Wotan is the God of the Germanic peoples

[Anonymous No.14742832]

- C. G. Jung
http://www.philosopher.eu/others-writings/essay-on-wotan-w-nietzsche-c-g-jung/

When will /lit/ take the Wotanpill? Come home white man

[Anonymous No.14742839]

>>14742832

[Anonymous No.14742906]

[Anonymous No.14742964]

>>14742839

[Anonymous No.14743117]

>>14742832
How do we fuse Hitler (pbuh) and Guenon (pbuh)?

[Anonymous No.14744241]

>>14742832
Such a puerile infatuation with cosmetic appearance

[Anonymous No.14745399]

>>14742906
based

[Anonymous No.14745476]

>>14742832
Norse-Buddhist reporting in. Friendly reminder that Buddha taught the Norse gods the Dhamma too.

[Anonymous No.14745510]

>>14742832
Daily reminder that following the tradition of European peoples means following Christianity, this neopagan stuff consists of inventions of dissatisfied modernists and a sparse few texts generally recorded by Christians.

[Anonymous No.14745526]

>>14745510
This. At least try to synthesis the two so you are not chopping out a good 1000+ years of historical and religious developments of a people. I dont mind synchronicity, but pure antithesis is a no go for me.

[Anonymous No.14745528]

>>14745476
It's amazing that they share things with Zoroastrianism as well. We should develop a new religion by reconstructing the original IE beliefs and augmenting it with modern philosophers that fit well (Schopenhauer, Jung, etc.)

[Anonymous No.14745556]

>>14745528
guenon (pbuh)?

[Anonymous No.14745570]

>>14745528
>We should develop a new religion by reconstructing the original IE beliefs and augmenting it with modern philosophers that fit well (Schopenhauer, Jung, etc.)
Nah, we shouldn't. Religion isn't just created for some utilitarian need.

Go be a hermit for 15 years and then maybe you got something. But no one is gonna listen to some guy pretending to create a religion because he have "gone through the documents". Religion is not created like that, which is why it's so cringe when people take survive the jive as some sort of spiritual master.

[Anonymous No.14745578]

Odin is the enthroned Dionysus.

[Anonymous No.14745580]

>>14745570
I didn't mean religion in the traditional sense, but a new "life-program" based on these. That's what Jung was doing implicitly anyway.
>>14745556
>>14745556
Guenon isn't bad but he would have been really good if he were less arrogant and a better Kantian.

[Anonymous No.14745581]

>>14742832
What is the Vedic equivalent of Wotan?

[Anonymous No.14745594]

>>14745510
This. The ideal would be to receive initiation from Hinduism but then change the names and aesthetics to European ones, then it would be less artificial.

[Anonymous No.14745603]

>>14742832
I just really really wish Jesus hadn't been a jew.
The theology, the christology, the eschatology of Orthodoxy--it's all very impressing and really resonates with me. But then there is the persistent abrahamic element that spoils it all. It all just feels like such a subversion at bottom; a means of depriving indigenous populations of their true spiritual identity. Taking Christ for a God just feels like being spiritually de-fanged.

[Anonymous No.14745608]

>>14745510
>>14745526
>>14745594
cringe

[Anonymous No.14745611]

>>14745594
>then it would be less artificial.
Whatever you do, you'll always be a cringe larper. You can't escape it.

[Anonymous No.14745615]

>>14745526
>chopping out
You cunts are too on the nose with this shit.

[Anonymous No.14745616]

>>14745611
Participating in a living tradition isn't larping, and neither is finding your own worldview. It's only cringe larping when you pretend some weird collection of mythic fragments and psychotic modernists is a grand European living tradition.

[Anonymous No.14745621]

>>14745603
Well, Semites are considered Caucasian no? So it's less distant than say African or Chinese traditions.

[Anonymous No.14745634]

>>14745621
it is still foreign
>The Aryan unconscious has a greater potential than the Jewish unconscious
-Jung

[Anonymous No.14745635]

>>14745510
Christianity will be niggershit soon, once that happens you"ll see your precious nigger brothers and sisters reduce it into the same jungle babble that it saved them from in the first place. You can either stop pretending Kikestianity has a future or you can get baptized in the stewing pot. You're choice and spare me your frothing recommendation for that nigger Sarah and whoever's that other one is, Blacks with power always disappoint in the end.

[Anonymous No.14745639]

>>14745634
and by "Aryan" he meant Germanic

[Anonymous No.14745649]

>>14745639
And by "Germanic" he meant Jewish, he was always funny like that.

[Anonymous No.14745650]

>>14745649
cringe

[Anonymous No.14745664]

>>14745650
The extent of Jungian logic fellow Aryans.

[Anonymous No.14745665]

>>14745634
Lmao what did he mean by this? How does he differentiate between different unconsciouses?

[Anonymous No.14745675]

>>14745510
>Christianity
>European
yikes bro. The Bible is nothing but Jewish stories about a people and its exploits that speaks nothing to the soul of the European.

[Anonymous No.14745678]

>>14745581
Spelling it Wedic

[Anonymous No.14745679]

>>14745665
he's saying that kikes are lower than germanics and they better learn to cope with that fact or there will be anudda shoah

[Anonymous No.14745695]

>>14745679
Isn't collective unconsciouses supposed to be shared by all beings? How does he make the distinction?

[Anonymous No.14745812]

>>14742832
I read Jung's essay on Wotan and frankly it's disturbing. The ideas in it have stayed with me for longer than I had expected and I find that troubling.

[Anonymous No.14745817]

>>14745812
Insha'Odin(pbuh)

[Anonymous No.14745839]

>>14745812
because you know it's true and he's coming back

>If we apply are admittedly peculiar point of view consistently, we are driven to conclude that Wotan must, in time, reveal not only the restless, violent, stormy side of his character, but, also, his ecstatic and mantic qualities — a very different aspect of his nature. If this conclusion is correct, National Socialism would not be the last word. Things must be concealed in the background which we cannot imagine at present, but we may expect them to appear in the course of the next few years or decades.Wotan’s reawakening is a stepping back into the past; the stream was damned up and has broken into its old channel. But the Obstruction will not last forever;it is rather a reculer pour mieux sauter, and the water will overleap the obstacle. Then, at last, we shall know what Wotan is saying when he “murmers with Mimir’s head."

[Anonymous No.14745845]

>>14742832
>white man
>germanic
HAHAHAHA no

[Anonymous No.14745854]

>>14745812
>Perhaps we may sum up this general phenomenon as Ergriffenheit — a state of being seized or possessed. The term postulates not only an Ergriffener (one who is seized) but, also, an Ergreifer (one who seizes). Wotan is an Ergreifer of men, and, unless one wishes to deify Hitler– which has indeed actually happened — he is really the only explanation. It is true that Wotan shares this quality with his cousin Dionysus, but Dionysus seems to have exercised his influence mainly on women. The maenads were a species of female storm-troopers, and, according to mythical reports, were dangerous enough. Wotan confined himself to the berserkers, who found their vocation as the Blackshirts of mythical kings.

[Anonymous No.14746007]

>>14745695
Far asI know, if collective unconscious is not universal it would make all his writings relativistic and thus false. Basically anyone could interpret stuff as they wanted.

[Anonymous No.14746024]

>>14743117
The coming Kali Yuga will soon leade to a fusion of their ideals. While I may not be a fan of Hitler's plainer political views I can get behind his esotericism or that of his supporters.

[Anonymous No.14746175]

https://discord.gg/FFwRXKq

[Anonymous No.14746256]

>>14745839
>>14745854
based wotan

[Anonymous No.14746265]

>a qt maenad will never tear you limb from limb
you nazis just don't get it

[Anonymous No.14746884]

>>14745635
>Blaming the harmless blacks for the deeds of Anglos and Jews.

[Anonymous No.14746903]

>>14742832
Because Wotan/Neechee got btfo by Wagner who got btfo by the implications of his work

[Anonymous No.14746909]

>>14742832
I find it funny that Jung considered Christianity the greatest religion but people read a few excerpts from that garbage blog -not even actually reading the Wotan essay- and use it as some sort of LARPy pagan justification.

I have nothing against Paganism on a whole, on the contrary I find it quite interesting and that entails naturally that I think it has much value as religion a thing itself does. But this whole cringey "muh christcuckism" "muh original definitely the same ancestor religion" is just cringe. From what would even be possible to make a religion out of it(conceiving we can look at it anyway other than academically), all one has to do is see Christianity or Buddhism and all the likes are vastly superior. Of course there is that unique aesthetic spirit which cannot be reproduced but that does not elevate it beyond positive hierarchy.

>>14742839
Though the books on this chart are mostly universal classics, it doesn't seem to go beyond a basic conception of Paganism as "in-europe" and as a result one can tell the ordering is very basic.

[Anonymous No.14746918]

>>14742964
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA ARE FUCKING RETARDED?

>>14743117
Traditionalism has much value, but as an active practice is morally corrupt.

>>14744241
Based.

>>14745399
Do you actually feel an emotional reaction to this capeshit?

>>14745510
Based.

>>14745476
>>14745528
>>14745556
>>14745570
This is why I left /pol/. You must literally have the intelligence of a smart negro to follow these logical conclusions.

[Anonymous No.14746924]

>>14745594
>then it would be less artificial.
THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CIVILISATION YOU COMPLETE FUCKING NONCE DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW RADICAL A CHANGE THAT WOULD BE YOU UTTER FUCKING DEGENERATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.14746931]

>>14745603
>Jesus was a Jew
Unironically not even what the NatSoc Pagans believed.

>>14745634
Do you literally just read blogs and quotes for your sources on Jung anon? That's fine if you're still new to him or young, but please, read some of his works. I think you will find he valued Christianity very highly.

[Anonymous No.14746936]

>>14745635
>niggers convert to native populations religion
>the religion is made for niggers
Retard.

[Anonymous No.14746941]

>>14745679
>that picture
>threatening another "shoah"
Leave this board.

[Anonymous No.14746949]

>>14746936
>the religion is made for niggers
Not what he said, you should learn to read

[Anonymous No.14746948]

>>14745854
Your picture is capeshit and your use of it is proof of a lack of aesthetical judgement or appreciation.

[Anonymous No.14746951]

>>14746924

It stems from the same root
https://youtu.be/XSVZB3zJ35I

[Anonymous No.14746955]

>>14746931
>Unironically not even what the NatSoc Pagans believed.
Why wouldn’t it be? It’s the truth

[Anonymous No.14746969]

>>14746949
>Christianity is going to be completely assimilated by negros and it's totally not white :DDDD
Yeah, real big difference.

Go back to /pol/ retard. You don't belong here, you don't read.

>>14746951
Imagine misunderstanding the basic principles of civilisation this much. And did you seriously just post a survive the jive video? Yeah I know about the Indo-European invasions idiot, most people here do naturally and they don't need a youtuber to be recommended to them to learn about it- unlike pol.

That vast potentiality of being with which the character can inhabit defines his existence. A completely different ideal inhabits Europe and Asia(when speaking of its European elements; otherwise if I don't say this you will sperg out). Different cultural and foundational differences in their place in the world. You make the same mistake the traditionalist do in denying the unique life-moment of the symbol. This is not what Hitler wanted.

One may say the heights of Hinduism and the heights Christianity/Paganism(if you want) are the same, or really get into that same heart of being, but they do not open in anyway to becoming the other.

[Anonymous No.14746970]

>>14746918
>t. christcuck

[Anonymous No.14746973]

>>14745603
I don't know if it makes it any more palatable, but Christ isn't a Jewish person according to orthodox christology. There is no "man" Jesus, only the God-man Jesus. Christ confirms this when he said "before Abraham was, I am". There were no Jews before Abraham.

[Anonymous No.14746977]

>>14746969
>Christianity is going to be completely assimilated by negros and it's totally not white :DDDD
Yes, that is a different statement (and also true) than the stupid thing you said. Please learn to read.

[Anonymous No.14746979]

>>14746973
Jesus is fully man and fully God. Therefore he was fully Jewish when he walked in earth.

[Anonymous No.14747004]

>>14746955
>National Socialism in the year of 1937 was omniscient
The absolute state of these ideologically corrupted polacks.

Hitler was a great-man of history, but there will be more to come, and he is not the last. Do not make that mistake. However ignoring your blind response, it is what they believed. Even the most Pagan Christian hating of NatSocs admired Christ. As did Hitler(who definitely wasn't a Pagan lol). There wasn't a universal statement on Christ within National Socialism, Hitler had respect for the religious element of the Christ-myth, while others at the very least thought of him also as a great-man of history. Though there definitely is an Aryan influence on the Old Testament, it is far too hard to completely claim and decipher.

>>14746970
Are you lacking in all self-awareness?

>>14746977
>Yes, that is a different statement (and also true) than the stupid thing you said. Please learn to read.
Enough with the bitchy replies woman. The difference is mutable, you hold on to being right too much for so little a thing.

sage

[Anonymous No.14747008]

>>14746979
>all powerful God must be jewish because jews are part of existence

[Anonymous No.14747025]

>>14746979
The so-called "Jews" first appeared in the second or third century AD and as an explicit reaction to Christianity.

Indeed, the one and only defining characteristic of the "Jewish" religion is the rejection of Christ the Savior.

Christ can't be "Jewish" since that would mean he rejects his own self.

[Anonymous No.14747033]

>>14747025
polacks think Jews have existed exactly as they have now culturally and racially for the past 3, 000 years.

[Anonymous No.14747038]

>>14746979
He was fully man in that he assumed an impersonal universal human nature in the Incarnation; however, there is only one subject present in the person of Christ, the Second Person of the Trinity. Because of the hypostatic union, what we can say of one nature we can say of the whole Christ. This is why we can say that God died and that God had a mother. Christ is truly man but not a human person.

[Anonymous No.14747044]

>>14747004
cringe
>>14747008
or because he came to the tribe of Israel, he chose the Jews as his only people for a few thousand years, salvation is of the jews and because he was literally a jewish rabbi.
>>14747025
yeah yeah the jews didn't exist yet but also remember when Jesus talked about the den of vipers, he was referring to jews. The Jews are fake Jews we are the real Jews, praise Elohim.

[Anonymous No.14747053]

>>14742832
For me, it's Enki.

[Anonymous No.14747056]

>>14747038
Christ wasn't Jewish but remember to bow down to The Holy Prepuce.

[Anonymous No.14747060]

>>14747004
>look just because you’re right doesn’t mean you have to hurt my feelings about it
And you have the audacity to call anyone else a woman. Bump

[Anonymous No.14747061]

>>14747033
>polacks
Jews, you mean?

[Anonymous No.14747062]

>>14742832
How about piss off with the magickal bullshit for once? Magick is a novelty at this point.

[Anonymous No.14747064]

>>14747062
nigga he's talking about Jung not D&D

[Anonymous No.14747085]

>>14747056
Christ was Jewish but he was not a Jewish person. You're operating on the assumption that Christ was merely a man. If you want a Christian "antisemitic" take, Justin Martyr said that the Jews were God's chosen people not because they were the greatest but because they were the least. Remember that Christ did not come as an earthly king but a humble servant.

[Anonymous No.14747086]

>>14747044
>an actual LARPer calls me cringe
kek.

>hasn't read the Bible
ahh anon. Alright, well firstly, tell me what the tribe of Israel is. Define it. Is it linguistic, is it regional, is it religious, or is it racial? Or was it as facts describe, "Judea" being a term for all of these things?

But tell me, do you honestly think Jews have existence exactly as they have now culturally and racially for the past 3, 000 years?

>yeah yeah the jews didn't exist yet but also remember when Jesus talked about the den of vipers, he was referring to jews. The Jews are fake Jews we are the real Jews, praise Elohim.
Do you have any idea how many explanations there are for this? You haven't read the NT however what Jesus was referring to was a corruption. The "jews" enter different points of definition depending on the context. This is just simply an obvious fact alone, however we can see them enter into a more modern(or really predominate) existence and definition after the death of Christ and the Babylonian Talmud.

[Anonymous No.14747087]

>>14747064
Magick has nothing to do with D&D. It's the central fascination of all esotericists and the occult which Jung and all Jungians are fond of, a naive tradition going back centuries.

[Anonymous No.14747098]

>>14747060
IT WAS THE SAME FUCKING THING YOU RETARD! How are you actually still debating this? Saying "oh no sorry it's still a subhuman religion that will be destroyed by niggers except it was for jews" is soo different from saying niggers. Do yourself talk lad? You are mentally limited.

>>14747061
The odd similarity's become obvious.

[Anonymous No.14747101]

>>14747062
>>14747087
>Magick
I always new modern pagans were gay.

[Anonymous No.14747102]

The pagan gods lost to Christianity, so badly that we don't even know anything about them for the most part. In societies current state there will never be a new religion made, "prophets" and the like are just called schizo, insane, cringe, etc. So what are we left with:

1) Dying christian religion: LGBTQ friendly of course, will import and cuck themselves at any chance. Hates whites, loves niggers, is Jewish.
2) Political religion such as communism/natsoc. Except this is now impossible due to past failure. The eternal normalfag would rather suck jew cock and willingly die for billionaires, than save himself and his country.

In other words its over. Culture, heritage, religion, everything. The white race is already dead, either they suck niggerdick or they suck jew cock. Take your pick.

[Anonymous No.14747106]

>>14747101
Fascists were big on it, and they were extremely gay. Anyway, magick is bullshit.

[Anonymous No.14747107]

>>14747106
You've never heard of magic have you anon?

[Anonymous No.14747109]

>>14747098
I’m not debating anything, you’re sperging out about being wrong and I’m replying because it amuses me

[Anonymous No.14747112]

>>14747102
Islam?

[Anonymous No.14747115]

>>14747109
>and I’m replying because it amuses me
Oh of course, we got a real intellectual anon here. One who is beyond common discourse.

Don't tell me you take 4chan sperging seriously? I'm intellectual.

[Anonymous No.14747117]

how do we reclaim the entirety of Indo-European heritage from Semitic and Dravidian invaders?

[Anonymous No.14747120]

>>14747102
I think it was Chesterton who said that all the true Pagans converted to Christianity. This is because in the pagan worldview, might is right, time will make the conquerors the conquered and woe to the vanquished. The earliest Germanic converts were still pagan because they saw Christ through their own pagan worldview, as a God who conquered their gods. One of the reasons Charlemagne massacred the Saxons is because by refusing to accept Christ, they betrayed their own paganism and so he gave them their own punishment for treachery which was death.

[Anonymous No.14747121]

>>14747115
>we got a real intellectual anon here. One who is beyond common discourse.
Yes.

[Anonymous No.14747124]

>>14747112
Of course just join the religion of the greatest and ultimate enemy of Europe throughout history. What could go wrong?

[Anonymous No.14747132]

>>14747107
I'm the one who brought it up in this gay thread, ya dingus.

[Anonymous No.14747146]

>>14746973
>but Christ isn't a Jewish person according to orthodox christology
then why do we have INRI written on every cross?

[Anonymous No.14747160]

>>14745581
Varuna comes to mind, many similarities. At least in the Veda. In current hinduism he is merely a god of sea and but a memory of his former self, no longer reigning above night and sky and bewitching people with his magic.

[Anonymous No.14747162]

>>14747132
>magick
>magic

[Anonymous No.14747165]

>>14747085
>Jesus was Jewish but he was not a Jewish person
Not interested in your 2000 year old cognitive dissonant cope.

[Anonymous No.14747180]

>>14747162
This, adding a k makes it more gay. i know its to distinguish from parlor tricks, but one shouldnt be concerned about mixing these up.

[Anonymous No.14747230]

>>14747162
Really, magickfag? This is what you're hung up on?

[Anonymous No.14747507]

>>14747115
Are you nick fuentes or owen Benjamin

[Anonymous No.14748204]

based thread

[Anonymous No.14748920]

>>14746931
>>14747086
>>14747004
t. seething christkike

[Anonymous No.14749775]

>>14742832
paganism is gay

[Anonymous No.14749790]

>>14747507
Nick Fuentes, but I share characteristics with Sam Hyde as well.

[Anonymous No.14749828]

>>14747180
It's not even a distinguishment like that, purely ideological insertion attached to that k.

>>14747230
If you don't know the difference it just sounds like a "muh wiccan goddes nebawoo is actual pronounced neba-wee-no" but they are fundamentally different things by definition. One is traditional and one is literally gay.

>>14748920
>wrongly uses National Socialism for his irrational hatred of Jesus Christ
>wrongly uses Jung for his irrational hatred of Christ
>has read neither
And you're suppose to greentext the t retard otherwise you're just talking about yourself.

Go back to /pol/.

[Anonymous No.14749829]

>>14742832
If you care about Odin more as a racial sky daddy than for what import he was to those Germanic peoples by the same token as Mercury, Hermes, Thoth, Nebo et al for their peoples, you're missing the point.

[Anonymous No.14750381]

>>14749828
>magic and magick
tell me, how many crystals do you have in your room right now?

[Anonymous No.14751943]

>>14746024
We are in kal yug homie. We have been for millenia

[Anonymous No.14751984]

>christianity?
>more like, KIKEstianity, heil Wotan :DDDDdd

https://broadly-images.vice.com/images/2016/11/07/pagan-pleasures-photos-of-australias-biggest-witch-coven-gathering-body-image-1478495942.jpg?resize=1050:*

[Anonymous No.14752041]

>>14749829
Well something like this is to be expected. People today don't have anything connecting them to their ancestors except their race, atleast most of the time. When all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.

[Anonymous No.14752606]

The problem with xtianity is that has built in vectors for jewish subversion. it can never again unite european people

[Anonymous No.14752690]

>>14742832
https://discord.gg/gKSXuVK