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14527866 No.14527866 [Reply] [Original]

What are non-biased books on Middle Ages? I see commoners repeat what they are badly taught about it being muh Dark Ages, but the way we live today is much more detrimental and unnatural.
Please recommend me good, detailed books on it.
>inb4 ask his
No theyre dumb

>> No.14527880

>>14527866
Is there anything about the Middle Ages in particular you're interested in? It's encompasses many centuries and places. You probably won't see any "muh Dark Ages" stuff unless you're reading books from over a century ago.

>> No.14527996

life was shit you nitwit grow up

>> No.14528006

History is always reinterpreted through the present lens.

>> No.14528197

>>14527996
yeah we didnt have videogames and porn, cant even imagine living a life without these

>> No.14528291
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14528291

>>14527866
>can somdbody recommend some books on x that will validate my existing opinions on x (read: reinforce my worldview)? No, I do not plan on reading any of the books you recommend- I just want somebody to spoonfeed me like the little midwit babby that I am, and if you point this out or challenge my beliefs I will sperg out.
Fucking christ, can these sorts of threads be a bannable offense? You obviously aren't looking for an "unbiased" work.

>> No.14528349

>>14528291
What is your problem you retarded nigger? If I asked recommendations of non-biased books about it this means i dont want biased books on neither side.

>I dont plan reading the books
Projecting your own misery on others.

You make me want to retract what I said about his being dumb

>> No.14528592

>>14527866
>I see commoners repeat what they are badly taught about it being muh Dark Ages,
I only ever see people complaining about some other people who supposedly subscribe to the dark ages meme, never actually seeing the latter.
Also, "commoners"? How far is that broom up your ass?

>>14528197
At least a third of total European population was killed by the plague in the period of 1348-1420.

>> No.14528609

>>14528592
>At least a third of total European population was killed by the plague in the period of 1348-1420.
and how many were killed between 1911-1945?

>> No.14528618

A Confederacy of Dunces

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>>14528609
Are you just pretending to be retarded or what?

>> No.14528642

>>14528621
Am the one who tried to pretend that the Black Death somehow rendered the entire medieval period as a bad time?

>> No.14528643

>>14528621
answer the question

>> No.14528661

>>14528621
Lmao youre pathetic

>> No.14528722

>>14528642
I did not say it was the only factor. It was simply a response to your moronic comment where you suggested that the only thing that people might see as improvement over the middle ages is having digital media.
Besides, you're talking about events from at least 75 years ago. In the meantime we have consistently had fewer and fewer wars in Europe, and due to economic and political factors any such open fighting is less likely to happen than ever before. I'm not saying we're necessarily progressing in every regard, but boiling everything down to gadgets is just retarded.

>>14528642
>>14528643
>>14528661
stop samefagging
also find your own stats for 1911-45

>> No.14528738

>>14528722
>. In the meantime we have consistently had fewer and fewer wars in Europe,
but no less upheaval. Europe is less European now than any other time in history.

>> No.14529291

The Autumn of the Middle Ages - Johan Huizinga

>> No.14529398

>>14527866
You should unironically ask /his/.

>> No.14529403

>>14528592
>At least a third of total European population was killed by the plague in the period of 1348-1420.
Sounds comfy.

>> No.14529420

>>14528291
>that will validate my existing opinions
The dark ages never happened. It's not an opinion. No modern scholar still believes this shit.

>> No.14529583

>>14528642
>Am the one who tried to pretend that the Black Death somehow rendered the entire medieval period as a bad time?

Jesus christ my sides. not sure if genius or retard or both.

>> No.14529627

>>14529583
>not sure if genius or retard or both.
why exactly ?

>> No.14529750

>>14529420
This. Sure, there was disease, famine, and war but that has been the case for all of human history including the modern era. The infant mortality rate was much higher than it is now, but if you were to count all of those planned infant mortalities, the modern mortality rate is much higher. Controlling for war, people generally lived longer during the Middle Ages as well.

>> No.14529948

>>14528738
Europe isn't a single country. Europe was never European. Europe was never anglo, tho

>> No.14530841

>>14529948
>Europe was never European
what was meant by this?

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14531351

>this entire thread

unironically yikes lad. You clearly have a pre-built conclusion you are trying to find stuff to support. I love the middle ages and find them endlessly interesting but I wouldn't really use them as an example of being so much better than today.

The "no dark ages" thing is only about the continuation of knowlege and that the classical authors were not lost to early medieval monks but that doesn't even mean it was a good time to be a monk. There might have been Bede and the Carolingian Renaissance but there was also the Vikings who destroyed every major monastic centre in the British Isles and sold the monks into slavery. The great library/sciptorium at Jarrow that educated Bede and Alcuin was burned to the ground along with all of its books.