/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14509070]

I have ascended

[Anonymous No.14509077]

Its not diverse enough

[Anonymous No.14509079]

yo who's the the last nigger?

[Anonymous No.14509090]

>>14509079
looks like deleuze and foucault fused together

[Anonymous No.14509130]

>>14509090
>>14509079
Ernst Bloch

[Anonymous No.14509148]

Into nonsense

[Anonymous No.14509180]

>>14509148
chad head: "yes"

[Anonymous No.14509483]

>>14509070
>>14509077
Cringe

[Anonymous No.14510041]

>>14509483
Then show us what non-cringe is

[Anonymous No.14510065]

>>14509070
>no peirce

[Anonymous No.14510079]

>>14509070
>A bunch of filthy jews, a couple French pedos, a couple useless A*glos, and Nietzsche
Terrible fucking taste OP

[Anonymous No.14510110]

>>14510041

[Anonymous No.14510144]

>>14510110
dugin is cringe bro

[Anonymous No.14510187]

>>14510144
>dugin is cringe
>says the probable atlanticuck

[Anonymous No.14510223]

>>14509070
Holy based

[Anonymous No.14510278]

>>14510041
Not doing a cringy 3x3.

[Anonymous No.14510282]

>>14510187
he's an anti-white russian imperialist and imperialists are cringe

[Anonymous No.14510292]

>>14509070
>no baudrillard

[Anonymous No.14510295]

>>14510110
Based/10

[Anonymous No.14510302]

>>14510292
antiquated and also too much of a moralist

[Anonymous No.14510307]

>>14510110
Holy...

[Anonymous No.14510356]

Please clap

[Anonymous No.14511047]

Bump

[Anonymous No.14511061]

>>14510356
fucking yikes

[Anonymous No.14511082]

Right here, OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS3JqAU2tQo

[Anonymous No.14511239]

>>14510110
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.14511261]

>>14509070
i think you have managed to plant your feet in postmodern bourgeois capitalism as firmly as possible, infact you might even be descending into its sewers, shantytowns, favelas on a diet of chipotle and xanax

[Anonymous No.14511351]

>"Communism is good on paper but..."

[Anonymous No.14511372]

>>14511261
Brainlet

[Anonymous No.14511377]

>>14511372
hope you like getting fisted in the ass faggot

[Anonymous No.14511399]

>>14511377
Hope you like being a brainlet brainlet

[Anonymous No.14511427]

>>14511399
thinking that an amalgam of materialist hedonists is going to help you 'ascend' is peak brainletism, unironically drown in a hot tub because your dom ignored your safety signal you pathetic faggot

[Anonymous No.14511444]

>>14511427
>materialism bad hack spiritualism good
>>14510110
so this is you?
I can now disregard everything you say and just point and laugh at you.

[Anonymous No.14511454]

>>14511444
>thinking these are the only possible options
lmao stop posting retard

[Anonymous No.14511492]

>>14509070
solid, OP

[Anonymous No.14511493]

>>14509090
More like Foucault and Lacan

[Anonymous No.14511503]

>>14509090
Yo he doesnt know about delfouc

[Anonymous No.14511514]

>>14510110
christ

[Anonymous No.14511647]

>>14509070
Solid

[Anonymous No.14511858]

[Anonymous No.14511978]

>>14511858
Hi please don't put Deleuze-sama next to those hacks kthx.

[Anonymous No.14512451]

>>14510110
Based, but you need heidegger and Schopenhauer as well. Nietzsche still fits into this one more than he does with fucking Marx in OPs

[Anonymous No.14512590]

>>14512451
He doesn't

[Anonymous No.14512592]

>>14512451
Nietzsche fits with Marx

[Anonymous No.14512601]

>>14509070
Makes no sense, some of these people directly contradict one another?
>>14509077
Not bad, it's honest and has a theme.
>>14510110
Bait but also has good correlation.
>>14510356
Very solid taste.
>>14511858
Brassier and Ireland are so far out of place here. The rest are whatever but you seem to be lacking a lot

[Anonymous No.14512616]

>>14512601
Nope it makes perfect sense you are just a brainlet. git good.

[Anonymous No.14512721]

>>14512592
>Nietzsche fits with Marx

Do you get all your Philosophical views from Cuck Philosophys Youtube channel?

[Anonymous No.14512731]

>>14512721
Lol. I actually thought cuck philosophy was a somewhat unbiased and decent youtuber until he said in a video:
>I would argue that only leftists can be Nietzschean

I immediately stopped watching.

[Anonymous No.14512738]

>>14512721
Confirmed for reading neither
Also
>soi wojak poster
I can now disregard everything you say and laugh at your clownish midwittery.

[Anonymous No.14512745]

I have transcended

[Anonymous No.14512748]

>>14512738
>confirmed for reading neither

Lmao, Nietzsche literally equates Socialism to Christian slave morality. I remember a quote in Human, All too Human, Nietzsche compares Socialists to a caged animal, roaring at tasty food that it cant reach outside of the cage.

But thanks for confirming that you let a Youtuber decide all your Philosophical views for you, you are as bad as the Peterson and Sam Harris fanboys

[Anonymous No.14512756]

>>14512731
This is true because all of the right is just indulging in flimsy ideology and silly moralism.

[Anonymous No.14512758]

>>14512738
Have you even read any of Nietzsches views on Socialism?

[Anonymous No.14512759]

>>14512745
yockey is dangerously based. Anymore like him?

[Anonymous No.14512763]

>>14512748
Sure, there is a difference between the socialism he was writing about and the ideology that it indulged in and what Marx was writing about. Come back when you read both unless you want to keep dancing for me you dumb pleb.

[Anonymous No.14512766]

>>14512758
Yes
>>14512763

[Anonymous No.14512772]

>>14512763
heh, keep dancing for me pleb, I can ignore all of Nietzsches criticisms of the idea of Socialism because he wasnt talking specifically about Marxism. Better luck next time

[Anonymous No.14512782]

>>14512772
I'm not ignoring it. Read Marx. Or maybe don't. I live a good life making money shitposting so maybe keep being a pleb.

[Anonymous No.14512784]

>>14512756
Nah, there are some retard right wingers, I can point to a lot of retard lefties too. But personally im a Schopenhauerian "traditionalist".
Im barely even right wing in the economic sense either. I just dont support Post Structuralism faggotry

[Anonymous No.14512787]

>>14512782
Cringe

[Anonymous No.14512792]

>>14512784
What of "post-structuralism" have you read?

[Anonymous No.14512804]

>>14512759
Along what lines are you looking?

[Anonymous No.14512822]

[Anonymous No.14512840]

>>14512804
I’ve read imperium and a bit of Land, from your pic who would you rec?

[Anonymous No.14512854]

>>14512784
Actually it's funny because Marxists adopting Nietzschean Philosophy is actually an example of Post Structuralism, through the interpretation of Nietzscheanism in a way that is completely subjective to Marxists.

Post Structuralism is the final stage of Modernity, by it's nature it's not refutable and will eventually cause the collapse of society.
but that's fine, I've given up on societal Neo Traditionalism anyway. Just gotta ride the Tiger until the end, focus on your individual life and family

[Anonymous No.14512875]

>>14511503
*fouceuze : "fuck-ooze"

[Anonymous No.14512890]

>>14512854
stop spouting shit takes and read a book once in your life.

[Anonymous No.14512958]

>>14512890
Go back to your channel and make another video Cuck.
Postruct fags have the most unbearable elitist attitude. Now I get why Zizek seethes so hard over them

[Anonymous No.14513268]

>>14510295
>>14510307
>>14511239
>>14511514
>>14512451
samefag

[Anonymous No.14513317]

>>14509070
I only need one.

[Anonymous No.14513321]

>>14513268
>b-b-but there c-cant be more than one person who likes Traditionalism
>Y-y-youre j-just using a vpn

[Anonymous No.14513333]

>>14513321
no you aren't using a vpn, you just run around town to samefag

Pic related

[Anonymous No.14513337]

>>14509070
>>14509077


Who are the best FEMALE philosophers?

[Anonymous No.14513350]

>>14513337
No one on /lit/ has read them (including myself) because they aren't at least 100 years old.
Come back in 50 years when some kids that read mid century feminist literature because they found it in an infographic of old books start using forums to discuss literature.

[Anonymous No.14513372]

>>14513333
Guenonposting really makes you guys paranoid huh

[Anonymous No.14513398]

>>14513372
says the virgin who hops between cafes on a daily basis just to shit post as multiple people

[Anonymous No.14513552]

>>14513350
I pray I will be alive to witness Guenonfag's replacement, Dworkininstitutionally-approvedinsult.

[Anonymous No.14513651]

>>14510282
He's not anti white. He explicitly says in the Fourth Political Theory that all empires require a stable ethnic core, while the peripheral minorities can change. For the Russian/Soviet empire this means a white Slavic core ethnicity which must not be replaced or modified. Meanwhile the minority element in the country can change; Tatar, Mongol, Baltic, German etc have come and gone but the core race of the empire must remain. He says that all empire should follow this model of protecting the majority. His only antagonism to whites is in America where you 56%ers are the Great Satan.

[Anonymous No.14513990]

>>14512601
There's no Brassier among it.

[Anonymous No.14514070]

>>14511444
That's not me aspie. Keep trying.

[Anonymous No.14514082]

>>14513337
Simone Weil

[Anonymous No.14514106]

>>14513651
read up on his previous book, his Introduction to Geopolitics, and think about t4pt in that context. He's just using his pseudo-traditionalist schtick to recruit right-wingers abroad to be useful idiots in the service of Russian Imperialism, just like the USSR did it with lefties.

[Anonymous No.14514114]

>>14514106
You make it sound like the USSR & Nazi Germany were bad

[Anonymous No.14514150]

>>14514114
Yes the USSR was fucking bad, just how deep in your throat did you take that Dugin cock, holy shit.
Not sure why you're accusing me of maligning the 3rd Reich when it's Dugin who claims that the 3rd Political Theory was somehow "discredited" by some countries losing an independence war against Judea and her servants.

[Anonymous No.14514206]

>>14514150
Why hate the USSR if you support Nazi Germany? you genuinely have more in common with Tankies than Liberals/democrats. the only thing Stalin did wrong was let his government get overrun by Jews. Hitler made a few fuck ups as well, like killing Strasser and invading the USSR. They really should have been on the same side against the Americans

[Anonymous No.14514273]

>>14514106
I have read up on his earlier geopolitical work. You have to read ItG in light of 4pt though, not the other way around. All the talk about increasing racial tensions in the US is purely because the US is a hegemonic tyrant which needs to be reduced to a regional power at most. One of the strategic means of achieving this is encouraging racial tensions to cause balkanisation and remove America's unipolar grip on the rest of the world. Dugin has no problem with white people, he has two books in English (Ethnosociology and Ethnos and Society) which deal with his very specific and nuanced view of race.

[Anonymous No.14514375]

heh....

[Anonymous No.14514568]

>>14510356
This is good, but I also feel like you are Logo_Daedalus from twitter

[Anonymous No.14514586]

>>14514375
Deleuze is the odd one out

[Anonymous No.14514590]

>>14514586
Deleuze is a crypto neoplatonist who bit too hard into materialism

[Anonymous No.14514595]

>>14514590
He was corrupted by the wicked Nietzsche, corrupter of the youth of Europe

[Anonymous No.14514601]

>>14514590
No he isn't

[Anonymous No.14514636]

>>14514601
>No he isn't
t. hasn't read Deleuze

[Anonymous No.14514663]

>>14514636
Im not him, but im a Neoplatonist who hasn't read Deleuze yet. From what i know, Deleuze would be staunchly opposed to Platonism/Neoplatonism, because he wouldnt believe that there are transcended Archetypes, being a Post-Structuralist and a Nietzschean.

Could you give a brief explanation of how his Philosophy is reconcilable with Neoplatonism? I am generally not that keen on Nietzsche/Deleuze, I prefer Arthur Schopenhauer & Carl Jung

[Anonymous No.14514709]

>>14514590
this guy knows

[Anonymous No.14514714]

>>14514663
Substance Monism and a Hermetic sense of Emanationism that can be reconciled with Plotinus or Damascius. I'm not implying he is a full blown neoplatonist, I like him more for his philosophy of difference than anything else.

[Anonymous No.14514727]

>>14514714
Interesting, ill have to read him. I guess its fine to support some parts of someones philosophy and disagree with other parts of it, thats what im like with Nietzsche

[Anonymous No.14514737]

>>14514586
Odd one out of what? There isnt really a major theme in mine. I have essentialist guys like Ps Denys and Palamas alongside Kierkegaard. I like parts of Deleuze and parts of Anselm and parts of Eriugena and parts of Clement. Doesn't mean I subscribe to the whole philosophy of some one guy.

[Anonymous No.14514771]

>>14514663
>im a Neoplatonist

[Anonymous No.14515105]

>>14512840
de Beer references Yockey and Spengler a view times in this book. It’s a well rounded scientific basis for people inclined to the far right

[Anonymous No.14515145]

>>14514714
>Substance Monism and a Hermetic sense of Emationism
unless you you explain go on about ''hermetic sense of emationism'', this is basically spinozism (which indeed he was heavily influenced)

[Anonymous No.14515170]

>>14509070
>Marx
>Foucault
Pick one bourgeois

[Anonymous No.14515179]

>>14515105
convince me to buy this

[Anonymous No.14515192]

>>14509130
Of three famous Blochs, easily the worst one.

[Anonymous No.14515195]

>>14515170
I pick both retard

[Anonymous No.14515221]

>>14515195
You can’t.

[Anonymous No.14515225]

>>14515221
I just did suck my dick

[Anonymous No.14515311]

>>14515179
A book dedicated to proving the legitimacy of darwinian evolution and a transcendent, intelligible creator through the synthesis of metaphysics provided by Aristotle and various scientific works from the NeoDarwinists.

[Anonymous No.14515394]

>>14515145
Spinozism is heavily influenced by Mainonides who in turn borrows a lot from Avicenna and Farabi (two Islamic Emanationists who are heavily influenced by Plotinus and the Neoplatonists). My point still stands that Deleuze does have a good amount of Neoplatonic tendencies though they are diluted through Islamic and then Spinozist interpretations.

[Anonymous No.14515396]

>>14509070
Why is Spinoza cited as a frequent influence for these guys?

[Anonymous No.14515399]

>>14515394
my friend, pantheistic monism is very different from non-dual panentheism.
spinoza and deleuze did not engage with metaphysics

[Anonymous No.14515406]

>>14515396
because they are all materialists like him

[Anonymous No.14515407]

>>14515399
Didn't say that they were. Deleuze engaged plenty with metaphysics... how do you interpret DnR if not as a metaphysical treatise aiming at grounding his Substance Monism?

[Anonymous No.14515408]

>>14515105
>Wine Aunt the Beer
kek

[Anonymous No.14515409]

>>14515406
Ah okay, thanks. Not familiar with Spinoza at all.

[Anonymous No.14515412]

>>14515394
by the way you are dishonest when saying that Maimonides was ''heavily influenced by plotinus and neoplatonists''. Maimonides was an aristotelian lol

[Anonymous No.14515418]

>>14515406
Spinoza is not a materialist lol. Reread the Ethics.

[Anonymous No.14515427]

>>14515407
you said deleuze was a crypto-neoplatonist, can't you understand how absurd it is?
Spinoza based most of his Ethics on Aristotelianism.

Deleuze didn't engage with metaphysics precisely because substance monism is not metaphysics (this is speculation on Being).

[Anonymous No.14515430]

>>14515418
He is a materialist lol. Rereread Ethics.

[Anonymous No.14515439]

[Anonymous No.14515440]

>>14515412
Learn to read dumbass. Maimonides took heavily from Farabi and avicenna both of whom were criticized by Muslim intellectuals in their day as straying too far into Hellenic philosophy. Please read Farabi, he is deeply Neoplatonic and so is Avicenna to an extent. Farabi is most certainly a neoplatonist and emanationism and had an influence over Maimonides. My point stands that Spinozism is connected to Islamic and Jewish interpretations of Saccas and his Alexandrine School.

[Anonymous No.14515444]

>>14515409
>>14515418
then explain how is God restrained by Necessity (as of Natural Law for example)? This isn't metaphysics.

[Anonymous No.14515453]

>>14515439
Heidegger is the petit-bourgeois of German philosophy, the man who has placed on German philosophy his kitschy nightcaps, that kitschy black night-cap which Heidegger always wore, on all occasions. Heidegger is the carpet-slipper and night-cap philosopher of the Germans, nothing else.

[Anonymous No.14515471]

>>14512822
Patrician taste

[Anonymous No.14515495]

>>14515440
Oh yes I misread, sorry. I would eventually read neoplatonic Islamists.
From what I know, Spinoza was influenced by Maimonides because Maimonides was influenced by Aritotle and Jewish doctrine.
Spinoza has nothing of platonism, his pseudo-metaphysics is restricted to pantheistic World Soul. He does not recognize transcendent hypostasis (much less an apophatic Absolute One).

[Anonymous No.14515502]

>>14515427
Deleuze saw his work as pure metaphysics. His entire scheme is an attempt to construct a new metaphysics for science, grounded in empiricism. I think that if you look deeper into Spinoza and Maimonides you will find a large Neoplatonic strand in their thought right alongside the Aristotelian.

[Anonymous No.14515520]

>>14515495
Farabi, Kindi and Avicenna are all great reads. I reccomend Farabi in particular if you ever want an entrance into Islamic Neoplatonism. I agree with you on Spinoza, but I think he has some np layers within his scheme that's all.

[Anonymous No.14515524]

>>14515502
>Deleuze saw his work as pure metaphysics.
Yes as most continental philosophers didn't understand what real metaphysics is. They even thought a thing as metaphysical materialism was not an oxymoron.

>I think that if you look deeper into Spinoza and Maimonides you will find a large Neoplatonic strand in their thought right alongside the Aristotelian.
Yeah, I mean, Aristotle was influenced by Plato. I think I will indeed, but only insofar as we remember that ALL continental philosophy is grounded on Plato's works.

[Anonymous No.14515541]

>>14515524
Materialism is a metaphysics

[Anonymous No.14515559]

>>14515520
Yes, Farabi is the one on whom I have interest.
Perhaps, Spinoza was possibly precise about one of the hypostases.

[Anonymous No.14515575]

>>14515541
metaphysics comprises all degrees of reality (they are all conditioned by metaphysics); it is absurd to claim that physicalism is metaphysics.

[Anonymous No.14515580]

>>14515541
>>14515575
oh just noticed you said ''a'' metaphysics. lol

[Anonymous No.14515588]

>>14515524
>Yeah, I mean, Aristotle was influenced by Plato. I think I will indeed, but only insofar as we remember that ALL continental philosophy is grounded on Plato's works.
hmm. I think that you misunderstand my meaning. I'm talking about guys like Plotinus and Damascius (who are obviously Platonists) who have synthesized Aristotle, Plato and a lot of other Hellenic thought together with what I suspect is some Egyptian mysteries/philosophy via Ammonius Saccas. Spinoza and Maimonides certainly have a lot less in common with Plato than with Plotinus and the NP.

[Anonymous No.14515639]

>>14515588
Plato and Neoplatonists (who indeed got the best from stoics, aristotelianism) are much more grounded on apophatism and mystical metaphysics than substance metaphysics and speculations on Being ( and yes there is a golden chain of tradition from Egyptian mysteries, pythagorism and orphism until it culminates in Platonic philosophy). What Spinoza has in common with neoplatonists is the aristotelian, stoic part of it.
If they have not much in common with Plato they don't have much in common with Plotinus and NP.

[Anonymous No.14515740]

I have ascended

[Anonymous No.14516232]

>>14515439
>all those heideggers

[Anonymous No.14516255]

>>14510110
whos number 4? guenon, evola, adolf, ??. also is 5 schuon?

[Anonymous No.14516379]

>>14516255
Spengler

[Anonymous No.14516488]

>>14516255
Doesn't matter they are all shit. I made that as a joke.

[Anonymous No.14516640]

>>14509070
>>14510110
>>14510356
>>14511858
>>14512745
>>14512822
>>14514375
>>14515439
>>14515740
Small dicks

[Anonymous No.14516650]

>>14512822
based

[Anonymous No.14516845]

>>14516488
refute schmitt

[Anonymous No.14516982]

>>14516845
I love everyone equally. Schmitt btfo for eternity.

[Anonymous No.14517153]

>>14516640
>Wittgenstein
>Marx
Cringe and first year of college pilled

[Anonymous No.14517193]

>>14512822
Based

[Anonymous No.14517227]

>>14510356
holy shit
are you me?

[Anonymous No.14517559]

>>14516982
>I love everyone equally
>What does "everyone" means?
>What is love?
>How does it relate to known or unknown sets of real discrete individuals?

Empty platitude. There is no such thing that shares correspondence with the word "everyone" that can be equally loved . How could you love an abstraction unequally? Do you even know what love means?

There is a reason why most of the far right and non-marxist far-left loves him.

[Anonymous No.14517658]

>>14516640
cringe

[Anonymous No.14517681]

>>14509070
Haha, I see what you're trying to push. Not subtle. No one believes they are as intelligent as they claim. Sage

[Anonymous No.14517926]

>>14514375
Remove Deleuze and Heidegger and it would be based

[Anonymous No.14518044]

>>14510356
highly based

[Anonymous No.14518051]

>>14509077
Why in that chart the 50% are not women?

[Anonymous No.14519673]

>>14515453
Ok, Friedrich.