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14746923 No.14746923 [Reply] [Original]

watch list? Y/N?

>> No.14746929

>>14746923
No one here knows and if they do they won't tell

>> No.14746930

Yeah watch list for most balling nigga.

>> No.14746940

I think there's a residual protective aura around Evola's books operating at the etheric level. I bought 10 of them from Arktos and they were all delivered in the same box. They didn't fit in my mailbox, so the mail lady delivered left them in the lobby of my overwhelmingly black apartment complex in my overwhelmingly black neighborhood. Package thieves are very frequent in my building, and will take almost anything, even things that obviously have no value, but my package was ripped open and simply left alone. I'm not sure if the attacker was vaporized or fled in terror but the books were all there according to the order receipt.

So buy Evola in bulk, and you should be fine.

>> No.14746953

>>14746940
that's very interesting and epic, but possibly they werent interested in books, especially ones they know nothing about.

The former is much cooler, though

>> No.14747042

>>14746940
actually, thinking about it... damn, you might be right

>> No.14747057

>>14746940
That's because those niggas can't read

>> No.14747603

>>14746930
based.

>> No.14747629
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14747629

watch list? Y/N?

>> No.14747682

>>14747629
I knew a guy who had read this book 3 times

>> No.14747689

>>14746923
reminder there are good reasons why no one outside of this board knows who this nigga even is

>> No.14747794

>>14747689
If no one gave a fuck about who he was there wouldn’t be a literal psyop of a wiki article about him promoting an extremely biased view of his work.

>> No.14747812

>>14747794
it's obviously his son behind it all

>> No.14747879

>>14746940
Based Evola deterring coons from beyond the grave

>> No.14747949

>>14746923
>watch list
lol no one cares about evola my man

>> No.14747958

>>14746940
Taka your pills schizo, Evola destroyed fascist thought beyond repair

>> No.14747995

>>14746940
>thief rips open box
>no greens or chitlins
>no money or shit to pawn
>sheeeit, cracka ass cracka

>> No.14748010

Isn't it more likely to be put on a watclist for using image boards, or tor?

>> No.14748062

>>14746923
bump

>> No.14748075

>>14746940
It has nothing to do with Evola. Nigs saw that there is book in the package. They saw the paper with some inscriptions which they don't really understand but the whole thing terrified them. They were struck with the fear of something strange and unknown and chose to leave it.

>> No.14748109

>>14747958
>Taka your pills

this is the worst /leftypol/ discord tourist meme since the tranny accelerationists and the "DA JOOOOS" shit

why do you people always immediately broadcast that you don't belong?

>> No.14748299

>he's afraid he might be put on a watchlist
>he cares
Brb I'm gonna mail uncle Ted a letter

>> No.14748451
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14748451

>>14746923
Corporations are interested in your consumer habits, the CIA is not. Literally any purchase you make using digital currency will be monitored, either through your bank, ebay, paypal, amazon, ect. It's just the data that is important. Evola's Modern World is a relic of the 20th century and of little thread to the fluidity of the now.
I've bought his books, along with hundreds of others on amazon and ebay, and I can guarantee you that I am on a "watch list", just as every other consumer is, but that which is watching isn't interested in the words between the pages, only that you continue to consume and presumably pay pay your taxes.
That being said, there are certain materials that the authorities keep a close eye on, but those materials will not be available on the open market.

>> No.14748491

>>14746940
So you’re surprised a black didnt want to steal a book? Anon..

>> No.14748521

>>14748451
>That being said, there are certain materials that the authorities keep a close eye on, but those materials will not be available on the open market.
Such as?
Stuff on how to build weapons/bombs, or hacking stuff?
Why would authorities care what someone reads?

>> No.14748537

>>14748521
>Stuff on how to build weapons/bombs, or hacking stuff?
>Why would authorities care what someone reads?

Not OP but yes to above. Prior to 9/11 everything was out in the open. Since then titles pertaining to the above have disappeared from the open internet. I don't know how they did it. I don't know if there is a law against said information that is actively used to take down certain books etc.? I would like to know myself but have never bothered to look into it.

>> No.14748541

>>14748521
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Progressive,_Inc.&ved=2ahUKEwihuuaV8dvnAhVgHzQIHXmMBpYQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0tzbeHj1scgnJrYDsugGJ_&cshid=1582055829507

>> No.14748543

>>14746923
I imagine watch lists dont even exist anymore. It is possible that every single person is in a large world dataset with varying scores of treath. Buying something could increase your score, as could having been in jail or whatever. After you pass a certain threshold they will put an eye on you. That would make more sense for 2020

>> No.14748568

>>14747682
It’s not even written well, won’t elicit more than a couple chuckles either

>> No.14748573

>>14746923
Is it worth reading if you already read Ride the Tiger?

>> No.14748585

>>14747689
Famous authors like Yourcenar or Eco commented on his work. He was also very famous in France.

>> No.14748590

>>14748543
b-b-b-bBUT DATS WHAT LE EBIL CHINEEEEEESE DO!!!

>> No.14748602

>>14746923
>muh watch list, i'm so important
The only time you'd be put on a watch list is if you order a book on how to make bombs or some shit. If you're really that narcissistic believing you'll be put on a watchlist for ordering a book hundreds of thousands of people have already ordered, then set up a PO box and order with a fake name (also get a VPN (Nord)).

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14748647

How many lists will this get me on?

>> No.14748655

>>14748647
None you fucking retard. Nobody cares that you bought a fucking book, jesus christ.

>> No.14748669

>>14748655
t. CIA

>> No.14748678

>>14746923
>Julius Evola, a literally CIA-NATO agent during the post-war (Gladio Network)
>"will buying revolt against the modern world put me on a watch list?"

NO

>> No.14748679

>>14748537
Oh I see, yeah that makes sense.

>> No.14748686

>>14747689
Whats that reason

>> No.14748687

>>14748669
>muh cia is gonna watch me for buying a book hundreds of thousands of people have already bought
It's like you WANT to be put on a watch list. You do know this image board is anonymous, right? You're not getting any upvotes.

>> No.14748699

>>14748687
Go to bed you fucking glownigger. We already know computers get drag netted if they search certain terms why wouldnt books be logged

>> No.14748727

>>14748699
>we already know computes get dreg netted
Lmao. Proof?
>glowie glowie glowie
Looks like the r*ddit spawn learned a new buzzword.
>w-why wouldn't b-books be logged!
Because it's literally words on a fucking page you dumbass. Unless it's instructions on how to make a bomb or hide a dead body literally no one will give a shit.

The real question is -- why do you want to be put on a list so bad? This is obviously a thread for nothing other than attention, and you are obviously new because you haven't even read Evola, so you do realize that this image forum is anonymous, right? There is no upvotes or likes, you do understand, correct?

>> No.14748728

>>14748699
fun fact: if you're commonly searching about jews on google (which btw, is inneficient and you should use ddg), pornhub suggests you cuck porn. I'm not even making this up

>> No.14748736

>>14748728
fucking kek

>> No.14748747

>>14748728
>cares about privacy so much he makes a thread on /lit/ about it
>still uses google
You're not even trying anymore.

>> No.14748749

>>14746923
I bought mein kampf and white power off of amazon
You should be fine.

>> No.14748763

>>14748728
Is that because people who like cuck porn are disgusted by themselves and then blame the Jews or because Jews who fucking LOVE themselves also really fucking LOVE cuck porn of their adversary's women getting sexually and genetically destroyed by animal niggers?

>> No.14748772

>>14748747
>>14748763
I love provoking shills, they always respond with the same fallacious seething.

>> No.14748832
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14748832

>>14746923
I've already bought it
No one but marketing data bases care about your little fascist book collection anon, they will record the purchase to suggest you more.

Anarchist praxis literature might be likely to get you noticed though.

>> No.14748870

>>14747958
>Taka your pills schizo
You sound like my mother

>> No.14748873

>>14747958
>Taka your pills schizo
Saying this automatically makes you sound like a schizo

>> No.14749053

>>14748728
And thats a good thing

>> No.14749083 [DELETED] 

Nothing Evola says in that back is radical enough to justify being put on a watch list. The guy was an author loosely affiliated with fascism in his home country, not a domestic terrorist. The fact that this is even a concern just shows how well the thought policing works.

>> No.14749319

Nothing Evola says in this book is radical enough to justify being placed on a watch list of any sort. He was an author who was loosely affiliated with a political movement in his home country, not a domestic terrorist. The fact that this is even a concern shows just how well the constant thought policing works.

>> No.14749341

>>14746923
Revolt isn't exactly saying anything "extreme" within the scope of contemporary political activism.
Evola is just one of those authors who is accused of wrongthink because
1) Reading him will potentially lead you away from the philisophical framework and narrative that others want you to buy into for their own political activism.
2) The lackeys and drones of the aforementioned people, don't actually bother reading more than a fucking wikipedia page and so think Evola can be entirely reduced to "he's a racist classist who was more fascist than Mussolini".
Revolt is a good introduction to Evola. If you end up really going down that rabbit hole, though, you're not going to become the sort of person the deep state considers an immediate threat. Particularly after the war, people like Evola and Guénon became disillusioned with the notion of some restoration of any social order with a ruling elite guided by perennial wisdom, and instead fell back on the implications of perennial wisdom to themselves, their contemporaries, and their readers, as individuals.

>> No.14749386

>>14748573
Ride the Tiger was the first Evola I read.
Since then I've read heaps of books, including a lot more of Evola, and all I can say is Ride the Tiger is not the first book you should read of his.
So yeah, of course it is. Do you really think reading one book by an author suffices to make all their other work irrelevant?

>> No.14749445

Unless there's a specific list for image board created "baby's first reading" pseud virgins than no, you're fine

>> No.14749504

>>14749445
t. hasn't read Evola

>> No.14749556

>>14747629
absolutely.
>>14747682
was his name Timothy

>> No.14749565

revolt against the modern world buy using the internet to send money to a stranger so they can mail a book to you half way across the world, and revolt even more by connecting to more strangers on an anime internet board

>> No.14749574

>>14749565
>thinking that's the point
>thinking the traditionalists are material-focused anprim luddites
>obviously hasn't read Evola, Guénon, Coomaraswamy etc

>> No.14749598

>>14749574
Guenon's traditionalist views are totally different than Evola's

>> No.14749612

>>14749598
not really

>> No.14749623

>>14749612
enlighten me

>> No.14749670

>>14748521
To my knowledge there are no reliable textbook on those subjects outside of the military. But studying physics, chemistry, engineering, cyber forensics will give you a good understanding into those subjects. As is commonly known contemporary graduate level textbooks are very expensive and outside the learning curve of laymen, but you can find introductory textbooks second hand for only a few dollars each at thriftstoors. The "how to build weapons/bombs, or hacking stuff" can easily be found on the internet, but understanding ballistics, pyrotechnics, software engineering, and so on are all grounded in specialized fields, and without a grasp on the basics of those fields you won't know what you're doing.
It's basically all science, which itself has a historical background worthy of study. For the basic il/lit/erate poster I'd suggest starting with Carl Sagan's Cosmos series and working your way into a community college to earn a degree in general science or programming.

>> No.14749698

>>14749598
>>14749623
Not the anon who said "not really".
The differences between them are not relevant to the fact that anon knows jack shit about what they're talking about.
As for the differences between Evola and the traditionalists proper, I tend to agree with Evola.
Let's talk about how they're different.
The traditionalists proper generally insist on the importance of adhering to an existing established world tradition with a lineage, as a means of "entering the stream" of perennial wisdom.
To that end, most of them (Guénon, Schuon, Burckhardt, Lings etc), turned to Sufism.
Evola on the other hand insisted that within the latter years of a deteriorating culture, such established traditions ossify and deteriorate themselves, and are at best not necessary - and at worst, counterproductive - to the pursuit of perennial wisdom, and instead believed that in times such as ours, self-initiation is more viable.
The difference in opinion here, stems from their different understandings of history, and traditional thought's place in it.
For Guénon and (I assume, given I'm not well-read enough to state as fact for all) other traditionalists, their understanding of the etiology extends only so far back as the revolt of one caste against the ruling caste directly above it.
Evola's understanding is a lot more believable to me. No revolution for below would be successful against a ruling class still in direct communion with God, for example. For Evola (as, indeed for merely tangentially related authors such as Toynbee), the ruling elite has to first lose the élan by which it ruled, and in doing so often falls back on the technique proper to the caste below to assert their dominance. The caste below, instinctively realising the failing of the ruling caste and its ruling by what is rightfully the providence of them, then revolts and usurps them.
As such, if involution is the result of a top-down failure, how can one justify Guénon et al's adherence to degenerated traditions, rather than seeking direct communion with God through self-initiation?
Evola is right - in my opinion.

>> No.14749699

>>14749623
you're the one advancing a claim that indicates you haven't read both authors, so read both authors, then come back.

>> No.14749707

>>14749698
>their understanding of the etiology
*of involution

>> No.14749933

>>14749698
thanks

>> No.14749947

If you're on 4chan, you are already on a watchlist.

>> No.14750068
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14750068

Approximately how high on the watch list am i with this one bros?

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14750097

This might put you on a watchlist.

>> No.14750142

>>14749947
I only post on reddit
Am i on a watchlist

>> No.14750250

>>14750142
You just posted on 4chan.
But yes, even posting on reddit probably puts you on watchlists if you go on specific subreddits.

>> No.14750807

>>14746923
There are Evola books sold at a new age bookstore here next to the Dalai Lama; I don't think anyone cares

>> No.14750884

>>14746923
No, but asking will

>>14748451
>the CIA is not.
>amazon,
Why the kerfuffle over the JEDI cloud contract then, Bezos.

>> No.14750976

>>14747794
It's funny you mention that, because I remember when his Wikipedia article was relatively unbiased and generally informative. Then Steve Bannon mentioned vaguely knowing who Evola was, and the entire media REEEEd and launched a smear campaign against a long-dead Sicilian, and now every other word of the opening section of his Wikipedia article is mentioning that he was a facist racist nazi sexist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Evola
Seriously, just read this shit, it's almost comical.

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14750999

>>14746923
Hard to say for me personally. I have that book and got a letter from the FBI that they had determined it suitable to monitor me due to suspicious activity and decided that I was not a threat. I think it was the letters to Kaczynski though and not Evola.

>> No.14751003

>>14750999
>letters to Kaczynski
Based and checked. Did he respond?

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>>14751003
No sadly. This was back in 2016 and was mostly questions about David Gelernter (got a package from Ted) possibly having a role in the Trump administration.

>> No.14751145

>>14747689
My dad knows him

>> No.14751449

>>14750807
It's pretty odd. You have Inner Traditions publishing books written by 50 year old menopausal crazy cat ladies who barely bathe peddling crystal woo woo and fad diets, and then you have Evola.

>> No.14751630

>>14748521
Never been to /k/? You can literally get all non-classified US military manuals in PDF form for free. It became a little difficult to get classic survivalist militia titles like "The Poor Man's James Bond" and "New And Improved C-4: Better-Than-Ever Recipes For Half The Money And Double the Fun" because their publishers were either driven out of business or pressured into withdrawing such texts. Hell, it's more expensive now that Paladin Press has shut its doors, but you can literally buy the Ragnar Benson classics "Homemade Grenade Launchers: Constructing The Ultimate Hobby Weapon" and "Ragnar's Guide to Home and Recreational Use of High Explosives" on Amazon.

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14751823

>>14748772
>am I on a list for $thing
>uses google
You are already on a list. You even have to connect to googles servers to reply 'cope/dialate/seething' to this post

>> No.14752857

>>14748832
>your STUPID books wont get you in trouble, but my COOL books will
:)

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14753498

Not as many as this

>> No.14753522
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14753522

I SIEGE posted hard as fuck in 2018, bought several Evola books on amazon, bought a Khomeini (pbuh) book off eBay, and still can get on airplanes without having to go through any special line or anything.

The FBI is full of retarded boomers. The only thing that will unironically get you on a watch list is buying The Anarchist Cook Book or some MAYBE Al Qaeda or ISIS literature. ACB is the only one confirmed to get you fucked, however.

>> No.14753546

>>14753522
What does Evola have to do with Siege?

>> No.14753554

Evola is the single most misunderstood author on /lit/ in case there are any curious readers.

>> No.14753576

>>14748728
>tfw a 4chan meme ends up skewing the google research algorithm
Finally I feel important.

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14754131

>>14753546
It puts his theories into practice, albeit in a cruder fashion. Khomeini is the superior philosopher compared to Mason.

Nonetheless, I was just pointing out that you can a lot of shit and avoid the meme FBI list.

>>14753554
True. This is why Meditations on the Peaks should be the first thing people read by Evola.

>> No.14754158

>>14754131
*that you can do a lot of shit

>> No.14755219

>>14749670
if you just want to learn science there is no point going to college, just read textbooks. they are insanely good for self study.

>> No.14755312

>>14749556
His name was Dale

>> No.14755387

>>14746930
B A S E D
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>> No.14755399
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14755399

>>14746940
Now imagine the scenario where some half literate black guy stole your books and actually read them. Perennialist niggas be like:

>> No.14755401

>>14749698
The exception to the degeneration of established traditions is Tibetan Buddhism which, though it has a good share of degenerates, still has an authentic esoteric tradition of initiation and some authentic teachers. Evola himself considered Tibetan Buddhism degenerated, but he was not close enough to it to make a proper assessment.

>> No.14755409

>>14748678
>took muttmerica’s money
>constantly shittalked them and their culture openly and in the media
>still got the shekels without doing anything meaningful for westcucks
Absolutely BASED shitalian.