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What comes after postmodernism?

>> No.14744948

your mom erdism

>> No.14744953

>>14744941
The singularity

>> No.14744957

>>14744941
postmodernism

>> No.14744959

do people still talk about the new sincerity or is that dead

>> No.14744963

idk is there some latinate prefix for "after" err something we can use?

>> No.14744965

postmodernism is just a catchall term for everything after modernism so technically nothing comes after it.

>> No.14744978

>>14744959

It became post-sincerety, which then became new irony, and that became post-irony.

>> No.14744989

>>14744978
i'm guessing the new irony emerged on the internet

>> No.14745003
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>> No.14745051

>>14744941
Premodernism

>> No.14745082

whatever you want

>> No.14745086

>>14744941
pre-postcum-ism

>> No.14745088

Extinction.

>> No.14745095

>>14745051
that would just be neodecadentism, neorealism, neoromanticism, neoneoclassicism, etc

>> No.14745197

We, anon, come after postmodernism, and all have a roll in shaping it. Do not forsake that responsibility.

>> No.14745202

>>14744941
Neomodernism

>> No.14745211

>>14744941
the fourth political theory

>> No.14745218

>>14744941
archeomodernism
>>14745211
based

>> No.14745228

>>14744941
Dank memes

>> No.14745283

>>14744941
this image never fails to make me smile, sincerely

>> No.14745291

>>14744941
>There is an increasing belief across the humanities–from literary criticism tofilm studiesto art theory–that the phenomenon labelled postmodernism is now, as Linda Hutcheonclaims,‘a thing of the past’(2002: 165). If, however, there is a shared sense thatpostmodernism is no longer with us, there is less agreement about what has replacedit. Amongst the suggestions are notions as diverse as:‘hypermodernism’(Lipovetsky,2005), which stresses consumerism;‘digimodernism’(Kirby,2009), which foregroundsdigitisation; a‘post-postmodern’realist ethics (McLaughlin,2004);‘cosmodernism’(Moraru,2011) and‘planetariness’(Elias and Moraru,2015; Moraru,2015) which empha-sise globalisation; and the‘Anthropocene’(Trexler,2015) with its environmentalconcern.1Whilst these theories prioritise a component or sensibility of contemporaryculture, other accounts focus on literary style and thematics. Walkowitz (2006), James(2012) and James and Seshigiri (2014), for instance, argue for the resurgence of moder-nist aesthetics in contemporaryfiction. In contrast.
I just read this 5 mins ago

>> No.14745345

>>14744941
postpostmodernism

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>>14744941
First the collapse must come (if there is to be any "after)
Socialist-Romanticism

>> No.14745423

>>14744941
metamodernism unironically

>> No.14745458

>>14745348
Socialism without that degenerate materialist nonsense so many socialists adhere to would be pretty cool, but I doubt that's coming any time soon. I would settle for distributism or some kind of social corporatism if I had to, I suppose. The way things are now, we in the West are careening towards neofeudalism (except worse because instead of ashrams and monasteries there will be start-ups and communally-organized closed cities for social media moderators).

>> No.14745479

a return to myth to complete the cycle, read northrop frye's anatomy of criticism for more details

>> No.14745511 [DELETED] 

>>14745479
Interested. DLed. Can you go i to some details or link to a summary or review? Wikipedia’s?

>> No.14745524

>>14744941
Death, extinction and another dark age.

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>>14745423
this

>> No.14745563 [DELETED] 

>>14745511
yeah sure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomy_of_Criticism#%22Historical_Criticism:_Theory_of_Modes%22

>> No.14745605

>>14744941
Metamodernism

>> No.14745643

The end of society. Apocalypse.

>> No.14745653

>>14744941
Derrida

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>>14744941
The new beginning.

>> No.14745735

Can you guys explain postmodernism to me?
I hear it get thrown around a lot by "academics" but I never really understand what it means and I feel like the people using those terms don't exactly know either.

>> No.14745743

>>14745735
postmodernism is essentially skepticism of the notion of progress

>> No.14745745

>>14744941
Capitalist Realism

>> No.14746034

>>14744941
yo wtf bro that cat just rocked a sick af dab lmao bro jesus christ that fucking cat bro and he got those dudes in the back backing him up like BRO that's a sick cat rocking a sick dab and I don't even know what to say what can one say except that the cat you posted is really rocking truly rocking absolutely undeniably rocking one heck of a sick dab

>> No.14746110

>>14746034
It's a whip not a dab.
Stop trying to blend in, grandpa

>> No.14746219

Post-irony

>> No.14746509

>>14744941
Suicide.

>> No.14746597

>>14744941
Post-modernism isn't "post-" but simply the continuation of modernism. Modernism is the end of a cycle, the death of human thought.

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>>14745423
>>14745605
This.

Meta-modernism is what comes after. Behold Pic Related

>> No.14747746

>>14747175
Appears to be socialist romanticism

>> No.14748014

>>14744941
WTF man is this real?

>> No.14748028

What exactly is it that defines Postmodernism and what about our era embodies it?

>> No.14748037

>>14745743
Wouldnt that make postmodernism reactionary?
How has this idea manifested in society and culture?

>> No.14748171

>>14745283
What always gets me is that the cat acts like it's about to spin like those other guys do, but just doesn’t

>> No.14748181

STOP MAKING THIS STUPID FUCKING THREAD YOU RETARDED GODDAMNED NIGGER YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT POSTMODERNISM IS TO BEGIN WITH

>> No.14748183

New-Mythos. No more of the erudite grammatical-prosaic onslaught of modernity and post-modernity, literature returns to the salt-of-the earth of narrative, the archetype, and instead of producing works classified as among schools of thought they will instead be classified by archetypal reformation and will form and reform new-cult followings as each representative writer of the new canon lends their archetypal foundation to the bleaching landscape of the metaphysical by modernity, creating gods, literal gods, who vie ceaselessly and in transient form to constitute the inhabitors of the new olympus, the new valhalla, not dividing among themselves the domains of the universe as in land/sea/sky but the domains of the new memory, of the mind. Man has failed in its current quest to become god, failed miserably, laughably, having searched so far along the dead-end path of science. Once man realizes this, fully realizes this, they will realize the need for new gods. All the research and resource now poured into that castration of a pursuit, the (cloven) STEM, will be redirected into the fanatical invention and elevation of rhetorical, literary gods raised to wage war over the minds of men as they had done before. This is the returning of the old gods, but--Behold!--they shall be reborn anew.

>> No.14748186

>>14748028
>>14748037
its a rejection of (or reaction to?) Heidegger and his nostalgia for an epoch of a traditional metaphysics of being. I'm not a philosophy nigger but I had it explained to me like that somewhere or another. I think this is why Nietzsche/Kierk/etc are considered "proto-postmoderns" by some. The reaction to Heidegger mirrors the post-Hegelian break with metaphysics.

>> No.14748195

>>14745291
is this from the SEP?

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The Foundation forever.

>> No.14748203

>>14748183
t. faggot with no vocabulary
how about no.

>> No.14748205

Islam

>> No.14748222

>>14748186
So philosophy broke and we have no idea what the fuck is happening

>> No.14748229

>>14748222
p much and 98% of people blame Kant

>> No.14748238

>>14748203
t. actual faggot with no response
how about its already fucking happening maricon mariposa

>> No.14748242

>>14747746
>[ideology I'm pushing this week]

Definitely a romanticising ideology but it goes above and beyond the modernist and postmodernist narratives. In a sense meta-modernism is anti-dogmatist syncretism. It definitely involves socialist values, but it undoubtedly contains fascist elements aswell.

>> No.14748246

goddamn you pseudointellectuals are so fucking insufferable
not one have you have read a single book on the subject yet you all have an opinion
jesus chrimminy christ fucking die

>> No.14748251

>>14748238
respond to what? one of your asspull definitions of shit you don't understand

Let alone the fact that this is a literature board and you all start talking about philosophy instead of postmodern.fucking.literature.

>> No.14748257

Embedded Sino-Semitism

>> No.14748269

>>14744941
Postpostmodernism

>> No.14748274

>>14744941
haha look at him go

>> No.14748284

>>14748257
shut your dirty mouth whore

>> No.14748293

>>14748284
clearly not me

>> No.14748317

>>14748251
post-modern literature is inundated with the realization of itself as a dead-end in literature, whether self-aware or no. DFW is the most obvious example of this. It's all just a continuation of the railing against the perceived confines of literature but they're running out of confines. At that point the only direction is pretending to still be badass by breaking conventions that no longer apply, backpedaling gradually toward a state where literature can perceive another avenue of progression, or starting from a paleolithic scratch and reinventing the wheel. I think the first is probably the most likely and the latter the least, but I thought it would be more fun to write about the latter so I did, and go fuck yourself.

>> No.14748351

>>14748257
That does seem to be the rollout plan

>> No.14748424

no singular identity comes after postmodernism. call it whatever you want.

>> No.14748464

>>14748317
oh shut the fuck up
you dont even read new fiction you smarmy shitstain
"paleolithic" indeed. seriously, fuck off

>> No.14748473

>>14748317
>paleolithic
this guy thinks the next movement is grugposting, apparently.

>> No.14748494

>>14744941
Fascism.

>> No.14748513

>>14748317
breaking conventions?
how about just not writing the same quasi-Flaubert style as everyone else

It's only a dead end for brainlets with no vision such as yourself. For us real artists, its a way forward.

>> No.14748534

>>14748464
>>14748473
>>14748513
Which butterfly is the real butterfly

>> No.14748548

>>14748534
Someone is using my name to shitpost. I don't mind though,

>> No.14748583

>>14748548
It's actually my name; fuck off imposter

>> No.14748597

>>14748548
>>14748583
mine.

>> No.14748605

>>14748548
>>14748583
>>14748597
jesus christ, get a life

>> No.14748609

>>14744941
Post-irony, you tards

>> No.14748613

>>14748609
suck my cock bandwagon faggot
I bet youve never even read DFW

>> No.14748619

>>14748548
>>14748583
>>14748597
What do you people have to gain from stealing my name

>> No.14748623

>>14748619
I should ask you the same question.

>> No.14748630

>>14748623
this is advanced shitposting if I've ever seen it. Also I bet you've never read Nick Land.

>> No.14748637

>>14748630
Nick Land is a psychotic pseud

>> No.14748639

>>14748630
Nick Land is on my coffee table.
I got the special edition, when you open it, it goes "Ni-ni-nini-ninininick"

>> No.14748643

>>14748637
>>14748630
>>14748619
>>14748548
holy shit you're a dumbass. The name is bolded

>> No.14748668

>>14744941
Nothing, Philosophy ended with Aristotle, and the rest is just a really rich set of footnotes. The poets and prophets so derided by pre-Socratics were on the right side of history.

>> No.14748683

and anal virgnity ended with your mom. lol

>> No.14748704

>>14744941
Whatever comes next, it's not like philosophy is some long meta narrative of dudes through history working it out bit by bit towards an end goal. It's all just a means to practice the mind bro.

>> No.14748711

>>14748668
Shove it up your ass you lame materialist. Read Kant. Aristotle's ideas reached their peak when the big boy aztec autist Hume developed them, only to get btfo'd by some German Idealist who would later be known as the greatest philosopher of all time.

>> No.14748712

>>14746034
this is a really good post

>> No.14748715

>>14748668
So I guess we should just read aristotle and that'll teach me why I keep finding blood in my urine.

>> No.14748721

>>14748711
Kant only developed efficient cause and conveniently didn't develop formal, final, or material cause. His ideas are shit and caused a lacuna in science for the next three centuries.
Blow it out your ass billiard ball faggot

>> No.14748724

>>14748668
https://youtu.be/v1lDwl5S26s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzKtDJO0vA0

>> No.14748730

>>14745345
someone had to say it.
thanks for biting the bullet chief.

>> No.14748733

>>14748730
I wish he actually would

>> No.14748748

>>14748721
Imagine unironically not addressing the problem of induction. Sense experience is not a reliable means of extrapolating information from the outside world as far as objectivity is concerned. As conscious beings, we are doomed to perceive the phenomenological world from our own perspective; when we use language to communicate, there always exists a subject object distinction. Kant was right.

>> No.14748769

>>14748748
Did Kant write much about the flaws of language?
Like in the Wittgenstein-esque way?
Genuinely curious, Kant is a blot in my knowledge besides the bare basics

>> No.14748770

>>14748748
*Kant knocks the 8 ball into the corner pocket*
"What are these balls made of, Kant?"
"Doesn't matter."

>> No.14748785

>>14748769
The language example was used to further demonstrate the inability for the human subject to achieve an understanding of noumenalogical reality via experience. Wittgenstein took a more anti-intellectual approach to language that isn't to groundbreaking once you get into it.
>>14748770
based butterfly poster

>> No.14748791

>>14744941
My diary desu

>> No.14748794

>>14748785
*too

>> No.14748801

holy shit butterfly posters are aids

>> No.14748806

>>14746509
best answer

>> No.14748815

>>14748801
No we're not. We're the virtual manifestation of the collective unconscious.

>> No.14748819

>>14748801
aids to what, good sir?
intuition? understanding?

>> No.14748833

>>14748815
you're not as unconscious nor as collective as the average comment on an espn facebook post

>> No.14748850

>>14748785
cool, so the similarity is superficial, cheers man
Got any Kant to recommend?
(outside of critique of pure reason/ metaphysics of morals)

>> No.14748865

>>14748613
the only thing gayer than butters is someone pretending to be butters

>> No.14748871

>>14748242
>this week
Naw.
I guess I was talking about the painting. But what is this “meta-modernism”? What socialist values exactly that also take fascism? “Anti-dogmatism” doesn’t describe it enough

>>14748534
They’re all fakes below this guy >>14748242 and above mine.

>>14748494
>The past will rise again! For the first time ever!!

>> No.14748875

>>14748865
who?

>> No.14748882

>>14748871
shutup, fraud

>> No.14748885

ITT proof that tripfags are cancer

>> No.14748898

>>14748833
I'll take that as a compliment. The way I perceived my shitpost was as the embodiment of the shitposter archetype.
>>14748850
Kant is really autistic, so starting off with his influences might make it easier. If you want basic info, because I personally am not qualified to actually speak about him extensively, look into podcasts, lectures, and yt videos about his ideas.

>> No.14748900

>>14748464
>new fiction
>>14748473
just wait
>>14748513
>us real artists
>a
>way
>forward

>> No.14748906

>>14748900
typical that you can do nothing but copy the works of others

>> No.14748910
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>>14748885
>Anonymous parades around with someone’s name
> “See? Namefags are cancer
As usual anonymous is the dumbest poster in the room.

>> No.14748912

>>14748910
we're all anonymous.
some of us are just deluded into thinking otherwise.

>> No.14748945

>>14748912
And this is hardly my real name. What is in a name? I am apart from your soup of conformity.

The conservative values I was raised with were all about individualism, now a more a realistic leftist, I see the new generation of “trads” embracing collectivism. Really weird.

>> No.14748951

>>14748906
typical that you think you aren't doing the same. here, this is you.
>my art is seriousss!!!
>take my art SERIUOSLY I MEAN IT
>IT'S SEIRUS U DONT EVEN KNOO
>>14748912
unless youre a three letter agency, then its the other way around

>> No.14748961

*farts out vagina

>> No.14748966

>>14748945
Individualism and collectivism aren't inherently exclusive to the left or right. Left individualists might be egoists, right individualists might be objectivists. Left collectivists might be tankies, while right collectivists might be wehraboos.

>> No.14748973

I am a leftist individual.

I fart individually out the left side of my vag. lol

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>>14744941
Burgerpunk

>> No.14748998

Why is it so hard for tripfags to understand that they're still anonymous? They aren't celebrities or individuals. It's impossible to achieve that on this platform, period.
With the slim exception of chinkmoot, the janny general.

>> No.14749005

>>14748961
*Quim quiff
But what have you inserted to cause this?

>>14748966
Oh, I get that. But it’s funny how untraditional the “trads” are. Being extremists is the only consistency there. I’ve grown more moderate on the issue.

>>14748973
>left side of my vag
This all depends on what side you’re laying

>> No.14749015

>>14748973
Inane reply.

>>14748998
That's true, actually.

>>14749005
Who are you?

>> No.14749016

>>14748998
Original Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ here.
Not seeking fame. Never have. Now look at the anons pretending to be me

>> No.14749023

Original Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ here.
Everyone pay attention to me.

>> No.14749027

>>14749005
Centrism is also extreme if you think about it. Complacency in a neoliberal system produces the same effect as does it's advocation.

>>14749016
>>14749023
Original Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ here.
Everyone pay attention to me for I am a biological female.

>> No.14749028

Original Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ here.
*sniffs the vapors of my own rotten vag*

>> No.14749034

>>14749027
based butterfly poster.
*sniffs own vag*
Original Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ here.
*also sniffs own vag*

>> No.14749047

Original Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ here.
Everyone pay attention to me, for I am an individual leftist.

*sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiffs vag*

>> No.14749054

>>14749005
*quim quiffs own vag

>>14749015
What?

>>14749023
Original Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ here.
Everyone sniff my vag, for I am a vag.

>>14749027
Centrism is also snifffffffffffffffffffffffffff

>>14749047
I am an individual vag.

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>>14749027
It's more that I'm for balancing the two of them for their inherent realities. And for a radical purpose

>> No.14749066

>>14744941
post-nuclear wasteland

>> No.14749078
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14749078

Original Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ here.
Not seeking fame. Never have. Now look at a photograph of me, for it is I who am indeed a biological female.

>> No.14749104

>>14744941
Anarcho-Hinduism.

>> No.14749119

Death

>> No.14749126

>>14744941
Hyperbovineism

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