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What's the best Koran translation?

>> No.14423809 [DELETED] 

https://www.amazon.com/Quran-English-Translation-Commentary-Arabic/dp/091332101X

>> No.14424115

>>14423778
Depends what you're looking for.
Pickthall if you want something that sounds nice.
Khan is also good.

The Sam Gerrans version is also really interesting, but his methodology and translation is different than anyone else.

>> No.14425159

yusuf ali

>> No.14425204

>>14424115
>Sam Gerrans
Ie, a retard who believes in flat earth, hitting your wife, and translates الْكُفَّارَ with "atheists" in 57:20.
>>14423778
There are currently none. The best is done with your own study.

>> No.14425219

>>14423778
Seyyed Hossein's "The Study Quran" contains the most commentary, but it's also really fucking dense, so I'd recommend starting with one of the other suggestions in this thread.

>> No.14425222

>>14425204
>hitting your wife
Nothing wrong with that though.

>> No.14425225

>>14425222
Have fun never experiencing love, faggot.

>> No.14425230

>>14425225
Silence, woman

>> No.14425237

>>14423778
learn arabic and read it, also when you reach the fighting verses, remember there is a context behind it, dont go around slayin innocent infidels, no virgins for you

>> No.14425241

>>14425225
Muhammad (peace be upon him) hit his beloved Aisha (peace be upon her). Are you suggesting their love was somehow not real?

>> No.14425242

>>14425241
>hit his beloved Aisha
>peace be upon her
nice larp, John.

>> No.14425244

>>14425241
It was one-sided and lustful.

>> No.14425247

>>14425241
Rather suggesting hadiths are not worth anyone's time. As if any actual historical truth could be gleaned from them. Some people are just too naive. And even then, there's another one saying he never hit a woman. That's the fun thing with hadiths, you can always find one to support any position you like.

>> No.14425248

>>14423778
Get one of the ones done by Englishmen in the eighteen hundreds. All the ones done by Muzzies are merely for show for leftist faggots to display on their shelves and all the bits about lying to and murdering people that don’t worship a child rapist are heavily editorialised.

>> No.14425258

>>14425242
Yahya*
>>14425244
Aisha (peace be upon her) was a very pure woman, anon. She was not lustful. That's a Shia disinfo psyop.

>> No.14425262

>>14425258
>peace be upon her, again
you need to get better at larping, John yahya

>> No.14425268

>>14425247
>he never hit a woman
That's a false Hadith. Most Islamic mystics agree (via knowing it by contemplative prayer) on it being fine to hit your wife under certain circumstances and that he did so on numerous occasions.

>> No.14425273

>>14425268
>Most Islamic mystics agree
> contemplative prayer
its gonna be a long night

>> No.14425279

>>14425262
Peace indeed be upon Aisha. I am sorry that you have been psyoped by glow-in-the-dark Shias as to her true importance. Study the mystics and the obscure (to your uneducated mind) Hadith they meditate on.

>> No.14425284

>>14425279
>Study the mystics
>hadith they meditate on
This is getting out of hand

>> No.14425285

>>14425204
>hitting your wife
Based.

>> No.14425286

>>14425279
najdi filth, hell awaits your satanic kind and may god curse aisha (piss be upon her) for eternity

>> No.14425287

>>14425258
Funny joke. If you really didn’t get it – the love was one-sided, only being on the side of the greasy old man. He was lustful, not her.

>> No.14425291

>>14425268
>That's a false Hadith because I disagree with it so I'm going to portray its transmittors as unreliable as much as possible even though I can't possibly know for sure anything about their lives while my opponents will do the exact same thing with the hadiths they don't like
Joke. Not science. Daily reminder that there was no islamic NSA back in the day to record everyone's actions, speeches and thoughts. Bukhari's claim of collecting 600000 hadiths is laughable if you do the math.

>> No.14425293

>>14425291
this, they make it sound like there were cameras on 24/7 recording everything

>> No.14425295

>>14425285
One should consult an Imam or a Prophet before hitting one's wife. That's why it was very common among the Prophet's (peace be upon him) companions, cause they had a Prophet near them. If you have even a slight doubt, refrain from hurting her in a significant way.

>> No.14425298

>mystics
>contemplative prayer
>peace be upon a woman

>> No.14425299

>>14425287
>He was lustful
That is literally blasphemous though. I thought you weren't so unhinged, but I guess all Aisha (peace be upon her) haters are, hating such a pure being requires quite a demented outlook on the world. May Allah (swt) grant you guidance.

>> No.14425307

>>14425298
Do you just hate women? Seems like a Judaeo-Shia joint psyop to make you gay. Hagar (peace be upon her) (literally a Prophet by the way) would surely not approve.

>> No.14425313

>>14425307
>Hagar was a prophet
sounds like you're the Judeo-sufist

>> No.14425319

>>14425291
One can still access the authentic Hadith by praying over already authentically known words of the Prophet (peace be upon him). The mystics have been doing that for literally centuries.

>> No.14425320

>>14425299
>such a pure being
im literally rofling, after all she's done to the prophet's (saw) heirs, betraying the ahlul beyt after his death, it should be obligatory to curse her name and the name of her um*yya pimps (piss be upon them and their descendants) every day

>> No.14425321

>>14425291
For example, if each one took one hour to collect, write, read and judge, then it would take more than 68 waking years. And they claim he lived for 60 years. The guy NEVER, ever slept, or ate, or drank or anything that wasn't hadith collecting. They'll claim it's a miracle then. And even after he died his corpse woke up to collect some more.

>> No.14425325

>>14425291
>science
retroactively refuted.
>>14425321
found the brainlet materialist.

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>>14425320

>> No.14425334
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14425334

>>14425320

>> No.14425336

>>14425320
sure breh. the prophet (pbuh) was so stupid that he somehow fell in love with and deeply cherished a woman who would be deserving of the treatment you're giving her. please practice contemplative prayer and don't be fooled by nonsense.

>> No.14425356

>>14425334
>>14425326
>>14425336
i see najdi filth crawled out of their shitholes,

hypocrites worship aisha from their falsified hadis yet spit on the prophet's (saw) cherished khadeejah (saa) and fatima (saa) by supporting the satanic traitors of the prophet's (saw) and her's descendants, a shameful act which aisha herself supported (may allah (swt) curse her forever for this betrayal)

>> No.14425366

>>14425356
I don't spit on any of the wives though, kiddo. what a painful existence must you lead...

>> No.14425372

>>14425366
filth, you spit on all the other wives (pbut) by calling aisha a pure being, i generally refrain from cursing anyone, but calling her pure shows the hypocrisy of your kind

>> No.14425403

Every conversation about the Quran that doesn't happen between quranists devolves into a conversation about hadiths.

>> No.14425604
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14425604

What was his opinion on Aisha (peace be upon her)?

>> No.14426561

>>14425356
>>14425320
based and shia pilled

>> No.14426583

>>14425604
he didn't comment on her according to the archive at index-rene-guenon dot org

>> No.14426589

>>14425291
Shia do hadith better than Sunnis. Still kind of iffy though

>> No.14426610

>>14425336
>Muhammad PBUH is monigamous with Khadijah
>Aisha is merely one among his harem
>Sunnis still claim she was his favorite
>To make it worse Muhammad only ever had children with Khadijah and a Christian slave woman so he obviously wasn't fucking his other wives all that much
Cope more Nasibi

>> No.14426969

what's their douay-rheims equivalent translation?
what about their orthodox equivalent translation?