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What few books are actually really essential that you need to have read them in your life?

>> No.14559106

>>14559101
Bible

>> No.14559132
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14559132

>>14559101
>The Bible
>Heraclitus
>Plato and the Neoplatonists
>Augustine
>maybe some stoics
>Ovid
>Beowulf
>Nibelungenlied
>Dante
>Montaigne
>Shakespeare
>Kant
>*various German Idealists if you like*
>Schopenhauer
>Goethe
>Schiller
>Wagner
>Heidegger
>Codreanu(necessary)
>Hitler

Really the essentials anon, but no belief can replace action, and vice versa. No book can really give you experience.

>> No.14559135

>>14559132
>no belief can replace action, and vice versa. No book can really give you experience.
So reading is ultimately pointless?

>> No.14559145

>>14559135
If all you do is sit in your basement and read, then yes.

>> No.14559151

>>14559135
Vice versa anon, no action can replace belief. Being an extrovert myself I would not be content in simply harbouring knowledge like a scholar, but doing. We always take share in both however, and that is expressed in the various complexities of the individual.

In a simple way, this>>14559145

>> No.14559157

Zhuangzi

>> No.14559159
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14559159

Marx's Capital is pretty much all you'll ever need. If you're curious beyond that then stretch out into Marxist-Leninist theory and praxis.

>> No.14559166

>>14559132
>Codreanu
Kill yourself

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14559168

>>14559101
>few books
ngmi
for starters opensyllabus.org

>> No.14559172

>>14559101
Upanisad

>> No.14559179

>>14559151
I read books to reach a critical mass and then it'll manifest into idea or a vision which will serve as a foundation for an movement.
Doing action just for the same of doing action is ultimately pointlessm

>> No.14559189

>>14559159
shit bait

>> No.14559265

>>14559166
Why so angry? He's a good read.

>> No.14559267

>>14559179
>Doing action just for the same of doing action is ultimately pointless
As pointless as belief for belief.

>> No.14559280

>>14559168
That's a good link thank you

>> No.14559310

>>14559265
For shilling your retarded favorite writers in an otherwise legit list. It's like introducing an ad in any content. kill yourself subhuman

>> No.14559388

>>14559267
True. Im not opting for scholar path but merging action and belief is something im struggling on.

>> No.14559397

>>14559101
>essential
good DIY manual
personal investing guide
decent cookbook
atlas

>> No.14559453

>>14559310
cope & that isn't why you said kys

>> No.14559508

>>14559397
>good DIY manual
must be hard not having a dad lol
>personal investing guide
if you can't pay an investor to do the job, you'll always be poor
>decent cookbook
get a wife
>atlas
is this bait ?

>> No.14559541

>>14559508
>good DIY manual
>must be hard not having a dad lol
No that Anon but what is the objective of read if you don't learn something useful?

>> No.14559622

The Bible
Moby Dick

>> No.14559913

>>14559622
>Moby Dick
Why?

>> No.14559942
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14559942

If on a friend's bookshelf
You cannot find Joyce or Sterne
Cervantes, Rabelais, or Burton,

You are in danger, face the fact,
So kick him first or punch him hard
And from him hide behind a curtain.

– Alexander Theroux

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>>14559101
The Great Books of the Western World

>> No.14560763

>>14559913
good read innit

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>>14559942
based

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>>14559132
>Hitler is more important than Milton

>> No.14561245
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>>14559101
Obviously, no specific books are essential for life, but some books add a great deal to your understanding of history, evolution of culture, literature, etc. My very basic Western canon starter kit: just 20 classic authors & works (pre-20th-century) that were so influential and important that knowing them would help with any later literature you might read:
1. The King James Bible
2. Dante
3. Milton
4. Homer
5. Aeneid
6. Graves' Greek Myths
7. Don Quixote
8. Morte d'Arthur
9. One Thousand and One Nights
10. Gulliver's Travels
11. Moby Dick
12. War and Peace
13. Notre-Dame de Paris
14. Beowulf
15. Chaucer
16. Crime and Punishment
17. Shakespeare
18. Gilgamesh
19. Faust
20. The Decameron
(if you had any real interest in medieval I'd add The Pearl-poet, Petrarch, Ovid, Golden Legend, and Boethius)
Of course, if we were going for non-fiction (philosophy, etc.) it would be a completely different list (Plato, Marx, Paine, Machiavelli, Darwin, Aquinas, Smith, Kant, Wollstonecraft, Einstein, etc.) Modern work would need Proust, Joyce, Eliot, Pound, Woolf, James, Orwell, Kafka, Hemingway, etc., and so on. But reading those basic 20 seems like a solid start. I'm aimed at understanding literary references and huge precedents, so the list will always be imperfect.

>> No.14561258

>>14561245
>Gulliver's Travels
I don't understand why this book is so well remembered when A Tale of a Tub is all but forgotten. Gulliver's Travels is Swift's single worst work, albeit his longest work, whereas Tub is his best.

>> No.14561264

>>14559132
>Codreanu
Magyarophobic fuckboy.

>> No.14561287

>>14559101
>what FEW books are essential
Holy Bible
Aesop
Plato
Aristotle
Ovid
Beowulf
Tolkien
Orwell
Sowell

>>14559132
good list but a bit long and missing Aristotle (he was not a Neoplatonist). and don't mind the fags criticising you for Codreanu or Hitler, they're absolutely necessary.

>> No.14561298

>>14559101
Quran

>> No.14561322

>>14561287
>Sowell
kys

>> No.14561369

>>14561322
no u

if everyone read Sowell, they'd start to understand the levers of economics and communications being used against them to keep them divided and from thinking critically.

>> No.14561376

very good compliment to Orwell imo

>> No.14561414

>>14559101
nicomachean ethics
fear and trembling
discipline and punish
on liberty
enquiry concerning human understanding
trial and death of socrates: euthyphro, apologia, meno, crito, phaedo iirc

>> No.14561449

>>14559135
You need both an interior and an exterior world

>> No.14561457

>>14561258
A Tale of a Tub is masterful satire, but GT is more important because the story uses wilder fantasy elements, and it was mislabeled as a children's classic for two centuries, which greatly expanded its influence.

>> No.14561851

>>14561457
It is a children's classic, the reading level is minimal. I understand that the most fantastical elements are satirical allegories, but the point remains.

>> No.14562094

>>14561851
Gulliver's Travels should never have been co-opted for kids, despite the fantastic element. The proof is the constant bowdlerizing and "adapted for kids" it's suffered over the years as publishers tried to clean up the giant nipples and pissing, etc.

>> No.14562110

>>14562094
What child can't cope with a pissing joke?

>> No.14562135

>>14559135
Socrates couldn't read

>> No.14562152

>>14562110
The same ones that can't handle a 300-page 18th-century misanthropic satire. Why are we having this debate? Have you actually read the book in its original form?

>> No.14562222

>>14562152
>The same ones that can't handle a 300-page 18th-century misanthropic satire.
So, lowbrows?

I'm just immensely disappointed that Gulliver's Travels wasn't another Tub. Maybe his brain was already softening, or his Deanship put him in too much contact with children and made pandering too deepset a habit.

>> No.14562340

>>14562222
He got major blowback from Tub, from among the most powerful people in the country. He lost his nerve.

>> No.14562467

>>14561449
But which leads to other?

>> No.14562771

>>14562340
This is true. It damaged his career chances quite a bit, since Queen Anne found it offensive, and Swift's advancement in the church suffered as a result.

>> No.14562883

Essential reads;

Bible
Koran
Great Gatsby
All Shakespeare
The Hungry Catapillar
All works by Robert Burns
Dune
Dracula
Handmaid's Tale
Dubliners
Dracula
1984
Brave New World
Clockwork Orange
How to Kill a Mockingbird
My Booky Wook
Harry Potter
Complete Mr. Men works

>> No.14562904

The only thing you need to read is literally just Metamorphoses by Ovid.

>> No.14563009

>>14562904
Why?

>> No.14563082

>>14563009
Because it’s the greatest piece of literature ever written.