Bataille, Deleuze, and hypocrisy

[Anonymous No.14438809]

Bataille
>rejects all conventional morality
>takes pleasure in staring at a picture of a tortuted man on his wall
>literally founds a secret society with rumours of human sacrifice
>his morals cause him to be unwilling to even shake hands with someone who dislikes Judaism

Deleuze
>write a book full of psycho-analytic jargon that glorifies schizophrenia
>lives a totally normal life with a wife and kids

Explain to me why anyone would take these people seriously? Philosophy should be a lived experience. The Greeks saw truth in philosophy not only through formal proofs, but also how it was lived out. How have we fallen so far so as to glorify such delusional, hypocritical, and subversive people?

[Anonymous No.14438823]

Im told he bought products with currency from time to time

[Anonymous No.14438825]

>>14438809
Deleuze never glorified schizophrenia though

[Anonymous No.14438829]

>>14438823
Imagine unironically thinking that is in any way analogous

[Anonymous No.14438830]

>>14438823
Communism isn't anti-currency though.

[Anonymous No.14438833]

>>14438809
>write a book full of psycho-analytic jargon that glorifies schizophrenia
I don't think you're reading him correctly

[Anonymous No.14438845]

>claimed to be a wizard
>gets old and dies

Dont think so.

[Anonymous No.14438856]

>>14438830
Youre right but those products were likely produced via the extraction of surplus value for a profit. I think he even worked for a salary as a journalist too and was exploited himself. Lot of good all that capital mumbo jumbo did!

[Anonymous No.14438869]

>worships death as the ultimate coalescence of words and actions
>kills himself

Nevermind

[Anonymous No.14438873]

>>14438845
>claimed to be a wizard
>possibly one of the most influential people to ever live

[Anonymous No.14438948]

>>14438809
what did you expect from jews?

[Anonymous No.14438972]

Is this mode of thinking where you care about the life of an author a r*ddit thing or just a general pleb thing?

[Anonymous No.14438992]

>>14438972
Cope. Why you would read an author that doesn't even believe in his own writing is beyond me. You are just living an academic masturbatory delusion.

[Anonymous No.14438997]

>>14438992
Because I'm an adult and I can judge ideas on their own merit without looking for a role model? You should go back.

[Anonymous No.14439002]

>>14438809
Philosophy was centered around happiness and life for the first 1500 years. That's why the only good philosophers studied the Greeks.

[Anonymous No.14439007]

>>14438997
Okay, then you should be able to judge easily that someone who doesn't even believe in his own ideas to the highest extent shouldn't be taken seriously. Glad you changed your mind.

[Anonymous No.14439016]

>>14439007
>you should subscribe to a retarded ad hominem way of "thinking"
You might have brain damage.

[Anonymous No.14439037]

>>14439016
That's not the definition of ad hominem sweetie. Bataille's personal life is direct expression of his theories, as are a great number of modern social theorists, and as such, are a perfectly valid object of critique.

[Anonymous No.14439039]

>>14439002
It still is ultimately, the dense incomprehensible (to most) stuff is the extreme result of a platonic dialectical process

[Anonymous No.14439045]

>>14439037
I don't care about their lives. You obviously don't understand what "judge ideas on their own merit" means. Ideas are independent from the authors. Anyway you're obviously brain damaged so I'll stop bullying you, sorry retard.

[Anonymous No.14439081]

>>14439045
>thinks ideas are separate from their authors
> responds with middle school tier insults to try cover his pathetic response
You are a walking contradiction. I can see why you are so angry. I would be too if I had such poor responses.

[Anonymous No.14439101]

>>14439081
Good boy don't let those internet meanies make you feel bad for your special brain

[Anonymous No.14439126]

>>14438809
>Bataille lives out his philosophy
>retard anon calls him a hypocrite

[Anonymous No.14439130]

>>14438809
You shouldn’t get so hung up in Cuck Philosophy dude. If you genuinely care go read a book and stop being such a vacuous attention seeking faggot.

[Anonymous No.14439142]

>>14439101
You are just proving my point more. Bataille would be proud! Keep it up!

[Anonymous No.14439903]

>>14438809
Deleuze did just the opposite of what you said. He critiqued Freud and the system that causes schizophrenia.

[Anonymous No.14439924]

>>14439126
wasnt he and his cult going to perform a human sacrifice but didn't? sounds like he stepped away from the abyss at the last moment.

[Anonymous No.14439938]

What’s going on in this thread? Did the other posters even read the OP? He’s saying that Bataille is a hypocrite because he was acted like he was above morality until he got butthurt by Jew haters.

[Anonymous No.14440159]

>>14439924
everyone volunteered to be the sacrifice and no one wanted to be the one to actually do it

[Anonymous No.14441256]

>>14439126
more like tries to be edgy but get mad at le evil nazis for actually being ubermensch who disregard slave morality

[Anonymous No.14441298]

>>14438809
This has been addressed before: not being an anti-semite, or certainly alienating oneself from all anti-Semites, was a trangressive act in pre-WW2 France. It would've been shocking to shun that many relatively ordinary as well as influental people.

[Anonymous No.14441327]

>>14441298
I should add that shaking hands is second-nature to Frenchies. It would've come up often and, since it's such an ingrained social custom precisely because it is taken for granted, caused a great deal of outrage throughout a given day.

[Anonymous No.14441638]

>muh jews

rent free

[Anonymous No.14441647]

>>14438830
Communism is anti money

[Anonymous No.14441669]

>>14438830
it is, stop reading richard wolff

[Anonymous No.14441783]

>>14438809
You've never read Deleuze

[Anonymous No.14441788]

>>14441647
Then why did Lenin drive this?

[Anonymous No.14441806]

>>14441788
he didnt pay for that

[Anonymous No.14442042]

>>14439045
The other anon is right. You resort to personal insult without addressing his points, therefore your "ideas judged by their own merit" point is immediately invalidated, because you cease judging Anon's idea and stoop to insulting him.
You lose. Good day, sir.

[Anonymous No.14442072]

>>14442042

[Anonymous No.14442190]

>>14442072
What do you even expect to happen? Your childish reactions show that you're in no position to argue normally. Insults and lowest quality 'comebacks' such as Wojaks show that you're trying so hard just to piss someone off so you could feel better about yourself while hiding your insecurities.

[Anonymous No.14442268]

>>14442190
K tard

[Anonymous No.14442287]

>>14438809
Bataille is also a known cuckold. Nowadays he'd probably have bulls breed his wife and raise the children because it's transgressive. Remember, most french theory is just elaborate sissy hypnosis

[Anonymous No.14442811]

>>14442287
He left his wife when she cheated on him.

[Anonymous No.14442925]

>>14441327
I thought kissing was.

[Anonymous No.14442944]

Besides, Bataille wasn't simply a moralist. He recognizes the heterogeneous forces of fascism which can shake up the nihilism of modern democratic societies - yet in a way that ultimately becomes forced and totalitarian. In contrast he was devoted to a sur-fascist, acephalic resacralization of the modern world.

[Anonymous No.14443187]

>>14438809
>rejects all conventional morality
>takes pleasure in staring at a picture of a tortuted man on his wall
>literally founds a secret society with rumours of human sacrifice
>his morals cause him to be unwilling to even shake hands with someone who dislikes Judaism
Gee, I wonder...

[Anonymous No.14443422]

>>14438809
bataille jerked off on his mother's dead corpse and deleuze hated schizophrenics

[Anonymous No.14443427]

>>14438809
also, don't forget beauvoir raped her female students and then passed them off to sartre for sloppy seconds

[Anonymous No.14444089]

>>14438873
That’s not Guénon.

[Anonymous No.14444092]

>>14443427
Based

[Anonymous No.14444097]

>>14443422
Based

[Anonymous No.14444245]

>>14442811
>honey I love transgression and weird sexual practices
>NOOOO HOW CAN SHE CHEAT ON ME HOW COULD SHE DO THIS!
Hypercuckold.

[Anonymous No.14444265]

>>14442287
funny how french theory is sissy hypnosis yet transsexuality is nowhere to be found in france. anglo.

[Anonymous No.14444613]

>>14444245
He cheated on her too. In orgies no less. Laure was his main chick anyway.

[Anonymous No.14445418]

>>14442925
I find shaking hands a more ingrained custom among French men, and among all people in formal settings. Kissing is more fashionable among very close friends and family in informal settings and across sex, I suppose. Nonetheless the French even put a great deal of stock in a verbal greeting--it is necessary to greet shopkeepers when entering their business, for example. Nonetheless, it shows that OP doesn't know anything about French society let alone in the 20s and 30s when not shaking hands with anti-Semites was a shocking gesture on several levels.

[Anonymous No.14446429]

>>14444265
Anglos are the sissies that gobble it up. Foucault is a bigger figure in the USa than france, retard.

[Anonymous No.14446456]

>>14438869
kek, based