? Or anything that predicts them?

[Anonymous No.14832702]

>>14832499
Write out a fictional interview for them: what they want, why they want it etc etc

[Anonymous No.14832714]

>>14832701
I recall Ender's Game or one of the sequels had an internet related B plot that looks pretty odd now.

[Anonymous No.14832722]

>>14832380
Depends on how new you wanted, but I remember reading this and his other book a bit back. They're... pretty mediocre at best, but they might scratch your itch. The first one is basically a "candidate for the goddess" style anime in book form.

[Anonymous No.14832876]

>>14832209
BOOK CLUB SELECTION:
Gideon the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir
https://mega.nz/#F!O1cFiKaS!hPf1KFnauX7PSaM5PJE3QA

Discussion will be held in thread at the end of the month.

[Anonymous No.14832893]

>>14832701
Altered Carbon is the most recent popular cyberpunk I've heard of.

> mid 2000s
The matrix trilogy.

[Anonymous No.14832971]

>>14832876
no idea what that is but sounds a bit different at least. i guess i'll try it since came to this thread to find something randomly

[Anonymous No.14833162]

>albino emo reader shills his trash multiple times a thread in the hopes that people will read it with him
No, we will not.

[Anonymous No.14833186]

>>14833162
>we
It's just me and another guy who happen to be reading it at the same it. I'm not trying to shill anything or irk anyone.

[Anonymous No.14833271]

>>14833162
I've already read it last year.
also Elric needs no shilling, it's the prime example of what dark fantasy is supposed to be.

[Anonymous No.14833280]

>>14832503
Cugel's Saga

Dragon masters by Vance also has a protagonist just as clever but virtuous rather than selfish

[Anonymous No.14833289]

>>14833271
Is that an Elric Manga?

[Anonymous No.14833296]

>>14833280
Not that guy, but can you jump into any point in the Dying Earth series or do you have to start from the beginning? They aren't really all related to each other right?

[Anonymous No.14833311]

>>14833296
>They aren't really all related to each other right?
Not really, there's only like a couple of em

>>14833271
Where can I find Elric novels online? For free obviously

[Anonymous No.14833341]

>>14833311
In the /lit/ sticky

[Anonymous No.14833378]

>>14833341
danke very mucho

[Anonymous No.14833379]

>>14833289
No, it's the cover for the japanese edition of the first Dorian Hawkmoon book.
>>14833311
Mobilism, but you need to register first.
and this >>14833341

[Anonymous No.14833382]

1st person or 3rd person

[Anonymous No.14833394]

>>14833382
3rd limited 4ever

[Anonymous No.14833433]

>>14833311
In the OP of this thread.

[Anonymous No.14833450]

>>14833382
1st, 2nd and 3rd person narration all in the same book, which was a mildly interesting part of The Broken Earth Trilogy

[Anonymous No.14833523]

>>14833382
>>14833394
This and other answers are wrong.
>in the book store looking around
>a title catches my eye
>read the back and it piques my interest
>cue cautious optimism and open it up
>its in 1st person
Disgusting. I'd have thrown it in the trashcan if the store had one near me

[Anonymous No.14833615]

A journey of a million li starts with a single flying sword

[Anonymous No.14833744]

>>14832380
all the ones I have read are trash. try playing Mecha Ace an interactive sci-fi novel by Paul Wang. It has that gundam feel

[Anonymous No.14833802]

>>14833296
Cugel's Saga is a direct sequel to Cugel the Clever/Eyes of the Overworld and is better read sequentially. The others are stand alone

[Anonymous No.14833808]

>>14832696
Ah! Just finished that. He'll never be able to rest will he? Very good book indeed, packed with action. We had a new crossover episode, even if this time we only got holding 'hands' instead of a monster with eight legs and eight arms lol. We are getting closer to the end, and I'm sure we'll have some chaos vs law battles soon. I felt bad for Myshella and the bird, that Theleb K'aarna is nasty af. Better villain than Yyrkoon. Anyway I'm starting the Bane of the Black Sword right now.

[Anonymous No.14833909]

>>14833280
Awesome, thanks. I thought Jack Vance mostly wrote sci-fi.

[Anonymous No.14833975]

New cradle when?

[Anonymous No.14833989]

>>14832351
No

[Anonymous No.14833990]

>>14832696
This prose is horrible

[Anonymous No.14834050]

>>14833975
About 6 months. He wants to finish his other series finally.

[Anonymous No.14834410]

>>14834050
Who reads his other series baka

[Anonymous No.14834446]

>>14834410
A small dedicated group of people who hound him on his website and his email

[Anonymous No.14834540]

>>14832351
I read the first one a long time ago and thought it was a cut above the usual YA.

[Anonymous No.14834548]

???

[Anonymous No.14834551]

>>14832334
Same. Zelazny became my favorite author and everyone else was just meh. So I read a bunch more Zelazny.

[Anonymous No.14834602]

>>14834548
He isn't cute enough for me to ignore the dick qnd fuck.

[Anonymous No.14834645]

Are there any good SFF novels with qt traps?

[Anonymous No.14834655]

I'm beginning to lose faith that I'm ever going to enjoy writing fantasy again

[Anonymous No.14834734]

>>14834602
Fairly sure its a girl. I could be wrong tho.

[Anonymous No.14835064]

I remember a blogpost or something with tips for writing webnovels linked here, but I can't find it. Anyone got it handy?

[Anonymous No.14835309]

>The drive to the hotel that morning all he could listen to was the radio repeating the news of President Kennedy being assassinated the day before.

[Anonymous No.14835316]

https://youtu.be/yHKKtxliYaY

[Anonymous No.14835404]

>>14835316
good reminders, thanks

[Anonymous No.14835515]

>>14834645
Yeah, sounds like Bakker is right up your alley.

[Anonymous No.14835833]

>>14832701
Rainbow's End

It absolutely blows as a novel but he's surprisingly on point with some of his ideas about how the internet would evolve

[Anonymous No.14835869]

Read all five books over the last few weeks, nice to get some answers but the clumsy Christian allegories spoiled it a bit.

[Anonymous No.14835973]

>>14832714
Ender's Game's "take over the world by shitposting all night" subplot is more relevant now than it has ever been.

[Anonymous No.14836660]

>Books 1-3: Mostly high fantasy adventuring. Going from island to island, meeting new people, avoiding danger. Speaking with and defeating dragons and dark spirits. High kings, mysterious wizards, dark rituals, etc
>Currently halfway through book 4
>written as a feminist critique of woman's life in their fantasy world
>page after page of how horrible being a widow with children out of the house is and how people dismiss her
>most interesting thing that has happened actually happened in book 3, but seen from her point of view
>hasn't even left her own island
>main hero from first three books is now old and infirm and she takes care of him
Honestly the fourth book isn't bad, it's just such a shocking change from the first three books. It's an entirely different genre. After reading the first book, I bought the next five because I loved it so much. But I hope 5 and 6 aren't like this.

[Anonymous No.14836669]

>>14836660
Forgot my image, which makes this post nonsensical

[Anonymous No.14837048]

I'm thinking about reading A Song of Ice and Fire, but I've seen the show, and knowing things that will happen kinda takes away my will to read the books. Is ot worth it?

[Anonymous No.14837069]

>>14837048
Yes, because the show created new things and ignored things as early as the first episode. By the third book there's tons of stuff you haven't seen.

[Anonymous No.14837076]

>>14835869
I'm a Christian and I'm interested.

[Anonymous No.14837161]

>>14837076
The prose is quite heavy, probably not what you're used to.

[Anonymous No.14837169]

>>14837069
That's great then. If there's new stuff then it's worth the read.

[Anonymous No.14837194]

>>14837161
If he can read the bible then he can read botns.

[Anonymous No.14837234]

It's March.
What are you expecting to be released this month?
What new book are you currently reading?

[Anonymous No.14837648]

>>14837048
There's an entire major plot line and character that's completely removed from the show and has major ramifications from being removed from the show. Knowing what the "end" of the TV show is and how GRRM said his ending is essentially the same lets you extropolate just how much shit they changed to make it make sense with the TV.

Without spoiling it, characters like Cersei, Tyrion, Bran, and even Dany have completely different motivations and stories in the back half of the series compared to what they will have in the books.

[Anonymous No.14837692]

>>14833808
I finished Bane, I'm pretty hyped about starting Stormbringer.
About the epilogue of Bane: Elric's new life is obviously going to burn down horribly but my fear is for Moonglum, I hope for the unlikely event he'll stay alive and in one piece.
Rackhir saving both Tanelorn and that booty was pretty boss.

[Anonymous No.14837828]

>>14832380
Pyscho Nymph Exile was fucking intense.

[Anonymous No.14837939]

>>14837234
> What are you expecting to be released this month?
Winds of Winter

[Anonymous No.14838151]

My boy Sorweel did it! The absolute mad lad...

[Anonymous No.14838179]

>>14832219
Radix

[Anonymous No.14838294]

>>14838151
Sorweel more like CHADweel.

[Anonymous No.14838344]

>>14838151
Who's that?

[Anonymous No.14838460]

>>14837048
It will never be finished there's really no point in reading it unless you want to talk about it with your irl friends.

[Anonymous No.14838748]

After 2 and a half years I've started the 14th book in the wheel of time.
not worth

[Anonymous No.14838777]

This is excellent. Especially in light of current events.

[Anonymous No.14839079]

>>14836660
>Honestly the fourth book isn't bad
It really is

[Anonymous No.14839101]

>>14839079
Yea since I had that post I read another 3 chapters. It's getting worse by the page.

It's really sad because I loved the first three books.

[Anonymous No.14839134]

>>14839101
It killed any desire I had to read further in the series. I don't know that I'll ever bother.

[Anonymous No.14839799]

>>14838344
From Bakker’s sequel series

[Anonymous No.14839931]

>>14838777
I was pretty pissed about everything that happened offscreen w/ a shrug killing the loli

[Anonymous No.14840115]

The fourth book is the best one

[Anonymous No.14840167]

>>14839931
fuck off pedo

[Anonymous No.14840168]

>>14837234
>What are you expecting to be released this month?
already read Pale Light in the Black which was a fun enough time, sorta like if someone wrote military scifi but about firefighters (coast guard is the in book comparison but I think the latter works better)
Prob not one for most posters here though since it mentions gender pronouns a bunch.
Also read the first chapter of both Mazes of Power and Black Leviathan but not sure if I'll carry on with them yet.

The latter is in plot basically Moby Dick with dragons and I'm still reading the prologue about why our Ahab standin goes loopy.

[Anonymous No.14840238]

What do you do with books you don't want anymore? Sell them, donate them?

[Anonymous No.14840242]

>>14840238
let them gather dust on my shelf

[Anonymous No.14840513]

The first two books were great, so why can't I bring myself to finish Mona Lisa Overdrive?

[Anonymous No.14840741]

Is Prattchett sci-fi?

[Anonymous No.14840782]

>>14840167
hurr only pedos care about children

[Anonymous No.14840787]

>>14840782
>children
That's not what you called them, pedo.

[Anonymous No.14840888]

>>14832380
>sentient mech
>>14832423
>human-presenting AI
turbo plebs. it's taking almost everything truly interesting about the concepts and flushing them down the fucking drain.

[Anonymous No.14840923]

I like how sffg reflects real life.
As the general dies and become a ghosttown, so does the world.

[Anonymous No.14841020]

>>14833271
I've tried and tried to get in to Michael Moorcock's stuff but just can't do it. It's too heavy handed for me, and not in the fun way other Sword and Sorcery can be. He just doesn't seem like all that great a writer, I read somewhere he often cranks out a book in a few days to a week and it kind of shows.

I will say that his nonfiction stuff is decent, Swords and Dark Wizardry, his history of fantasy and it's influences is worth a read.

[Anonymous No.14841211]

Are there any good horror novels that are set inside a fantasy world? Most horror novels have small elements of fantasy in them I'll grant you but I'm more looking for a full on fantasy world but written more as a horror story.

[Anonymous No.14841223]

>>14840513
Sequelitis. Count Zero had all new characters except for Finn's guest appearance, it expanded the cyberspace ideas a lot, and I'd argue it was better written. Mona Lisa Overdrive drags the same characters back in for another story with the same concepts as last time. I liked the tone/atmosphere of MLO but it was a let down. Then I really wanted to like the Bridge trilogy but it was like a bad spinoff tv show set in the same world with characters and plot that were shadows of the original series

[Anonymous No.14841266]

Any books with a modern, conteporary setting, but where the characters do scifi things?

[Anonymous No.14841430]

>>14841266
How contemporary? What kind of tech levels would you like to see? My idea for a novel is centered around an alternate history Cold War where they're just beginning to construct permanent structures on mars/moon

[Anonymous No.14841740]

thanks for recommending these /sffg/, got any more fantasy with romance and sex?

[Anonymous No.14841804]

>>14841266
That's kind of vague. You could try Cryptonomicon, The Inverted World, The Lathe of Heaven, Roadside Picnic, Childhood's End (the first third), The Gentle Seduction

[Anonymous No.14841844]

>>14832696
People actually read this shit?

[Anonymous No.14841863]

>>14832418
Not OP but Hyperion. Wtf was that

[Anonymous No.14841866]

Do people actually like drizzt? I know it's based on the DD morality system but I didn't expect the characters to be this static and one dimensional over the course of a dozen plus books. You're literally reading only for the plot at this point.

[Anonymous No.14841899]

>>14838748
Should have figured that out after eye of the world

[Anonymous No.14842059]

>>14841866
I don't know what you were expecting with a book series written by D&D players who were just novelizing their campaigns.

The Black Library stuff is actually interesting because GW hired real authors and not larpers.

[Anonymous No.14842073]

>>14840513
>>14841223
You should read The Difference Engine. It has a very cool thing that happens that no book reviewer seems to understand but it is high concept.

[Anonymous No.14842278]

>>14841844
Dark fantasy?

[Anonymous No.14842336]

>>14842073
Feel free to spoiler it. I tried reading it once but couldn't get into it, not sure if I'll give it another try. It lacked Gibson's old flashiness and Sterling is better at shorter forms and non fiction, his work is full of ideas but his narratives aren't engaging at length

[Anonymous No.14842444]

>>14841804
I mean like a story that takes place in the modern era, buta single or group of characters discovers/invents scifi stuff

[Anonymous No.14842449]

>>14842073
The ending is kinda cool but not worth enduring the rest of the book for

>>14842444
Roadside Picnic or Lathe of Heaven then

[JN !!vXXhA/qzhjm No.14842635]

>>14836660
Yeah, I couldn't make it through #4. Sometimes a change from fantastic to mundane can be cool but it seemed like she just ran out of ideas. Let us know if you like #5 and #6.

>>14837161
IMHO it's not heavy so much as rambling. I always had to keep going back and re-reading paragraphs to stay on track.

[JN !!vXXhA/qzhjm No.14842643]

>>14832701
>Are there any, not necessarily cyberpunk, but books about what people thought the internet would or could be? Maybe from the mid 2000s or so? Anything from after the advent of smart phones? Or anything that predicts them?

Empire and Babel-17 by Samuel Delaney

[Anonymous No.14842673]

>>14836660
I'd heard that it takes a turn like this, so this confirms it. When I read it I'll just read 1-3 and then stop. I don't have any patience for obviously feminist crap.

[Anonymous No.14842694]

If someone can indulge a newfag: b-ok always tell me I've downloaded five books already for today, do I have to use a specific vpn or what?

[Anonymous No.14842708]

>>14842694
>do I have to use a specific vpn or what?
just rest your ip. they keep track of specific ips. if you wanna get around it reset your ip address or pay for a b-ok account.
that being said. library genesis has everything b-ok has and more.
you can reset your ip by unplugging or turning off your router and modem and turn it back on. some even allow you to do via a script.

[Anonymous No.14842726]

>>14842694
a free b-ok account gives you 10 downloads and might solve the problem, or use libgen.

[Anonymous No.14842736]

What is the Dark Souls of sffg?

[Anonymous No.14842753]

>>14842736
Probably Book of the New Sun.

[Anonymous No.14842816]

About to start The Great and Secret Show by Barker. Weaveworld was decent and this one sounds like an interesting trilogy the only issue is that there doesn't seem to be any plans to release the third book after nearly 30 years. What are some books or series that are stuck in limbo? Hardmode. No Ice and Fire or Kingkiller.

[Anonymous No.14842846]

>>14836669
No, I knew exactly what you meant.

[Anonymous No.14842897]

Are there any books like pic related?

[Anonymous No.14843007]

>>14836660
>>14836669
>>14842673
Man, looking at Amazon, even the current editions of the first three novels come with a "new afterword" full of political crap (pic related is from book 1). What the fuck is wrong with these people? Shit like this destroys any of the magic in a book, in my opinion, but maybe that's the point of including it. I think I'm going to look for an older edition of the first three.

[Anonymous No.14843032]

>>14843007
She went off the rails hard after her feminist awakening. Pic related from her essay on Cordwainer Smith where she's astonished a man doesn't feel the need to swing his balls around 24/7.

The first three Earthsea books really are great though. I'd also recommend the first three Hainish books + Dispossessed (Left Hand of Darkness is overrated) and her shorts of really any era, she never figured out how to totally suck with those.

[Anonymous No.14843093]

>>14841020
Morecock is a shit writer. It's one guy that was shilling and pushing him hard in the general recently. I think it's the same guy that was shilling conan for a while a few months ago.

[Anonymous No.14843168]

>>14842897
theres a bunch of myst books. theyre kinda similar.

[Anonymous No.14843172]

>>14843032
>feminist awakening
She always was a feminist. Just not one of those radical nu-age feminists that want to castrate men for existing. No idea how she fell in with that crowd.

[Anonymous No.14843187]

>>14843172
Before '77 she was a Taoist first and a feminist second.

[Anonymous No.14843211]

>>14837692
So I take it that you have finished it by now? I'm going to try and end the saga today as well. Dyvam Tvar death was so inglorious though, he deserved more. At least his kid is helping out Elric now. How weird was the meeting between Elric and Zarozinia? Hey, we just met but I love you and we will marry soon. Lmao. I liked the fact that the sword returned for the castle by itself.

>>14843093
I doubt there's any shilling going on. It's just me and another anon reading the saga at the same time and using the general to discuss it as we go. And he's not shit, it's fun and an easy read.

[Anonymous No.14843213]

I'm writing a rgrounded fantasy novel where a self-conscious but exceptional teenager travels the world and kills God.

How many romantic interests should she have?

[Anonymous No.14843221]

>>14843213
Twenty virile black men.

[Anonymous No.14843225]

>>14843168
Thank you, I'll check em out

[Anonymous No.14843243]

>>14840238
Mostly donate.

[Anonymous No.14843265]

>>14840513
I found MLO to be better than CZ, especially the parts with Molly and Slick.

[Anonymous No.14843337]

>>14840167
>>14840787
Hello, reddit

[Anonymous No.14843361]

>>14840923
>0.2% mortality rate for people under 40
I'm sorry hapooner but sadly world is still getting more and more packed with people any way you slice it.

[Anonymous No.14843369]

>>14841866
Change is a quality onto itself, but yeah those novels aren't all that great. The original trilogy and the prequel trilogy is OK, later books were a chore.

[Anonymous No.14843380]

>>14842708
For newish sff it's the other way round, or at least in my experience b-ok had more of the titles I was looking for.

[Anonymous No.14843381]

>>14843337
Hello, pedo

[Anonymous No.14843393]

>>14843361
defeatist attitude

[Anonymous No.14843463]

>>14843211
I'm just at the beginning, I plan on finishing it in the next few days. Tvar and Zirozinia felt kind of random, yes.

[Anonymous No.14843530]

>Morecock
>More
>Cock

[Anonymous No.14843692]

>>14843530
It's Moorcock lol.

[Anonymous No.14843694]

>>14843093
Moorcock and Howard are relics of a time past. They can be appreciated for what they are without being unnecessarily harsh. I get that they're not to everybody's taste, but you have to keep that context in mind.

[Anonymous No.14843726]

>>14842736
Malazan Book of The Fallen would be my vote. It really depends on what you want from the comparison. The Dark Souls experience started with Demon's Souls for me. It gave me the experience of beating my head against a wall until I learned that the game really wasn't that hard to get through. I was just doing it wrong because the game didn't fit my previous training and expectations. The atmosphere, lore, and world building kept bringing me back. In such a sense, I feel Malazan is the Dark Souls of fantasy literature. The first book filters out readers much like the souls games filter out gamers.

[Anonymous No.14843743]

>>14838748
I actually enjoyed A Memory of Light more than most. The last battle feels particularly epic even though Brando Sando does make me feel a little like I'm watching an anime cartoon at times. In the end, the WoT books were a great experience for me. The writing and editing quality are questionable, but I've also never felt so immersed in a single world. I didn't even feel this way about Tolkien.

[Anonymous No.14843746]

>>14843381
You're pretty obsessed, newfriend.

[Anonymous No.14843881]

>>14843381
Hi fren

[Anonymous No.14843883]

>>14832219
late PKD

[Anonymous No.14843907]

>>14842726
>>14842708
>>14842694
>has a download limit
>wants you to pay for it
>requires registration
Into the trash it goes in comparison to those that has none of these and does better. The /lit/ sticky was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.14843924]

>>14843907
supposedly b-ok uses money from premium accounts to bribe officials to look the other way when copyright issues are brought to them.
i say supposedly because theres no proof of it really but since b-ok is hosted in china theres a good chance its true.

[Anonymous No.14843959]

>>14843907
>not using IRC
>not using libgen
your conception was a mistake

[Anonymous No.14843965]

>>14843959
not him but libgen is dead

[Anonymous No.14843975]

>>14843965
no it is not
some of the sites it links to are sometimes

[Anonymous No.14844011]

>>14843975
huh, i cant reach it at all

[Anonymous No.14844058]

>>14844011
Mate just google libgen and go for the first option, it's the only one I use and I never had any problems with it.

[Anonymous No.14844125]

>>14843959
>not being literate and realizing that's what I was arguing for

>>14843924
>thinking that's a good thing

[Anonymous No.14844142]

>>14844125
mfw so illiterate I used the first link in the sticky and not just the second

[Anonymous No.14844162]

>>14844142
#bookz is inferior. Still a mistake.

[Anonymous No.14844187]

Haven't been here in a a while, why did the OP format change?

[Anonymous No.14844197]

>>14844187
Because I felt like it. No other reason. It's probably changed multiple times since you've last seen it. It'll change again.

[Anonymous No.14844375]

>>14844011
The site has 'died' for me a couple times, I googled and found their new url.

>>14844187
We have a different OP.

[Anonymous No.14844430]

>>14844187
No one's revolted yet

[Anonymous No.14844471]

what did i just read

[Anonymous No.14844477]

>>14844430
I'll revolt against myself.

[Anonymous No.14844534]

five years in, it still surprises me nobody here calls him Branderson

[Anonymous No.14844562]

>>14844534
>>/lit/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=branderson

[Anonymous No.14844607]

>>14844471
looks like you read jungle bunny booty, what do you think you read

[Anonymous No.14844675]

>>14837828
>Reading tranny shit

[Anonymous No.14844690]

any good sffg books featuring femdom? askin for a buddy o mine

[Anonymous No.14844707]

>>14844690
Discworld

[Anonymous No.14844852]

>>14844562

[Anonymous No.14844857]

>>14844852
i liked elantris

[Anonymous No.14844897]

>>14843530
What's funny about your pic is that it's a boy dressed up as a girl calling others degenerate.

[Anonymous No.14844915]

>>14844897
wrong character, Maika is sweet and pure and 100% genuine lady

[Anonymous No.14844985]

>>14842736
The Night Land and Lord Dunsany

[Anonymous No.14845083]

>>14843743
I can agree. At times the books made me so annoyed I would drop them for months on end, but the world stuck in my head so much I would come back at the end of the day.

[Anonymous No.14845093]

akka is a cuck
das rite

[Anonymous No.14845191]

>>14844690

Sword of Truth series has like 80 pages of femdom in it...it's actually what I hate about the series

[Anonymous No.14845219]

>>14841211

Dungeon and Dragons used to have a Ravenloft setting. It's fantasy with horror, but the horror is not that horrific. Having said that though Knight of the Black Rose is a fantastic book that fucked me up during my teens. Not sure how I would feel about it now, but yeah, it was pretty good and grim.

[Anonymous No.14845239]

>>14844985
I've never read anything written by Lord Dunsany. What do you recommend to start?

[Anonymous No.14845240]

>>14845191
>21 books
>only 80 pages of femdom
dude wtf thats almost nothing

[Anonymous No.14845261]

>>14843213
How central is the romance to the story?

[Anonymous No.14845272]

My magical realism/horror novel has a 20 page gay gangrape scene, is that too much?

[Anonymous No.14845275]

>>14843213
>she

[Anonymous No.14845281]

>>14845272
Not enough

[Anonymous No.14845293]

>>14845272
how do you even make a scene that long

[Anonymous No.14845429]

>>14845239
Gods of Pegana or the Sword of Welleran

[Anonymous No.14845440]

>>14845293
Very carefully

[Anonymous No.14845455]

>>14845440
teach me how to lenghten my scenes senpai

[Anonymous No.14845464]

>>14845455
Go read VNs that have porn scenes that are like an hour long each, and just copy that but with more exposition to make up for the lack of art.

[Anonymous No.14845471]

>>14845464
oh, not just porn, i was talking in general

[Anonymous No.14845519]

>>14845272
>My magical realism/horror novel has a 20 page gay gangrape scene, is that too much?
Is the bottom a femboi trap?

[Anonymous No.14845554]

>>14845519
I got the idea from that scene in Subahibi where the protagonist's bullies make him dress as a girl and masturbate in front of them and then force him to suck their dicks before beating him unconscious.

[Anonymous No.14845569]

>>14845275
what's wrong with women?

[Anonymous No.14845575]

>>14843213
>I'm writing a rgrounded fantasy novel where a self-conscious but exceptional teenager travels the world and kills God.
>How many romantic interests should she have?
She only needs Jesus in her life.

[Anonymous No.14845576]

>>14845569
Love triangle of 1 female, multiple males = bad
Love triangle of 1 male, multiple females = good

[Anonymous No.14845582]

>>14845576
based

[Anonymous No.14845592]

>>14845576
this

[Anonymous No.14845598]

>>14845576
It's not like she fucks all of them, she just contemplates it on the adventure while psyching herself out and acting all sour grapes towards the clear option-- sort of a Katniss-Peeta situation. Resists going with the local chad because some side comments of people flat out saying its inevitable

[Anonymous No.14845605]

>>14845554
>I got the idea from that scene in Subahibi where the protagonist's bullies make him dress as a girl and masturbate in front of them and then force him to suck their dicks before beating him unconscious.
I haven't coomed in an hour or so, so that's pretty hot at the moment.

>>14845576
Yeah, that's just natural for men. I honestly don't get how the (tranny?) anons on /a/ can stand shoujoshit otome isekais etc. with reverse harems.

[Anonymous No.14845606]

>>14845598
Reading stuff like that makes me feel like I'm getting cucked so I don't like it.

[Anonymous No.14845623]

>>14845605
>I haven't coomed in an hour or so, so that's pretty hot at the moment.
Go read it then, it's one of the best VNs by far. It's about Wittgenstein's Tractatus.

[Anonymous No.14845726]

How would /sffg/ handle writing a male who pines after a girl that has no romantic feelings for him whatsoever, and in actuality only seems like a perfect fit because of his general undersocialisation?

[Anonymous No.14845741]

>>14845219
Dungeons and Dragons still has a Ravenloft setting. Though it's kind of one-note since every campaign in it has the same villain: edward cullen's edgy brother strahd von zarovich

>>14845576
>Love triangle where I have a harem = good
>Love triangle where I'm part of the harem = bad

[Anonymous No.14845742]

>>14845726
does she end up liking him?

[Anonymous No.14845756]

Who reading this when it comes out?
What you think it will be about?
You think he is just writing the same characters with different skins?

[Anonymous No.14845757]

>>14845741
>>Love triangle where I have a harem = good
>>Love triangle where I'm part of the harem = bad
Exactly. I don't want to read that shit.

[Anonymous No.14845781]

>>14845726
my diary desu

[Anonymous No.14845798]

>>14843746
Not really, someone refers to children as 'lolis' and I call them pedos. The sun shines and the grass grows

[Anonymous No.14845810]

>goodreads recs are no good
>make a shelf of books to try and get recs from that
>it draws all the recs from the first book I put on the list and somehow ends up recommending cookbooks in response to a scifi novel

ahh I just want to find new stuff to read

[Anonymous No.14845812]

>>14845742
yes but she only starts to like him romantically after he's moved on emotionally

[Anonymous No.14845841]

>>14845812
lame

[Anonymous No.14845885]

>>14845756
>Who reading this when it comes out?
Me, as soon as it's uploaded somewhere.
>What you think it will be about?
I think it will be about that archangel of retribution mentioned in the last Incubus Inc., probably reincarnated/amnesia'd
>You think he is just writing the same characters with different skins?
Meh, I like his characters so I couldn't care much less about whether they tend to be a bit samey.

[Anonymous No.14845891]

>>14845726
>>14845812
Does she fuck someone else?

[Anonymous No.14845899]

>>14845812
very nice
the longer the mc is a loser, the better
helps to self insert

[Anonymous No.14845927]

>>14845899
why would you ever enjoy being reminded of being a loser even in fictional worlds? wouldn't you rather escape from that?

[Anonymous No.14845951]

>>14845927
I just can't relate to any of the other stuff, so the loser-potential state feels better

[Anonymous No.14845955]

>>14845810
What did you read and liked? Goodreads is good to keep track of what one reads but they mostly recommend popular stuff.

[Anonymous No.14845970]

>>14845951
whatever floats your boat i guess...

[Anonymous No.14846001]

There's this fantasy book I read a long time ago that I can't remember the name of for the life of me. I was hoping someone here could help.

The only things that really stick out in my memory is that it opens with a human and a dwarf scaling a mountain to slay a dragon. I'm pretty sure the rest of the book focuses on that human's ancestor, but with the same dwarf.

[Anonymous No.14846032]

>>14845891
Starts down that path slowly, but thats distinct from anything else happening

>>14845899
>>14845927
Part of the message is that the guy is sort of passive and shit just happens to him. Over time he develops some initiative and by the time the girl is impressed with him, he's matured into somebody that knows what he wants in a partner.
The girl isn't the type of person he desires, and that's totally fine since different people want different things.

[Anonymous No.14846036]

>>14846001
The Hobbit

[Anonymous No.14846044]

>>14845810
Have you tried looking at what /sffg/ has read and liked?

[Anonymous No.14846080]

>>14846032
ok, i might give it a go if by the end he finds a much better girl which reciprocates, while the original crush has every misfortune possible befall her

[Anonymous No.14846167]

>book has a master manipulator type villain
>he's not in perfect control because the book uses realistic speed of communication for medieval fantasy
honestly this really fun to read and something more books should play around with

[Anonymous No.14846176]

>>14846167
>it’s another old drunken veteran is pulled out of retirement for one last job protagonist
I’m so tired of this, young ranger and rebel tomboy protags

[Anonymous No.14846183]

>>14846176
yeah because fantasy has a such a lack of young protagonists

And it's less old veteran than old show pony, the protagonist's peak didn't consist of much more than dueling for sport.

[Anonymous No.14846200]

>>14846167
for a second i thought this was about dragon riding confederate soldiers annexing all of central america and i got slightly excited

[Anonymous No.14846217]

>>14846183
>yeah because fantasy has a such a lack of young protagonists
He is tired of young rangers and rebels tomboys, too, not just older protagonists.

[Anonymous No.14846230]

>>14846036
No.

[Anonymous No.14846285]

>>14845471
in general add sex to a scene to make it longer

[Anonymous No.14846303]

>>14845810
Goodreads has recs?

[Anonymous No.14846483]

>>14846032
Is the girl going to be a recurring character? Personally I don't think you should drag that plot point out for too long. Just show that she has a thing for him but he no longer gives a single fuck about her and move on.

[Anonymous No.14846769]

>>14845191
I remember being scarred by that shit when I was a kid. I felt like Sword of Truth kind of started out like your typical fantasy series and then bitch slapped readers with weird porn fiction.

[Anonymous No.14846930]

>>14842336
Okay, but THIS IS A SPOILER you've been warned:

Ada Lovelace's "Modus" program is the macguffin everyone's trying to get because they think it will predict markets or enemy military maneuvers or perform another kind of magical calculation. Instead it's a program that does some kind of recursive self-introspection and likely becomes artificially intelligent in a crude way. When run on France's "Grand Napoleon" engine it renders the machine useless. It's stuck in an unfathomable, self-sustaining calculation. The machine can't be re-tasked or even even reset.

In the last two paragraphs we see the far-flung steampunk future of 1991 where a calculating engine is somehow built on such an enormous scale it can support true artificial sentience. The last few lines are the description of its moment of awakening to self-awareness.

I mean, I think it's pretty straightforward. But every book review I've read doesn't understand it.

[Anonymous No.14847029]

>>14844690
wot

[Anonymous No.14847248]

>>14846303
it has "readers also enjoyed"

[Anonymous No.14847261]

>>14844471
was it both elegant and exuberant?

[Anonymous No.14847282]

>>14841740
just read outlander

[Anonymous No.14847307]

>>14844471
nice black booty

[Anonymous No.14847386]

>>14847248
>make a shelf of books to try and get recs from that
>it draws all the recs from the first book I put on the list

that doesn't sound like the 'also enjoyed'

[Anonymous No.14847395]

>>14846930
I don't mind spoilers, I actually flipped to the end of Difference Engine when I dropped it. I understood what was going on but I didn't think that much of it. It was basically the end of Neuromancer again.

[Anonymous No.14847396]

>>14847386
i know but the readers also enjoyed is occasionally useful

[Anonymous No.14847474]

>>14845810
List them or link it and we'll give you suggestions. Or shit on your pleb taste.

[Anonymous No.14847496]

>>14843213
Two is fine: a leader of men type, and a brooding loner type. You can also add a beta orbiter nerd.

[Anonymous No.14847598]

>>14843213
Two chicks

[Anonymous No.14847834]

>>14846930
It was such an incredibly boring book. Almost no computation related stuff, just a macguffin.

[Anonymous No.14847848]

>>14847261
No, just experimental author wank. I found the way illustration was used as part of the story interesting, but overall it was an incoherent trip.

[Anonymous No.14847882]

>>14845726
You've got to be aware that just because someone understands their attraction is illogical and based on an ideal doesn't mean it will magically go away. There is nothing worse than a dramatic arc concluding with the main character going "Oh I guess I was retarded and will just change overnight now that I'm aware of it"

In reality (and in fiction) these kind of relationships just don't go anywhere because they will always be based upon a lie and will never be equal

[Anonymous No.14848609]

Anyone know some sci-fi works that fit this criteria?
>primarily focused on the ships/exploration
>no goofy plots about some radical new discovery
Basically something close to a SoL where you can tell the writer is jerking off to how much he loves ships and weird planets.

[Anonymous No.14848650]

is there such a thing as good litrpg, or are they inherently self indulgent garbage?
pic related

[Anonymous No.14848689]

>>14848609
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murasaki_(novel)

[Anonymous No.14848690]

>>14848650
It mostly depends on personal taste

[Anonymous No.14848708]

>>14848650
Depends on what you want out of it. Generally speaking the less spreadsheets there are the better the story.

[Anonymous No.14848725]

>>14845726
comedy: then he shoots up the school
tragedy: he finds a girl who likes him for who he is but she's an uggo and he settles

[Anonymous No.14848768]

>>14843726
this has to be a parody

[Anonymous No.14849070]

>>14847248
I think that is slightly bugged/has a bad algorithm.
There is a separate recommendations section under browse but I wonder if they were messing with that because mine has been completely reset.

[Anonymous No.14849224]

>>14848609
Sounds like you want kancolle, in space

[Anonymous No.14849249]

>>14848609
Known Space short stories

[Anonymous No.14849346]

>>14843007
>>14843032
You're allowed to not read the afterword, anon. It's just there so publishers can justify the new edition. Only university students scrounging for quotes for that essay due tomorrow actually go through them.

[Anonymous No.14849355]

>>14845726
How is it /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.14849395]

>>14832209
Is Guy Gavriel Kay any good? I'm kinda intrigued by some of his stuff

[Anonymous No.14849425]

>>14849395
At times I wish he'd write straight-up historical fiction since the fantasy elements are mostly barely there and I find myself continually making the substitutions for the actual names of people and places. He's also a tendency for melodrama and the emotionally overwrought.

Having said all that yes he's still very good and the settings are convincing despite or maybe even become of their obvious real world analogue. Lions of Al-Rassan the one I enjoyed the most, I haven't read all his stuff.

[Anonymous No.14849437]

>>14849425
The real-world-but-not-really setting was the main draw for me, thanks

[Anonymous No.14849445]

>>14849355
All the female characters are clones of his mother.

[Anonymous No.14849769]

>>14848768
No, it's a sincere reply to a comment. If you have something to add to the discussion, feel free to do so instead of being a worthless twat.

[Anonymous No.14849771]

>>14844471
I don't know, but I do know that cover is so excellent I want to read it too. I miss paperbacks with cover art that made you want to pick them up.

[Anonymous No.14849791]

>>14845191
The femdom and rape are the best parts of it desu, otherwise it's like a terribly written anime series.

[Anonymous No.14849821]

>>14849771
Those kinds of covers were the whole reason I started reading novels as a kid. It's no surprise to me that boys barely read anymore with the neutered mass market paperback covers we see now. I remember being shocked to find out that girls were now much more into reading than boys. You see shit like Harry Potter and Twilight take off and make millions, but there really is nothing like that for young men. I can't even name a single major franchise that has been targeted solely to men of any age.

[Anonymous No.14849849]

>>14849821
the future is so bright i don't need eyes to see it
https://www.goodreads.com/genres/most_read/fantasy

[Anonymous No.14849900]

My story is becoming a little too degenerate, maybe I should take out the incest.

[Anonymous No.14849908]

>>14849900
>take out the incest
No.

[Anonymous No.14849926]

>>14849908
I probably won't since the protagonist is supposed to fall into a spiral of complete degeneracy and what better way to do that than have him become a literal motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.14849929]

>>14849900
what type of incest are we talking about?

[Anonymous No.14849995]

>>14849926
>becoming a little too degenerate
>since the protagonist is supposed to fall into a spiral of complete degeneracy
You're just here procrastinating

[Anonymous No.14850025]

>>14849900
>>14849926
When I look at the wreck of a person that is my mother, I just can't consider a Chad making his beautiful mother his woman degenerate in comparison.

[Anonymous No.14850033]

>>14849929
Mother and son

>>14849995
True, but it's not like I'm in a rush to finish this. It's just something I'm writing for the fun of it when I'm not busy with work.

[Anonymous No.14850037]

>>14850033
ew, a child fucking his parent is arguably even worse than ntr

[Anonymous No.14850044]

>>14849395
>>14849437
I only like tigana. Everything else of his I read was too low magic to even be considered fantasy.
He is the type of author snobby people like outer /lit/ and others that try to imitate a "patrician" air would read. It "fantasy" without any actual substantial fantastical elements.

[Anonymous No.14850051]

>>14850044
>Everything else of his I read was too low magic to even be considered fantasy.
Even the Fionavar trilogy?

[Anonymous No.14850054]

>>14850037
Different strokes for different folks. Also it's fiction, incest is disgusting irl in 99% of cases but in a fantasy setting where a guy can have a 10/10 mom then it's fine. On the flip side I will never understand the appeal of NTR.

[Anonymous No.14850059]

>>14849821
>I can't even name a single major franchise that has been targeted solely to men of any age.
pierce brown's stuff arguably, though i'm sure plenty women read it.

[Anonymous No.14850061]

>>14849926
>>14849929
>>14850025
Why is it that the people that want to fuck their mother or sister, can't? I like incest stories or hentai, but I wouldn't fuck my sister /mother even if they spread it for me. They just aren't attractive.

[Anonymous No.14850064]

>>14850054
>incest is disgusting irl in 99%
um ill let you know that actually the love between a brother and his sister is the purest and most blessed form of incest

[Anonymous No.14850069]

>>14850054
>I will never understand the appeal of NTR.
Depends who you self-insert as.

[Anonymous No.14850071]

>>14850051
I only read three books by him. After the shit storm that was a ghost following a gril around I dropped him as an author forever.

[Anonymous No.14850084]

>>14850069
Yes, but reading about someone cheating on their husband for dick should give you feels.
Unless you're a home wrecker irl, and you get off on fucking your best friend's, father's, brother's wives?

[Anonymous No.14850086]

>>14850071
>After the shit storm that was a ghost following a gril around
Elaborate?

[Anonymous No.14850089]

>>14850061
People are generally smart enough to separate what they fap to and real life. I've fapped countless incest doujins/hentai but the thought of actually doing anything with my mom makes me gag. Now if I had a hot stepmom or mother in law that'd be a different story. Also like you mentioned fictional moms usually look young as fuck and are usually built like a brickhouse, real life moms are just frumpy and old. The hot mom/sister thing is wish fulfillment because a lot of guys wonder what their life would be like if they grew up with ridiculously attractive family members.

[Anonymous No.14850102]

>>14850086
Her ancestor spirit.
Go read it if you like low, barely there magic. I read fantasy for fantastical shit, not low level shit.

[Anonymous No.14850106]

>>14850102
We're talking about Tigana, right?

[Anonymous No.14850118]

>>14850089
I don't think you understand. If my mom was attractive I would have tried to fuck her. It's not that I don't find her attractive, it's that she is a 4 or a 5. If my mom worked out and dressed slutty I would have tried to let her catch me masturbating like the movie kevin.

[Anonymous No.14850124]

>>14850106
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25938417-children-of-earth-and-sky

[Anonymous No.14850127]

>>14850084
Inserting as the homewrecker is about power, if you ask me. You've taken control of someone's life by taking from them a person they cherish. You've proven to them that you are the superior male, etc... Assuming you take it seriously.

On topic, can anyone suggest a relatively near-future military sci-fi book in the vein of Tom Clancy? I'm trying to write something similar set in a world where the UN has collapsed all the major superpowers are licking their wounds after a serious but non-nuclear world war and I need ideas to steal.

[Anonymous No.14850129]

I love when this place turns into incest discussion.

[Anonymous No.14850152]

>>14850127
If you want military sci-fi, Neal Asher, Bv Larson.
Agent Cormac, Undying Mercenaries.

[Anonymous No.14850159]

>>14850129

[Anonymous No.14850173]

>>14850129
>I love when this place turns into incest discussion
This general is where the GRI APPROVAL standard was formed. You think we wouldn't have many cultured minds that have nuanced thoughts and ideals on the topic?

[Anonymous No.14850180]

>>14850059
That's what I thought, too. It probably would have taken off even more if it had been explicitly marketed to males, rather than that "it's like Katniss meets Ender" crap.

[Anonymous No.14850181]

>>14850152
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.14850229]

>>14850180
>It probably would have taken off even more if it had been explicitly marketed to males
That would be considered sexist because it excludes the females who appreciate it. You can't do that.

[Anonymous No.14850335]

>>14849821
Yeah, when I was growing up there were these varied and equally appealing paperbacks in bookstores, you had the heroic cover paintings of men fighting monsters, rescuing maidens and the rest of what was really a continuation of the pulp magazines, only it were novels now. With their dynamic and exciting energy pulling you to peruse their pages. They were small things you could easily carry with you and read during a break in school or on the bus home. You had the lavishly illustrated epic fantasy covers with all their grandiose vistas and stuff, knights in combat and exotic locales that got your imagination going. You had the evocative science fiction covers featuring breathtaking imagery of space battles and strange alien worlds and creatures. You had the more sophisticated works illustrated by the likes of Bruce Pennington, which is still very attractive to a young lad but which I have come to appreciate even more with age.

You also had the leather-bound hardbacks for serious works, too highbrow for cover illustrations. Some of them were old faery tales and mythic texts. They felt important and prestigious to warrant the format, something I think has changed, hardbacks no longer carry with them the same weight as they once did. They are made cheaper and to a lower standard of quality and more works than ever make it into the format.

As you said, it really is no wonder that young men hardly read these days. Whereas they have stopped being a target audience for books altogether women still have their trashy romance novels with shirtless and ripped men on the covers, now simply stock photos of models rather than an actual cover illustration which would be more expensive. But even so they still have their remnant of the pulp romance genre.

The entire publishing industry is so bad right now, the books are bloated and ugly, cheaply slapped together designs taking the place of actual art. Everything is a part of a multi-volume series without an end, as publishers are no longer content with several stories merely taking place in the same setting.

[Anonymous No.14850348]

>>14850335
But anon the old paperbacks didn't have Adobe Aftereffects.

[Anonymous No.14850357]

>>14849849
Why?

[Anonymous No.14850377]

Short stories are dead. The magazines only exist so Aspiring Authors can psych themselves up by putting something in Asimov's, they're mainly read by other authors. Indie mags just run side stories for long-running indie novel series.

[Anonymous No.14850508]

>>14849821
yeah i'm sure video games have nothing to do with boys' reading rates

[Anonymous No.14850518]

>>14850348
I want to puke.
>>14850357
>the alien isn't even slightly xeno
I don't get it either.
>>14850377
Sure, but I don't think the actual market/audience for short stories is truly dead. I know I'd love to read an anthology of them and I'm no writer and surely there must be more people with little time on their hands that want to read a variety of stories from different authors. I think it's the publishers that have killed the venue on purpose since it makes less money. They want to sell you those bloated and overwritten books.

It's a shame because without a healthy scene for short stories writers become worse since they cut their teeth on lengthy novels instead of those exercises in compression and brevity that short stories are. We won't get a new Gene Wolfe anytime soon since they won't develop the skills and habits that short stories demand. There's a great deal of craftsmanship being lost.

[Anonymous No.14850537]

>>14850508
>yikes
Kys

[Anonymous No.14850546]

>>14845429
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.14850570]

>>14850508
>yeah i'm sure video games have nothing to do with boys' reading rates
But women make up at least 50% of all gamers and they still read tons of books.

[Anonymous No.14850598]

>>14850570
Nice pulling all those % out your ass.
Women game to show that they are quirky, and to get forever alone socially awkward cucks to spend them their neet bux over patreon.

[Anonymous No.14850619]

>>14850570
girls' rates are a little lower for gaming but boys definitely spend more time gaming than girls

[Anonymous No.14850653]

New
>>14850650
>>14850650
>>14850650

[Anonymous No.14850861]

>>14849849
Holy shit even I didn't think it was this bad.