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[Anonymous No.14477943]

I need help, only /lit can help me I think, whenever i have a goal or a project I want to work on and I get on the computer I end up researching topics on wikipedia and blogs for hours, this happens almost every time, my min just takes me to wathever curiosity I end up having, yesterday I learned about garlics thyroid protecting properties, coconuts anti-fungal effects, tolstoys thoughts on religion and so on, I don't want this, I want to focus.

Right now I want to be learning web-dev, not here, but I can not control myself, what the fuck do I do, is there any /lit for this?

[Anonymous No.14478027]

>>14477943
Cumbrain

[Anonymous No.14478041]

Try some of these:
https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/03/01/2016-nootropics-survey-results/

[Anonymous No.14478070]

You're an extraverted intuitive trying to be a bugman, its not going to work, you'll kill your soul.

You likely have qualities that aren't rewarded by conventional bug education, such as:

>intersectional thinking (when matured this becomes systems thinking)
>highly abstract associative linking
>openness to experience

This conduces to appreciation of art, emotion, unusual ideas, imagination, curiosity and general info junkie behaviour


Read Narcissus and Goldmund to learn about yourself, and why its the superior faculty.

You're acting with a subconscious higher level strategy in response to 'the whole'

The bugmen will tell you you're unfocussed and shallow as if its a bad thing, and tell you to specialise.

[Anonymous No.14478155]

>>14478070
Op here, this is literally me. How can I survive then, I need a job, I need a career, I'm not sure I can make it as a creative. Yes, it crushes my soul, but what's the alternative, I can't go back to hunter gatherer days, I would make a fine hunter. I considered the military but it pays awfully.

[Anonymous No.14478221]

So fellas, want to talk about the phenomenological base of the world the essences?

[Anonymous No.14478228]

>>14478221
>*or the essences?

[Anonymous No.14478229]

>>14478221
No I want to be able to focus on what I set out to do and stop all the mind chatter and divergent thinking from occurring at all times. Can you help me ENTP

[Anonymous No.14478249]

>>14478229
Make a coffee, go for a walk (coffee still in hand) and listen to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y-xxhBia0s

Get back home, you can focus. That or you're even more energised than before.

Never tried this myself but always figured it would work.

[Anonymous No.14478255]

>>14478229
Whad'ya want to focus on anyway?

You don't have to do anything anon, you do it because you enjoy it.

[Sal West No.14478258]

>>14477943
You have to follow one course until satisfied.
Here's what you need:
Cup of White Tea (learn how to steep it properly, less than 4 minutes in water that is not hotter than 185F.)
Then get to work.
Work on it.
When a distraction comes into your mind.
Stop take a sip of tea. Control your emotional urge to take the distraction detour. Get back to work.
You have to WORK.
Finish your project then reward yourself with the research.

[Anonymous No.14478261]

>>14478258
>You have to follow one course until satisfied.
>Here's what you need:
>Cup of White Tea (learn how to steep it properly, less than 4 minutes in water that is not hotter than 185F.)
>Then get to work.
>Work on it.
>When a distraction comes into your mind.
>Stop take a sip of tea. Control your emotional urge to take the distraction detour. Get back to work.
>You have to WORK.
>Finish your project then reward yourself with the research.

[Anonymous No.14478283]

>>14478155
I'm in a very similar position to you :l

[Anonymous No.14478298]

>>14478249
That was one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard.

[Anonymous No.14478304]

>>14477943
>>14478155
wtf, how am I posting on this Zimbabwean bookbinding forum without recalling, because this is ME
anon you have to tell me if you make it

[Anonymous No.14478326]

>>14478298
I know, that's the genius of Wagner and Liszt together.

Just don't listen to it too much as Ne people like us are used to. Here, have another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdnUHCpomQ

[Anonymous No.14478335]

>all the Ne anons itt
I didn't think there were even this many on this board.

[Anonymous No.14478362]

>>14478326
Pretty good as well.

[Anonymous No.14478411]

>>14477943
Op here, I don't yet know the validity of MB tests but yes this is me but I want to learn how to actually build the things I come up with and I just cant focus, thanks anons for your help ill try them.

[Anonymous No.14478515]

>>14478411
We're famous for being the most creative yet impractical. Putting pento paper is the most difficult.

[Anonymous No.14478523]

>>14478515
So we're Dionysian and must gain the skills of those who are Apollonian?

[Anonymous No.14478524]

>>14478362
A cliche but: https://youtu.be/f7jpSN8BDug?t=1482

[Anonymous No.14478543]

>>14478027
/thread.
>>14478041
taking these while still a cumbrain will only serve to make the cumbrain even more strong

[Anonymous No.14478549]

>>14478524
feel free to keep posting

[Anonymous No.14478558]

>>14478543
anon I know you live in meme reality and not base reality but I don't even watch porn anyways.

[Anonymous No.14478659]

>>14478549
The first movement is quite possibly the greatest piece of music ever written: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHQVtYzjLao

1. Stabat mater dolorósa
juxta Crucem lacrimósa,
dum pendébat Fílius.

At the Cross her station keeping,
stood the mournful Mother weeping,
close to her Son to the last.


It would be in your interest to learn the basics principles of Latin and then compare the many differing translations, some for the feeling and intent of it(as above), others more literal. As you should know, Latin is a highly inflective language. As well as learn the background to the piece, no words can describe its pure bliss other than in the necessity of the image itself, the Crucifixion of which Mary lays her weeping head.

http://www.wcdrutgers.net/Latin.htm

[Anonymous No.14478673]

>>14478659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsCQj0GJ1K8

Not the best composition, but the best for one new to the piece.

[Anonymous No.14478684]

>>14478673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGBXA1tBiLw

[Anonymous No.14478717]

>>14478684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FCJ9FLeReg

Frederick's music was not complex nor revolutionary but you would be deaf to say it does not have an authenticity reflective of his own greatness.

[Anonymous No.14478719]

>>14478558
Why yes, I do live in the memetrix, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.14478725]

>>14478659
I'm a classical dilettante anon, thank you for trying.

Here's one of my favorite compositions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh4UTdyansM

[Anonymous No.14478727]

>>14478155
>hunter gatherer days

That is a context where this kind of attention pays off, reading patterns in the total situation, monitoring multiple aspects of your environment at once, deep intuition.

Unfortunately this is bug world and very few of us 'make it', sometimes you'll become an actor or writer if you're lucky, most likely an isolated yet optimistically suffering slightly bohemian well meaning jack-of-all-trades.

I've tried 100x+ to be what I'm not, to cultivate focus and discipline, it. just. doesn't. stick.

Accept what you are: ahead of your time.
In a holistic society you'd be valued, but in a commercial society, you're an externality.

[Anonymous No.14478770]

>>14478727
>In a holistic society you'd be valued, but in a commercial society, you're an externality.
Ooof, maybe I should try Buddhism to cope?

I understand what you're saying, but I feel like I can still be disciplined and focused, I'm still young, with time I'll naturally become more industrious, almost everyone does, but I have no intentions of becoming disciplined to spend my days in an office pushing code, I want discipline to accomplish things I genuinely want to do and am putting off either due to fear of failure or genuine lack of focus. With age and more education I expect to learn this skills eventually. I'll never be a Jocko Willink, Good. I don't want to be like that, I just want some sense of control. PS: I think pic related is what happens when someone like us (way smarter than me at least) reluctantly joins the system, it's not all so bad.

Thank you for your elucidating thoughts.

[Anonymous No.14478783]

>>14478725
>I'm a classical dilettante anon, thank you for trying.
I was getting the feeling you browsed /mu/, seems I was dead wrong.

I like Rachmaninov, this is great, but I don't really see how some people fawn over him like with Debussy as well.

[Anonymous No.14478794]

>>14478725
very /cosy/ background music here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGs_vGt0MY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z45xGGTo3J0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tKfYwc4zxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__aJL8i1kL4

[Anonymous No.14478822]

>>14478794
ryuichi is comfy

[Anonymous No.14478849]

>>14478822
Though it's a shame he didn't write more, these are the four best as of my own experience.

I anyways got to sleep though anon,
Night.

[Anonymous No.14478854]

>>14478849
Night anon

[Anonymous No.14478862]

>>14478070

Holy based. Are you a psychologist man? If not you should be.

[Anonymous No.14478909]

>>14478249
>>14478298
>>14478326
>>14478362
>>14478524
>>14478659
>>14478673
>>14478684
>>14478717
>>14478725
The Greeks didn't listen to this shit, why should I?

[Anonymous No.14478931]

>>14478909
The greeks didn't eat xenoestrogens either, and yet you do, why should you keep eating them?

[Anonymous No.14478952]

>>14478931
Why do you think I eat xenoestrogens?

[Anonymous No.14478954]

>>14478070
read socionics

[Anonymous No.14478959]

>>14478515
Wrong. IEX/XNFP types are the most impractical. T types usually have better grasp of practicalities.

[Anonymous No.14478978]

>>14478931
Red herring/strawman/black-or-white

[Anonymous No.14479010]

>>14478952
because few people are aware, if you're one of those who is, congrats.

[Anonymous No.14479075]

>>14479010
I am now, thanks

[Anonymous No.14479156]

>>14477943
>>14478070
>>14478155
I am >>14478304

Is that really fucking it then? Just giving up like >>14478727 suggests?
I want to work, I want to have a family, I want to support someone, a community. I can’t just drop off the earth like that.

[Anonymous No.14479206]

>>14478155
I also strongly identify with those qualities. I have strived to build a life that allows me to explore as I want to - any job will do if you get enough time off. I work with IT support.

[Anonymous No.14479386]

>>14479206
Same, I'm working a semi-independent job, I don\t make a lot of money rn, but I set my own schedule, and have independence on my own professional choices, I've worked the typical 9-5 rat racey job before and it left me depressed, I frequently missed work. I fucking hate it man.

[Anonymous No.14480203]

How do I escape?

[Anonymous No.14480391]

>>14477943
>>14478155
>>14478229
>>14478261
>>14478770
(You)

[Anonymous No.14480493]

I have the same problem so I've researched quite a bit into personality staff and this is the best channel that I found so far youtube.com/user/DaveSuperPowers
They have kind of unique personality system that really checks out for me
It seems that you are either an entp or enfp so I would recommend to watch at least these videos and reflect if they apply to you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGYsqjSxPhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zV5ENTQUZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMt7I9PH4s4

[Anonymous No.14480611]

>>14480391
Damn that's me yes

[Anonymous No.14480634]

>>14480493
>personality meme
god I'm so tired of you. Why are you always trying to bring people around you down with yourself?

[Anonymous No.14480690]

>>14480634
Pro-tip how to detect pseudo-science: it tries to sound complicated without being complicated. Despite its attempts to sound complicated it has no threshold of the entrance. Too much super-wide and vague bullshit that with closer look may apply almost to everyone. Voila.

Even being such a meme as real psychology is it still requires you several years of learning just to enter the field. Even all these meme psychologists who take $100 just for a visit who have no clue what they are doing had to read at least Jung and Freud which have enough material to make you busy for a half of the year. All this **TP requires NO learning but instead you read some articles or watch some videos about brand new science, living the illusion that it appeals to you and really does something with your life. Just like horoscopes. Right now you feel great and smart, but then you will realize what it is and the decaying illusion of greatness will bring you down. Don't do it to yourself.

[Anonymous No.14480706]

Ztop the Coom ooh AGH aah

[Anonymous No.14480814]

>>14480690
Vast majority of it is, yeah
That's the only good stuff that I've found and it is not vague at all actually. It clearly divides types with binary questions and cross-checks

But you've already set your mind and will not gather any new info on that matter

[Anonymous No.14480963]

>>14480690
https://youtu.be/2eoN7EqZWW4

watch this video. "pseudoscience" as a label is generally a tool used to discourage critical thought and to limit knowledge in the pursuit of self help.

[Anonymous No.14480964]

>>14478070
>>14478155
>>14478283

>Narcissus
>Goldmund
Anything else I can read or consume to know more about this kind of person?
Anyone know of historical figures or contemporary figures who are similar?

[Anonymous No.14481010]

>>14477943
Try looking up Acceptance and Commitment Therapy/Training. Probably the best method of behavior change to date. Extensively researched and the results are incredible. Originally meant to handle quite difficult behavioral disorders but also found to work exceptionally well for common problems that people have.

A good first book to really sink your teeth into that will give you a good amount of theory (without bogging you down) and exercises to help you follow the process and understand it is: A Liberated Mind: How to Pivot Toward What Matters by Steven C. Hayes.

[Anonymous No.14481180]

>>14481010
I'm >>14480964 , thanks for that recommendation. It feels comfy, even if it is oddly clinical, I guess.

>>14478027
How is OP a cumbrain, retards?

[Anonymous No.14481191]

>>14481180
look at the OP picture

[Anonymous No.14481211]

>>14481180
No problem. I won't say it's "easy", but it's a simple to understand approach. There's a staggering amount of research that has been done on it, and it continues to be researched.

It's a mixture of strategies that stem from mindfulness and acceptance of one's thoughts and feelings. And one great part about it is its utility. You can really use the approach for anything. Habit change, goal-setting, getting out of negative thinking patterns.

[Anonymous No.14481332]

>>14478411
INTJ master race here.