/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14666850]

What can be done to make pocs read more books?

[Anonymous No.14666868]

As an English teacher, the vast majority of children do not want to read, let alone poc's where reading is usually not actively encouraged in the household. There are simply too many more readily entertaining mediums available today, i.e. video games, streaming, tiktok, etc.
Anyone who thinks turning Dracula into a black guy will make more young black people read is severely deluded.

[Anonymous No.14666870]

>>14666850

[Anonymous No.14666886]

So, just black people? Personally I would love to see an Ainu Odysseus and a Maori Sir Roland (face tatts and all).

[Anonymous No.14666890]

[Anonymous No.14666893]

>>14666850
simple - just make ahab black!

[Anonymous No.14666930]

>>14666850
i thought pol were just crazy, bitter people, why is this happening?

[Anonymous No.14666935]

>>14666930
1. Changing the wrapper of a product is often enough to make people thing the product itself has been altered
2. To demoralise whites.

[Anonymous No.14666939]

[Anonymous No.14666943]

>>14666893
>curious
I fucking hate these types of faggots that take on this air of detached inquiry while being cordycepted morons looking for a pat on the head.
>"Curious ... I'm CURIOUS. I'm BEWILDERED and in AWE that this event isn't in line with the social justice boilerplate spread by the media, giant foundations, academia, corporations, and the establishment".

[Anonymous No.14666946]

Dumb them down

[Anonymous No.14666950]

>>14666930
Corporations have been virtue signalling as a selling point for what, 10 years?

[Anonymous No.14666992]

>>14666893

A movie adaptation of Moby Dick with a black captain ahab played by samuel l jackson would probably work.

[Anonymous No.14667004]

>>14666992
I'AM TIRED OF THIS MOTHEFUCKING WALE IN THIS MOTHEFUCKING OCEAN

[Anonymous No.14667012]

Why do you care though? Like what harm are you personally experiencing from little Daquan and Shaniqua momentarily thinking to themselves "cool, blacks on the cover". You really want to be victims so badly and now I actually hope there's some global conspiracy to genocide you wiggas because it seems like you really want to experience pain

[Anonymous No.14667015]

>Nigger Island
>Moby Spic
>Alice's Adventures in the Hood
>Tyrone and Lashawnda

[Anonymous No.14667023]

>>14666868
Then fix it you dumbfuck. The problem isn't reading, it's the shitty books you make them read. Kids can't relate to Victorian London or old timey bullshit. Make them read things that actually gets them excited for learning.
It's so condescending being forced to read Catcher in the Rye when you are a sophomore because it basically ruins a great novel.
>See? Even teenagers in the 50s were just as miserable and angsty as you! You should have so much in common!
The whole curriculum needs to be torched with a flame thrower and we need to start over.

But one thing is for sure, don't try to pander to brown kids, because they're already a lost cause.

[Anonymous No.14667030]

>white genocide isn't real guys, i swear!
>we're just replacing your literature, music, art, history, philosophy, government, and demographics...no biggie

It blows my mind how people are still completely baffled how fascism and the right wing is growing when shit like OP's pic exists.

[Anonymous No.14667031]

>>14667012
>Why do you care though?
I don't think anyone really did, for the longest time that is, but it's just so tiresome at this point you can't help but sigh at least a bit.
These covers are trash and the intent behind them is laughable.

[Anonymous No.14667044]

>>14666943
>cordycepted morons
I like that line.

[Anonymous No.14667045]

>>14666850
I applaud this endeavour. It’ll be a source of amusement for me and the negro subhumans get to feel good about themselves. Everybody wins!

>Bergblattsteins Monster
>Dr.Pajeet and Mr Scat
>Lamarcus Pan
>Blackula
>Haramlet
the list goes on

[Anonymous No.14667048]

>>14667023
This is a meme. The problem isn't that the books aren't interesting to kids (although I'm not saying you couldn't put better books on the curriculum), it's the act of reading itself, especially when it's associated at school. Someone being associated with school work automatically makes it lose it's charm for kids, no matter what it is. Honestly you just aren't going to get a lot of kids to read no matter what you do.

[Anonymous No.14667054]

>>14667048
Illegalize reading and start a CIA-funded book black market. I guarantee kids would quadruple their reading in a year.

[Anonymous No.14667057]

>>14666935
Look I would be considered an right wing extremist by a lot of people. But it is completely delusional to think that there is an campaign to demoralise white people. Several marketing studies all say the same thing. POC in commercials in western liberal countries sells. Especially among white people. Do you also know that men are more likely to buy a product if the commercial involves a stereotypical strong independent woman? Stop with this silly conspiracy cope. It will never bring change if right wingers keep on talking bout cultural marxism. It’s only preaching to the choir (or how the Anglo expression goes). The problem is capitalism.

[Anonymous No.14667065]

>>14667057
>men are more likely to buy a product if the commercial involves a stereotypical strong independent woman
Why?

[Anonymous No.14667067]

>>14667057
Source?

[Anonymous No.14667078]

>>14667030
>invade nonwhite lands good
>invade white lands bad
???

[Simon Magus !!B6w9tJAyfF8 No.14667080]

>>14667065
They fantasize about dominating her while the commercial is playing which releases dopamine and causes them to associate the product with feeling good

[Anonymous No.14667102]

>>14667048
Actually it has a lot more to do with the curriculums that have been standardized in order to maximize test scores and minimize turnovers (dropouts and flunkies). These standardized curriculums are utter cancer to the point that an exit exam for high school still has you asking yourself how many apples a bitch is holding if you give her four more. Of course these little shits aren't going to be reading more than one play and a short story throughout their semester, the retards, browns, and flunkies can't be labeled as "behind" because then it's the school's fault. It's really got a lot to do with self accountability as well. But I digress, these curriculums really do lack any substance of a real education, and the only real way to get an education now is to either go private or upper level competitive classes (honors or AP), which really don't give a shit about substance either, it's all about test scores.

>plus no one fucking reads, reading is for nerds

[Anonymous No.14667115]

>>14666868
>>14667023
>Kids can't relate to Victorian London or old timey bullshit

This. Jesus Christ, I was forced to read chicklit novels from the 40s in school as a 15 year old boy. Even Shakespeare, which is really just a popular film from a distance, needs a supplementary book or extensive footnotes to so much as translate what the hell characters are saying or referencing.

I understand why classics and literature as a whole is important, but when you're trying to encourage someone who doesn't read at all to suddenly pick up a book, Moby Dick is not where they should start. You don't throw a kid who has lived their life in a landlocked desert into the middle of the ocean and tell them to swim back to land with confidence.

[Anonymous No.14667117]

>>14666850
This seems like a bad excuse to give racist caricature artists a job. Even if it is ostensibly to promote diversity, this seems like a very bad idea.

[Anonymous No.14667119]

>>14666992
Yeah if you want to shit all over Melville and the book and its entire historical context.

[Anonymous No.14667133]

>lit's brillaint idea on how to make children read is to just teach them harry potter and john green novels
absolute state of this board

[Anonymous No.14667145]

>>14667115
>needs a supplementary book or extensive footnotes to so much as translate what the hell characters are saying or referencing.
Brainlet

[Anonymous No.14667153]

>>14666850
Teaching them how to read would be a great start.

[Anonymous No.14667172]

>>14666893

>Readers are meant to see themselves in the pages of fiction

This is the problem. Right fucking here, this is the root cause of identarian politics. Imagine being so vain, so worthless and without imagination, that after devoting your time to reading an entire bookshelf of literature all you find at the end of it is your same old unchanged self. Incredible.

[Anonymous No.14667176]

>>14666893
>pocs need pocs to relate
Does that mean that whites are right to complain about less representation in media?

[Anonymous No.14667186]

>>14667102
>>14667115
you're both missing the target because there is no problem to begin with. Willfully illiterate people deserve the shitty curriculum they get. Reading was never for the majority so why force it down their throats? You really think just because they change the skin color on some covers that people will actually pick up the book and read it AND appreciate it? No, they're just going to wait for the movie adaptation and THAT will be their version of "inclusivity." This is a good filtering system because even if a thousand low-tier, for-dummies remakes/revisions/adaptations were made based on a classic, the original itself remains untouched, autonomous and valuable to the few-- as it should be.
>the vast majority of children do not want to read
i'm an english teacher too and the only "classics" that I ever include in my syllabus is oedipus rex and the legend of the buddha in the simplest and shortest translations i can find. nearly half of my readings are films because that's the dominant and most appealing genre to the yunguns. I'm giving them an education fit for their sensibilities, their IQ and their generation. If they will never experience reading god-tier classics like C&P ever in their lives, that's their loss, not mine.

[Anonymous No.14667188]

>>14666850
jesus the absolute state

[Anonymous No.14667192]

>>14667186
also, you only should start to worry if they do start REWRITING the classics to replace the original version until it's out of print. That's where you load the gun

[Anonymous No.14667196]

>>14667015


>Yo, yo: me's Ishmaal mayn.

[Anonymous No.14667197]

>>14667172
Agreed. What happened to looking through someone else's eyes and imagining yourself in their shoes? If they want more POCs in the literary manifest, they should write more shit. This is just plagiarism in retard levels

[Anonymous No.14667231]

>>14667172
>>14667197
It's such a brainlet take too. Apparently these people can't identify with other human beings unless they are the exact same as them in the first place.

[Anonymous No.14667245]

>>14667023
No. Reading is simply not as engaging as other forms of media at least not as instantly and easily.

[Anonymous No.14667258]

>>14667023
>>14667245
The issue with reading is it requires far more effort than any other form of entertainment. This is an impossibility with a lazy population. Not just lazy, hell I'm lazy, but fucking morons in a stupor every day.

[Anonymous No.14667270]

>>14667057
Liar.

[Anonymous No.14667273]

>>14667057
Comrade, you make us proud.

[Anonymous No.14667296]

>>14667172
You are right. Though certain works can resonate with us on a more personal level (I get the feeling that this also plays a part in why /lit/ likes Notes from Underground, for example), it is absolutely braindead to dislike a book just because the protagonist is is unrelateable. Imagine what a shallow protagonist must be the one who was written in such a way that most readers can self-insert as him.

[Anonymous No.14667299]

>>14667197
You expect them to write anything valuable? They have no creativity, all they can do is steal. Look at what Disney's shitting out lately. Nothing new, just adaptations of their older movies.

[Anonymous No.14667306]

>everyone missing the fact that its a way to sell YET AGAIN works in the public domain
I looked, and lo, the sneaky jew

[Anonymous No.14667323]

They should release The Turner Diaries but with black main characters on the cover.

[Anonymous No.14667329]

>>14667323
>da turnah mixtapes

[Anonymous No.14667332]

>>14666850
i hope you guys realise how the rest of the world points towards america and bongland and laughs when something utterly moronic like this happens

[Anonymous No.14667346]

>>14667172
Yeah, with that mindset we shouldn't read books with women main characters, let alone pocs

[Anonymous No.14667348]

>>14667332
Your country will soon do the same, don't worry.

[Anonymous No.14667350]

>>14667078
“Yes”

[Anonymous No.14667354]

>>14667332
I wish you guys were more vocal about it. Not just talking about it on 4chan or youtube, but constantly criticizing these losers on facebook and twitter, taking out ads on TV, all the way up to your political leaders shitting on us in public.

[Anonymous No.14667360]

>>14667231
this is why I don't understand identity politics and all the fuss with "diversity" and "inclusivity" because
>identify with other human beings
is literally the primary use of literature. That is elementary-level intro to lit in middle school. It's even midwit illogical self-hating irony because they are basically saying that they can only express their identities through the blueprint of these "white" stories. In a way, they're conceding that white literature is so superior that it has the power to "empower" them.

>>14667299
>you expect them to write anything valuable?
No because I would have a different standard of "value" or quality compared to them. I'm saying if they think their experiences are so important and universal to everyone else except themselves then they should produce their own works. But like you said, they're only beginning to discover that they don't have the sensibility to write well, let alone write a good story. This "hurr durr more POCs in book covers" is just cope over the realization of their own lack of talent

[Anonymous No.14667367]

>>14667296
>Imagine what a shallow protagonist must be the one who was written in such a way that most readers can self-insert as him.
Literally 90% of anime and light novels. Good point.

[Anonymous No.14667387]

>>14667354
Possibly the most cucked thing I've ever read on this site

[Anonymous No.14667398]

>>14667057
>I'm a right wing extremist
>uses the words 'conspiracy', 'cope', and 'right wingers'
You're not fooling anyone with your tepid attempts at masquerade.

[Anonymous No.14667429]

>>14666868
this. i spent my entire childhood and teens playing video games and hadn't fully read a single book that wasn't for school until i was probably 21

[Anonymous No.14667433]

>>14666893
>readers are meant to see themselves in the pages of fiction
why the fuck do characters have to be the same race as you to connect with them? that bias is on the reader and not on the fiction itself

[Anonymous No.14667434]

>>14667360
I would have zero problems with reading something written by a POC as long as it was well written. There are many Japanese writings that I like. I also quite enjoyed Half a Lifelong Romance by Eileen Chang. Maybe they should try to write well instead of brownwashing everything they can get their hands on.
>they think their experiences are so important and universal to everyone
Many of them unironically do. Yet no one was ever able to properly articulate what exactly it is that makes those experiences worth reading about.

[Anonymous No.14667439]

>>14666893
>non whites have such inferior brains that they don't even have the brainpower to use imagination

[Anonymous No.14667441]

>>14667433
because people of different races think differently and are interested in different things.
I know, big revelation.

[Anonymous No.14667442]

>>14667434
>comparing Japanese to "POCs"

There's a reason why Japanese can read and write and why POCs can't and it doesn't have to do with culture.

[Anonymous No.14667444]

>>14667023
>Kids can't relate to Victorian London or old timey bullshit.
I remember how disgusted I felt after reading all the modern YA shit my teachers assigned me to read. I Am Legend, Romeo and Juliet, Saki, Poe, Bram Stoker, Horacio Quiroga, Prince Caspian, were some of the best things I had to read.

[Simon Magus !!B6w9tJAyfF8 No.14667448]

Start putting out books where the pages are flavored in grape and menthol

[Anonymous No.14667454]

>>14666850
POC here. I'm a Congolese immigrant in the UK and I started reading when I was 18/19, 21 now. What made me wanna read was firstly having a reason to. Most people don't really have a reason to but they at least think that reading would make then more informed. That isn't enough of an incentive. I used to argue with Catholics on the internet and that made me interested in church history so i got this set of books on church history and started reading during work. I got through all the apostolic fathers and ready every church father texts up irenaus, probs spelt his name wrong. Now I read history and economics because I think they're helpful in making me achieve my goal but i think the actual way to make more POC, or anyone for that matter, to read more is to create a purpose or a need to read. But then again that still won't work. They have to have big enough of an incentive and value it enough and anything can trigger that. Me being an argumentative little prick is what triggered it for me. Still a brainlet though.
:pensive:

[Anonymous No.14667456]

>>14667442
I wasn't meaning to compare them, I just wanted to make a point that certain non-whites are capable of writing well.

[Anonymous No.14667458]

POC = Person Of Color
It took me several minutes to figure out the meaning. Can't anglos say blacks anymore?

[Anonymous No.14667466]

>>14667456
yeah I mean, that's why its a silly distinction.
lumping niggers in with japanese, colombians, argentinians is just silly.

Everybody knows niggers don't have it in them to write anything of substance, it's just taboo to say it.

[Anonymous No.14667484]

>>14667102
>It's really got a lot to do with self accountability as well.
This is the only thing I don't agree with- 99% of a child's results in school are based on factors that have nothing to do with the kid and everything to do with parents and teachers. If there's no one reading at home, it's really hard for a kid to start reading as well. Especially when schools crush you through the exam hamster-wheel. THe problem is the current curriculums assume you can read at a 5th grade level by grade 5, but they pinned teacher pay/benefits to student pass rate, and parents don't like having their kids fail, so the kid gets passed into a class they're not ready for.

[Anonymous No.14667486]

>>14666850
What really infuriates me is their twisted definition of diversity. They want to impose the definition of diversity as referring to either basketball americans (which shows how utterly clueless and racist they actually are, they think all black people are like African Americans and they listen to rap and shit) or heavily mixed brown mongrel of indeterminate origin with exactly one token Hindu/Sikh. Asians are shunted to the side, Native Americans don't exist, the myriad different groups that lived/live in Europe itself. This is some Orwellian twisting of words to fit their agenda

[Anonymous No.14667494]

>>14667486
Exactly. I wrote a story with a german, a frenchman, an anglo, a romanian-american, and a jap, and it still got passed over. I find/replaced their race to nigger and spic without changing any other aspect of the characters and it got accepted.

[Anonymous No.14667496]

>>14667458
The idea is that POC can mean a lot of different ethnicities all at once(pretty much any minority). A lot do, but it's not the useful terminology now and hasn't been since like the 80s anon. For black people in the US 'black' is colloquial, African-American is the official term.

[Anonymous No.14667498]

>>14667004

[Anonymous No.14667512]

>>14667496
>it's not the useful terminology now and hasn't been since like the 80s anon
I literally never heard this retarded term until like 2 years ago

[Anonymous No.14667618]

It makes me sad to see people dismiss classic novels as “white men”
LITERATURE WAS A WHITE THING IN THE 19TH CENTURY. EVERYONE ELSE WAS TOO BUSY TRYING TO FEED THEMSELVES TO WRITE FUCKING BOOKS

[Anonymous No.14667621]

>Brownwashing

[Anonymous No.14667628]

>poc
>is always negros