/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.14464402]

JUST GET TO THE FUCKING POINT

[Anonymous No.14464408]

>>14464402
The point is always a letdown because people's ideas are always retarded bullshit. The friends you make along the way however, they accidentally hint at points people are too dumb to systematize that speak directly to the human condition.

btw this is why War and Peace, a meandering hodgepodge of incoherent themes, is infinitely superior to Anna Karenina, a tightly wound artistic product

[Anonymous No.14464409]

>>14464402
>"""point"""

[Anonymous No.14465475]

This is the day you die.

[Anonymous No.14465524]

>>14464408
Disagree, the point exists to provide structure. Like a crystal dropped into a solution that starts a chain reaction of replication. If you want to write about a different point, then finish the first narrative and start a second. If you stuff a bunch of narratives together with conflicting or unrealized points you are only demonstrating a failure in structure.

[Anonymous No.14465538]

>>14464402
No

[Anonymous No.14465566]

“The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant’s existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. The ceaseless activity of their own inherent nature makes these stages moments of an organic unity, where they not merely do not contradict one another, but where one is as necessary as the other; and constitutes thereby the life of the whole.”

[Anonymous No.14465608]

>>14465566
Who says that? It made some things click to me

[Anonymous No.14465676]

>>14464409
>Alfred Pointhead
lol

[Anonymous No.14465678]

>>14465608
Hegel

[Anonymous No.14465681]

>>14464409
>>14465676

[Anonymous No.14465686]

>>14465566
>>14465608
>>14465678
Isn't this literally like the first page of the Phenomenology?

[Anonymous No.14465694]

>>14464402
The not getting to the point may be the very point, Poindexter.

[Anonymous No.14465697]

>>14465475
I wish.

[Anonymous No.14465699]

Reading aint a race fagola

[Anonymous No.14465700]

>>14465699
>Reading aint a race
But my fucking life is.

[Anonymous No.14465707]

>>14465694
SHUT UP YOU PERPENDICULAR MUTT!

[Anonymous No.14465709]

>>14465686
tbf it goes way downhill after there
i just got a giggle out of the idea of the plant retroactively refuting itself

[Anonymous No.14465762]

>>14465524
lmao fucking brainlet

[Anonymous No.14465770]

>>14465709
>tbf it goes way downhill after there
>i just got a giggle out of the idea of the plant retroactively refuting itself
Too complex for you then Schlomo?

[Anonymous No.14465806]

>>14465681
literal bonehead

[Anonymous No.14465809]

>>14465686
Yes

[Anonymous No.14465828]

if i do you wont get it.

[Anonymous No.14465854]

>reading a book
>get bored and read the SparkNotes instead
>still deliver a fascinating and unique analysis of it to my professor, who awards me with a 1st while fellow virgin classmates receive 2:1s despite reading the tome cover-to-cover
Once you’ve read past a certain point, the narratives of fiction and philosophy coalesce and most of an author’s central thrust can be gained from a handful of sentences, or fewer.

>Hegel: dialectics, arboresence
>David Foster Wallace: sincerity
>Marx: Hegel but upside down
>Voltaire: cringe atheism
>Eliot: im sad
>Keats: I’m sad
>Guenon: I’m gay

See, easy.

[Anonymous No.14465864]

>>14465475

[Anonymous No.14465871]

>>14465806
>>14465809
hahaha

[Anonymous No.14465876]

>>14465854
>>Hegel: dialectics, arboresence
>>David Foster Wallace: sincerity
>>Marx: Hegel but upside down
>>Voltaire: cringe atheism
>>Eliot: im sad
>>Keats: I’m sad
>>Guenon: I’m gay

[Anonymous No.14465884]

>>14465876
See, you can do it too.

[Anonymous No.14466017]

>>14465854
This is the correct approach. The more verbosity you wrap your point in, the easier it is to miss the actual point, or get bored before you get to it.

[Anonymous No.14466033]

>>14465884
>>>Marx: Hegel but upside down

[Anonymous No.14466040]

>>14466017
>>14465854
>implying there is only one point

[Anonymous No.14466059]

>>14465854
It's better to read a work yourself than trust someone's summary of it. Sure, a summary will get you through a paper, but it may not get you an understanding of a text. A good example is probably the bible, a lot of people post stupid interpretations by taking the shit some idiot or tyrant says and equating it to the shit god or a prophet says.

[Anonymous No.14466086]

>>14466040
You don't need more than a short sentence per a single point. Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.14466103]

>>14466059
The Bible is unique. For most works you can just read a few summaries and look for a common theme

[Anonymous No.14466771]

>>14465694
fuck pynchon

[Anonymous No.14466784]

>>14466017
you cant just have these amiguous ubrella terms, you have to precisely explain these things, this is a problem, people using words without constantly explaining what the word means to the point where no one knows whats being said. Just clarify, be clear not precise to the point where even dictionary definitions dont suffice.

[Anonymous No.14466826]

>>14466033
Explain how I’m wrong. Marx is just Hegel but materialist.

[Anonymous No.14466909]

>>14464402
fucking this, why do these pathetic retard writers waste our time with 1000s of pages of bullshit which even when its good is hard to justify reading. dont they know some people have jobs

[Anonymous No.14467372]

If you read books/watch films/engage with any art just waiting for the singular "point" you might aswell just read wikipedia synopsis and be done with it you dumb Twitter mental midget.

[Anonymous No.14467639]

>>14465681
hot stuff