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Books to escape midwit Elo hell?

>> No.14819517

the bible

>> No.14819519

>>14819496
first of all, stop using gamer terms like "elo hell'.

>> No.14819543

>>14819519
Done. Any other things I should stop doing?

>> No.14819555

Apart from Chomsky, I agree.

>> No.14819558

>>14819543
asking /lit/ for advice

>> No.14819565

>>14819555
Taleb and Hofstadter really don't deserve to be there.

>> No.14819573

>>14819496
What's your ELO score anon?

>> No.14819601

>>14819555
>>14819565
All of them do. All "public intellectuals" deserve to be on this list.

>> No.14819609

Now that moldbug is posting again I'm losing 12-17 LP every couple months. Pretty sure I will get demoted unless he gets buffed next patch

>> No.14819612

>>14819565
The charts more about what appeals to midwits rather than people who are themselves midwits, though there are clearly many midwits there.

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>>14819496
I agree with most of this (certainly Jordan Peterson, Dawkins etc) but there are some good works there such as Meditations. Just because it's accessible doesn't mean it's solely for midwits. Ironically the most midwit thing imaginable is to pretend you only read the most impenetrable texts and only they hold value. Unsurprisingly, such behaviour is extremely common on /lit/

Now if you'll excuse me, I must get back to my criticism of criticism and 'adequate little' red wine.

>> No.14819686

>>14819636
What era does this pertain to? Is there such a chart for moderns?

>> No.14819690

>>14819496
Sargon of Akkad is dimwit tier

>> No.14819781

>>14819496
>midwits
Like it or not a larger or smaller gallery of such is necessarily anon's potential audience. A more pleasant posture should be adopted, or re-adopted, with respect to 'them' and I suggest 'common reader' stand substitute for 'midwit' from this point forward. This condescension's too uncomfortably arrogant for a sensitive soul such as mine is too btw..

>> No.14819822

>>14819686
Looks like the 60s to me

>> No.14819846

>>14819781
A midwit isn't just a common or average reader. It's actually peak Dunning-Kruger. The midwit has read enough to formulate a coherent opinion, but it's totally biased and wrong. At this point the midwit is the new useful idiot - he is intelligent enough to do basic research, but is very easily manipulated. They read Peterson or Shapiro or Marx (it doesn't matter what their views are) and think they've got it all figured out. These people are dangerous.

>> No.14819957

>>14819846
Okay. So it's more a player on the world stage than it is a reader. If a midwit has it 'all figured out' then this immediately disqualifies him from being a member of one's future audience; in fact this is the type that regularly makes definite pronouncements on books he hasn't even read..
Frightening. This type is legion, anon. Even here.

>> No.14820351

I think the answer is text books.

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>>14819496
Get my (not at all Arab) nigga Taleb off of there.

>> No.14820452

>>14819496
the infographic could be shortened to "any book by a modern pop intellectual"

stupid assumption anyway

>"all modern literature is SHIT, go read some FUCKING nietzsche you FUCKING normie"

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14820474

Asking how to avoid being a midwit is peak midwit behavior.

Maybe stick with the basics of critical thinking and an open mind, and read what you want.

>> No.14820554

>>14819496
Elo hell is real but not outside of games.
There's no forced 50/50 matchmaking in reality.

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>>14819496
Kaczynski's "Anti-Tech Revolution" or "Technological Slavery"

>> No.14820732

>>14819636
I just lost the game

>> No.14820847

>>14819496
>evola in the midwit chart
fucking based

>> No.14820857

How is Evola a midwit?

>> No.14821162

> The Prince
> Meditations
> Revolt Against The Modern World
> The Bell Curve

I have these on my shelf. 0 regrets.

>> No.14821186

Midwit tier:
Plato
Aristotle
Descartes
Locke
Smith
Hume
Kant
Schopenhauer
Hegel
Marx
Stirner
Wittgenstein
Deleuze
Lacan
etc.

Being midwit is about being slow and not getting it.
OP's pic ist brainlet tier.

>> No.14821199

>>14821186
>lists the most important philosophers in history
>midwit

>> No.14821203

>>14819612
This. There is much to be gotten out of reading someone like Mill, say, but it is many times more rewarding if you do so while bearing the thinkers he is responding to in mind.

>> No.14821206

>>14821186
what's smart tier, then

>> No.14821215

>>14821186

"Midwit" seems to be a code-word for books or authors that are well-known.

>> No.14821224

>>14821162
also, 0 girlfriends

>> No.14821231

This thread is a waste of time. If I want to determine if you are a midwit or not, I first begin by looking at which race you belong to. The second step is to determine your political stance. With these two pieces of information I am already able to identify midwits from non-midwits. Which books you read is completely meaningless to me.

>> No.14821246

>>14821199
>>14821206
Being midwit is about seeing the light at the end of the tunnel but never getting there. Big brained zoomers fly by on angel wings, cackling and hooting (although, of course, big brains never reach the end either). Look at this board: the majority are midwits. Look at what they read: the authors I mentioned. Midwit tier and smart tier consist of the same books. It's just that the one group sucks at thinking more than the other.

>> No.14821248 [DELETED] 

>>14819496
Idk half of these books or people but I agree on 48 laws of power and podcast joe dude

>> No.14821288

>>14819846
Did This Guy just compare clean your room to a succesful and most influential philosooher of 19th century ?

>> No.14821290

>>14820720
...should be added to the chart

>> No.14821324

>>14821288
influential =/= smart

>> No.14821333

>>14821288
They're books espoused by people that naively hold extreme views, because they've read nothing else. Peterson readers think cleaning your room and capitalism will solve the world's problems. Marx readers are still spouting ideas 200 years out of date and think maybe, just maybe, communism will work THIS time. Same with Harris, Shapiro, and the rest. They sell simple ideas to simple people, who take the first thing that makes sense to them and run with it, never challenging any assumptions.

>> No.14821341

>>14821333
>everyone else than me is stupid
>a book by an average midwit

>> No.14821350

>>14821333
> They're books espoused by people that naively hold extreme views
> Marx readers are still spouting ideas 200 years out of date

Midwit here.

Is The Bell Curve an out of date book too? Or have Negroes magically achieved human level IQ overnight?

>> No.14821387

>>14821341
Meaningless post.

>>14821350
Have you actually read Marx? Do you still think we live in Feudalism where his arguments make sense? I didn't say anything about The Bell Curve you illiterate ape.

>> No.14821525

>>14821387
> Have you actually read Marx? Do you still think we live in Feudalism where his arguments make sense?

I haven't read Marx. One day I will certainly read him to get a better understanding of Leftism; but what I gather from your post is 'I don't agree with this' = midwit book. That's probably why Bell Curve was mentioned too, and Revolt by Evola (both of which I have). These are midwit books not because they are midwit books, but because you feel threatened by their ideas.

>> No.14821604

>>14819543
Wasting time on 4chan.

>> No.14821623

>>14821186
(You)

>> No.14821638

>>14819846
>They read Peterson or Shapiro or Marx
Peterson and Shapiro themselves are examples of this. Peterson doesn't even know what post modernism means and Ben is a shrill fact distorting Zionist manlet.

>> No.14821808

>>14821387
are you literally retarded or have you never read marx, he was writing at a time where most of the world was post-feudalism, his most important writings are analyses of the capitalist mode of production

>> No.14821864

It doesn't matter which or how many books you nerds read, you will never be as intelligent as a guy who can actually write a book.

>> No.14822013

>>14819601
I feel so sorry for you.

>> No.14822168

>>14819496
Fucking hell, I'm a Midwit.
Lurking.

>> No.14822338

>>14819496
I guess I can sort of relate... I'm 27 and didn't really start to read until like 3 years ago.
Have worked my way up to about 1.5 books a week, approaching my 100th book.
I'm definitely into midwit-core, but It doesn't feel like I'm digging myself into deeper hole, but rather feels like a phase.

Just keep reading what you enjoy reading and let your tastes diverge naturally.
The more you read the better you'll become at telling a good book from a bad book, a good author from a bad author, etc.
I don't think it's a coincidence that these are popular amongst casual readers.