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is passion and soul the only thing required to produce anything good?

>> No.14676260

Yes.

>> No.14676264

>>14676256
Only God can create beautiful things; he only temporarily uses people for the act of beautiful creation. You must submit.

>> No.14676269

>>14676256
No you need coffee but wow look how unique she is ahahahahahahaaha


nah but really I typed that subconsciously, what I meant to say that if Goethe had the same intelligence as J. D. Salinger Faust would have been a children's book about a dragon.

You think the complexity of Wagner's music was simply creativity, hmm?

>> No.14676281

>>14676264
this is true, but god is in all of us
>>14676269
creativity and intelligence aren't really that far apart, are they?

>> No.14676293

>>14676256
absolutely not, passion and soul can run out, discipline is essential for getting anything worth a damn done son

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14676313

Talent, knowledge and drive (passion)
“Soul” is found in the first two

>> No.14676342

Passion and soul account for about 5% of the process. Everything else is discipline.

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14676350

>tfw no trafficked russian prisoner gf

>> No.14676357

>>14676342
Discipline is passion and knowledge. Or dedication/skill

>> No.14676385

Honestly, you just need honesty. Sincerity is king.

>> No.14676684

>>14676281
>creativity and intelligence aren't really that far apart, are they?
Idk I think I'm kinda creative but I can't do calculus or anything like that

>> No.14676719

No. You just need to be smarter than your audience. Think about how easy it is to impress a legitimately, no fault of their own, dumb person basic trivia. When you are impressed by something it is the same thing, you are the retard having their mind blown by someone several times more intelligent than you. That is all there is too it.

>> No.14676894

>>14676281
I.Q has nothing to do with creativity if thats what your asking. But, having a high I.Q. probably limits you from doing specific variations of creative things. If Faulkner was an intellectual academic his books would have been more limited and maybe not even timeless. Creativity isen't a set thing at birth but your passion is honestly what drives that creativity and THAT is something that your born with.

>> No.14677007 [DELETED] 

>>14676894
IQ isn't real

>> No.14677046

>>14676281
>creativity and intelligence aren't really that far apart, are they?
They build upon the other sure, but they are still separate. I am talking about memory intelligence to be clear.

>> No.14677078

>>14676894
IQ is not a good determiner for intelligence. It's a good determiner for retardation.

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14677279

Preemptive TL;DR: IQ matters, and it does measure general intelligence, but it isn't the only thing that matters, which of course noone says it is.

>>14676894
Clearly creativity is about more than intelligence, and inspiration or some spark is obviously at play. Nonetheless, creative acts are dependent on a person's capacity to *think* and problem-solve.

>Meta-analytic findings suggest that the correlation between creative potential and intelligence generally is around r = .20 (Kim, 2005). Besides its relationship to intelligence, personality correlates of creative potential have been extensively studied. The most consistent and significant finding is that creative potential is positively related to openness to experiences (cf., Batey & Furnham, 2006; Feist, 2010). Openness is thought to reflect an “investment trait” relevant to creative potential (Chamorro-Premuzic & Furnham, 2005). Moreover, openness can be associated with actual creative achievement (King, Walker, & Broyles, 1996). Open people are imaginative and curious, which forms a good basis for creative endeavors across all domains. On the contrary, the relationship to other personality traits such as conscientiousness or neuroticism strongly depends on the investigated domain. While conscientiousness may be promotive of scientific creativity, artistic creativity is related to emotional instability (Batey & Furnham, 2006).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3682183/

>>14677078
No. IQ matters across the entire spectrum, and how much it matters depends on what you're trying to do. I assume you're getting this from Taleb, so yes, in the examples he cites, ie driving a car, most of the variance occurs on the low end of the scale, but the same is not true of IQ's correlation with creativity, as the paper I posted notes:

>Taken together, our results point to different constellations of traits that are relevant to creative potential in lower and higher IQ samples: While divergent thinking ability may be supported by a lack of conscientiousness, i.e. “impulsive creativity”, in lower intelligent persons, higher creative potential in more intelligent individuals may stem from higher openness to experiences. Higher openness may foster the acquisition of a broader general knowledge and thus support creativity (Cho et al., 2010).

>> No.14677310

>>14676264

Calvinism was a mistake

>> No.14677333

>>14676350
I thought she was brazilian