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[Anonymous No.14812236]

Refute this

[Anonymous No.14812249]

>Flat circle
As opposed to those which are not flat

[Anonymous No.14812255]

>>14812236
Extraordinary shite requires extraordinary evidence

[Anonymous No.14812257]

>>14812236
You can't have done something you're going to do. The action may be the same but the act itself engenders novelty and the circumstances that contextualize it are unknown. Flat circle or whatever other semen slurping pseud bullshit you want to call it, there isn't an axiomatic interface that makes the state of being less than what it is or any one person exempt from its entropy. The future is unwritten.

[Anonymous No.14812261]

>>14812236
>someone once told me
Sheesh

[Anonymous No.14812353]

>>14812249
Yes.

[Anonymous No.14812360]

>>14812353
I concede

[Anonymous No.14812384]

>>14812236
>tv writers trying to quote nietzcshe

[Anonymous No.14812395]

>>14812236
what the hell is the obsession incels have with this character, I see his stupid fucking face everyday with stupid posts about not having a life or how their life sucks

[Anonymous No.14812409]

>>14812395
He is the watered down version of pessimism that people, who don't read, eat up mindlessly like stuff from the dollar menu. Given this low resolution version, the masses think they have a clear idea on being an edgy faggot.

[Anonymous No.14812414]

>>14812409
in what way is he a "watered down version of pessimism"? genuinely curious

[Anonymous No.14812428]

>>14812395
Material pleasures are vapid and meaninglessness yet they're the only objectively good thing in this world

[Anonymous No.14812436]

>>14812414
He isnt 400 pages of the same thing over and over so he isnt smart

[Anonymous No.14812446]

>>14812414
To continue the dollar store comparison, watchers get full but there is no nutrition. From what I remember from the show, which I liked for the first season, they wrote his character as if the writers went back to old pessimistic philosophers, whom they read during their undergrad, and grabbed sentences they had highlighted for his dialogue. Admittedly, it's a psychological mind-fuck detective show so I don't expect much on philosophical content.

[Anonymous No.14812451]

>>14812236
What nonsense is he blabbing on about?

[Anonymous No.14812551]

Eternal Return for those who will only live once.

[Anonymous No.14812789]

>>14812236
Mfw the show is an attempt to refute this. I feel like people here didn't even follow the plot, but instead watch the show for the edgy quotes. Makes me sad :(

[Anonymous No.14812838]

>>14812446
what would you consider more in depth thought on pessimism. I've read a bit of Cioran and Schop and they pretty much say the same ideas, but with more flowery prose

[Anonymous No.14812860]

>>14812838
If you actually read either of those authors in any meaningful capacity you wouldn't say this

[Anonymous No.14812866]

>>14812860
>you wouldn't say this
why?

[Anonymous No.14812882]

Being is light, not heavy. Things only happen once.

[Anonymous No.14812902]

>>14812789
Yeah, I find it funny that the biggest fans of the show really didn't understand the show in the slightest.
Epic atheist detective man with nihilistic world view solves crimes and drinks beer on his days off.

[Anonymous No.14812909]

>>14812236
even if it is true, i don't remember anything so i don't give a fuck.

[Anonymous No.14812919]

>>14812236
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xD2jKSW7yss

[Anonymous No.14812927]

>>14812409
I think you hate him because of his popularity. He's not edgy for edginess sake. Rust has a genuine hatred of life and boils it down to bite sized bits for TV. You shouldn't expect an endless monologue of every little terrain of pessimist thought, you read a book for that.

[Anonymous No.14812953]

>>14812353
That's a topological structure, not a circle

[Anonymous No.14812960]

>>14812953
Yeah, whatever, fag.

[Anonymous No.14812962]

>>14812866
Both of them have a lot more to say than the generic "life is bad" pessimist thesis

[Anonymous No.14812963]

>>14812236
It's a completely unfounded metaphysical supposition without a shred of supporting evidence. There.

[Anonymous No.14812968]

>>14812236
>someone once told me

[Anonymous No.14812970]

>>14812962
but the essence of their teaching is actually "life is bad."

[Anonymous No.14812985]

>>14812236
If ants are hording up outside of my door, and I spray them with hot sauce, causing the entire colony to die, then place ant traps in the places I knew they were, this would effectively solve the original problem. That alone destroys all of this.
Epic Reddit quote.

[Anonymous No.14813005]

>>14812963
you're assuming metaphysical suppositions can have evidence?

[Anonymous No.14813014]

>>14813005
No, that is not strictly implicated by my wording.

[Anonymous No.14813029]

>>14812446
It's a TV show you dunce, do you want him to read 400 page philosophical works out loud?
You wankers will shit on anything

[Anonymous No.14813035]

>>14812970
Schopenhauer's great work is transcending the "life is bad"

[Anonymous No.14813058]

>>14812963
What would be an example of a founded metaphysical supposition then

[Anonymous No.14813060]

>>14812953
Its homotopic to a circle

[Anonymous No.14813065]

>>14812236
t. 14-year-old who read Nietzsche for the first time and took eternal recurrence literally

[Anonymous No.14813086]

>>14813065
jokes on you, neet went mad because he took this idea literally.

[Anonymous No.14813397]

>>14813060
But it's still not a circle. Using that overused joke, donut is not a cup.

[Anonymous No.14813399]

I can't. Nietzsche was right

[Anonymous No.14813840]

>>14812261
thats in the context of the series, this nazi dude told it, its meant to expose how their cult crept in his brain

[Anonymous No.14813882]

>>14812968
the naziboy told him on this farm

[Anonymous No.14813905]

>>14812236
Funny how he’s aggressive and ironic when the criminal bring this exact topic during the 90s timeline. What gives?

[Anonymous No.14813915]

>>14812395
>being this new

[Baqhomet !!uIuDaF0H1+A No.14813920]

>>14812236
amzing innit?

[Anonymous No.14813923]

>reads ecclesiastes once

[Anonymous No.14813942]

>>14812236
That's a metaphysical presupposition that can't be proven by reason alone. There's no good reason to think that is the case.

[Anonymous No.14813950]

Isn’t that just mental gymnastics from late neet trying to formulate an explanation for his extreme materialistic perspective of life?

[Anonymous No.14813978]

>>14813920
Amazing, you've misunderstood both the Myth of Sisyphus and True Detective season 1 (which isn't even that challenging) entirely.

[Anonymous No.14813994]

>>14813915
Was he shooting at god?

[Baqhomet !!uIuDaF0H1+A No.14814076]

>>14813978
>you've misunderstood both the Myth of Sisyphus
i transvaluated it
>and True Detective season 1
sounds gay
i don't want to be associated with your faggotry

[Anonymous No.14814098]

>>14813994
Could him?

[Anonymous No.14814122]

>>14812236
Every single day you do a million things slightly different than you or anyone else has ever done, so what is this stupid shit supposed to be claiming?

[Anonymous No.14814143]

>>14814122
>The greatest weight.-- What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: "This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more; and there will be nothing new in it, but every pain and every joy and every thought and sigh and everything unutterably small or great in your life will have to return to you, all in the same succession and sequence - even this spider and this moonlight between the trees, and even this moment and I myself. The eternal hourglass of existence is turned upside down again and again, and you with it, speck of dust!"
>Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus?... Or how well disposed would you have to become to yourself and to life to crave nothing more fervently than this ultimate eternal confirmation and seal?
Friedrich Nietzsche, The Gay Science

Lurk more stupid cracker

[Anonymous No.14814152]

>>14814143
Uh-huh. That's horseshit, and not reality. Why should I bother with "what if" crap?

[Anonymous No.14814193]

>>14812446
Rust was a perfectly fine depiction of a pessimist in the modern era, you pseud. And if you actually knew anything about the writer's influences, you would know he lifted dialogue directly from a modern horror story called "Conspiracy Against the Human Race." There are Nietzschean overtones, but these are secondary to the author's anti-natalist bent.

[Anonymous No.14814199]

>>14812919
>all that effort and he still has a baby face
sad

[Anonymous No.14814232]

>>14812953
A circle is a topological structure too

[Anonymous No.14814329]

>>14814232
Circle is a geometrical concept that can be expanded into topological structure perhaps, I don't know much about topology

[Anonymous No.14814451]

>>14812257
he means something like eternal recurrence

[Anonymous No.14814576]

>>14814193
>are secondary to the author's anti-natalist bent
Rust literally had a child to build his background. This Pizollato guy it’s some hack who got lucky here and there during season 1.

[Anonymous No.14814595]

>>14812236
>physical interpretation of eternal return
wew guys come on...

[Anonymous No.14814606]

>>14814576
>Rust literally had a child to build his background.
Yes, but he becomes anti-natalist after the death of his daughter.
>This Pizollato guy it’s some hack who got lucky here and there during season 1.
Agreed. Apparently he may not have even been the script's original author.

[Anonymous No.14814611]

>>14813840
But in that same scene Rust notices that he's quoting Nietzsche.

[Anonymous No.14814714]

>>14812789
Probably because he doesnt refute the ideas as well as he presents them. You dont get points for trying

[Anonymous No.14814746]

>>14812968
it was revealed to him in a dream

[Anonymous No.14814785]

>>14814746
cool

[Anonymous No.14814874]

>>14814785
>this is what replaced continental philosophy

[Anonymous No.14814880]

>>14812236
>Refute this
(YOU) -- a COOMER -- were tumescent at the sight of Rusty's adulterous, prematurely ejaculating ass

[Anonymous No.14814905]

>>14813905
he says shut the fuck up because he is pointing a gun at him and panicking. he doesnt know how many other people are there or if some crazy shit is about to happen. also he says "what is that, Nietzsche? shut the fuck up."

[Anonymous No.14815069]

>>14814905
not that anon but at that point the taxman wasn't really blackpilled yet. that happened when marty comes out of the shed and tells him to go look inside. kneechee is cringe regardless, but taxman of later years would come to repeat the sentiments of Reggie Ledoux.